Iran, Israel Play Blame Game Over Bangkok Blasts

[zydeco]

Although i do not believe that the Israeli's had anything to do with this. I am in no doubt that they would not hesitate if it was going to benefit them in any way. Who remembers the Rainbow Warrior incident where members of the Mossad blew up a ship in New Zealand, a friendly nation if there ever was. They just went in and set a bomb without a bloody care in the world, killing one innocent crew member.

Thought that was the French, wasn't it?

[Ulysses G.]

Although i do not believe that the Israeli's had anything to do with this. I am in no doubt that they would not hesitate if it was going to benefit them in any way. Who remembers the Rainbow Warrior incident where members of the Mossad blew up a ship in New Zealand, a friendly nation if there ever was. They just went in and set a bomb without a bloody care in the world, killing one innocent crew member.

Thought that was the French, wasn't it?

It was the French - another attempt to smear Israel with a ridiculous conspiracy theory that is a complete lie.

Edited February 17, 2012 by Ulysses G.

[WunMoneyBunny]

http://frontpagemag....es-documentary/

The documentary produced by the Iranian government confirms that it believes a final grand war against Islam’s enemies, which will culminate in the destruction of Israel, is not something to be avoided, but something to be sought

Thanks for posting this reference. A very interesting documentary.

[WunMoneyBunny]

Suspects meant to kill Israeli envoys, says Thai official

The Nation

Meanwhile, Foreign Minister Surapong Towichukchaikul yesterday said Thai authorities have not described Tuesday's incident as an act of terrorism. But he urged terrorist groups not to include Thailand in their plots.

"I would like to ask people who think of plots harmful to Thailand to stop them. And I ask terrorists not to use Thailand as their base," he said.

-- The Nation 2012-02-16

Later, an official urged any potential terrorists to not forget the Thai

immigration regulations. "We are aware that Thailand is a very attractive

country to foreigners, so it might be difficult, even for terrorists, to avoid

being drawn into our lovely country. In addition, the terrorists might find

that their organisations have obliged them to ignore the Foreign Minister's appeals to not use Thailand as a base. If that is the case, may we remind each operative to respect our immigration regulations. Should they be here for more than 90 days, they are required by law, to complete a 90-day report & submit it to the nearest immigration office. If we subsequently need to contact them urgently, this information will be of great value in helping to locate them. Please understand that these regulations exist for your benefit as well as ours."

The official continued with his explanation. "Should an accidental

explosion occur like the most recent one where an Iranian immigrant

tragically lost his legs, we will need to immediately contact his companions

to advise them to collect his shoes, as he no longer needs them. Without

the 90-day report, this otherwise simple procedure will become a problem

for the authorities."

Edited February 17, 2012 by WunMoneyBunny

[MikeOboe57]

The Iranian authorities could easily clear their name by arresting the female sidekick of those 3 stooges on "terrorism charges" - which of course they won't.

[maidu]

Iran is like a group of guys who crash a party. They decide on a a dare to drop bricks through the skylight of the main room. Yet, when they get on the roof, they slip and break through the skylight and injure themselves, falling on the floor. When police come along to interrogate, the party crashers try to blame the rukus on the contractors who built the skylight.

[airconsult]

And, as if to lend credence to my observation of Israeli motives, a former Mossad official named Mickey Segal told AFP ". . . the attacks would definitely strengthen Israel's hand in the diplomatic offensive against Iran."

"All these things help the strategic environment which is building against Iran as a terror-supporting state," said Segal.

"Obviously if you catch a person with an Iranian passport, it greatly helps the Israeli-Western narrative against Iran."

Well, well . . .

Well by that same logic 9/11 did wonders for the Israeli-western narrative against Islamic extremism. I can't believe you tinfoil hatters haven't explored the possibility that Iran wanted the terrorists to mess up because it actually wants to be attacked in order to fulfill the Shiite messianic doomsday prophecy. But that would be just silly wouldn't it?

Thankyou - I was just wondering myself how they could still think that they were working for mossad, when one (the woman who rented the house) has already made it to Tehran, and another had a flight booked from KUL.

Of course, if I was a mossad operative who just had a bombing accident, the first place I would flee to is Tehran....

Edited February 17, 2012 by airconsult

[SKguy]

An awful lot of people seem to be jumping the gun. With Thai politicians, it's par for the course; but the Americans should know better - but then, of course, we have the devil in Iran, an easy and obvious target, particularly where the Israelis are concerned.

Such incompetence as has been witnessed in the conduct of the bombings in India, Georgia, and here, can only be the work of an extremely amateur organisation. Or of an extremely professional one with its own separate agenda, employing amateurs. Hezbollah? Of course. Iran? Quite possibly. And then there is Israel itself . . .

A country that should have long ago been put in its place, Israel continues to be as much a menace to Middle East peace as Iran, Hezbollah, or any other country in the region. And so long as US presidential elections continue to be dictated by appeasement of the Jewish lobby, among others, nothing much is likely to change.

With the incidents over recent years directly attributable to the Israelis - ranging from bombing civilian targets, to assassinations carried out under cover of false passports [something else that seems to have conveniently found its way under the carpet] - Israel is as much a rogue nation as any other in the Middle East . . . but one that is all too well-armed, including nuclear capability; one that has, to date, managed to convince the west - at least, the US - that it's the innocent party, doing nothing more than defending its rights - whilst trampling over those of any that stand in its way; and one that is quite capable of setting events in motion that can then be blamed on another rogue nation.

What a thoroughly biased and one-sided view of the Middle East. Israel has every right to protect her citizens from the actions of those countries or individuals that do not even recognize its right to exist. Is that what you interpret as “trampling over the rights of any that stand in its way”?

I don't recall Israel ever having threatened to use against any country, the nuclear capability you state it possesses.

Yes, there is, as you say, the devil in Iran……the entire world, not just Israel, will be safer as a result of Iran being prevented from obtaining nuclear weapons. Apart from any other consideration, the Iranian regime has a particularly atrocious record on human rights.

The regime in Tehran is, for good reason, hated by the majority of Iranians who voted against it in the fixed election. The international community has very good reason to oppose the nuclear arming of an obviously unstable and terrorising regime that has even denied the Holocaust ever took place.

You conveniently fail to mention the continual rocket attacks, emanating from Gaza, deliberately targeting civilians in Israel. When Israel rightly retaliates, every possible effort is made to avoid civilian casualties, despite Hamas deliberately placing children in harms way.

No country should reasonably be expected to sit idly by whilst its citizens are being threatened by those whose open intention is to annihilate them. Israel is the only stable democracy in the region and the world is a much better place for that.

[Morch]

And, as if to lend credence to my observation of Israeli motives, a former Mossad official named Mickey Segal told AFP ". . . the attacks would definitely strengthen Israel's hand in the diplomatic offensive against Iran."

"All these things help the strategic environment which is building against Iran as a terror-supporting state," said Segal.

"Obviously if you catch a person with an Iranian passport, it greatly helps the Israeli-Western narrative against Iran."

Well, well . . .

Let's put the shoe on the other foot. Just what do you think the reaction would be if it were Israelis instead of Iranians that carried out this little escapade?

Granted it's not likely to happen though as the Mossad usually don't make such blunders and blow themselves up.

Mossad agents had their fair share of bungled operations over the years.Lack of statistics makes it a little hard to compare with similar services, but they are certainly not omnipotent.

That said, I'm having trouble why some people find it hard to believe these guys had an accident.

James Bond is mostly fiction, agents can panic, make wrong decisions under stress - same goes for terrorists (or assassins, whatever...not getting into this one :-)).

[metisdead]

Off topic posts have been removed. Conspiracy posts have been removed.

Edited February 18, 2012 by metisdead

[CqK]

An awful lot of people seem to be jumping the gun. With Thai politicians, it's par for the course; but the Americans should know better - but then, of course, we have the devil in Iran, an easy and obvious target, particularly where the Israelis are concerned.

Such incompetence as has been witnessed in the conduct of the bombings in India, Georgia, and here, can only be the work of an extremely amateur organisation. Or of an extremely professional one with its own separate agenda, employing amateurs. Hezbollah? Of course. Iran? Quite possibly. And then there is Israel itself . . .

A country that should have long ago been put in its place, Israel continues to be as much a menace to Middle East peace as Iran, Hezbollah, or any other country in the region. And so long as US presidential elections continue to be dictated by appeasement of the Jewish lobby, among others, nothing much is likely to change.

With the incidents over recent years directly attributable to the Israelis - ranging from bombing civilian targets, to assassinations carried out under cover of false passports [something else that seems to have conveniently found its way under the carpet] - Israel is as much a rogue nation as any other in the Middle East . . . but one that is all too well-armed, including nuclear capability; one that has, to date, managed to convince the west - at least, the US - that it's the innocent party, doing nothing more than defending its rights - whilst trampling over those of any that stand in its way; and one that is quite capable of setting events in motion that can then be blamed on another rogue nation.

What a thoroughly biased and one-sided view of the Middle East. Israel has every right to protect her citizens from the actions of those countries or individuals that do not even recognize its right to exist. Is that what you interpret as “trampling over the rights of any that stand in its way”?

I don't recall Israel ever having threatened to use against any country, the nuclear capability you state it possesses.

Yes, there is, as you say, the devil in Iran……the entire world, not just Israel, will be safer as a result of Iran being prevented from obtaining nuclear weapons. Apart from any other consideration, the Iranian regime has a particularly atrocious record on human rights.

The regime in Tehran is, for good reason, hated by the majority of Iranians who voted against it in the fixed election. The international community has very good reason to oppose the nuclear arming of an obviously unstable and terrorising regime that has even denied the Holocaust ever took place.

You conveniently fail to mention the continual rocket attacks, emanating from Gaza, deliberately targeting civilians in Israel. When Israel rightly retaliates, every possible effort is made to avoid civilian casualties, despite Hamas deliberately placing children in harms way.

No country should reasonably be expected to sit idly by whilst its citizens are being threatened by those whose open intention is to annihilate them. Israel is the only stable democracy in the region and the world is a much better place for that.

Speaking of thoroughly biased with a one-sided view of the Middle East . . .

[Ulysses G.]

SKguy certainly has a point.

[SKguy]

CqK, perhaps you could explain what I wrote which you apparently do not consider to be factual?

[Markaew]

Iranian badly injured in bombing stripped of residence status

THE NATION

BANGKOK: -- An Iranian man arrested in connection with Tuesday's blasts in Bangkok has been stripped of Thai residence status, Immigration Police chief Pol Lt-General Wibool Bangthamai said yesterday.

Saeib Morabi, who lost his legs in the incident, is being treated at Police General Hospital.

Police investigators visited him yesterday and, when evidence is available, will likely charge him with attempted murder, attempted murder of policemen on duty, possessing explosives and firearms without permission, and causing damage through explosions, a police source said.

A second suspect in police custody, Mohammad Hazai, 42, arrested at Suvarnabhumi Airport late on Tuesday, has not been charged with any offence.

Israel's ambassador to Thailand, Yitzhak Shoham, said Morabi was connected to a terror network behind recent bombing incidents in India and Georgia, relying partly on explosives of the kind found in the rented house in Bangkok.

Israeli authorities, through a Bangkok-based mission, are seeking details of the bomb-assembly system used with the magnetic explosives found in the home rented by the three suspects, said Bangkok police chief Pol Lt-General Winai Thongsong.

Three US Embassy officials were present at the rented house in Soi Pridi Banomyong 36 off Sukhumvit 71 Road, and had 30-minute talks with Thai police personnel.

According to police sources, two improvised bombs found at the house were in the form of portable radios, stuffed with C-4 explosives. Hand grenades with the safety lever removed were inserted in the radio units to be used as the detonator.

Small metal balls were also put in the units intended as shrapnel. There were six flat round metal plates with a diameter of 2 centimetres attached beneath the radio bomb units, each weighing about 2 kilograms.

Contrary to media reports that Morabi used two hand grenades while on the run, police sources said he used two radio bomb units, out of a stock of five. One went off in the first accidental explosion in the rented house, two were used by him and two others were found in the house.

The radio bombs went off five seconds after their grenades were activated. They had a blast radius of about 40 metres and kill radius of about 3-5 metres, the sources added.

-- The Nation 2012-02-16

Gee i have been here for 21 years and can not get Thai residency. I guess you have to be a terrorist to get it.

Clearly you are not corrupt or dishonest enough to be considered long term. You just don't fit in.

Edited February 19, 2012 by Markaew