Mobile Internet On Smartphone?

[uhuh]

with nokia 9300 and DTAC GPRS i need 10-20 minutes to read one email in my yahoo-mailbox. Is this normal?

Or can I expect something faster? How?

Don't tell me to ask DTAC or nokia, there is absolutely no help from both of them.

What is a "smartphone" anyway? I have a nokia 9300 for work. Friends use it as an addressbook. Is that all there is to it? Just a storage device? Internet is too slow for practical purposes - so is this thing any useful? I know I can use it for phone calls, fax, and MMS. Anything else?

Edited December 18, 2005 by uhuh

[tjo o tjim]

I use a blackberry (7290), and get very reasonable speeds; browsing the lofiversion of Thai Visa is only a little painful with about 30 second page loads.

With GPRS, something a lot of people forget is that your speed goes to hel_l if you are moving fast; you lose some of the bandwidth so the system can track where you are.

[Florin]

Still, it should never be as slow as 20 mins for one e-mail unless you're using it in an extremely bad coverage area...has your experience with it been the same around town?

Other uses for something like the Nokia 9300 are instant-messaging, document viewing/editing, video or music playback, games, picture viewing...

[uhuh]

Still, it should never be as slow as 20 mins for one e-mail unless you're using it in an extremely bad coverage area...has your experience with it been the same around town?

Other uses for something like the Nokia 9300 are instant-messaging, document viewing/editing, video or music playback, games, picture viewing...

yes it is the same everywhere

I went to Paragon the other day, DTAC and Nokia are conveniently located opposite of each other at Paragon, so they cannot blame the others for the bad service. I went 2 times back and forth between their shops (and i made sure that I went there when DTAC's "GPRS-specialist" was there), and then I could read an email in 3-4 minutes IF I am somewhere with Edge. I haven't tried it yet, mainly because I am sick and tired of it, it worked there but I don't think it will work when I want to use it... anyway, 3-4 minutes is just good enough in an emergency but nothing really useful.

BTW all games make the 9300 crash, document viewing is ok but editing a pain in the ass, and the other functions...? I don't really wanna try because everything I wanted to do with this thing made it crash, and I really mean everything (except fax which is why I have it, and it works very well). What do you mean by instant messaging? You mean you use a telephone to use msn messenger??? Why don't you just make a phone call?

[Florin]

It definitely sounds like your phone has some problems...perhaps you should upgrade to the latest firmware revision on it (not sure if on the 9300 you can do it yourself or you have to go to a Nokia service center), that usually clears up a lot of stuff.

I use my PDA for MSN, yes, because sometimes I feel like chatting and a lot of my contacts are not in this country

[monty]

I just god rid of my Nokia 6610, and replaced it with a Samsung d600.

The Nokia was gprs class 6, and the Samsung is class 10.

Apart from downloading faster (max 48kbps instead of 32kbps) it's also much more stable.

I was never really inclined to change phones, because I always thought the extra speed of the class 10 was not going to get my connection more stable. On the Nokia the connection very often froze, requiring a disconnect and reconnect to get going again. Sometimes like every 5 minutes...

Since I have the Samsung, I've been regularly connected for more then 1 hour non stop, receiving stable, dial-up comparable speeds.

I only use the gprs on the road, at home I use adsl. AIS post paid gprs package, 450 Baht/month for 120 hours...

So it certainly seems the quality of the gprs (not necesseraly the class) does make a difference.

My connection just went from an emergency, on-the-road e-mail checking connection, to a viable back-up for when my adsl is acting up.

[uhuh]

It definitely sounds like your phone has some problems...perhaps you should upgrade to the latest firmware revision on it (not sure if on the 9300 you can do it yourself or you have to go to a Nokia service center), that usually clears up a lot of stuff.

That was about the first thing I did after buying this phone. At tha time I just knew that it crashed with some applications, I hadn't tried out enough so I didn't know it crashes with every application.

I know now.

Never again Nokia.

[Florin]

I really don't recall many complaints about the stability of the 9300/9500 series...if it's still under warranty, you could consider trying to get it replaced, it seems likely you got a faulty unit.

[markuk]

Still, it should never be as slow as 20 mins for one e-mail unless you're using it in an extremely bad coverage area...has your experience with it been the same around town?

Other uses for something like the Nokia 9300 are instant-messaging, document viewing/editing, video or music playback, games, picture viewing...

yes it is the same everywhere

I went to Paragon the other day, DTAC and Nokia are conveniently located opposite of each other at Paragon, so they cannot blame the others for the bad service. I went 2 times back and forth between their shops (and i made sure that I went there when DTAC's "GPRS-specialist" was there), and then I could read an email in 3-4 minutes IF I am somewhere with Edge. I haven't tried it yet, mainly because I am sick and tired of it, it worked there but I don't think it will work when I want to use it... anyway, 3-4 minutes is just good enough in an emergency but nothing really useful.

BTW all games make the 9300 crash, document viewing is ok but editing a pain in the ass, and the other functions...? I don't really wanna try because everything I wanted to do with this thing made it crash, and I really mean everything (except fax which is why I have it, and it works very well). What do you mean by instant messaging? You mean you use a telephone to use msn messenger??? Why don't you just make a phone call?

I sue the 9300 and have had no problems at all with it. Works fine here in Thailand - i didnt buy it in thailand however maybe thats where your problem lies???

[Plus]

I often use my old Nokia 7610 to check live footbal scores or news when on the move - the speed is about 2-3Kbps, similar to dial-up, and it's a lot faster than booting up a computer for some quick trivial things. I downloaded 200Kb programs in less than 3-4 minutes, so it's most probably the phone playing up, not the GPRS itself.

[wiki256]

mine loads up a site around 1-2 mins. site with lots of graphic and contents would take no more than 3-5 mins.

ive never tried checking emails via my phone, but it shouldnt take that long.

[uhuh]

mine loads up a site around 1-2 mins. site with lots of graphic and contents would take no more than 3-5 mins.

ive never tried checking emails via my phone, but it shouldnt take that long.

DTAC called today and asked, whether I can use GPRS now, and I told them the truth: I haven't tried it anymore and I don't want to be bothered with this shit anymore.

After so many encouraging posts I decided to give it a try: loading the page mail.yahoo.com took only 45 seconds! Signing in and doing all the clicks until I could actually read an email took exactly 5 minutes. This is much better than before I went to Paragon (but I am not impressed, on my PC the same procedure took 35 seconds (hispeed internet from true)). I guess this is pretty much in line with what has been posted here and I should be happy.

BTW the loudspeaker is broken, and as it still is under warranty I have go to a Nokia Care Center. I will ask them to install some software whithout making the phone crash. If they cannot do it I will ask for another phone. I am looking forward to an enjoyable afternoon

Edited January 10, 2006 by uhuh