Thaksin To Definitely Return In December: Kwanchai

[Siam Simon]

And that's the very scary part. I believe the red villages (and jatuporn hasn't been seen for weeks and the speculation is that he's stirring up the red villages) would still believe all of the above and would probably believe the story that the floods are all deliberate work / results of either the army or abhisit or both.

What a load of unsubstantiated old cockwash.

You haven't got a clue what Jatuporn is doing have you? You must miss him and be gutted that you've not got any Nation articles about him to rip into. Oh well, let's fall back on a bit of unbridled speculation in the meantime just to keep ourselves occupied then, shall we?

'Stirring up the red villages'....oooohhhhh! sounds sinister - a promise of red violence at some point to really rip into. Yum Yum! I'm sorry you are scared (or want others to be), but if you're just going to make things up, why not make up things which won't scare yourself or others?

And if you're not making things up, let's hear more about this 'speculation', doubtless based on someone seeing him in a red shirt village at some point in the past. Ergo, he's planning violent insurrection nationwide.

Honestly, you and your hysterical red/Thaksin/PTP bashing colleagues (who give a bad name to the more balanced anti-gov/PTP/Thaksin posters) have the same shrill, belligerent, paranoid, divisive tone as someone else we all know. Been taking lessons from Jatuporn?

'There's gonna be a coup!', says Jatuporn. 'There's gonna be red violence!', says you.

With the flood emergency, the prioritisation of Thaksin's return looks more and more ridiculous. This upsets the forum red apologists who have big trouble reconciling their dreams of Thaksin coming back while at the same time having to continue proclaiming that 'its not about Thaksin'. The upset always pops up with the phrase 'Thaksin haters' or variation thereof (eg 'Thaksin bashers'). As for Jatuporn its not rocket science working out what he is up to. Plenty of form there. Or maybe he's found religion. Never mind, there is always the chance that this leader of Thaksin's thug tendency has taken a day off. Oh yes.

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[anon7867763]

maybe 25th December

The second coming !

[yoshiwara]

And that's the very scary part. I believe the red villages (and jatuporn hasn't been seen for weeks and the speculation is that he's stirring up the red villages) would still believe all of the above and would probably believe the story that the floods are all deliberate work / results of either the army or abhisit or both.

What a load of unsubstantiated old cockwash.

You haven't got a clue what Jatuporn is doing have you? You must miss him and be gutted that you've not got any Nation articles about him to rip into. Oh well, let's fall back on a bit of unbridled speculation in the meantime just to keep ourselves occupied then, shall we?

'Stirring up the red villages'....oooohhhhh! sounds sinister - a promise of red violence at some point to really rip into. Yum Yum! I'm sorry you are scared (or want others to be), but if you're just going to make things up, why not make up things which won't scare yourself or others?

And if you're not making things up, let's hear more about this 'speculation', doubtless based on someone seeing him in a red shirt village at some point in the past. Ergo, he's planning violent insurrection nationwide.

Honestly, you and your hysterical red/Thaksin/PTP bashing colleagues (who give a bad name to the more balanced anti-gov/PTP/Thaksin posters) have the same shrill, belligerent, paranoid, divisive tone as someone else we all know. Been taking lessons from Jatuporn?

'There's gonna be a coup!', says Jatuporn. 'There's gonna be red violence!', says you.

With the flood emergency, the prioritisation of Thaksin's return looks more and more ridiculous. This upsets the forum red apologists who have big trouble reconciling their dreams of Thaksin coming back while at the same time having to continue proclaiming that 'its not about Thaksin'. The upset always pops up with the phrase 'Thaksin haters' or variation thereof (eg 'Thaksin bashers'). As for Jatuporn its not rocket science working out what he is up to. Plenty of form there. Or maybe he's found religion. Never mind, there is always the chance that this leader of Thaksin's thug tendency has taken a day off. Oh yes.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spartist

As you happen to mention sparts, how is red cheerleader Giles these days? Maybe he's hoping to hitch a lift with Thaksin next month?

Edited November 6, 2011 by yoshiwara

[joe beets]

Quote concerning Jatuporn was removed as quote limit had been exceeded.

With the flood emergency, the prioritisation of Thaksin's return looks more and more ridiculous. This upsets the forum red apologists who have big trouble reconciling their dreams of Thaksin coming back while at the same time having to continue proclaiming that 'its not about Thaksin'. The upset always pops up with the phrase 'Thaksin haters' or variation thereof (eg 'Thaksin bashers'). As for Jatuporn its not rocket science working out what he is up to. Plenty of form there. Or maybe he's found religion. Never mind, there is always the chance that this leader of Thaksin's thug tendency has taken a day off. Oh yes.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spartist

As you happen to mention sparts, how is red cheerleader Giles these days? Maybe he's hoping to hitch a lift with Thaksin next month?

Touché.

[Buchholz]

maybe 25th December

The second coming !

Too late. The billionairess daughter of the trillionaire gets hitched on the 11th.

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[Roadman]

The 5th of December is amnesty day. He flys in that morning, has a drink in the company of the BiB to pass for his "in custody of the state" bit and Yingluck gives him his pardon. Failing that he waits another year to the day.

[Payboy]

The 5th of December is amnesty day. He flys in that morning, has a drink in the company of the BiB to pass for his "in custody of the state" bit and Yingluck gives him his pardon. Failing that he waits another year to the day.

You missed the bit about kissing the ground.

[jayboy]

As you happen to mention sparts, how is red cheerleader Giles these days? Maybe he's hoping to hitch a lift with Thaksin next month?

Afficionados of Private Eye over the years will recognise Khun Giles as a typical Dave Spart.He even speaks with that annoying whining lower middle class accent typical of the type (though his origins are of course quite privileged)."Red cheer leader" is probably in the circumstances an appropriate label.But where Yoshiwara goes wrong (what's the right wing equivalent of a Dave Spart by the way? Tufton Bufton?) is to suggest Giles had any time for Thaksin.Look at his writings where censorship permits.He is in fact one of the most effective critics of Thaksin, an awkward truth that doesn't quite chime in with the narrative.

[ratcatcher]

The 5th of December is amnesty day. He flys in that morning, has a drink in the company of the BiB to pass for his "in custody of the state" bit and Yingluck gives him his pardon. Failing that he waits another year to the day.

Surely December 5th would be a rather inappropriate day for Mr Thaksin to appear, seeing as the nation is in the mood for His Majesty's

84th birthday celebrations, although, as H.M. has suggested, it may be more low key due to the flooding .,

[GazR]

As you happen to mention sparts, how is red cheerleader Giles these days? Maybe he's hoping to hitch a lift with Thaksin next month?

Afficionados of Private Eye over the years will recognise Khun Giles as a typical Dave Spart.He even speaks with that annoying whining lower middle class accent typical of the type (though his origins are of course quite privileged)."Red cheer leader" is probably in the circumstances an appropriate label.But where Yoshiwara goes wrong (what's the right wing equivalent of a Dave Spart by the way? Tufton Bufton?) is to suggest Giles had any time for Thaksin.Look at his writings where censorship permits.He is in fact one of the most effective critics of Thaksin, an awkward truth that doesn't quite chime in with the narrative.

Let's see whether Takky and Guile's apparently symbiotic relationship passes the litmus test of the new censorship law that Big Brother (via Little Sister) pushed through parliament last week which gives another of Takky's putative family members the power to shut down media outlets - or is it just the print media to start with?

Edited November 6, 2011 by GazR

[yoshiwara]

As you happen to mention sparts, how is red cheerleader Giles these days? Maybe he's hoping to hitch a lift with Thaksin next month?

Afficionados of Private Eye over the years will recognise Khun Giles as a typical Dave Spart.He even speaks with that annoying whining lower middle class accent typical of the type (though his origins are of course quite privileged)."Red cheer leader" is probably in the circumstances an appropriate label.But where Yoshiwara goes wrong (what's the right wing equivalent of a Dave Spart by the way? Tufton Bufton?) is to suggest Giles had any time for Thaksin.Look at his writings where censorship permits.He is in fact one of the most effective critics of Thaksin, an awkward truth that doesn't quite chime in with the narrative.

Let's see whether Takky and Guile's apparently symbiotic relationship passes the litmus test of the new censorship law that Big Brother (via Little Sister) pushed through parliament last week which gives another of Takky's putative family members the power to shut down media outlets - or is it just the print media to start with?

Giles is associated with an organisation which subscribes to an orthodox Trotskyist position of 'critical but unconditional support for _____________ (fill in the campaign)'. This is differentiated from the CP position (Stalinist tradition) of popular frontism which subordinates the organisation (tail-ends) to whoever they are allied with. When it comes to Thaksin, many of the forum red cheerleaders (who have little or no understanding of socialist politics, though like to consider themselves 'of the left') flutter around the two positions. Unfortunately the Trotskyist position has largely been corrupted into an emphasis on the unconditional support for the Thaksin agenda with the critical element used as a cover thereof. Giles and others are a part of that cover and you will be hard pressed to discover any independent programme of demands from this crew. What stands out is their craven support for Thaksin in practice. In this regard at least the forum red apologists do not disappoint. Hitching a ride on Thaksin's return is more than a joke. It is an aspiration.

[jayboy]

Unfortunately the Trotskyist position has largely been corrupted into an emphasis on the unconditional support for the Thaksin agenda with the critical element used as a cover thereof. Giles and others are a part of that cover and you will be hard pressed to discover any independent programme of demands from this crew. What stands out is their craven support for Thaksin in practice. In this regard at least the forum red apologists do not disappoint.

It is always fun when stereotypes live up to expectations, in this instance as a bonus using the "red apologist" sobriquet yet again.

You may have a a nodding understanding of Marxist politics (so does every sociologist student at third rate universities) but you simply in your response restate in the oddly fractured language favoured by Marxists (why are using it by the way?) the contradiction in your original post, namely that the Trot Giles is riding on Thaksin's coattails, and his criticisms are essentially just "cover".I think you are possibly beyond help (and I mean that caringly) but for other have a look at what Giles writes about Thaksin (ignore the silly agitprop stuff) and make up your own minds whether he is just providing "cover".

[yoshiwara]

Unfortunately the Trotskyist position has largely been corrupted into an emphasis on the unconditional support for the Thaksin agenda with the critical element used as a cover thereof. Giles and others are a part of that cover and you will be hard pressed to discover any independent programme of demands from this crew. What stands out is their craven support for Thaksin in practice. In this regard at least the forum red apologists do not disappoint.

It is always fun when stereotypes live up to expectations, in this instance as a bonus using the "red apologist" sobriquet yet again.

You may have a a nodding understanding of Marxist politics (so does every sociologist student at third rate universities) but you simply in your response restate in the oddly fractured language favoured by Marxists (why are using it by the way?) the contradiction in your original post, namely that the Trot Giles is riding on Thaksin's coattails, and his criticisms are essentially just "cover".I think you are possibly beyond help (and I mean that caringly) but for other have a look at what Giles writes about Thaksin (ignore the silly agitprop stuff) and make up your own minds whether he is just providing "cover".

He provides cover in the same way that the forum reds provide cover for the Jatuporns and Arismans of this world. When push comes to shove they line up beside them.

Putting lipstick on the pig. Lots of fun in that.

(PS odd how a supporter of reds who rail against the 'elites' wants to take a sideswipe against so-called 'third rate universities'. Radicalism of the thin skin variety.)

Edited November 7, 2011 by yoshiwara

[jayboy]

He provides cover in the same way that the forum reds provide cover for the Jatuporns and Arismans of this world. When push comes to shove they line up beside them.

Putting lipstick on the pig. Lots of fun in that.

(PS odd how a supporter of reds who rail against the 'elites' wants to take a sideswipe against so-called 'third rate universities'. Radicalism of the thin skin variety.)

Doesn't make any more sense now than he did before.Forum members providing "cover" now!!

A third rate university is just that, namely one where soft option subjects like sociology are common, students and lecturers are not perhaps the brightest and where many are able to agitate in half understood Marxist rhetoric.

[yoshiwara]

He provides cover in the same way that the forum reds provide cover for the Jatuporns and Arismans of this world. When push comes to shove they line up beside them.

Putting lipstick on the pig. Lots of fun in that.

(PS odd how a supporter of reds who rail against the 'elites' wants to take a sideswipe against so-called 'third rate universities'. Radicalism of the thin skin variety.)

Doesn't make any more sense now than he did before.Forum members providing "cover" now!!

A third rate university is just that, namely one where soft option subjects like sociology are common, students and lecturers are not perhaps the brightest and where many are able to agitate in half understood Marxist rhetoric.

One of my pet theories is that forum petty-bourgeois red cheerleaders while treating Thailand as a safe political playground for their proud T-shirt wearing antics are as elitist as they come when it comes to protecting their own backyard. Those who sneer at the labelled 'third-rate' universities forget that it is these institutions which provide the opportunity for working class and students from poorer backgrounds to progress to higher education. Now the pet goes yap yap yap. Such are the welcoming party for Thaksin's vaunted return.

Edited November 7, 2011 by yoshiwara

[jayboy]

One of my pet theories is that forum petty-bourgeois red cheerleaders while treating Thailand as a safe political playground for their proud T-shirt wearing antics are as elitist as they come when it comes to protecting their own backyard. Those who sneer at the labelled 'third-rate' universities forget that it is these institutions which provide the opportunity for working class and students from poorer backgrounds to progress to higher education. Now the pet goes yap yap yap. Such are the welcoming party for Thaksin's vaunted return.

What's with this "petty-bourgeois" stuff ? Leave that sort of jargon to Acharn Giles and his kind.

On third rate universities I probably should defer to your better acquaintance (I'm a Cambridge man myself).I do know however that elite universities, contrary to the received wisdom, move heaven and earth to encourage bright working class candidates to apply.The American elite universities with their vast endowments have a much better record with every opportunity for bright applicants from deprived backgrounds to succeed.I think your concept of a third rate university as a stepping stone is rather old fashioned.I don't have the intention of sneering at anyone incidentally

I have no idea what your "yap yap yap" comment means (something to do with Thaksin I suppose)

[yoshiwara]

One of my pet theories is that forum petty-bourgeois red cheerleaders while treating Thailand as a safe political playground for their proud T-shirt wearing antics are as elitist as they come when it comes to protecting their own backyard. Those who sneer at the labelled 'third-rate' universities forget that it is these institutions which provide the opportunity for working class and students from poorer backgrounds to progress to higher education. Now the pet goes yap yap yap. Such are the welcoming party for Thaksin's vaunted return.

What's with this "petty-bourgeois" stuff ? Leave that sort of jargon to Acharn Giles and his kind.

On third rate universities I probably should defer to your better acquaintance (I'm a Cambridge man myself).I do know however that elite universities, contrary to the received wisdom, move heaven and earth to encourage bright working class candidates to apply.The American elite universities with their vast endowments have a much better record with every opportunity for bright applicants from deprived backgrounds to succeed.I think your concept of a third rate university as a stepping stone is rather old fashioned.I don't have the intention of sneering at anyone incidentally

I have no idea what your "yap yap yap" comment means (something to do with Thaksin I suppose)

Waving the flag of being a Cambridge Man (dying to get that out weren't you, but so vulgar), no guarantee of class position or having an analysis of Thai politics, so what was the point apart from trying to claim status based on where you did your degree? Last refuge of a scoundrel. Which brings us full circle to the return of Thaksin. Now there's a scoundrel. Maybe that's the attraction.

Edited November 7, 2011 by yoshiwara

[Siam Simon]

He provides cover in the same way that the forum reds provide cover for the Jatuporns and Arismans of this world. When push comes to shove they line up beside them.

Putting lipstick on the pig. Lots of fun in that.

(PS odd how a supporter of reds who rail against the 'elites' wants to take a sideswipe against so-called 'third rate universities'. Radicalism of the thin skin variety.)

Doesn't make any more sense now than he did before.Forum members providing "cover" now!!

A third rate university is just that, namely one where soft option subjects like sociology are common, students and lecturers are not perhaps the brightest and where many are able to agitate in half understood Marxist rhetoric.

One of my pet theories is that forum petty-bourgeois red cheerleaders while treating Thailand as a safe political playground for their proud T-shirt wearing antics are as elitist as they come when it comes to protecting their own backyard. Those who sneer at the labelled 'third-rate' universities forget that it is these institutions which provide the opportunity for working class and students from poorer backgrounds to progress to higher education. Now the pet goes yap yap yap. Such are the welcoming party for Thaksin's vaunted return.

D'you talk like that in real life?

[yoshiwara]

He provides cover in the same way that the forum reds provide cover for the Jatuporns and Arismans of this world. When push comes to shove they line up beside them.

Putting lipstick on the pig. Lots of fun in that.

(PS odd how a supporter of reds who rail against the 'elites' wants to take a sideswipe against so-called 'third rate universities'. Radicalism of the thin skin variety.)

Doesn't make any more sense now than he did before.Forum members providing "cover" now!!

A third rate university is just that, namely one where soft option subjects like sociology are common, students and lecturers are not perhaps the brightest and where many are able to agitate in half understood Marxist rhetoric.

One of my pet theories is that forum petty-bourgeois red cheerleaders while treating Thailand as a safe political playground for their proud T-shirt wearing antics are as elitist as they come when it comes to protecting their own backyard. Those who sneer at the labelled 'third-rate' universities forget that it is these institutions which provide the opportunity for working class and students from poorer backgrounds to progress to higher education. Now the pet goes yap yap yap. Such are the welcoming party for Thaksin's vaunted return.

D'you talk like that in real life?

Only for you darling.

[jayboy]

Waving the flag of being a Cambridge Man (dying to get that out weren't you, but so vulgar), no guarantee of class position or having an analysis of Thai politics, so what was the point apart from trying to claim status based on where you did your degree? Last refuge of a scoundrel. Which brings us full circle to the return of Thaksin. Now there's a scoundrel. Maybe that's the attraction.

Perhaps I need to point out that on an anonymous forum like this, with a few brave exceptions like Nick Nostitz, anyone can pretend to be anything they want.Therefore whatever claims are made about status gain no credit at all whether those claims are true or not.The real test is the intelligence, relevance and panache of members postings.Cognoscenti would have immediately known the "I'm a Cambridge man myself" phrase is straight out of the Monty Python stable with its ludicrous pomposity.I only mentioned it because of your misconception that bright students from a deprived background can't get into decent universities.Clearly I have hit a nerve of some sort, so apologies for that.

I won't comment on the rather forced linkage that you connect up my little conceit and the return of Thaksin.

[maidu]

Nothing would surprise me about the Thai psyche. A significant proportion of Thais saw the Reds as heroes - when they rioted in Bkk in 2009 and when they came back a year lager and commandeered downtown for two months with tires and bamboo spikes and bloodshed. That same proportion keeps rallying around T, even though he's proven in dozens of ways what a scoundrel he is. No matter what low down act he does, or denigrating thing he utters, he will forever be a hero to the Reds. Even if he were to not pay taxes on his multi-billions or if he commanded a force which killed nearly a hundred young men in gov't detention, he would still be a hero to die hard Reds.

Oh wait a moment, now that I think about it, .......he already did those things.

[jayboy]

or if he commanded a force which killed nearly a hundred young men in gov't detention

Actually he didn't.He was PM at the time and after the Tak Bai massacre made some foolish and ill advised remarks.But he did not command the force responsible which was of course the Thai army.No generals took responsibility and the officers concerned were absolved of all charges under a military court under the Abhisit administration.

[hammered]

It will be interesting to see how Thaksin uses the flood later. Right now he stays quiet but is fully aware that he was always regarded, even by his enemies, as the the most effective can do PM - Abhisit was weak and couldnt control the bureaucracy, the military government couldnt get any first choices to work for them, and Yingluck hasnt shown control over the bureaucracy her brother did. After such a natural disaster I would be surprised if there were no people thinking if Thaksin came back we could sort this recovery out a lot better, and Im sure he will give public advice from afar

[Crushdepth]

or if he commanded a force which killed nearly a hundred young men in gov't detention

Actually he didn't.He was PM at the time and after the Tak Bai massacre made some foolish and ill advised remarks.But he did not command the force responsible which was of course the Thai army.No generals took responsibility and the officers concerned were absolved of all charges under a military court under the Abhisit administration.

The failure to pursue adequate charges against those involved in this atrocity lays at the feet of the Thaksin administration, get your facts straight. He should have hung them out to dry but chose to try and cover for the "deaths" instead. And his remarks were more than foolish, they were base and disgusting:

"They died because their bodies were weak from fasting". That's what Thaksin said in English on a televised doorstop interview. That's the point at which I began to despise the man, and maybe you'll understand why I also despise those who apologise for and support him.

[jayboy]

The failure to pursue adequate charges against those involved in this atrocity lays at the feet of the Thaksin administration, get your facts straight. He should have hung them out to dry but chose to try and cover for the "deaths" instead. And his remarks were more than foolish, they were base and disgusting:

"They died because their bodies were weak from fasting". That's what Thaksin said in English on a televised doorstop interview. That's the point at which I began to despise the man, and maybe you'll understand why I also despise those who apologise for and support him.

Spare us the selective indignation, and at least try to be honest about this and get your facts straight.

I don't disagree with what you say about Thaksin's remarks.But the criminality rests squarely with the army.Its internal enquiry which issued its conclusions under the Abhisit administration was a whitewash, with the officers concerned found not guilty on all charges.No senior officers took responsibility in line with the long tradition of the Thai army generals never accounting for their crimes.If you get some obscure satisfaction in laying all the nation's problems at the feet of man, so be it but it is a puerile position to take in my view.If Thaksin shuffled off his coil today, do you seriously think an unreformed Thai army could never commit such an outrageous crime again?

[rubl]

The failure to pursue adequate charges against those involved in this atrocity lays at the feet of the Thaksin administration, get your facts straight. He should have hung them out to dry but chose to try and cover for the "deaths" instead. And his remarks were more than foolish, they were base and disgusting:

"They died because their bodies were weak from fasting". That's what Thaksin said in English on a televised doorstop interview. That's the point at which I began to despise the man, and maybe you'll understand why I also despise those who apologise for and support him.

Spare us the selective indignation, and at least try to be honest about this and get your facts straight.

I don't disagree with what you say about Thaksin's remarks.But the criminality rests squarely with the army.Its internal enquiry which issued its conclusions under the Abhisit administration was a whitewash, with the officers concerned found not guilty on all charges.No senior officers took responsibility in line with the long tradition of the Thai army generals never accounting for their crimes.If you get some obscure satisfaction in laying all the nation's problems at the feet of man, so be it but it is a puerile position to take in my view.If Thaksin shuffled off his coil today, do you seriously think an unreformed Thai army could never commit such an outrageous crime again?

Your reasoning implies that unlike the red-shirt / UDD community you would put most of the deaths in April/May 2010 at the doorsteps of the army rather than k. Abhisit / Suthep ?

Anyway k. Thaksin can return at any time he wants, just this minor item of being a convicted criminal with 2 years sentence awaiting him and lots of other cases which could then commence. To suggest k. Thaksin would know how to tackle the after flood problems in no time is (of course) ignoring this status and the fact that even when difficult decisions need to be made, they need to be made democratically, not by dictate nor by just saying 'solve this'

Edited November 8, 2011 by rubl

[jayboy]

Your reasoning implies that unlike the red-shirt / UDD community you would put most of the deaths in April/May 2010 at the doorsteps of the army rather than k. Abhisit / Suthep ?

Not really, in fact not at all because Abhisit/Suthep were directly involved in the decision to use live fire on protestors.

In the case of Tak Bai, Thaksin knew nothing about it until after the event.

[Artisi]

It will be interesting to see how Thaksin uses the flood later. Right now he stays quiet but is fully aware that he was always regarded, even by his enemies, as the the most effective can do PM - Abhisit was weak and couldnt control the bureaucracy, the military government couldnt get any first choices to work for them, and Yingluck hasnt shown control over the bureaucracy her brother did. After such a natural disaster I would be surprised if there were no people thinking if Thaksin came back we could sort this recovery out a lot better, and Im sure he will give public advice from afar

If the fuguitive messiah is so great and holy, only capable of spewing forth words of wisdom in the correction of all that is wrong in Thailand, how come he has been so quiet of the matter of the floods and the lead-up to the disaster. As he knows all, surely the warning to release water from the already filled dams should have been made sometime back - - the cry of Thaksin thinks etc etc seems to have fallen short, or is it only applied in matters that are in his self interest.

[rubl]

Your reasoning implies that unlike the red-shirt / UDD community you would put most of the deaths in April/May 2010 at the doorsteps of the army rather than k. Abhisit / Suthep ?

Not really, in fact not at all because Abhisit/Suthep were directly involved in the decision to use live fire on protestors.

In the case of Tak Bai, Thaksin knew nothing about it until after the event.

K. Thaksin's well-know, and advocated management style 'go, do it', 'solve it', suggests an utter contempt for how it's done. Don't bother me with details, it's up to you. Or in the words of Pheu Thai party list MP and UDD leader k. Nattawut 'let them come to me, I take responsibility' and sue any who dares to say a single word

(scene: VIP says 'I have a problem', servants go 'does your problem have a name?' Canterbury, 1170 AD)

Edited November 8, 2011 by rubl

[jayboy]

K. Thaksin's well-know, and advocated management style 'go, do it', 'solve it', suggests an utter contempt for how it's done. Don't bother me with details, it's up to you. Or in the words of Pheu Thai party list MP and UDD leader k. Nattawut 'let them come to me, I take responsibility' and sue any who dares to say a single word

(scene: VIP says 'I have a problem', servants go 'does your problem have a name?' Canterbury, 1170 AD)

The Henry 2 parallel doesn't really work.The Thai army is a law to itself and has committed crimes against civilians in the South before, during and after Thaksin's time in government.It is never accountable and the criminals concerned are never brought to justice.