MJo Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 A word of warning don't ever think about going to Indonesia Been regularly going to Indonesia in past few years, never had a problem. Always got change back and no extra's anywhere in the process. Nothing. Other asian nationals like Filipinos though get asked for money quite often in Jakarta immigration but it looks like they are not doing it for farangs. Been in Cambo half a dozen times. Poipet 100 baht as in OP. Next time in PP airport shortchanged. In that mayhem very easy when everyone pushing to the counter. After that always had exact amount so no probs. But it is not so much a scam as it is corruption. Not much you can do except try to minimize your losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehehoho Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Let's not forget that their jobs probably cost a lot of money. And those teenage girls from Vietnam to help them unwind after work aren't for free you know. A bit of salary padding from rich Western travelers doesn't do any harm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poanoi Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) 1] Go to a shop* and buy a pencil video recorder http://bigboyelectro...com/pen-dvr-4gb 2] Record the break of duty/thievery 3] Go to Ministry of tourism here: http://www.yellowpag...listings/kh2664 4] press charges, and if you don't get a good revard for taking those thieves out, -upload on Youtube, and make sure to inform the scum that WILL happen unless you get a reward. *The pencil recorder is for sale in BKK just a couple of stations away from Ekkamai, in a very large PC complex Note: when you go to an official office in PP, you must wear jeans and being otherwise somewhat proper dressed, or the guard won't let you in Edited January 25, 2012 by poanoi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehehoho Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) 1] Go to a shop* and buy a pencil video recorder http://bigboyelectro...com/pen-dvr-4gb 2] Record the break of duty/thievery 3] Go to Ministry of tourism here: http://www.yellowpag...listings/kh2664 4] press charges, and if you don't get a good revard for taking those thieves out, -upload on Youtube, and make sure to inform the scum that WILL happen unless you get a reward. *The pencil recorder is for sale in BKK just a couple of stations away from Ekkamai, in a very large PC complex Note: when you go to an official office in PP, you must wear jeans and being otherwise somewhat proper dressed, or the guard won't let you in All sounds well and good, but in a region where it is so easy for officials to plant such things as child porn or drugs on people, or even say that they were caught with them in their possession, and then have their name, passport page and alleged crime all over the papers, not to mention the jail sentences for such, I'd be wary of publishing crimes of officials under insistence that they are highlighted and dealt with in a Western manner. If the region and its culture rubs you up to that extent, it's probably best to leave for peace of mind. Edited January 25, 2012 by hehehoho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kropotkin Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 1] Go to a shop* and buy a pencil video recorder http://bigboyelectro...com/pen-dvr-4gb 2] Record the break of duty/thievery 3] Go to Ministry of tourism here: http://www.yellowpag...listings/kh2664 4] press charges, and if you don't get a good revard for taking those thieves out, -upload on Youtube, and make sure to inform the scum that WILL happen unless you get a reward. *The pencil recorder is for sale in BKK just a couple of stations away from Ekkamai, in a very large PC complex Note: when you go to an official office in PP, you must wear jeans and being otherwise somewhat proper dressed, or the guard won't let you in All sounds well and good, but in a region where it is so easy for officials to plant such things as child porn or drugs on people, or even say that they were caught with them in their possession, and then have their name, passport page and alleged crime all over the papers, not to mention the jail sentences for such, I'd be wary of publishing crimes of officials under insistence that they are highlighted and dealt with in a Western manner. If the region and its culture rubs you up to that extent, it's probably best to leave for peace of mind. Some people come here to find peace of mind - they are called buddhists. Western buddhists, not thai buddhists. Others come here for sex, surely to them a few 100s baht extra does not matter. Others came for other reasons. In what group are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kropotkin Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 1] Go to a shop* and buy a pencil video recorder http://bigboyelectro...com/pen-dvr-4gb 2] Record the break of duty/thievery 3] Go to Ministry of tourism here: http://www.yellowpag...listings/kh2664 4] press charges, and if you don't get a good revard for taking those thieves out, -upload on Youtube, and make sure to inform the scum that WILL happen unless you get a reward. *The pencil recorder is for sale in BKK just a couple of stations away from Ekkamai, in a very large PC complex Note: when you go to an official office in PP, you must wear jeans and being otherwise somewhat proper dressed, or the guard won't let you in jeans???? proper dress??? In the sixties i did wear jeans and was called a hippy. OK, I was a hippy. And i helped to stop some wars, including the one in Kampuchea. Now others can take over the fight for justice. So i will not buy that camera. And euhhhhh what is Youtube? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnYork Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 paonoi, I appreciate your reply. The problem I face is this, there are signs that clearly post no photographs (ie video survelliance). My attorney and his legal team said they would back me on this, however, the courts in Cambodia can simply rule my video footage as inadmissible and they can even arrest me for making the video. Even if the identity of the traveler being extorted is hidden, it would not be hard for them to cross-reference the video footage to see which traveler was going through the checkpoint at a specific date and time. This extorsion being committed at the Poipet border is not a secret. The Cambodia Department of Immigration is fully aware of it I am sure. I really think a lawsuit will simply result in a payout, but things will just be "business as usual" in the end. I think the solution is to fund a full blown undercover investigation and air it as a special undercover report on a major TV network. I would do this in conjuction with a lawsuit, but I wouldn't do the lawsuit only. I feel they need to be exposed globally to bring about the resistance I want to see. This is not about 100 baht, it is about the principle. A border without integrity is a border which has been compromised. This means it is open to any illegal activity. Think about all the people that can illegally pass through this border, by simply bribing a corrupt immigration officer. Trust me, it happens, if they are so callous as to extort money from innocent travelers, what makes you think they won't take bribes. These officers need to be removed from duty and replaced with honest officers who will do their job with integrity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kropotkin Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Great post. Apologists please answer this one. If stealing, corrupt immigration officers hit innocent travellers for 100 or more baht...... .... do you think they will make problems with terrorists transporting tons of fertilizer, with pedophiles, with you name it? At a proper price of course. But, hey this is Asia, love it or leave it????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
necronx99 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 paonoi, I appreciate your reply. The problem I face is this, there are signs that clearly post no photographs (ie video survelliance). My attorney and his legal team said they would back me on this, however, the courts in Cambodia can simply rule my video footage as inadmissible and they can even arrest me for making the video. Even if the identity of the traveler being extorted is hidden, it would not be hard for them to cross-reference the video footage to see which traveler was going through the checkpoint at a specific date and time. This extorsion being committed at the Poipet border is not a secret. The Cambodia Department of Immigration is fully aware of it I am sure. I really think a lawsuit will simply result in a payout, but things will just be "business as usual" in the end. I think the solution is to fund a full blown undercover investigation and air it as a special undercover report on a major TV network. I would do this in conjuction with a lawsuit, but I wouldn't do the lawsuit only. I feel they need to be exposed globally to bring about the resistance I want to see. This is not about 100 baht, it is about the principle. A border without integrity is a border which has been compromised. This means it is open to any illegal activity. Think about all the people that can illegally pass through this border, by simply bribing a corrupt immigration officer. Trust me, it happens, if they are so callous as to extort money from innocent travelers, what makes you think they won't take bribes. These officers need to be removed from duty and replaced with honest officers who will do their job with integrity. Ok, I get it. Great troll, well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 paonoi, I appreciate your reply. The problem I face is this, there are signs that clearly post no photographs (ie video survelliance). My attorney and his legal team said they would back me on this, however, the courts in Cambodia can simply rule my video footage as inadmissible and they can even arrest me for making the video. Even if the identity of the traveler being extorted is hidden, it would not be hard for them to cross-reference the video footage to see which traveler was going through the checkpoint at a specific date and time. This extorsion being committed at the Poipet border is not a secret. The Cambodia Department of Immigration is fully aware of it I am sure. I really think a lawsuit will simply result in a payout, but things will just be "business as usual" in the end. I think the solution is to fund a full blown undercover investigation and air it as a special undercover report on a major TV network. I would do this in conjuction with a lawsuit, but I wouldn't do the lawsuit only. I feel they need to be exposed globally to bring about the resistance I want to see. This is not about 100 baht, it is about the principle. A border without integrity is a border which has been compromised. This means it is open to any illegal activity. Think about all the people that can illegally pass through this border, by simply bribing a corrupt immigration officer. Trust me, it happens, if they are so callous as to extort money from innocent travelers, what makes you think they won't take bribes. These officers need to be removed from duty and replaced with honest officers who will do their job with integrity. Are you currently living under a bridge Mr Troll ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nong38 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 This border checkpoint is awful, itys a bad experience all round. Do what I did and now do, find another crossing. The police there are nothing short of disgrace and ther immgration officers are arrogant and inefficeint. You dont get this problem or any problems on the Burma crossings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
necronx99 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 This border checkpoint is awful, itys a bad experience all round. Do what I did and now do, find another crossing. The police there are nothing short of disgrace and ther immgration officers are arrogant and inefficeint. You dont get this problem or any problems on the Burma crossings. Correct, many better places to go. I've only been through Poipet twice,once for a visa run. I would rather cut my nads off with a rusty spoon than return there again it is just an unpleasant place..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkokburning Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 The other boarder crossings are potentially worse although Ihave not done them in many years. Trat xing is a perpetual scam. Get a visa at the embassy if you just can't seem to work it out. No way I would trust E visa security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poanoi Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I did the embassy visa, and it cost a lot including taxi, (far outside BKK) it is not worth it. I know a few making e visa and it works well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maprao Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) I used to pay 500 baht to save me the trip across! lol Edited February 3, 2012 by maprao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA_FARANG Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 My only suggestion is....Don't go through Poipet....especially for border runs. Now that i am retired and doing 90 day reporting here in Bangkok. i don't need to do border runs every 90 days like I did with my non O visa. But when I did do border runs I used a service here in Bangkok to a small place called Ban Laem. Everything was included in the fee, including the Cambodian visa. Obviously, the visa run service gave the Cambodians a cut of the money...but I was never asked for any money at the border. Got "priority service" at the border too...because the "fees" had already been arranged and pre-paid. Obviously, someone high up in that immigration point had already arranged for our "priority service" there. All we had to do was make sure our passport was stamped and physically cross into Cambodia, turn around, and then get stamped back into Thailand. So I never went to Poipet Frankly, from what I've heard, Poipet is for losers anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kropotkin Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 So you payed your convenience fee in BKK, and therefore you were not a loser - unlike the ones that pay their convenience fee in Poipet. Great logic, I bow my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJo Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 So you payed your convenience fee in BKK, and therefore you were not a loser - unlike the ones that pay their convenience fee in Poipet. Great logic, I bow my head. Maybe Poipet runners pay the fee once in BKK end and second on at the border ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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