chooka Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) Thais are going way off the deep end. First of all, regardless of justification if any, blackmailing a major trading partner and ally is a big error in judgement. Secondly, all news and evidence points to the fact that there is a still a current threat. One need only to see just today, it was announced that the "second" suspect has been identified and arrested. What is wrong with the Thais? They just don't get it about security. They are shooting themselves in the foot. Lastly, what is the problem with the embassy alert on their web site, especially under the circumstances, when in fact the Thais themselves have been quoted in the news as saying "tourist arrivals remain the same as before the posting? Yet you also read that they are suffering the loss of Indian and Chinese tourists. What is the truth? Maybe protest groups should be organized in the United States to picket in front of the Thai embassies in Washington DC and New York as well as the Thai consulates in Chicago and Los Angeles protesting the attempted threat and blackmail of the proposed protest in Bangkok at the US embassy. if the Thais proceed with this preposterous threat to the US, it wouldn't be a surprise to see something like this. As was suggested by another poster in a thread which was closed.....If Travel agents march and protest at Embassies about being hard done by, Why dont a group of Farangs march / protest at goverment offices about the jet ski-scams, general extortion etc etc...wonder what the reaction from the Thai authorites would be then ? Maybe arrested, charged and deported for inciting civil unrest or terrorism. Edited January 20, 2012 by chooka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orac Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Thais are going way off the deep end. First of all, regardless of justification if any, blackmailing a major trading partner and ally is a big error in judgement. Secondly, all news and evidence points to the fact that there is a still a current threat. One need only to see just today, it was announced that the "second" suspect has been identified and arrested. What is wrong with the Thais? They just don't get it about security. They are shooting themselves in the foot. Lastly, what is the problem with the embassy alert on their web site, especially under the circumstances, when in fact the Thais themselves have been quoted in the news as saying "tourist arrivals remain the same as before the posting? Yet you also read that they are suffering the loss of Indian and Chinese tourists. What is the truth? Maybe protest groups should be organized in the United States to picket in front of the Thai embassies in Washington DC and New York as well as the Thai consulates in Chicago and Los Angeles protesting the attempted threat and blackmail of the proposed protest in Bangkok at the US embassy. if the Thais proceed with this preposterous threat to the US, it wouldn't be a surprise to see something like this. As was suggested by another poster in a thread which was closed.....If Travel agents march and protest at Embassies about being hard done by, Why dont a group of Farangs march / protest at goverment offices about the jet ski-scams, general extortion etc etc...wonder what the reaction from the Thai authorites would be then ? Can't exactly see many farangs wanting to do this, particularly those not from the US. As for counter protest in the US it does seem to be a bit far fetched at the moment but who knows where this could lead if the problem escalates. To be cynical a cooling of the relationship between US and Thailand could lead to a boost in tourism from the new growth markets of Russia, China and the Middle East. Also with Israel being involved as well, it won't do any harm with ASEAN partners like Malaysia and Indonesia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Thais are going way off the deep end. First of all, regardless of justification if any, blackmailing a major trading partner and ally is a big error in judgement. Secondly, all news and evidence points to the fact that there is a still a current threat. One need only to see just today, it was announced that the "second" suspect has been identified and arrested. What is wrong with the Thais? They just don't get it about security. They are shooting themselves in the foot. Lastly, what is the problem with the embassy alert on their web site, especially under the circumstances, when in fact the Thais themselves have been quoted in the news as saying "tourist arrivals remain the same as before the posting? Yet you also read that they are suffering the loss of Indian and Chinese tourists. What is the truth? Maybe protest groups should be organized in the United States to picket in front of the Thai embassies in Washington DC and New York as well as the Thai consulates in Chicago and Los Angeles protesting the attempted threat and blackmail of the proposed protest in Bangkok at the US embassy. if the Thais proceed with this preposterous threat to the US, it wouldn't be a surprise to see something like this. As was suggested by another poster in a thread which was closed.....If Travel agents march and protest at Embassies about being hard done by, Why dont a group of Farangs march / protest at goverment offices about the jet ski-scams, general extortion etc etc...wonder what the reaction from the Thai authorites would be then ? Can't exactly see many farangs wanting to do this, particularly those not from the US. As for counter protest in the US it does seem to be a bit far fetched at the moment but who knows where this could lead if the problem escalates. To be cynical a cooling of the relationship between US and Thailand could lead to a boost in tourism from the new growth markets of Russia, China and the Middle East. Also with Israel being involved as well, it won't do any harm with ASEAN partners like Malaysia and Indonesia. Already popular with Indonesians like Jemaah Islamiah who want Thailand to be part of their Islamic State, along with Australia, PNG and PI. I regularly read about Iranians getting a warm welcome at Customs. Some more Jordanians (and even Syrians, etc) stockpiling bomb materials could also give the economy a boost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Already popular with Indonesians like Jemaah Islamiah who want Thailand to be part of their Islamic State, along with Australia, PNG and PI. I regularly read about Iranians getting a warm welcome at Customs. Some more Jordanians (and even Syrians, etc) stockpiling bomb materials could also give the economy a boost. A new regional "hub" in the making perhaps ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichinThailand Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I wonder if they ever considered that a demonstration would just put the warning back in the news again?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I wonder if they ever considered that a demonstration would just put the warning back in the news again?? How long you been in Thailand ?....you should know by now that very little thought is ever given to the consequences of ones actions.....if consequences were considered we would see less people riding the motobikes without helmets, carrying babies, the family dog etc... Instant gratification is the order of the day in Thailand, not very good at looking at the big picture.....its all me...me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PingManDan Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) Thailand is finding out the US and it's Embassy warning are not to be taken lightly, pushing their weight around, with them. I for one still think there is plenty of info we are not being told here, more Thailand crap they think we should swallow. Good on the US for sticking with it, at least they care for their peoples safety and welfare, while in Thailand. unlike Thailand Edited January 20, 2012 by PingManDan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 at least they care for their peoples safety and welfare, while in Thailand. unlike Thailand Well dont think its a case of caring, if they didnt issue the warnings and some US citizen was killed in Thailand due to terrorists, then there may be grounds to sue the goverment in the US for not informing people, also while warnings like this are in effect travel insurance polices could be affected....so not only doing it out the goodness of their heart I am sure.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post animatic Posted January 20, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) In the other paper a few days ago there was a reference to Thailand not wanting Hezbollah to go against them for being un-friendly towards Hezbollah operations in Thailand. With absolutely no consideration that, they, in turning a blind eye to Hezbollah operations makes Thailand a target of their legitimate trading partners. So now, we see Thai groups freaking out about the warning, still being up over simple tourist loses, but what about major trade losses being at stake? What if Australia, Great Britain, France, Canada and USA ALL decided that ' Thailand is aiding and abetting Hezbollah in terrorist operations on Thai soil.' And made permanent travel warnings and citizen travel restrictions, and economic embargoes against Thailand, for the same? For example if Thailand was seen turning a blind eye AND something they ignored killed dozens including nationals of several of the above states, somewhere else, and this ignoring of multiple nations concerns is laid to rest at Thailands feet? Bali Two. What then. Don't rail at me about your pet hates for any of the countries above, I am simply explaining one possibility. Aid and abet a terrorist group in doing terrorism rather than risk becomeing a target for not allowing their machinations on your soil? This is a proper governent policy?'' I suggest that Thailand needs to grow a pair to function properly on the modern world stage. Edited January 20, 2012 by animatic 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshinegirl Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Thais are going way off the deep end. First of all, regardless of justification if any, blackmailing a major trading partner and ally is a big error in judgement. Secondly, all news and evidence points to the fact that there is a still a current threat. One need only to see just today, it was announced that the "second" suspect has been identified and arrested. What is wrong with the Thais? They just don't get it about security. They are shooting themselves in the foot. Lastly, what is the problem with the embassy alert on their web site, especially under the circumstances, when in fact the Thais themselves have been quoted in the news as saying "tourist arrivals remain the same as before the posting? Yet you also read that they are suffering the loss of Indian and Chinese tourists. What is the truth? Maybe protest groups should be organized in the United States to picket in front of the Thai embassies in Washington DC and New York as well as the Thai consulates in Chicago and Los Angeles protesting the attempted threat and blackmail of the proposed protest in Bangkok at the US embassy. if the Thais proceed with this preposterous threat to the US, it wouldn't be a surprise to see something like this. As was suggested by another poster in a thread which was closed.....If Travel agents march and protest at Embassies about being hard done by, Why dont a group of Farangs march / protest at goverment offices about the jet ski-scams, general extortion etc etc...wonder what the reaction from the Thai authorites would be then ? Totally agree .They should be targeting the jet ski scammers. Come to pattaya anyday and we will all join you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) Aid and abet a terrorist group in doing terrorism I suggest that Thailand needs to grow a pair to function properly on the modern world stage. I think if you look you will find some large countries aid & abet terrorist groups when it suits their needs. But during those times they called them freedom fighters. Later when they did not do their masters bidding they were deemed terrorist As for growing a pair............I think Thailand does fine & proved it today when they recognized Palestine along with 128 other countries But what I wonder most these days when the Thai news section seems pretty much 100% slagging Thailand's government is if any of the slaggers live in Thailand? If so why then? It is not like living in ones own country where complaining might bring change in elections you can vote in. Just curious Edited January 20, 2012 by flying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maprao Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 There protest at the embassy may do more damage than the warning on the US Embassy's website. Idiots!! +1 I wish they would march on the Pattaya jet ski scammers also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I wonder if they ever considered that a demonstration would just put the warning back in the news again?? I was thinking the same thing. Sometimes it's best to let a storm blow over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) Aid and abet a terrorist group in doing terrorism I suggest that Thailand needs to grow a pair to function properly on the modern world stage. I think if you look you will find some large countries aid & abet terrorist groups when it suits their needs. But during those times they called them freedom fighters. Later when they did not do their masters bidding they were deemed terrorist As for growing a pair............I think Thailand does fine & proved it today when they recognized Palestine along with 128 other countries But what I wonder most these days when the Thai news section seems pretty much 100% slagging Thailand's government is if any of the slaggers live in Thailand? If so why then? It is not like living in ones own country where complaining might bring change in elections you can vote in. Just curious If just 'coming to a decision' to recognize Palestine as growing a pair, then Brava! I think they wouldn't have bothered or cared, but this was the best they could do in protest of their fragile egos being trounced, to stand up and be counted as anything but irrelevant. It doesn't aid Hezbollah much, but won't please Israel much either. The USA really won't care, but may act 'to make a point' at some time. Of course this IS saying that the a disjointed government that is 1/2 run by a terrorist organization, is fine in Thailands Governments estimation. Well why not they have Nattuwat in the cabinet while under charges of terrorism, why would THAT fact x 50 with Hezbollah bother this government? Expedience and face rule this governments every decision, that Thaksin doesn't already dictate. Edited January 20, 2012 by animatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erobando Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I wonder if they ever considered that a demonstration would just put the warning back in the news again?? I was thinking the same thing. Sometimes it's best to let a storm blow over. Likely true. None of the people I've talked to in the US even know about this incident/story. Eventually it will play out one way or another, the warning regarding Bangkok will be lifted and most people will be none the wiser. If the protest generates press, more people (including future potential tourists) will become aware of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackthorn2005 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Surapong also expressed confidence that foreign terrorists would not stage any attack in Thailand because the country had been friendly to all. Yingluck's clownish cousin, Surapong, dribbles out another memorable line. . ' terrorists would not stage any attack in Thailand because the country had been friendly to all." Sure, there are no problems in the south of the country.TTT Typical Thai Tourism, putting money before safety! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 US terror alert sends psychological impact on Thai tourism BANGKOK, 20 January 2012 (NNT) – The Ministry of Tourism and Sports (MOTS) stated that the terror alert issued by the US would affect Thai tourism psychologically causing a lower number of arrivals. The private sector is preparing to submit a letter requesting the US embassy to cancel the warning. Mr. Watchara Kannika, Spokesman of the MOTS, has announced the result of the committee on national tourism policy meeting that the terror warning by the US has not yet brought concrete impacts to Thai tourism, but psychological effects are likely as tourists may postpone their trips to Thailand, according the estimation by tour entrepreneurs. Mr. Watchara said the tourism sector also urged the government to hastily solve this problem. Mr Watchara indicates that the MOTS is preparing to clarify the country’s situation to the US. Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra has ordered the setting up of a committee to evaluate the situation and lay down measures in case the US does not lift its warning within 1-2 weeks. -- NNT 2012-01-20 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra has ordered the setting up of a committee to evaluate the situation and lay down measures in case the US does not lift its warning within 1-2 weeks. uh oh.... Yingluck is gonna lay down the law with the USA.... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Why do I get the feeling FARANGS will get blamed as a class, and visa requirements and checks and FEES will all get harder to get by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra has ordered the setting up of a committee to evaluate the situation and lay down measures in case the US does not lift its warning within 1-2 weeks. uh oh.... Yingluck is gonna lay down the law with the USA.... . How do we grovel without looking like we're groveling, and what can we do that they will believe is enough to make it all go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra has ordered the setting up of a committee to evaluate the situation and lay down measures in case the US does not lift its warning within 1-2 weeks. -- NNT 2012-01-20 LOL....I wonder what the measures will be ?......bursting into tears or a phone call to Obama saying "do you know who I am" Primary school children running a country... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z12 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 When you lie with terrorists, you'll lose your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 US terror alert sends psychological impact on Thai tourism BANGKOK, 20 January 2012 (NNT) – The Ministry of Tourism and Sports (MOTS) stated that the terror alert issued by the US would affect Thai tourism psychologically causing a lower number of arrivals. The private sector is preparing to submit a letter requesting the US embassy to cancel the warning. Mr. Watchara Kannika, Spokesman of the MOTS, has announced the result of the committee on national tourism policy meeting that the terror warning by the US has not yet brought concrete impacts to Thai tourism, but psychological effects are likely as tourists may postpone their trips to Thailand, according the estimation by tour entrepreneurs. Mr. Watchara said the tourism sector also urged the government to hastily solve this problem. Mr Watchara indicates that the MOTS is preparing to clarify the country’s situation to the US. Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra has ordered the setting up of a committee to evaluate the situation and lay down measures in case the US does not lift its warning within 1-2 weeks. -- NNT 2012-01-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Why do I get the feeling FARANGS will get blamed as a class, and visa requirements and checks and FEES will all get harder to get by. They should just blame the yanks.......... "Americans to the back of the queue!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z12 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) Aid and abet a terrorist group in doing terrorism I suggest that Thailand needs to grow a pair to function properly on the modern world stage. I think if you look you will find some large countries aid & abet terrorist groups when it suits their needs. But during those times they called them freedom fighters. Later when they did not do their masters bidding they were deemed terrorist As for growing a pair............I think Thailand does fine & proved it today when they recognized Palestine along with 128 other countries But what I wonder most these days when the Thai news section seems pretty much 100% slagging Thailand's government is if any of the slaggers live in Thailand? If so why then? It is not like living in ones own country where complaining might bring change in elections you can vote in. Just curious You consider exploding a huge bomb at tourist sites to be an act of a freedom fighter? So you are ok with people that don't agree with what you believe, to target you, your family, your home, your friends, your neighbors, your work site, your tourist destinations, your restaurant, your night club, your mall, etc etc etc including exterminating everybody that does not believe what your believe. *edited out* Edited January 20, 2012 by Scott inflammatory remark edited out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z12 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Why do I get the feeling FARANGS will get blamed as a class, and visa requirements and checks and FEES will all get harder to get by. They should just blame the yanks.......... "Americans to the back of the queue!" when you punish the victims, evil wins when you punish the perps, evil loses 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicky1982 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) US terror alert sends psychological impact on Thai tourism BANGKOK, 20 January 2012 (NNT) – The Ministry of Tourism and Sports (MOTS) stated that the terror alert issued by the US would affect Thai tourism psychologically causing a lower number of arrivals. The private sector is preparing to submit a letter requesting the US embassy to cancel the warning. Mr. Watchara Kannika, Spokesman of the MOTS, has announced the result of the committee on national tourism policy meeting that the terror warning by the US has not yet brought concrete impacts to Thai tourism, but psychological effects are likely as tourists may postpone their trips to Thailand, according the estimation by tour entrepreneurs. Mr. Watchara said the tourism sector also urged the government to hastily solve this problem. Mr Watchara indicates that the MOTS is preparing to clarify the country’s situation to the US. Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra has ordered the setting up of a committee to evaluate the situation and lay down measures in case the US does not lift its warning within 1-2 weeks. -- NNT 2012-01-20 Numbers are down because nobody can afford to go away and people are paying there visa & master cards off due to Xmas also people can go away close to home and it's not going to cost much plus bad exchange rate doesn't help too ..And if the people did there job right from AOT & Tourism Authority of Thailand stop with all the bs they come out with on an daily basis in the newspapers things may change also maybe the police could get of there fat lazy ass's and clean up the street got rid of the scams and gangs and tuk tuk driver over changing plus the jet ski scams maybe more people would come back .. Also doesn't help with the recent floods ... OMG Edited January 20, 2012 by nicky1982 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softgeorge Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Thais are going way off the deep end. First of all, regardless of justification if any, blackmailing a major trading partner and ally is a big error in judgement. Secondly, all news and evidence points to the fact that there is a still a current threat. One need only to see just today, it was announced that the "second" suspect has been identified and arrested. What is wrong with the Thais? They just don't get it about security. They are shooting themselves in the foot. Lastly, what is the problem with the embassy alert on their web site, especially under the circumstances, when in fact the Thais themselves have been quoted in the news as saying "tourist arrivals remain the same as before the posting? Yet you also read that they are suffering the loss of Indian and Chinese tourists. What is the truth? Maybe protest groups should be organized in the United States to picket in front of the Thai embassies in Washington DC and New York as well as the Thai consulates in Chicago and Los Angeles protesting the attempted threat and blackmail of the proposed protest in Bangkok at the US embassy. if the Thais proceed with this preposterous threat to the US, it wouldn't be a surprise to see something like this. As was suggested by another poster in a thread which was closed.....If Travel agents march and protest at Embassies about being hard done by, Why dont a group of Farangs march / protest at goverment offices about the jet ski-scams, general extortion etc etc...wonder what the reaction from the Thai authorites would be then ? Maybe arrested, charged and deported for inciting civil unrest or terrorism. No terrorism in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softgeorge Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra has ordered the setting up of a committee to evaluate the situation and lay down measures in case the US does not lift its warning within 1-2 weeks. uh oh.... Yingluck is gonna lay down the law with the USA.... . Oh the yanks must be terrified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yougivemebaby Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra has ordered the setting up of a committee to evaluate the situation and lay down measures in case the US does not lift its warning within 1-2 weeks. uh oh.... Yingluck is gonna lay down the law with the USA.... . Whatcha gonna do.. Whatcha gonna do when Yinluck comes for you bad boys bad boys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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