Thailand Is Caught In The Midst Of A Global Power Play

[GentlemanJim]

After 2,500 years of planning, it should be a pretty good plan................

Israel. Circa 1948.

Ah Jingthing, you couldn't resist it

Well I guarantee I can pull out posts from your history where you are claiming some 2000 year old right to the land of Israel, so you can't have your cake and eat it Jingthing, and the current map looks a little different to Israel circa 1948 doesn't it?

Yes after Israel survived 3 attempts to wipe it out it gained more land than it originally agreed to settle for, not it's fault but the fault of a 1400 year old vendetta the name of which we can scarcely mention these days.

P.S I'm waiting for the descendants of Queen Boudicca to even the scores with Rome too.

We did that by embarrassing them in world war 2 Wasn't much 'Roman' in them then!

[manarak]

As a neutral nation, Thailand can't please either the Iranians or the Israelis in this dangerous game. Every step ahead should be taken with extra caution to avoid resentment from both parties. We have practically nothing to gain from this growing complication in global geo-politics.

The world may now be on the brink of World War III.

Has someone put hallucinogen substances in the water dispenser at The Nations's offices?

First the Money Laundering Blacklist, now this. Or vice-versa, doesn't matter.

"World war III" will be over before it even has a chance to begin.

And why does The Nation think the global players will care at all about what Thailand does? Laughable.

Find the terrorists and put them to death quickly, case closed, next.

Edited February 17, 2012 by manarak

[BigJohnnyBKK]

Iran is a beautiful country and has a living standard far superior to broke America in many ways. Leave it alone, it is not aggressive and anyone who thinks so needs their heads read. They wish to be left alone so why try to start a war? Simple - US needs another war to keep feeding the corrupt <deleted> running it.

I dont like this post ......I love it. There should be a love button. lol

Im so glad not everyone is sleeping and knows the real ways things work.

Once you know the truth you see the lies everywhere.

As an American I believe there may well be some truth to this, but it's not totally black and white.

Iran isn't "a beautiful country" from the POV of its citizens who aren't fundamentalist Muslims of the same beliefs as the mullahs that run the place, nor in its conduct of foreign policy.

I'm not saying this (or anything) justifies armed intervention, but your position would be more credible if it weren't unrealistically one-sided.

[BigJohnnyBKK]

Iran has different power factions, and Ahmadinejad is actually a moderate in the Iranian political context. Absolutely, the world will be a more dangerous place with a nuclear Iran. It may be inevitable though. Anyone who thinks sanctions or negotiations will stop them is very naive. The only things that might stop them are either internal revolution regime change or less reliably an attack on their nuclear facilities by Israel. The attack option is late and has a high chance of not even working.

Full-scale invasion is of course another option, just not one likely to be supported by the US public without a more direct threat - which could of course be manufactured, but not IMO likely under the current administration.

Of course the public opposition to just moving in and taking over Iran is split between "we can't afford it" and "why bother, who cares" rather than much moral opposition.

I think full-on Israeli strikes are pretty likely though, and recent events could be the result of efforts to develop more international support - or at least forbearance - for that.

[Publicus]

No, they need nukes for "minor symbolic acts" , to use Deputy-PM Chalerm's wonderful new phrase !

Meanwhile Thailand's policy of being friends with all sides is shown by the recent discoveries of Lebanese bomb-making materials, and apparently-Iranian bombers, to not work in keeping the country safe from extremists. The traditional playing-off of sides against-on-another has failed this time.

Perhaps time to stand up instead for moderation where possible, but to join the global stand against extremist bombers, where necessary ?

Thailand tried to keep the peace in the former LOS by recognizing a Palestine state but as with almost everything Thailand tries in the international arena, Thailand has flopped again. Iran and its direct agents Hezbollah have little or no respect of Thailand as the events of the past month clearly have shown. Thailand recognizing Palestine has not stopped Iranians making, storing and exploding bombs around Bangkok, all the while looking for Jewish people and places to attack..

If Thailand were a normal country it would be actively opposing terrorism instead of complaining about embassy websites that are doing their proper duty.

[GentlemanJim]

No, they need nukes for "minor symbolic acts" , to use Deputy-PM Chalerm's wonderful new phrase !

Meanwhile Thailand's policy of being friends with all sides is shown by the recent discoveries of Lebanese bomb-making materials, and apparently-Iranian bombers, to not work in keeping the country safe from extremists. The traditional playing-off of sides against-on-another has failed this time.

Perhaps time to stand up instead for moderation where possible, but to join the global stand against extremist bombers, where necessary ?

Thailand tried to keep the peace in the former LOS by recognizing a Palestine state but as with almost everything Thailand tries in the international arena, Thailand has flopped again. Iran and its direct agents Hezbollah have little or no respect of Thailand as the events of the past month clearly have shown. Thailand recognizing Palestine has not stopped Iranians making, storing and exploding bombs around Bangkok, all the while looking for Jewish people and places to attack..

If Thailand were a normal country it would be actively opposing terrorism instead of complaining about embassy websites that are doing their proper duty.

Seems like you have the whole thing sussed. Why not contact the BiB

[Publicus]

No, they need nukes for "minor symbolic acts" , to use Deputy-PM Chalerm's wonderful new phrase !

Meanwhile Thailand's policy of being friends with all sides is shown by the recent discoveries of Lebanese bomb-making materials, and apparently-Iranian bombers, to not work in keeping the country safe from extremists. The traditional playing-off of sides against-on-another has failed this time.

Perhaps time to stand up instead for moderation where possible, but to join the global stand against extremist bombers, where necessary ?

Thailand tried to keep the peace in the former LOS by recognizing a Palestine state but as with almost everything Thailand tries in the international arena, Thailand has flopped again. Iran and its direct agents Hezbollah have little or no respect of Thailand as the events of the past month clearly have shown. Thailand recognizing Palestine has not stopped Iranians making, storing and exploding bombs around Bangkok, all the while looking for Jewish people and places to attack..

If Thailand were a normal country it would be actively opposing terrorism instead of complaining about embassy websites that are doing their proper duty.

Seems like you have the whole thing sussed. Why not contact the BiB

The BiB drink more and faster than I do and count more money faster than any bank machine I've seen.

[geriatrickid]

After 2,500 years of planning, it should be a pretty good plan................

Israel. Circa 1948.

Ah Jingthing, you couldn't resist it

Well I guarantee I can pull out posts from your history where you are claiming some 2000 year old right to the land of Israel, so you can't have your cake and eat it Jingthing, and the current map looks a little different to Israel circa 1948 doesn't it?

Correct.The biblical kingdom of Israel had more territory. Are you suggesting that we go back to that?

[geriatrickid]

The US are only after one goal, control of major global assets. It is a self appointed police force which propagates lies and deliberate misinformation and now having just asked Belgium operation SWIFT to collapse the payment system to Iran for oil, they are trying to force Iran to fire the first shot. If Iran however, simply refuses sales of oil to US influenced countries for a month and accepts any currency - the US will eat humble pie. Iran is a beautiful country and has a living standard far superior to broke America in many ways. Leave it alone, it is not aggressive and anyone who thinks so needs their heads read. They wish to be left alone so why try to start a war? Simple - US needs another war to keep feeding the corrupt <deleted> running it.

I dont like this post ......I love it. There should be a love button. lol

Im so glad not everyone is sleeping and knows the real ways things work.

Once you know the truth you see the lies everywhere.

Or maybe the power was cut to the trailer park and they can't find their special aluminum foil cap and pie tin hat needed to fully absorb the special message?

[geriatrickid]

Please be aware that there is an Iranian opposition terrorist group called the MKO of whom it has been alleged have been working with Mossad to help eliminate Iranian Nuclear scientists. So it doesn't mean that because they are Iranian they must be working for the Iranian government.

Right. So when should we expect iran to send back the woman that fled back to Tehran?

[GentlemanJim]

Ah Jingthing, you couldn't resist it

Well I guarantee I can pull out posts from your history where you are claiming some 2000 year old right to the land of Israel, so you can't have your cake and eat it Jingthing, and the current map looks a little different to Israel circa 1948 doesn't it?

Correct.The biblical kingdom of Israel had more territory. Are you suggesting that we go back to that?

No! If you would have read the thread you would see I was replying to Jingthing's comment re my post below!

Israel have a serious 2500 year old score to settle with the Persians and I don't think it will be that easy to stop them. Their mind is made up, they are just trying to garner as much support as possible before the inevitable takes place. Maybe this is what the Mayans were talking about!

Save your money, if we are not all bombed back to the stone age there could be some cheap land and property deals by the end of the year.

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Right. So when should we expect iran to send back the woman that fled back to Tehran?

I imagine she is already in the Tehran Hilton attached to some electrodes and is singing like a canary about the MKO. Her prognosis is not good and sadly I doubt that even now she is fit for a return flight to Tehran.

[Publicus]

This whole struggle is about the US trying to prop up its debt ridden economy by convincing the world that they still need to use the US dollar. Once the world starts to think otherwise then all that printing by fiat becomes even more worthless. One of the main reasons why the Iranians are considered a threat is because of their willingness to trade oil for gold or some other form of currency. This is one of the principle reasons why Iraq was attacked (Saddam decided to trade Iraqi oil for Euros), Libya (Gaddafi was proposing to trade his oil for Gold). It is almost pointless reading the Western media these days, they just seem to be a propaganda arm for Western policy. If we want a more peaceful world then we need to have a balance of power, not a world where the US is the dominant power trying to tell everyone what to do. The Iranians will never use a nuclear weapon as it would mean total obliteration for them, a nuclear weapon would also act as a deter-ant against US and Israeli aggression-- after all Iran has not started a war in 400 years, how many have the US started?

Iran is not North Korea. Iran and North Korea however did begin serious nuclear programs after Sept 11, 2001 and Washington's direct response to the al Qaeda attacks - regime change in Afghanistan. The regime change that occurred in Iraq after 9/11 was not connected to the attacks against the United States but rather to further change the political and economics equation in the ME. North Korea remains isolated but not facing war because of the Six-Party grouping of Washington, Tokyo, Seoul, Beijing, and Moscow focusing on Pyongyang. North Korea knows it never will be attacked because of its proximity to these settled advanced countries and to China and its hugely developing economy. While North Korea has a huge army massed at the 38th parallel, the DPRK is not announcing any God-inspired intentiion to destroy any of its neighboring or regional nation states due to some mandate of heaven. The only mandate Pyongyang faces is the one from Beijing to focus on stability in the transition of leadership and afterward.

Iran, however, IS another matter. Tel Aviv, Riyadh, the Gulf States as well as Washington and the EU countries can feel the range and reach of the highly and rapidly developing, if nascent, nuclear weapons capability of Iran. Using the long standing sanctions and now the new oil embargo, China's only interest in Iran is to bleed discount prices out of it. As to Russia, when it comes to Iran Russia is big talk and UNSC vetoes but nothing more. Russia would not act to protect or revenge the nuclear facility it is construcing with Iran. Neither the PRC nor Russia is a major power in central Asia so neither will risk or engage in a war that is designed to produce regime change in Iran. Turkey would lose little or nothing and likely would seem bigger or even mightier were regime change to occur in Iran, which would cause Iran to experience a period of self-occupied transition and inward focus.

Directly because of 9/11 regime change occurred in Afghanistan. Indirectly connected to 9/11 and combined with other factors that threatened Middle East stability, regime change occurred in Iraq. Presently the Arab Spring has brought regime change to several nations of the Middle East and across North Africa, almost to the Atlantic. While Iran is neither an Arab nor a Mediterranean nation, its caustic mix of religious fervor and nuclear obsessions make its nuclear ambitions an unwelcome factor to everyone in the region and in the larger world. This is true from Europe to China and to India-Pakistan. Washington, Tel Aviv and Riyadh are indeed the principal checks on the Iran regime - an axis of action, one could say. Given there is zero chance of the United States rerunning the Iraq war in Iran, U.S. and Israeli air and unconventional attacks will, at best, push Iran's weaponization date back several years. But, frankly, our air and unconventional targeting strategy will likewise prioritize damaging the regime's capacity to control its population, because unless an Arab Spring-like uprising ensues, or an acceptable regime infighter emerges victoriously with a "grand bargain" in hand, we will simply have to "rinse and repeat" at some future date.

Few have forgot or lost the spirit of Neda Agha-Soltan who fell to the ground after being shot by an Iranian government sniper. “It burned me,” Neda said before she died on camera as the world watched.

From a poem on the internet after Neda was murdered by her own government:

Oh Neda, Neda!

Breathe

Rise

Shatter the cage

Break through the bars

Don’t go, Neda

Edited February 17, 2012 by Publicus

[jbhh]

The US, in particular, is claiming that Iran is building up its nuclear capabilities, which could pose a risk to stability in the Middle East.

The only risk to stability in the middle east, and the main reason for current instability, IS the USA, and they got WMDs.

The Israelis have come out to link the Bangkok bomb incidents with those in India and Georgia recently.

I don't know about Georgia, but the attack on Mumbai in India was done in collaboration with Mossad/CIA, I find it sometimes hard to comprehend the bluntness with which politicians/governments lie.

The US government delivers 40,000 Full Automatic Firearms to the Mexican Drug Cartel and brings back truckloads of drugs, and Thailand is put on the black list for money laundering... world politics are getting so bizarre...

Is Iran a threat to anyone? From all the "players" in the middle east conflict Iran is the country that has not attacked any other country in its proximity for the longest period of time, in fact the last time they were at war, they were attacked by USA goon Saddam Hussein. You know... the guy they supported and brought to power in Irak, the guy they sold weapons to while he was mass murdering his own population... you know, the guy the USA loved until he said he would sell his Oil in Euro (in response to being given the finger when he tried to attack Kuwait), tuning him into a mad man that may possess WMDs and needs to be attacked before we can find out whether that is true or not.

If the "west", and the USA in particular, is truly interested in a stable and peaceful Middle East, they should stop to stick there noses into things that should be none of their business.

Edited February 17, 2012 by jbhh

[Publicus]

The US, in particular, is claiming that Iran is building up its nuclear capabilities, which could pose a risk to stability in the Middle East.

The only risk to stability in the middle east, and the main reason for current instability, IS the USA, and they got WMDs.

The Israelis have come out to link the Bangkok bomb incidents with those in India and Georgia recently.

I don't know about Georgia, but the attack on Mumbai in India was done in collaboration with Mossad/CIA, I find it sometimes hard to comprehend the bluntness with which politicians/governments lie.

The US government delivers 40,000 Full Automatic Firearms to the Mexican Drug Cartel and brings back truckloads of drugs, and Thailand is put on the black list for money laundering... world politics are getting so bizarre...

Is Iran is a threat to anyone? From all the "players" in the middle east conflict Iran is the country that has not attacked any other country in its proximity for the longest period of time, in fact the last time they were at war, they were attacked by USA goon Saddam Hussein.

If the "west", and the USA in particular, is truly interested in a stable and peaceful Middle East, they should stop to stick there noses into things that should be none of their business.

Ahmadinejad last week said HIV and AIDS are a Western plot to "enfeeble" the developing world and to increase the market for US pharmaceuticals. This is the same guy who denies the Holocaust and vows before Allah to annnihilate Israel and all the rest of we infidels and apostates. etc etc etc.

Edited February 17, 2012 by Publicus

[jbhh]

Ahmadinejad last week said HIV and AIDS are a Western plot to "enfeeble" the developing world and to increase the market for US pharmaceuticals. This is the same guy who denies the Holocaust and vows before Allah to annnihilate Israel and all the rest of we infidels and apostates. etc etc etc.

Colin Powell said the USA has undeniable proof that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction. Which it didn't... people can say a lot, it's something else to act upon it.

By the way, taking time into account, Jews had way less arguments to get Israel, than American Indians have to get their country back...

Edited February 17, 2012 by jbhh

[maiphedmaiaroi]

The US are only after one goal, control of major global assets. It is a self appointed police force which propagates lies and deliberate misinformation and now having just asked Belgium operation SWIFT to collapse the payment system to Iran for oil, they are trying to force Iran to fire the first shot. If Iran however, simply refuses sales of oil to US influenced countries for a month and accepts any currency - the US will eat humble pie. Iran is a beautiful country and has a living standard far superior to broke America in many ways. Leave it alone, it is not aggressive and anyone who thinks so needs their heads read. They wish to be left alone so why try to start a war? Simple - US needs another war to keep feeding the corrupt <deleted> running it.

I dont like this post ......I love it. There should be a love button. lol

Im so glad not everyone is sleeping and knows the real ways things work.

Once you know the truth you see the lies everywhere.

Or maybe the power was cut to the trailer park and they can't find their special aluminum foil cap and pie tin hat needed to fully absorb the special message?

Its easy to try and make people look stupid if your so conditioned to your way of believing by dismissing everything as wacko conspiracy theories that arent actually wacko at all . Maybe you need to take of your war obsessed glasses off and start to actually see your being taken for a BIG ride.

If isreal/usa go to war with iran after a few years the truth will of course come out again just like it has before. Which will be a war based on a lie. The truth is already here to see. Its easy to see if you open your mind a little.

Best to know the truth b4 it happens not after as you wont be looking so silly as you will be now.

[Jingthing]

Ahmadinejad last week said HIV and AIDS are a Western plot to "enfeeble" the developing world and to increase the market for US pharmaceuticals. This is the same guy who denies the Holocaust and vows before Allah to annnihilate Israel and all the rest of we infidels and apostates. etc etc etc.

Colin Powell said the USA has undeniable proof that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction. Which it didn't... people can say a lot, it's something else to act upon it.

By the way, taking time into account, Jews had way less arguments to get Israel, than American Indians have to get their country back...

Iraq is not Iran. American Indians are not Palestinian Arabs. Powell is not Hillary Clinton. Bush is not Obama.

Next ...

[animatic]

Think about a Iranian dirty bomb that doesn't make it to Israel.

It would put radioactivity over much of the world oil supply.

As that would make oil company staff run for the hills hoping for survival,

the pumps run dry in months.

As that happens the world economy collapses, since it is still oil driven.

The time lag to get crews safely back in to pump oil would be too long,

and VERY expensive.

Iran with nukes or even partial nukes is a recipe for world economic collapse.

Not just like the current banking crisis recession, but 100 times as bad.

Forget the Chinese and India's side deals, sanctions or not.

If the above happens NO ONE GETS OUT OK.

So we have hardcore religious zealots trying for decades to get

enough power to throw their weight around, and rule the middle east,

who think even other Muslims not in their sect are apostates, and

all others infidels not worthy of existence if it benefits their sect,

and are willing to attack anyone they disklike in any other country they chose,

regardless of collateral damage to innocent bystanders.

And then they get the ability to rocket nukes or dirty bombs across the whole region.

Let's not forget Irans 7 year war against fellow muslims, Iraq.

Fought to a draw after 100's of thousands died,

but USA whipped that same Iraq in a week.

And internal pressure on the Iran government because of the

very young median age of the internet media informed populace,

means they have huge internal pressure to look powerful against their

stated enemies or they can fall because of massive internal disent.

A recipe for biblical levels of destruction.

Your concerns about oil are wrong. If Iran stopped producing oil tomorrow, the worlds other producers could easily make up the shortfall. Prices would be higher, but that is all. The problem is that Iran is producing oil and it doesn't want the US dollar anymore, and why would it. If Iran continues to flourish and world super powers buy its oil in currencies other than the dollar (China, India, Russia) then it will be the US economy in tatters (sorry I mean in even more tatters than it already is!).

As regards Irans 7 year war with Iraq, as has already been pointed out you are grossly misguided. Iraq was the aggressor that went on the offensive, sponsored by the USA. It was Iraqs 7 year war with Iran.

And what of the yellow cake uranium that was removed from Iraq and transported to Canada?

http://www.msnbc.msn...s-uranium-iraq/

And what of the chemical and biological weapon residues that are now poisoning Iraqis?

http://www.iraqwatch...biological.html

You conveniently neglect the fact that Iraq used poisonous gas in its war with Iran.

Iran is proceeding with the development of a nuclear weapon courtesy of Pakistan, amd with the indirect assistance of China and Russia.

And where did all the Chemical and Biological residues come from? Who supplied the gas that Iraq used to poison the Kurds and Iranians? That is the fact that we seem to have conveniently neglected.

As for your last sentence the IAEA and CIA say that it is not, so best you take your superior intel to the NSA.

Yellowcake is produced by all countries in which uranium ore is mined, it is the first step in preparing material for civilian nuclear power, which is what they have always said they are doing.

If you read clearly you see

1 ) it's not necessarily Iranian oil fields I was talking about.

2 ) the last oil price spike in the last year of Bush the lessers term

caused a world wide recession we are not even partly through with.

Irradiating a major oil producing nations fields and of course it's citizens

would be catastrophic for oil prices.

3 ) The Iraq Iran war went both ways. Don't fool yourself.

Even if Iraq attacked first, they both could have backed off,

but they BOTH dragged it on 7 years. Hundreds of years

of sectarian antagonisms that put the Irish to shame.

Your view is too narrow.

Edited February 17, 2012 by animatic

[Jingthing]

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I don't know about Georgia, but the attack on Mumbai in India was done in collaboration with Mossad/CIA, I find it sometimes hard to comprehend the bluntness with which politicians/governments lie.

...

I reckon the seriously injured Israeli diplomat in India is going to be upset to learn about that from a tin foil hat website. Yes, I know, the blood was ketchup. Edited February 17, 2012 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

Ahmadinejad last week said HIV and AIDS are a Western plot to "enfeeble" the developing world and to increase the market for US pharmaceuticals. This is the same guy who denies the Holocaust and vows before Allah to annnihilate Israel and all the rest of we infidels and apostates. etc etc etc.

Colin Powell said the USA has undeniable proof that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction. Which it didn't... people can say a lot, it's something else to act upon it.

By the way, taking time into account, Jews had way less arguments to get Israel, than American Indians have to get their country back...

Iraq is not Iran. American Indians are not Palestinian Arabs. Powell is not Hillary Clinton. Bush is not Obama.

Next ...

And Ahmadinejad is not Hitler.

Next...

We can agree on that. But he is the most prominent holocaust denying antisemite in the world today who has repeatedly threatened to destroy Israel.

[animatic]

Let's not forget Irans 7 year war against fellow muslims, Iraq.

Fought to a draw after 100's of thousands died,

but USA whipped that same Iraq in a week.

And who started that one Animatic?

Yea right Iraq under Sadam with the support and supply of the great USA who finished it off by shooting down an Iranian civilian aircraft as has already been noted.

Saddam of course, thinking he had total backing forever.

He didn't.

Reagan was dottering and Bush the elder was making

judgment calls most Americans didn't agree with at the time.

The Bush presidencies have together been a shambles for the middle east.

I never voted for any of them.

The Iranian passenger plane was a mistaken identity case.

Few think it was actually intentionally shot down.

[Macmundi]

Do you want Thailand to handle things on its own? From all the incompetent acts, nothing can be accomplished. People in Thailand are too materialistic. what else do they care? Sovereignty? human rights? best yet, family defense. You can buy them all out in Thailand. The terrorists got the upper hand. They have the money to throw around. You lose.

[jbhh]

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I don't know about Georgia, but the attack on Mumbai in India was done in collaboration with Mossad/CIA, I find it sometimes hard to comprehend the bluntness with which politicians/governments lie.

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I reckon the seriously injured Israeli diplomat in India is going to be upset to learn about that from a tin foil hat website. Yes, I know, the blood was ketchup.

I quote one article I found for you in less than 2 minutes of research:

"David Headley is a Chicago-based Pakistani American, who conspired with Lashkar-e-Taiba to launch the 2008 Mumbai attacks. Since his arrest he has been closely guarded by the US government and access to him restricted. Despite pleading guilty he has not been extradited to India, instead he has been cooperating with the U.S. authorities with matters related to terrorism.

Before the attacks the CIA had strong links to Headley and it is suspected that he was an agent for them. Unfreemedia reports that India’s Home Ministry officials are now investigating whether the Pakistani-American terror suspect David Coleman Headley was in fact a CIA double agent."

http://wideshut.co.u...ed-cia-and-isi/

So, the guy was involved in the attacks, and now works with the CIA, again. Ever wondered why India is giving the US the finger by buying OIL for Rupee from Iran?

have a look at the logo of the website, it may apply to you.

Edited February 17, 2012 by jbhh

[Jingthing]

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I don't know about Georgia, but the attack on Mumbai in India was done in collaboration with Mossad/CIA, I find it sometimes hard to comprehend the bluntness with which politicians/governments lie.

...

I reckon the seriously injured Israeli diplomat in India is going to be upset to learn about that from a tin foil hat website. Yes, I know, the blood was ketchup.

I quote one article I found for you in less than 2 minutes of research:

"David Headley is a Chicago-based Pakistani American, who conspired with Lashkar-e-Taiba to launch the 2008 Mumbai attacks. Since his arrest he has been closely guarded by the US government and access to him restricted. Despite pleading guilty he has not been extradited to India, instead he has been cooperating with the U.S. authorities with matters related to terrorism.

Before the attacks the CIA had strong links to Headley and it is suspected that he was an agent for them. Unfreemedia reports that India’s Home Ministry officials are now investigating whether the Pakistani-American terror suspect David Coleman Headley was in fact a CIA double agent."

http://wideshut.co.u...ed-cia-and-isi/

So, the guy was involved in the attacks, and now works with the CIA, again. Ever wondered why India is giving the US the finger by buying OIL for Rupee from Iran?

have a look at the logo of the website, it may apply to you.

My apologies. I thought we were talking about CURRENT events. The Iranian attacks on Israeli diplomats in Georgia, India, and the aborted one in Thailand. Of course the one in India was in New Delhi. You were talking about that old Mumbai incident where they targeted westerners and civilian Jews. To me, that's too off topic for the current discussion about Iran.

[jbhh]

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well then you should have read the only line you quoted from me, it said VERY clearly, that I don't know about Georgia. Anyways, care to elaborate further on Mumbai? After all, Israel is now saying Iran did it... it's not off topic, as it is in the OP.

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[Jingthing]

well then you should have read the only line you quoted from me, it said VERY clearly, that I don't know about Georgia. Anyways, care to elaborate further on Mumbai? After all, Israel is now saying Iran did it...

I am interested in current events here. I explained I misread your other post. I assumed you were on the same page, CURRENT EVENTS: India, Thailand, Georgia -- Iranian attacks on Israeli diplomats. Edited February 17, 2012 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

If you don't happen to be an antisemite which I can't know, please show respect to Jews by not spouting antisemitic speech such as that Israeli policies are equivalent to Nazi Germany. I know your speech here and it is antisemtic inflammatory speech. Of course there is lots to criticize about Israel's policies and in my opinion there is lots to criticize about Palestinians policies as well. But that all can be done without the kind of hate speech you employ. That is unacceptable.

One could argue your words to be hate speech, by saying about Ahmadinejad:

"But he is the most prominent holocaust denying antisemite in the world today who has repeatedly threatened to destroy Israel."

Anyways, it your right to have the opinion of my words being hate speech, I don't see it as hate speech, but my observations and opinions. As I said, I don't have a problem with the people, but the the actions of many western government.

Here you go. I don't think you have a right to post antisemitic speech here. Racist speech isn't opinion. It is racism.

http://fra.europa.eu...ition-draft.pdf

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[Jingthing]

well then you should have read the only line you quoted from me, it said VERY clearly, that I don't know about Georgia. Anyways, care to elaborate further on Mumbai? After all, Israel is now saying Iran did it...

I am interested in current events here. I explained I misread your other post. I assumed you were on the same page, CURRENT EVENTS: India, Thailand, Georgia -- Iranian attacks on Israeli diplomats.

It is in the OP, and absolutely relevant, as Israel claims Iran did it, together with the other attacks. If they are wrong with ONE, they may be wrong all together... that's what I was pointing out, they are simply trying to pin whatever they can find on Iran to further escalate the situation.

The OP refers to the very recent incident of the Iranians attacking the Israeli diplomat, same day as Georgia. Then soon came Thailand. Same pattern. These three are directly linked. It is not about Mumbai long ago. This conversation has became strange, circular, and tedious. Time to exit.

The Israelis have come out to link the Bangkok bomb incidents with those in India and Georgia recently.

Edited February 17, 2012 by Jingthing

[Scott]

Numerous posts have been deleted. References to Nazis, death camps and other off-topic remarks as well as quotes to them have removed.

The topic is about Thailand. The sub-forum is Thailand News.

[Scott]

More off-topic, inflammatory posts have been removed.

Next move is suspension of posting ability.