Thirayuth Biased Against Thaksin, Noppadon Claims

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Thirayuth biased against Thaksin, lawyer claims

THE NATION

BANGKOK: -- A lawyer for former premier Thaksin Shinawatra claims that Thammasat University sociologist Thirayuth Boonmi's criticism of the fugitive ex-PM is biased.

"Thirayuth didn't talk about the destruction of the rule of law by letting the hostile Assets Examination Committee examine him. He didn't talk about the retroactive use of the law to dissolve the political party and revoke the voting right of the party executive. Thirayuth didn't talk about the injustice caused by the 2007 Constitution, such as the Article 237 (relating to party dissolution)," Noppadon Pattama said in a statement yesterday.

"More importantly, Thirayuth omitted to talk about interference in the judicial branch's ruling in some cases and made some people feel that Thailand is one country with two standards."

Thirayuth, director of the Sanya Dharmasakti Institute for Democracy, held a press conference on Sunday to give his political analysis. He said the roots of Thai political problems were deep and caused by political centralisation, plus political and socio-economic disparity between people in urban and rural areas. He criticised both Thaksin and his opponents.

Noppadon said Thirayuth over-generalised when saying Pheu Thai Party's populist policies would lead to failure. Populism had a broad meaning and not all populist policies were bad. Many policies including the universal healthcare scheme and Small, Medium and Large Village funds, giving scholarships for students in each Tambon and One Tambon One Product scheme were successful.

He rebutted Thirayuth's view that Thaksin was just a marketing expert, not a democratic leader, saying Thaksin had won a majority of votes in three elections and was "only" toppled by a military coup.

"Concluding that Thaksin abused the grassroots to cover his share concealment and tax evasion problems and that he is never satisfied with his wealth was only academic murmuring that reflected Thirayuth's feelings and bias.

"It showed that Thirayuth has not got over the mindset of thoughts of some groups in Thai society that refuse to acknowledge the truth in society …" Noppadon said.

Meanwhile, Deputy Premier Chalerm Yoobamrung said there would not be another coup if there was no violence and there was no reason for such military intervention.

There would be no violence as long as he held his post, he said. He had ordered police not to touch protesters if they come to petition to the prime minister.

"The Plan B is that I prepare a helicopter for the prime minister (to escape in the event of chaos)," he said.

Army deputy spokesman Colonel Winthai Suvaree said yesterday that people should not worry about Thirayuth's comments about a possible coup. The military was focused on helping people dredge water channels and solve the haze problem (in the North) while also working hard against drug problems. Thai people should listen to the military and look at its work.

Thirayuth said on Sunday that if the red shirt's expansion stirred offensive feelings and actions against the monarchy, the court and the military, it could lead to a "minor coup".

-- The Nation 2012-03-20

[mrtoad]

Under Red Democracy there is no room for dissent against the party line.

[whybother]

Why don't they make this fuss whenever Jatuporn predicts a coup?

[CalgaryII]

"Thirayuth biased against Thaksin, lawyer claims", #1^

A lawyer for former premier Thaksin Shinawatra claims that Thammasat University sociologist Thirayuth Boonmi's criticism of the fugitive ex-PM is biased.

• It is unlikely Thaksin's lawyer used the word 'fugitive', as this quote suggests.
  
• That characterization is a favorite of the Opposition in advancing their criminalization campaign against their political nemesis, now a political exile.
  
• Attributing criminal terminology to their Political opposite, is an attempt to validate their power-grab.
  

"The military was focused on helping people dredge water channels and solve the haze problem (in the North) while also working hard against drug problems. Thai people should listen to the military and look at its work"

• Unfortunately this sector of society is completely compromised, given their vengeful and vicious support of the coupists at R'song. A protest easily solved politically.
  
• To suggest 'helpfullness' now, falls flat with a huge political and societal block within the country.
  
• Paid and pensionable service could be construed as 'helpfullness, but not in the way it is hoped, with a 'volunteerism, good guy', spin.
  

Edited March 20, 2012 by CalgaryII

[whybother]

"Thirayuth biased against Thaksin, lawyer claims", #1^

A lawyer for former premier Thaksin Shinawatra claims that Thammasat University sociologist Thirayuth Boonmi's criticism of the fugitive ex-PM is biased.

• It is unlikely Thaksin's lawyer used the word 'fugitive', as this quote suggests.
  
• That characterization is a favorite of the Opposition in advancing their criminalization campaign against their political nemesis, now a political exile.
  
• Attributing criminal terminology to their Political opposite, is an attempt to validate their power-grab.
  

"The military was focused on helping people dredge water channels and solve the haze problem (in the North) while also working hard against drug problems. Thai people should listen to the military and look at its work"

• Unfortunately this sector of society is completely compromised, given their vengeful and vicious support of the coupists at R'song. A protest easily solved politically.
  
• To suggest 'helpfullness' now, falls flat with a huge political and societal block within the country.
  
• Paid and pensionable service could be construed as 'helpfullness, but not in the way it is hoped, with a 'volunteerism, good guy', spin.
  

"It is unlikely Thaksin's lawyer used the word 'fugitive', as this quote suggests."

It's not a quote. It's a fact.

[DP25]

He had ordered police not to touch protesters if they come to petition to the prime minister.

Maybe they won't use the police to put down the anti Thaksin demonstrators. They may stand by just like he says, while they use red shirt thugs to do the dirty work. They may not be disrupted by the police, but they won't be protected by them either

[yoshiwara]

It is difficult to be unfairly biassed against a convicted money launderer but the reds seem to have their own version of demanding obeisance towards the leader-in-waiting.

[givenall]

Why don't they make this fuss whenever Jatuporn predicts a coup?

Because everyone knows he is an incompetent and a liar

[AleG]

The problem is that facts and ethics are biased against Thaksin and his minions.

[Unkomoncents]

Headline rewrite: "You Not Like Criminal. You Bad, Say Nobody". I think that clarifies things a little.

Edited March 20, 2012 by Unkomoncents

[nurofiend]

someone biased against thaksin?

surely not.

next they'll be telling us that the military hold sway in thai politics.

[OzMick]

Being biased against Thaksin is a sign of morality and conscience. It should be taken as a compliment.

Aren't lawyers normally disbarred when sentenced to prison?

[Nickymaster]

"Thirayuth biased against Thaksin, lawyer claims", #1^

A lawyer for former premier Thaksin Shinawatra claims that Thammasat University sociologist Thirayuth Boonmi's criticism of the fugitive ex-PM is biased.

• It is unlikely Thaksin's lawyer used the word 'fugitive', as this quote suggests.
  
• That characterization is a favorite of the Opposition in advancing their criminalization campaign against their political nemesis, now a political exile.
  
• Attributing criminal terminology to their Political opposite, is an attempt to validate their power-grab.
  

"The military was focused on helping people dredge water channels and solve the haze problem (in the North) while also working hard against drug problems. Thai people should listen to the military and look at its work"

• Unfortunately this sector of society is completely compromised, given their vengeful and vicious support of the coupists at R'song. A protest easily solved politically.
  
• To suggest 'helpfullness' now, falls flat with a huge political and societal block within the country.
  
• Paid and pensionable service could be construed as 'helpfullness, but not in the way it is hoped, with a 'volunteerism, good guy', spin.
  

"A protest easily solved politically"

Yes you are right. The solution was in the hands of 1 person. But....... he prefered to lead his supporters into a dead trap for personal gain.

I can't imagine people spending so much time writing crap for free.

You are so over the top that nobody believes you. It reminds me of someone.

[Sing_Sling]

He had ordered police not to touch protesters if they come to petition to the prime minister.

Maybe they won't use the police to put down the anti Thaksin demonstrators. They may stand by just like he says, while they use red shirt thugs to do the dirty work. They may not be disrupted by the police, but they won't be protected by them either

He had ordered police not to touch protesters if they come to petition to the prime minister.

Maybe they won't use the police to put down the anti Thaksin demonstrators. They may stand by just like he says, while they use red shirt thugs to do the dirty work. They may not be disrupted by the police, but they won't be protected by them either

Quite a simpleton's view, don't you think? Your posts reflect an intense hatred of Thaksin to the exclusion of all else - this makes you look a fool

[jayjayjayjay]

The easiest thing to say in being a vocal social commentator in Thai poitics is the make the statement, "there will be another coup detat, here my words" and when it happens you get famous.....

[lungmi]

Posters who see the facts (even with a different qualification) are all "fools"? I don't hate Thaksin, but I see what he did and do.

[animatic]

He didn't talk about Noppadom being removed from office as Foreign Minister for doing things that were not allowed in his job description either. But no matter the Thaksin Suck pupet has spoken, and awaits the masters hand insertion for the next round of lipsycncing.

Thaksin only one the seats of his owen constituency, and the MP votes in Parliament,

no one wins all the votes nationwide as implied. Not like in a presidential election.

"Toppled" is what happens to dictators, not people who are actual democrats.

So they already think the PM is going to need emergency escape methods...

Not that there are security plans, but they are actually saying this is Plan B.

Yes, the university sociologist doesn't see society as well as the lawyer for a rich guy,

who can't even last 6 months as foreign minster without being forced to resign

and be come a spokes puppet for said rich guy.

Love the credibility factor of negative numbers.

Edited March 20, 2012 by animatic

[takatukaland]

He didn't talk about Noppadom being removed from office as Foreign Minister for doing things that were not allowed in his job description either. But no matter the Thaksin Suck pupet has spoken, and awaits the masters hand insertion for the next round of lipsycncing.

Foreign Minister,yeah i remember one of the Airport hijackers was later Foreign Minister,guess his name is Kasit,of course this has nothing to do with Abisit government,just happened by accident that an Airport hijacker got the job as Foreign Minister!!!!maipenrai

[animatic]

"Thirayuth biased against Thaksin, lawyer claims", #1^

A lawyer for former premier Thaksin Shinawatra claims that Thammasat University sociologist Thirayuth Boonmi's criticism of the fugitive ex-PM is biased.

• It is unlikely Thaksin's lawyer used the word 'fugitive', as this quote suggests.
  
• That characterization is a favorite of the Opposition in advancing their criminalization campaign against their political nemesis, now a political exile.
  
• Attributing criminal terminology to their Political opposite, is an attempt to validate their power-grab.
  

"The military was focused on helping people dredge water channels and solve the haze problem (in the North) while also working hard against drug problems. Thai people should listen to the military and look at its work"

• Unfortunately this sector of society is completely compromised, given their vengeful and vicious support of the coupists at R'song. A protest easily solved politically.
  
• To suggest 'helpfullness' now, falls flat with a huge political and societal block within the country.
  
• Paid and pensionable service could be construed as 'helpfullness, but not in the way it is hoped, with a 'volunteerism, good guy', spin.
  

"It is unlikely Thaksin's lawyer used the word 'fugitive', as this quote suggests."

It's not a quote. It's a fact.

And since there is a known conviction for criminal behavior,

it is not had to call him a criminal.

[animatic]

He didn't talk about Noppadom being removed from office as Foreign Minister for doing things that were not allowed in his job description either. But no matter the Thaksin Suck pupet has spoken, and awaits the masters hand insertion for the next round of lipsycncing.

Foreign Minister,yeah i remember one of the Airport hijackers was later Foreign Minister,guess his name is Kasit,of course this has nothing to do with Abisit government,just happened by accident that an Airport hijacker got the job as Foreign Minister!!!!maipenrai

He went to the airpport several days after the airport take over, he was not an

"airport hijacker", < nothing but Hyperbole.

but he was sympathetic ti the enbd goals if not the means, and gave an anti Thaksin speech.

But no one removed Kasit from office for not knowing his job limitations,

or over stepping his jobs legal restrictions.

So Kasit 1 Noppadom 0

Edited March 20, 2012 by animatic

[animatic]

He had ordered police not to touch protesters if they come to petition to the prime minister.

Maybe they won't use the police to put down the anti Thaksin demonstrators. They may stand by just like he says, while they use red shirt thugs to do the dirty work. They may not be disrupted by the police, but they won't be protected by them either

Quite a simpleton's view, don't you think? Your posts reflect an intense hatred of Thaksin to the exclusion of all else - this makes you look a fool

Or someone who has observed how Thaksin works in the past.

[cm das]

The article quotes Noppadon as saying "More importantly, Thirayuth omitted to talk about interference in the judicial branch's ruling in some cases and made some people feel that Thailand is one country with two standards."

Aren't the reds the ones who are always shouting that there are double standards in this country? Of course there are, but I guess it's only a fair point when your side makes it.

[metisdead]

No matter how veiled the insinuations are, do not go there:

2) Not to express disrespect of the King of Thailand or anyone else in the Thai royal family, whether living or deceased, nor to criticize the monarchy as an institution. Speculation, comments and discussion of either a political or personal nature are not allowed when discussing HM The King or the Royal family. Discussion of the lese majeste law or lese majeste cases is permitted on the forum, providing no comment or speculation is made referencing the royal family. To breach this rule will result in immediate ban.

From this point on, anymore veiled insinuations/speculations, suspensions will be issued.

[phiphidon]

"Thirayuth biased against Thaksin, lawyer claims", #1^

A lawyer for former premier Thaksin Shinawatra claims that Thammasat University sociologist Thirayuth Boonmi's criticism of the fugitive ex-PM is biased.

• It is unlikely Thaksin's lawyer used the word 'fugitive', as this quote suggests.
  
• That characterization is a favorite of the Opposition in advancing their criminalization campaign against their political nemesis, now a political exile.
  
• Attributing criminal terminology to their Political opposite, is an attempt to validate their power-grab.
  

"The military was focused on helping people dredge water channels and solve the haze problem (in the North) while also working hard against drug problems. Thai people should listen to the military and look at its work"

• Unfortunately this sector of society is completely compromised, given their vengeful and vicious support of the coupists at R'song. A protest easily solved politically.
  
• To suggest 'helpfullness' now, falls flat with a huge political and societal block within the country.
  
• Paid and pensionable service could be construed as 'helpfullness, but not in the way it is hoped, with a 'volunteerism, good guy', spin.
  

"It is unlikely Thaksin's lawyer used the word 'fugitive', as this quote suggests."

It's not a quote. It's a fact.

And since there is a known conviction for criminal behavior,

it is not had to call him a criminal.

Guilty of a conflict of interest for allowing his wife to take part in a auction of public land. Hardly Ernst Stavro Blofeld and his white cat material, is it? Interpol even refused to raise a red notice on him despite the democrats lying through their teeth for two years that Interpol was on his trail................http://www.thailando...?DataID=1046931

[takatukaland]

He didn't talk about Noppadom being removed from office as Foreign Minister for doing things that were not allowed in his job description either. But no matter the Thaksin Suck pupet has spoken, and awaits the masters hand insertion for the next round of lipsycncing.

Foreign Minister,yeah i remember one of the Airport hijackers was later Foreign Minister,guess his name is Kasit,of course this has nothing to do with Abisit government,just happened by accident that an Airport hijacker got the job as Foreign Minister!!!!maipenrai

He went to the airpport several days after the airport take over, he was not an

"airport hijacker", < nothing but Hyperbole.

but he was sympathetic ti the enbd goals if not the means, and gave an anti Thaksin speech.

But no one removed Kasit from office for not knowing his job limitations,

or over stepping his jobs legal restrictions.

So Kasit 1 Noppadom 0

According to the Telegraph, Kasit told an audience of astonished diplomats and foreign journalists last week that the protests were "a lot of fun." The food was excellent, the music was excellent," Kasit was quoted as saying.

[volk666]

Guilty of a conflict of interest for allowing his wife to take part in a auction of public land. Hardly Ernst Stavro Blofeld and his white cat material, is it?

I don't know who that cat is, but in Thailand government officials and their wives can't buy land from the government agencies under their control. That is practically the definition of what conflict of interest is.