webfact Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Thaksin Suggests Bartering Farm Produce for Water Management Expertise Former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra has given an interview in Dubai, admitting that the Phue Thai-led government has been suffering from a decline in its popularity due to the current flood situation. During a recent interview in Dubai, former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra claimed that the current flood situation in Thailand is the worst disaster of its kind ever. Thaksin also said he has advised the government to invest in an integrated water management system in order to bring a permanent solution to the flood and drought problems. The former premier added that he has not been discussing politics with his sister, current Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, as she is occupied with the flood relief effort. Again, Thaksin urged the government to expedite a project, which could store water during the rainy season and release the water for irrigation in times of drought. In any case, he pledged that he will take this up with Yingluck. Thaksin also said the government may not have to spend cash on such project, but instead could barter Thai agricultural products with countries that have expertise in water management, particularly China and some countries in the Middle East. Moreover, Thaksin offered praise for the Democrat Party for helping the government to carry out the flood relief effort. He said this is a significant and positive sign for the country, which has been going through extreme political division. The former prime minister believes that despite ideological differences, all the people can work together for the country. Thaksin asserted that the current government is supported by all related state and private agencies, especially the armed forces. He relented that due to the current devastating flood, the government will have to work hard to regain its popularity by initiating a speedy reconstruction after the disaster has passed. In any case, Thaksin expressed confidence that Yingluck will be able steer the country through this time of crisis. -- Tan Network 2011-10-13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Ask the Kachin region Burmese what they think of Chinese Water Management expertise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serenitynow Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 It's deja vu all over again: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/17362-swedish-pm-rejects-jets-for-chicken-trade/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpio2369 Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Doesn't he have some ungodly amount money? Why don't he pony it up for better developing the system, that he DIDN'T develop when he had a chance to. Put your money where your mouth is Thaksin. (How about a LARGE donation for the efforts of flooding) If you can't then stay out of the countries business!!! Your an ass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveromagnino Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) How nice that he will advise the PM on all of this.....how nice that he can commend the Democrats on helping to 'soap the country ploblem' What a pity the advice is entirely insincere, completely self serving and of no actual use to anyone, since it is really really stupid. About as dumb as the idea of giving CP chickens for fighter jets proposed when TRT had run the country out of cash back in 2004; around the time that TRT were caught lying about the chicken flu crisis that they attempting to cover up to the EU. If only we had Jakapop Penkair acting as his spokesman, it would be like old times, with nonsensical advice reported as news, and very real problems completely denied as a media conspiracy. Oh, the good old years, when all NGOs were evil, media were lapdogs, democracy was not a goal, and there was a hub for everything. Edited October 13, 2011 by steveromagnino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro01 Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 odd - so the farmers will give free rice in this barter project? Surely even if the govt does barter, they still have to pay $$$ for the rice etc. What's the point again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaidam Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I totally understand Thaksin's frustration. The pain of being tempoarily out of the limelight must be unbearable. How irritating that the focus is on the floods, and the irrelevant displaced peasants. I wish the country could focus on the real struggle. By that I mean returning the rest of the good Dr's cash, overturning those pesky court cases against him, and making him a heavy-metal hat and gaudy chair. Every day I live without Thaksin's great leadership is just a wasted day. Come back, oh saviour of democracy and freedom. Like the other poster said. Its the democrats fault for calling an election when it was obvious to everyone that just 3 months down the line Thailand would be flooded. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakk9 Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Chinese water management is very simple: Build a huge dam. In this case, that would imply building several huge dams, drowning whatever was there before, just like flooding, only permanent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serenitynow Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 odd - so the farmers will give free rice in this barter project? Surely even if the govt does barter, they still have to pay $$$ for the rice etc. What's the point again? Oh, the point is that the nation's severe flooding crisis knocked him off the frontpage for a couple of days. Can't have that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaanAussie Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 The good old days when there was a hub for everything... How very well put! Of course we can remember that every hub has a focal point, and with a common spindle, they all spin in unison, so simple, so well balanced, perfection. Such a pity that the common centre in those days was exactly what they asked for and they all got shafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Given that Thailand is so flat, I was wondering which provinces Thaksin proposes to flood for is dam plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) How nice that he will advise the PM on all of this.....how nice that he can commend the Democrats on helping to 'soap the country ploblem' What a pity the advice is entirely insincere, completely self serving and of no actual use to anyone, since it is really really stupid. About as dumb as the idea of giving CP chickens for fighter jets proposed when TRT had run the country out of cash back in 2004; around the time that TRT were caught lying about the chicken flu crisis that they attempting to cover up to the EU. If only we had Jakapop Penkair acting as his spokesman, it would be like old times, with nonsensical advice reported as news, and very real problems completely denied as a media conspiracy. Oh, the good old years, when all NGOs were evil, media were lapdogs, democracy was not a goal, and there was a hub for everything. Should work as well as the offer of Jets For Chickens with Sweden... http://www.thaivisa....-chicken-trade/ Dams for Chickens (dams for chickenfeed) How much over-priced pledge rice does it take to buy a Chinese dam? Connect the dots and what do you get? Jakrapop and Noppadom doing tag-team announcements = Nauseous. Jack Rabbit Bop and Nope I'm Dumb; cain't git bitter din dis. Edited October 13, 2011 by animatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiebebe Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I'm just curious and I'll freely admit I know very little, but will these dams being built by the Chinese reduce flooding in Thailand or have no effect? I'm startled by the news about Bangkok being saved, I read somewhere that it accounts for 75% or thereabouts of Thailand's economy. Is this really true? All other 75 provinces combined produce a quarter of Thailand's GDP? surely not. If so, why not sacrifice one low-lying province, relocate everyone (if possible) and make a dam? I suppose the whole country is low-lying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AleG Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Seems like a plan to get rid of all the rice the government is going to buy at waaay above market price on the Pledge Scam... err.. Scheme, sorry. Nobody will want to buy the rice at the price the government tax payer is going to be paying so they need to find a way of getting rid of the mountain of grain they'll end up stockpiling somewhere, somehow. Of course there will be a huge financial loss for the state over the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Fact is that 2 weeks ago already over 200 people died of flooding and Yingluck thought is was more important to go on a PR trip through Asia. When large parts of Thailand were screaming for help, the governemnt was not doing anything! PM, to little too late!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
givenall Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Ask the Kachin region Burmese what they think of Chinese Water Management expertise. He should admit that during his years of ruling the peopleworked for him either wasted or stool money instead of improving the water waysinfrastructure. It is too late now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Again, Thaksin urged the government to expedite a project, which could store water during the rainy season and release the water for irrigation in times of drought. \It's called a dam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insight Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Again, Thaksin urged the government to expedite a project, which could store water during the rainy season and release the water for irrigation in times of drought. \It's called a dam. And he's not the first Thai person to think of this idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Again, Thaksin urged the government to expedite a project, which could store water during the rainy season and release the water for irrigation in times of drought. \It's called a dam. And they usually don't give one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaipod Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Bartering has been done before , chickens for fire trucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkjames Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Bartering has been done before , chickens for fire trucks I thought it was Jet Fighters from Sweden. The Fire Trucks were just some other thing still in the courts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 A large part of the blame can, I think, be placed at the feet of the authorities EGAT?) in charge of releasing water from the storage dams in the northern areas notably Bhumphol & Sirikit plus Pasak dam. Not doing sufficient advance planning? The severe monsoon pattern plus La Nina have exascerbated the problem. However accepting responsibility is difficult in Teflon Thailand where nothing sticks if you are in authority. Plus The Lost Face department is now closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Lets face facts, with idiots (read clones / yes men - women and puppets) running the country you end up with idiotic ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) The Chinese which have serious floods every year they can't properly manage? Those Chinese?? and the middle east that's all desert and hardly gets any rain to speak of? That middle east? Yah those are first rate sources to get advice from .. Edited October 13, 2011 by WarpSpeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 The Chinese which have serious floods every year they can't properly manage? Those Chinese?? and the middle east that's all desert and hardly gets any rain to speak of? That middle east? Yah those are first rate sources to get advice from .. Why not indeed, if you ask for advise from people who know / understand you will probably get advice that doesn't fit in with your own thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 The Chinese which have serious floods every year they can't properly manage? Those Chinese?? and the middle east that's all desert and hardly gets any rain to speak of? That middle east? Yah those are first rate sources to get advice from .. Why not indeed, if you ask for advise from people who know / understand you will probably get advice that doesn't fit in with your own thinking. Oooopps! True, my mistake.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gl555 Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Would the few hundred million in taxes you and your criminal family refused to pay be enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrfeild Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 "Thaksin expressed confidence that Yingluck will be able steer the country through this time of crisis" I very much doubt that. If you saw yesterdays Bangkok Post, there was a Photo of her with Abisit and advisers. It's obvious that she has absolutely no Idea. All she can do is listen and hope her advisers get it right. Not much chance of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I guess this whole plan hinges on whether a government or private company actually wants rice / mangoes or shrimp instead of money. I know what I'd prefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payboy Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Does buffalo manure count as farm produce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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