You have settled in, perhaps for many years. You have a house, perhaps a family.

For some reason your visa renewal is rejected with no hope of appeal.

Edited February 3, 201214 yr by necronx99

How about apply for a non-immigrant or tourist visa in other countries? That is what many of us did for many years before it got easier to get long-term visas.

If you're only pinpointing the retirement or marriage visas, still wouldn't be a great problem - inconvenient, yes.

One still has the option of the general 60-day [and 1 month extension] visa, as well as the 6-month deal [2-month checks]. Technically, these don't fall under the non-imm "O" or non-imm "B".

Saving grace would be those that reside near a border point.

Even today, there are scores of long-timer residents that won't play the game of securing the long-term visa [marriage, retirement, business] and have continued for to make their periodical runs. Tiring and inconvenient - but it's practiced big-time by a number of old-hands with families, employment, etc.

I recently secured a permanent resident visa in Hong Kong. 80% of my assets are there. It's less than 3 hours by plane from Bangkok. A bit shorter from Chiang Mai, I heard Dragon Air is soon going to resume flights to Chiang Mai but it's just a rumour so far.

Honestly I feel much more safe in Hong Kong. Thailand will be my week end / holiday destination. According to the political and visa situation I will spend more or less time in Thailand but I'm very happy that I secured my Hong Kong base.

The decision has negative consequence too. A family friend recently offered to sell a very nice piece of land by the sea at a very good price, we had to decline the offer as we won't invest any more money in Thailand as long as the country is not more foreign investment friendly. We are now instead looking for a place on the east coats of Hong Kong. It's not as nice as Thailand but it will be ours, with no small prints.

If you're only pinpointing the retirement or marriage visas, still wouldn't be a great problem - inconvenient, yes.

One still has the option of the general 60-day [and 1 month extension] visa, as well as the 6-month deal [2-month checks]. Technically, these don't fall under the non-imm "O" or non-imm "B".

Saving grace would be those that reside near a border point.

Even today, there are scores of long-timer residents that won't play the game of securing the long-term visa [marriage, retirement, business] and have continued for to make their periodical runs. Tiring and inconvenient - but it's practiced big-time by a number of old-hands with families, employment, etc.

How do they avoid the "Red stamp' issue?

If you're only pinpointing the retirement or marriage visas, still wouldn't be a great problem - inconvenient, yes.

One still has the option of the general 60-day [and 1 month extension] visa, as well as the 6-month deal [2-month checks]. Technically, these don't fall under the non-imm "O" or non-imm "B".

Saving grace would be those that reside near a border point.

Even today, there are scores of long-timer residents that won't play the game of securing the long-term visa [marriage, retirement, business] and have continued for to make their periodical runs. Tiring and inconvenient - but it's practiced big-time by a number of old-hands with families, employment, etc.

How do they avoid the "Red stamp' issue?

I believe that red stamp is just a passing fancy.....anyway, it's randomly enforced.

Just stay out for a couple extra days.

If you're only pinpointing the retirement or marriage visas, still wouldn't be a great problem - inconvenient, yes.

One still has the option of the general 60-day [and 1 month extension] visa, as well as the 6-month deal [2-month checks]. Technically, these don't fall under the non-imm "O" or non-imm "B".

Saving grace would be those that reside near a border point.

Even today, there are scores of long-timer residents that won't play the game of securing the long-term visa [marriage, retirement, business] and have continued for to make their periodical runs. Tiring and inconvenient - but it's practiced big-time by a number of old-hands with families, employment, etc.

How do they avoid the "Red stamp' issue?

I believe that red stamp is just a passing fancy.....anyway, it's randomly enforced.

Just stay out for a couple extra days.

I think, zzaa, you are not getting in spirit of the thread.

Forget about alternatives and loopholes. What if you could get no type of visa at all?

If the situation arose as 'rakers describes it there would be a lot of cheap real estate on the market for sure.

I think, zzaa, you are not getting in spirit of the thread.

Forget about alternatives and loopholes. What if you could get no type of visa at all?

This is more the intention. Visa blacklist.

We will further assume that if you have a family they are fully supportive.

Edited February 4, 201214 yr by necronx99

Fourth option: free up more assets from abroad to get the investment visa?

I think, zzaa, you are not getting in spirit of the thread.

Forget about alternatives and loopholes. What if you could get no type of visa at all?

False passport? The options are limitless but they get more expensive when getting more creative.

Switch to some other sort of visa, probably travel slightly-more to satisfy whatever rules applied, and await the arrival of a new more-sensible government, while my family continue to occupy the family-home full-time. No Biggie !

In the event of a violent revolution, throwing-out Thai-nationals with any family-connection to other countries, install other more-distant family-members in the house, and move to Malaysia pro-tem.

Return to country-of-origin, not in a million years !

I think, zzaa, you are not getting in spirit of the thread.

Forget about alternatives and loopholes. What if you could get no type of visa at all?

This is more the intention. Visa blacklist.

We will further assume that if you have a family they are fully supportive.

If that's the case, you need to be much more specific towards your OP pose.

There is always an education visa. If I could not renew my long-term one, I would start studying Thai again and would have a visa and better Thai to show for it. That sounds pretty good to me.

There is always an education visa. If I could not renew my long-term one, I would start studying Thai again and would have a visa and better Thai to show for it. That sounds pretty good to me.

Yeah, that EDv is quite the proverbial loophole.

I think the poll idea is good but some important options missing. The ED visa is one as already mentioned but also selling up and moving to another country, not the home country and not an Asian country (my choice).

Go and have a sex change and become some rich Thai guy`s bitch.

Has anyone considered incarserating themself in a room and living out the rest of their life in computerland whilst recieving food and beer from an inner circle of friends ?

Has anyone considered incarserating themself in a room and living out the rest of their life in computerland whilst recieving food and beer from an inner circle of friends ?

Who needs friends when there's facebook?

Has anyone considered incarserating themself in a room and living out the rest of their life in computerland whilst recieving food and beer from an inner circle of friends ?

By which you mean making no changes at all?

Has anyone considered incarserating themself in a room and living out the rest of their life in computerland whilst recieving food and beer from an inner circle of friends ?

By which you mean making no changes at all?

Well , the friends bit would be an improvement .