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[JRinger]

Most restaurants in Thailand, most especially the smaller ones and street vendors use MSG religiously, it's call pong-shurote in Thai, or ajinomoto..

I understand that many people don't understand or care so this addition to the forum is for those who Do care about their health and that of their friends relatives and children...

http://www.rense.com/general52/msg.htm

http://www.msgtruth.org/states.htm.rense.c...neral52/msg.htm

http://www.msgtruth.org/body.htm

http://www.holisticmed.com/msg/msg-mark.txt

http://www.msgmyth.com/

[Ice Maiden]

You'd actually be suprised that there has been quite a few threads on this subject and much concern over it

[JRinger]

You'd actually be suprised that there has been quite a few threads on this subject and much concern over it 

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...right you are Ice, found the thread back on page 7. I guess there's not enough interest on the subject....

[Sheryl]

You'd actually be suprised that there has been quite a few threads on this subject and much concern over it 

...right you are Ice, found the thread back on page 7. I guess there's not enough interest on the subject....

Thailand's not half as bad as Cambodia, the Cambodians are utter addicts and pile the stuff in. They also -- no coincidence -- have a high rate of hypertension. Aside from being potentially carcinogenic, the stuff is loaded with sodium.

[meadish_sweetball]

...it also occurs naturally in your body.

I would read this Wikipedia article as well:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monosodium_glutamate

[sierra01]

It's a flavour enhancer, if you need to use it, it's time to learn to cook properly.

[solo siam]

Yes if your drinking a diet soda whilst moaning about the effects of MSG, then somethings not right. I rank MSG as dangerous as salt. At least its a naturally occuring substance, rather than 50% of the crap people eat nowadays.

[tuky]

So, in laymans terms why is it bad?

[solo siam]

same reason salt is.

[tuky]

same reason salt is.

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My wife uses it all the time. Is it worse than salt?

[JRinger]

So, in laymans terms why is it bad?

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try going back to the initial post and click on the links if you're interested in the facts or try a search in Yahoo or Google.

Salt is a different kettle of fish..,,sea salt if far healthier than iodized table salt,

as is natural brown sugar as compared to white sugar

brown rice as compared to white rice, etc,, etc., etc.

Yahoo search results for msg: 82 million sites

Google search results for msg: 28.6 million sites

Edited December 11, 2005 by JRinger

[Sheryl]

So, in laymans terms why is it bad?

Some people are sensotove to it and have reactions such as flushing and headache (in some cases severe)

It increases the sodium content in the food which is unwise especially for people with high blood pressure

there is some evidence that extensive, prolonged use may increase the risk of some cancers

[sabaijai]

No scientific study has ever been able to verify the so-called 'Chinese restaurant syndrome' (headache or numbness or neck tingling, etc) in double-blind, controlled studies. In other words a person who swears up and down that he or she manifests such symptoms after eating food containing MSG will never consistently be able to distinguish non-MSG-laden from MSG-laden food if not told beforehand which contains which.

The FDA has simply compiled a list of reported effects, not verified that they are anything real.

As to long-term effects, the results thus far are inconclusive. Some of the links above contain nothing but anecdotal information, or quotes from uncited studies. Or alleged studies that one can't seem to track down. If there are people with a MSG sensitivity, it appears they are a very small percentage of the general population.

It's no more 'synthetic' than salt, it's an extract of sugar beets, seaweed or other glutamate-rich vegetables.

For the Japanese, who have been using it in their cuisine for centuries, it's not viewed as a 'flavour enhancer' but as a separate flavour.

I harbour a suspicion that stressing over whether the food you order in a restaurant contains MSG or not, and bugging the staff to avoid using it (requests which the staff most likely promptly ignore), has got to be more harmful to your health than the stuff itself.

[JRinger]

No scientific study has ever been able to verify the so-called 'Chinese restaurant syndrome' (headache or numbness or neck tingling, etc) in double-blind, controlled studies. In other words a person who swears up and down that he or she manifests such symptoms after eating food containing MSG will never consistently be able to distinguish non-MSG-laden from MSG-laden food if not told beforehand which contains which.

The FDA has simply compiled a list of reported effects, not verified that they are anything real.

As to long-term effects, the results thus far are inconclusive. Some of the links above contain nothing but anecdotal information, or quotes from uncited studies. Or alleged studies that one can't seem to track down. If there are people with a MSG sensitivity, it appears they are a very small percentage of the general population.

It's no more 'synthetic' than salt, it's an extract of sugar beets, seaweed or other glutamate-rich vegetables.

For the Japanese, who have been using it in their cuisine for centuries, it's not viewed as a 'flavour enhancer' but as a separate flavour.

I harbour a suspicion that stressing over whether the food you order in a restaurant contains MSG or not, and bugging the staff to avoid using it (requests which the staff most likely promptly ignore), has got to be more harmful to your health than the stuff itself.

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(Monosodium glutamate is described as a Mutagen and Reproductive Effector by the Center for Disease Control in their Registry of Toxic Effects of Chemical Substances

Drugs that block the effects of MSG are being used to treat Alzheimer's disease,

more for those interested: http://www.truthinlabeling.org/

OBESITY

epidemic cited -- but no one dares stand up to the glutamate industry and mention that since 1969, researchers have known that MSG causes gross obesity

Edited December 12, 2005 by JRinger

[thejaundicedeye]

Yes, food is loaded and it gives me headaches.

"mai ow two rrowt krap"

[sabaijai]

No scientific study has ever been able to verify the so-called 'Chinese restaurant syndrome' (headache or numbness or neck tingling, etc) in double-blind, controlled studies. In other words a person who swears up and down that he or she manifests such symptoms after eating food containing MSG will never consistently be able to distinguish non-MSG-laden from MSG-laden food if not told beforehand which contains which.

The FDA has simply compiled a list of reported effects, not verified that they are anything real.

As to long-term effects, the results thus far are inconclusive. Some of the links above contain nothing but anecdotal information, or quotes from uncited studies. Or alleged studies that one can't seem to track down. If there are people with a MSG sensitivity, it appears they are a very small percentage of the general population.

It's no more 'synthetic' than salt, it's an extract of sugar beets, seaweed or other glutamate-rich vegetables.

For the Japanese, who have been using it in their cuisine for centuries, it's not viewed as a 'flavour enhancer' but as a separate flavour.

I harbour a suspicion that stressing over whether the food you order in a restaurant contains MSG or not, and bugging the staff to avoid using it (requests which the staff most likely promptly ignore), has got to be more harmful to your health than the stuff itself.

(Monosodium glutamate is described as a Mutagen and Reproductive Effector by the Center for Disease Control in their Registry of Toxic Effects of Chemical Substances

Drugs that block the effects of MSG are being used to treat Alzheimer's disease,

more for those interested: http://www.truthinlabeling.org/

OBESITY

epidemic cited -- but no one dares stand up to the glutamate industry and mention that since 1969, researchers have known that MSG causes gross obesity

Neither study bears any relation whatsoever to the point I was making, that no controlled study has been able to show that ingestion causes immediate symptoms. In fact studies show no correlation at all between reported symptoms and eating of foods to which msg has been added.

It's a natural extract just like salt and sugar, neither of which are particularly good for you either.