Vanderlay's Post Moved.

[vanderlay]

well im new to this site and not sure if im doing it right but will ask you a question and just see.I have just returned from thailand after trying to get my gf a visa so she could come to australia with me,as she does not have a job it was knocked on the head.I was of trying to get one of those visa company's to help and was hopeing you might have a list that i could go through.

cheers vanderlay

Edited November 22, 2005 by the scouser

[the scouser]

Vanderlay,

Your question will probably get a better response as a separate topic, I've therefore moved your post to this thread.

All I'll say, is to be careful which agency you choose as there are many cowboys out there. Secondly, an agency can only really advise you on how best to present the application. If you g/f's visa was refused because she has no job, going to an agency is not going to alter that fact.

Scouse.

[gburns57au]

well im new to this site and not sure if im doing it right but will ask you a question and just see.I have just returned from thailand after trying to get my gf a visa so she could come to australia with me,as she does not have a job it was knocked on the head.I was of trying to get one of those visa company's to help and was hopeing you might have a list that i could go through.

cheers vanderlay

It would not be refused because she has no job, More than likely one of the following reasons may apply;

You havent known her long enough or produced evidence of an ongoing relationship.

You havent offered to support her while she is here or failed to produce evidence of your support and means of support. Essential if she is unemployed.

You havent provided enough documentation in support of her application.

Using a company wont be of any assistance as it is the same embassy that decides on the application. If you read back through the relevant topics in this thread I am sure you will find all the info you need on Visa'a to Oz, There was a lot of posts on it a few months back.

[peter991]

Vanderlay: The Scouser and GBurns basically beat me to the reply, but if I can also add whether you wish to take a Thai gf OR Thai bf to Australia, the Australian Embassy's overriding concern is that your Thai partner will not overstay their visa to Australia and will return to Thailand. Does she have sufficient reason to return to Thailand? A job to go back to? Does she own property etc?

To this extent, your need to show that you have known your Thai partner for a minimum of 18 months. Do you have any evidence of this? For example - photos of the two of you together, stamps in your passport that you have spent time in Thailand (presumably with your partner), emails between the two of you and telephone records of conversations between both of you.

You will need to resubmit an application 48R.

Make sure when your girl-friend gets her interview that she tells the interviewing officer that she is going to Australia for a HOLIDAY. Many Thais get excited about the prospect of visiting Australia and want to WORK and any chance of a visa will get killed on the spot of they mention the words WORK in Australia.

She also needs a Letter of Invitation from YOU, inviting her to visit Australia for a HOLIDAY. In your letter, you should state that you are inviting her to Australia and you will take care of all her expenses - including any medical expenses. She also needs to show a bank book with (about) 60,000 baht in it - so she can support herself if your relationship breaks up while both of you are in Australia (I hope it doesn't!).

The more documents you can produce, the better her chances of getting a visa.

Best wishes and please keep the Forum advised of your progress.

Peter

[gburns57au]

Vanderlay: The Scouser and GBurns basically beat me to the reply, but if I can also add whether you wish to take a Thai gf OR Thai bf to Australia, the Australian Embassy's overriding concern is that your Thai partner will not overstay their visa to Australia and will return to Thailand. Does she have sufficient reason to return to Thailand? A job to go back to? Does she own property etc?

To this extent, your need to show that you have known your Thai partner for a minimum of 18 months. Do you have any evidence of this? For example - photos of the two of you together, stamps in your passport that you have spent time in Thailand (presumably with your partner), emails between the two of you and telephone records of conversations between both of you.

You will need to resubmit an application 48R.

Make sure when your girl-friend gets her interview that she tells the interviewing officer that she is going to Australia for a HOLIDAY. Many Thais get excited about the prospect of visiting Australia and want to WORK and any chance of a visa will get killed on the spot of they mention the words  WORK in Australia.

She also needs a Letter of Invitation from YOU, inviting her to visit Australia for a HOLIDAY. In your letter, you should state that you are inviting her to Australia and you will take care of all her expenses - including any medical expenses. She also needs to show a bank book with (about) 60,000 baht in it - so she can support herself if your relationship breaks up while both of you are in Australia (I hope it doesn't!).

The more documents you can produce, the better her chances of getting a visa.

Best wishes and please keep the Forum advised of your progress.

Peter

Peter...just a few misnomers in your post.

Minimum of 6 months of proof of knowing each other before they will even look at a Visa. Proof needed eg; dated photos, or photos of annual events, etc...

A stat dec rather than a letter, a SD signed by a JP is a legal document in the embassy's eyes, a letter is not. You will need to mention a holiday only, that you will ensure that she abides by the conditions of the visa, you will support her medically, financially etc... And that you know the penalties for giving false or misleading info ($10,000 or 3 years inside)

As long as you are supporting her and provide proof of your income, she wont need a bank account. My gal is unemployed and we put that on the application, I did a stat dec on financial support, 6 photos of us together (one from Songkran in 2004, we applied in August) Some telephone bills, a few letters and Western Union receipts from January to July, plus 6 months of my payslips. We got our visa first go...mind you I did include my Dept of Justice ID as well.....I am a warranted court officer.

But you are right in that the more docs you have the better.

[peter991]

GBurns: Thanks for clearing up my mistakes. I am glad your partner got her visa okay and I hope the original poster reads and follows your advice.

I am hoping to get a Tourist Visa for my Thai partner soon. Just wondering how convincing the Thai partner has to be about (a) wanting to return home to Thailand and ( how important it is for a Thai to have a job waiting when they get back to Thailand after visiting Australia.

Peter

[Rich05]

"A stat dec rather than a letter, a SD signed by a JP is a legal document in the embassy's eyes, a letter is not."

What does that mean exactly, without the abriviations? And what's it reffering too? The sponsor letter?

And there's another interesting point, is it important or is it a major influence what the sponsor does for a living?

[the scouser]

Rich,

A statutory declaration is a requirement for Australian visa applications; it's akin to an affidavit in the UK. However, they are not required either for UK visa applications or, as far as I'm aware, for Portuguese visa applications.

In general terms, what the sponsor does for a living is not relevant, as long as his/her income is sufficient to support the visa applicant during their stay.

Cheers,

Scouse.

[gburns57au]

"A stat dec rather than a letter, a SD signed by a JP is a legal document in the embassy's eyes, a letter is not."

What does that mean exactly, without the abriviations? And what's it reffering too? The sponsor letter?

And there's another interesting point, is it important or is it a major influence what the sponsor does for a living?

A statutory declaration signed by a Justice of Peace, it is not a requirement for a visa but a well written one will be an advantage with other supporting documents.

As Scouser said the Sponsors occupation is irrelevant, the income is relevant. I mentioned my ID because it is one Government Department to another and being a Warranted Court Officer means that I have undergone State and Federal Police checks and I am supposed to be whiter than white

[gburns57au]

GBurns: Thanks for clearing up my mistakes. I am glad your partner got her visa okay and I hope the original poster reads and follows your advice.

I am hoping to get a Tourist Visa for my Thai partner soon. Just wondering how convincing the Thai partner has to be about (a) wanting to return home to Thailand and ( how important it is for a Thai to have a job waiting when they get back to Thailand after visiting Australia.

Peter

Peter,

There is no convincing needed for a tourist visa, there is no interview. You go to the VFS office and hand in all your docs, they will courier it out to the embassy and the embassy will send it back to VFS after processing (takes 5-6 days) you ring them or check on the net to see if it has been returned to the VFS office and then she can pick it up. It will be returned in a sealed bag that is only opened in the applicants presence.

Once again, IF you are supporting her and that support is sufficient, then her having a job is not important. IF she has a job then she needs a letter from her employer stating that the employer agrees to her taking the time off and that she will have the job when she returns. Most guys bring their girls over for 3 months first go and many Thai employers will not keep jobs open for that long. If she has a job then they may expect her to have a substantial bank account.

Another fallacy is that they wont give Visa's to Bar girls, again this not true. The Embassy arent concerned about her employment in Thailand. They are only concerned with her compliance with all of the visa conditions.

Good Luck with your application, If I can be of assistance??

[mav]

Is 6 months really enough time to wait before applying for a 3 month holiday visa?

We applied after only 6 weeks and it was rejected

I am planning to go back to thailand next month (for the 3rd time) to be with my girlfriend and apply again - this will be exactly 6 months from the time we first met

I don't want to apply if it will be rejected due to 6 months not being long enough

Any thoughts?