9 Red-Shirts Sentenced For Arson In Udon Thani

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9 reds sentenced for arson in Udon Thani

The Nation

Nine red-shirt supporters in Udon Thani were sentenced yesterday for torching the provincial hall in the aftermath of the riots in Bangkok in May last year, while 13 others were acquitted because they had done their time for smaller crimes.

The Udon Thani court also ordered the nine, convicted of arson or damaging government property, to pay for the damages. Three of the arsonists need to come up with Bt142 million, two have to pay Bt57.7 million, while four of the convicts need to pay Bt20,000 each. They will be charged 7.5 per cent annual interest until all the money is paid.

The longest jail terms for the five arsonists, including a man who was a minor at the time of the crime, range between 20-and-a-half and 22-and-a-half years. One convict was sentenced to four-and-a-half years in jail, while three others got two-and-a-half years. Defence lawyer Khanittha Ratthakarn said she would appeal the verdict.

The 13 convicted for lesser crimes were initially sentenced to six months, which was then halved because they confessed and later waived because the judges believed they had served enough for their crimes.

On Thursday, 13 red-shirt supporters in Mukdahan were each handed a 20-year term for torching the city hall, while 16 others were acquitted. Defence lawyer Anont Nampha said they would file an appeal against the verdict.

-- The Nation 2011-10-29

[jonclark]

" Three of the arsonists need to come up with Bt142 million"

Ouch...that's a bit more than the 500 bahts they might have been paid in the first place to attend the rally.

[canopy]

Suggestion: keep persons regardless of shirt color in jail for the damages they made until full payment is received or their term has ended, whichever happens last.

[scorecard]

Now looking forward to some comments from the paymaster, jatuporn, and especially nattawut who said in plain langauge that he would take full responsibility.

Perhaps the paymaster, who is clearly the ultimate mastermind, might like to pay the 142million etc.

But i ain't holding my breath.

Edited October 29, 2011 by scorecard

[pimay11]

I wonder why Jutaporn has not been indicted on accessory charges. These reds were only following his orders as one of the red leaders. During one of his democracy speeches which can be seen on Youtube he said "If you seize power from us, then we'll burn the whole country down. Burn it, burn everything, my brothers — Guarantee: Bangkok will turn into a sea of flames. Those of you who live in the country, it's OK if you cannot join us. If anything happens, just gather at your provincial or city halls. No need to wait for the order. Burn your city halls down to the ground."

[Misterwhisper]

I wonder why Jutaporn has not been indicted on accessory charges. These reds were only following his orders as one of the red leaders. During one of his democracy speeches which can be seen on Youtube he said "If you seize power from us, then we'll burn the whole country down. Burn it, burn everything, my brothers — Guarantee: Bangkok will turn into a sea of flames. Those of you who live in the country, it's OK if you cannot join us. If anything happens, just gather at your provincial or city halls. No need to wait for the order. Burn your city halls down to the ground."

Well said. That's one of the reasons why Jatuporn was in such a rush to push for elections, so he could hide behind his parliamentary immunity once again. That also was the reason why he lamented while in jail that he should be allowed to vote, that it was his right as a citizen (although 'normal' people serving terms in Thailand generally lose that right). Without the right to vote he could not have stood as an election candidate.

[Crushdepth]

Suggestion: keep persons regardless of shirt color in jail for the damages they made until full payment is received or their term has ended, whichever happens last.

Now there's a novel idea, apply the law

[backtonormal]

I wonder why Jutaporn has not been indicted on accessory charges. These reds were only following his orders as one of the red leaders. During one of his democracy speeches which can be seen on Youtube he said "If you seize power from us, then we'll burn the whole country down. Burn it, burn everything, my brothers — Guarantee: Bangkok will turn into a sea of flames. Those of you who live in the country, it's OK if you cannot join us. If anything happens, just gather at your provincial or city halls. No need to wait for the order. Burn your city halls down to the ground."

Well said. That's one of the reasons why Jatuporn was in such a rush to push for elections, so he could hide behind his parliamentary immunity once again. That also was the reason why he lamented while in jail that he should be allowed to vote, that it was his right as a citizen (although 'normal' people serving terms in Thailand generally lose that right). Without the right to vote he could not have stood as an election candidate.

I am of the belief that these Udon convictions and the previous ones for arson will all be quashed under the 'amnesty'. The same amnesty that absolves Abhisit of his crimes and brings Thaksin home. Its just a show for the onlooking punters. Never believe what you see in Thailand, scratch the surface and see the muck underneath

[whybother]

I am of the belief that these Udon convictions and the previous ones for arson will all be quashed under the 'amnesty'. The same amnesty that absolves Abhisit of his crimes and brings Thaksin home. Its just a show for the onlooking punters. Never believe what you see in Thailand, scratch the surface and see the muck underneath

Abhisit will need to be charged first.

[Steely Dan]

I'm sure a rich foreign based benefactor could come up with 142 million baht - though I admit it's cheaper publicity to have your name plastered on aid vehicles.

[Tanaka]

I am of the belief that these Udon convictions and the previous ones for arson will all be quashed under the 'amnesty'. The same amnesty that absolves Abhisit of his crimes and brings Thaksin home. Its just a show for the onlooking punters. Never believe what you see in Thailand, scratch the surface and see the muck underneath

Abhisit will need to be charged first.

For what?

[huanga]

I am of the belief that these Udon convictions and the previous ones for arson will all be quashed under the 'amnesty'. The same amnesty that absolves Abhisit of his crimes and brings Thaksin home. Its just a show for the onlooking punters. Never believe what you see in Thailand, scratch the surface and see the muck underneath

Abhisit will need to be charged first.

For what?

For not being red.

Edited October 29, 2011 by huanga

[OzMick]

I'm sure a rich foreign based benefactor could come up with 142 million baht - though I admit it's cheaper publicity to have your name plastered on aid vehicles.

Actually, I would rather see the paymaster and his mercenary agitators have a share of the jail sentence. Incitement and conspiracy to commit crimes should carry equal punishment.

[Steely Dan]

I'm sure a rich foreign based benefactor could come up with 142 million baht - though I admit it's cheaper publicity to have your name plastered on aid vehicles.

Actually, I would rather see the paymaster and his mercenary agitators have a share of the jail sentence. Incitement and conspiracy to commit crimes should carry equal punishment.

I'm afraid that benefits of illegal behavior are funneled to the top, whilst any repercussions sink to the lowest ranked fall guy available - According to the gospel of red democracy of course. :jap:

[pimay11]

I wonder why Jutaporn has not been indicted on accessory charges. These reds were only following his orders as one of the red leaders. During one of his democracy speeches which can be seen on Youtube he said "If you seize power from us, then we'll burn the whole country down. Burn it, burn everything, my brothers — Guarantee: Bangkok will turn into a sea of flames. Those of you who live in the country, it's OK if you cannot join us. If anything happens, just gather at your provincial or city halls. No need to wait for the order. Burn your city halls down to the ground."

Well said. That's one of the reasons why Jatuporn was in such a rush to push for elections, so he could hide behind his parliamentary immunity once again. That also was the reason why he lamented while in jail that he should be allowed to vote, that it was his right as a citizen (although 'normal' people serving terms in Thailand generally lose that right). Without the right to vote he could not have stood as an election candidate.

I am of the belief that these Udon convictions and the previous ones for arson will all be quashed under the 'amnesty'. The same amnesty that absolves Abhisit of his crimes and brings Thaksin home. Its just a show for the onlooking punters. Never believe what you see in Thailand, scratch the surface and see the muck underneath

That's the word on the street here in Udon. My maid's brother is one of the big boys in the red mob of thugs here. She told me this morning that he is telling everyone not to worry because Thaksin will see to it that everyone has amnesty. Go figure.

[KKvampire]

I wonder why Jutaporn has not been indicted on accessory charges. These reds were only following his orders as one of the red leaders. During one of his democracy speeches which can be seen on Youtube he said "If you seize power from us, then we'll burn the whole country down. Burn it, burn everything, my brothers — Guarantee: Bangkok will turn into a sea of flames. Those of you who live in the country, it's OK if you cannot join us. If anything happens, just gather at your provincial or city halls. No need to wait for the order. Burn your city halls down to the ground."

Exactly , Incitement to riot, arson . is as serious if not more serious than the act itself. witness sentences in the Uk for incitement to riot in August , 4 years, but hey this is Thailand and the guy who mouthed such crimes is in parliament , kinda says it all about politics in LOS

PS You can see jatuporn grinning from ear to ear and spouting diarrohea every evening on the Red TV channel

Edited October 29, 2011 by KKvampire

[pimay11]

I wonder why Jutaporn has not been indicted on accessory charges. These reds were only following his orders as one of the red leaders. During one of his democracy speeches which can be seen on Youtube he said "If you seize power from us, then we'll burn the whole country down. Burn it, burn everything, my brothers — Guarantee: Bangkok will turn into a sea of flames. Those of you who live in the country, it's OK if you cannot join us. If anything happens, just gather at your provincial or city halls. No need to wait for the order. Burn your city halls down to the ground."

Exactly , Incitement to riot, arson . is as serious if not more serious than the act itself. witness sentences in the Uk for incitement to riot in August , 4 years, but hey this is Thailand and the guy who mouthed such crimes is in parliament , kinda says it all about politics in LOS

PS You can see jatuporn grinning from ear to ear and spouting diarrohea every evening on the Red TV channel

Yes sir his priorities are in the right places. Instead of being on the front line helping the very people he represents he is on TV every day prasing K T and blaming the flood on the Democrats.

[rubl]

I am of the belief that these Udon convictions and the previous ones for arson will all be quashed under the 'amnesty'. The same amnesty that absolves Abhisit of his crimes and brings Thaksin home. Its just a show for the onlooking punters. Never believe what you see in Thailand, scratch the surface and see the muck underneath

That's the word on the street here in Udon. My maid's brother is one of the big boys in the red mob of thugs here. She told me this morning that he is telling everyone not to worry because Thaksin will see to it that everyone has amnesty. Go figure.

Not to worry, just relax in your comfy jail and wait it out. Enjoy your time there. Contemplate on life, fate and you're usefulness as martyrs for the cause. Imagine, now we can accuse the government of wrongfully sentencing peaceful red-shirts in purely politically motivated cases. Down with the government

[pimay11]

I wonder why Jutaporn has not been indicted on accessory charges. These reds were only following his orders as one of the red leaders. During one of his democracy speeches which can be seen on Youtube he said "If you seize power from us, then we'll burn the whole country down. Burn it, burn everything, my brothers — Guarantee: Bangkok will turn into a sea of flames. Those of you who live in the country, it's OK if you cannot join us. If anything happens, just gather at your provincial or city halls. No need to wait for the order. Burn your city halls down to the ground."

Exactly , Incitement to riot, arson . is as serious if not more serious than the act itself. witness sentences in the Uk for incitement to riot in August , 4 years, but hey this is Thailand and the guy who mouthed such crimes is in parliament , kinda says it all about politics in LOS

PS You can see jatuporn grinning from ear to ear and spouting diarrohea every evening on the Red TV channel

Yes sir his priorities are in the right places. Instead of being on the front line helping the very people he represents he is on TV every day prasing K T and blaming the flood on the Democrats.

PS. It is interesting that even the staunchest red shirt/K T supporters on TV never defend this guy or his actions. How can they?

[whybother]

PS. It is interesting that even the staunchest red shirt/K T supporters on TV never defend this guy or his actions. How can they?

For the same reasons that Suthep is never defended.

[pimay11]

PS. It is interesting that even the staunchest red shirt/K T supporters on TV never defend this guy or his actions. How can they?

For the same reasons that Suthep is never defended.

Exactly

[KKvampire]

PS. It is interesting that even the staunchest red shirt/K T supporters on TV never defend this guy or his actions. How can they?

In Public but behind the scenes you can be sure many of them do,no opposition to him being on the MP party list

Edited October 29, 2011 by KKvampire

[OzMick]

PS. It is interesting that even the staunchest red shirt/K T supporters on TV never defend this guy or his actions. How can they?

In Public but behind the scenes you can be sure many of them do,no opposition to him being on the MP party list

Brother #1 wrote the party list - QED

[scorecard]

PS. It is interesting that even the staunchest red shirt/K T supporters on TV never defend this guy or his actions. How can they?

In Public but behind the scenes you can be sure many of them do,no opposition to him being on the MP party list

Brother #1 wrote the party list - QED

He's a part of brother # 1's master plan, ethics & honesty not part of the plan.

[ginjag]

" Three of the arsonists need to come up with Bt142 million"

Ouch...that's a bit more than the 500 bahts they might have been paid in the first place to attend the rally.

He He, nice one, paymaster ought to have been amongst them.

I wished that the topic had been -some person sentenced for torching 9 red villages