Tv Reporter To Sue A Red Shirt For Intimidation

[Lite Beer]

TV reporter to sue a red shirt for intimidation

The Nation

BANGKOK:-- A television news reporter on Friday vowed to sue a red-shirt leader for intimidation after the public prosecutors decided not to try the case.

Somjit Nawakruasunthorn of Channel 7 said she wanted to prove wrong a theory on victor's justice after the public prosecutors drop charges against Pornthip Paksanont, local leader of the red shirts from Phetchaburi.

"I have no personal grudges but I want to set an example that a wrogdoer should be punished and not rewarded," she said in reference to the red shirts sharing the spoils of the election victory and getting away from the claws of law.

Somjit filed a police complaint last year charging Pornthip for threatening her in the wake of her posing tough questions on Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra.

The red shirts saw Somjit as being hostile to the prime minister and Pornthip sent 47 e-mail messages to her fellow red shirts asking them to "return the favour" to the reporter.

Somjit said the e-mails could be construed as a threat designed to intimidate her in the line of duty.

On Thursday, Dusit Police, in charge of the complaint, notified her of the prosecution decision to drop the case.

In the prosecution review, the alleged intimidation in question fell under Article 392 of the Criminal Code. Under the provision, an offence happens after the intimidating message has been conveyed to the victim.

But in this case, Pornthip circulated her message among "friends" on her contacts list and did not intend for the victim to read it. By chance Somjit came across the message which led her to idenify the sender Pornthip.

The discovery of the message can be construed as a preparation stage and not the actual act of intimidation as per Article 392, therefore there is no merit to try the case, the prosecution review said.

Somjit said she would initiate her court battle as an individual case without the state's involvement.

She said she disagreed with the legal interpretation done by the public prosecutors. The reasoning was absurd because the citing of Article 392 means she must get hurt or killed in order to prove intimidation, she said.

-- The Nation 2012-03-30

[TAWP]

In a Red Shirt democracy there is no room for critical thoughts or an observant and questioning media organization.

[phiphidon]

In a Red Shirt democracy there is no room for critical thoughts or an observant and questioning media organization.

Your opinion, of course and I respect that, but I think you're gilding the lily somewhat with your description of Channel 7. It is after all owned and run by the RTA.

The second question to Yingluck was "Do you ever think of doing something for the country or the people sometimes or not?"

That question was preceded by this one: "Do you think the cabinet is uglier than the PM?"

So, quality observation and questioning by the reporter there. It does not excuse the aftermath but " the lady doth protest

too much, methinks".

Edited March 30, 2012 by phiphidon

[CalgaryII]

"I have no personal grudges but I want to set an example that a wrogdoer should be punished and not rewarded,............."

But the prosecutor said there was no wrongdoing...... I understand this is the reporter who wrote a book, idolizing Mr. Abhisit. Although she protests that she has loftier goals than 'personal grudges', this background should certainly contextualize her actions. If I recall, the story goes that she was not questioning Ms. Y, but rather attacking her in a derogatory manner. Considering that the UDD/Red Shirts have a clear and publicly acknowledged personal mandate to protect this Govt. to prevent it being stolen again, it is perhaps understandable as to their reactions, whether justified or not. These protective actions will be a fixture for the immediate future. Expect them. The UDD/RS are determined not be caught napping again, like they were in 2006.

Edited March 30, 2012 by CalgaryII

[sparebox2]

Why not just sue the public prosecutors for not tring the case?

[Bluespunk]

It doesn't matter what the reporters agenda was or how stupid and futile her questions were. You cannot threaten someone with violence or encourage others to harm someone because you don't like what they say. If the questions were pointless Yingluck should have said so at the time.

[MEL1]

TV reporter to sue a red shirt for intimidation

I'm not sure what the actual 'news' is supposed to be here.

Is it that the red-shirts have been collared for intimidation? And obviously not, according to;

"On Thursday, Dusit Police, in charge of the complaint, notified her of the prosecution decision to drop the case.

In the prosecution review, the alleged intimidation in question fell under Article 392 of the Criminal Code. Under the provision, an offence happens after the intimidating message has been conveyed to the victim.

But in this case, Pornthip circulated her message among "friends" on her contacts list and did not intend for the victim to read it. By chance Somjit came across the message which led her to idenify the sender Pornthip.

The discovery of the message can be construed as a preparation stage and not the actual act of intimidation as per Article 392, therefore there is no merit to try the case, the prosecution review said."

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Or is it the audacity that a red-shirt may actually be tried to be sued?

Never could it be that a red-shirt may be sued, surely? What's the actual meaning of this article, as I for sure can't grasp the message... - Somebody?

-mel.

[GentlemanJim]

"I have no personal grudges but I want to set an example that a wrogdoer should be punished and not rewarded,............."

But the prosecutor said there was no wrongdoing...... I understand this is the reporter who wrote a book, idolizing Mr. Abhisit. Although she protests that she has loftier goals than 'personal grudges', this background should certainly contextualize her actions. If I recall, the story goes that she was not questioning Ms. Y, but rather attacking her in a derogatory manner. Considering that the UDD/Red Shirts have a clear and publicly acknowledged personal mandate to protect this Govt. to prevent it being stolen again, it is perhaps understandable as to their reactions, whether justified or not. These protective actions will be a fixture for the immediate future. Expect them. The UDD/RS are determined not be caught napping again, like they were in 2006.

For the umptyzillionth and one time, the Government was not stolen from the red shirts.

Now CalgaryII I assume that as you are saying a prosecutor found there was no wrongdoing and that is the end of the matter, the fact that a prosecutor said Thaksin was guilty of a wrongdoing then you will apply the same precedent and we will no longer have to listen to your protestations that Thaksin is innocent of any wrongdoing. Or are you trying to have your cake and eat it?

[MAJIC]

Isn't this kind of hypocracy.what the Red shirts are all about,Burn Bangkok,create Mayhem on the streets,and hold the Country and Government to ransom,in the false name of Democracy,and freedom of speech.

Now that they are in power the rules have changed,any dissent or opposition,must be crushed at source,the same that will happen in the Red Shirt Villages. No Democracy and No Freedom of speach = Villager Slaves to the Party.........like it or lump it,the only choice you have,is what we tell you, (sigh)....haven't we seen this many times before in other Countries?

[ianf]

"I have no personal grudges but I want to set an example that a wrogdoer should be punished and not rewarded,............."

But the prosecutor said there was no wrongdoing...... I understand this is the reporter who wrote a book, idolizing Mr. Abhisit. Although she protests that she has loftier goals than 'personal grudges', this background should certainly contextualize her actions. If I recall, the story goes that she was not questioning Ms. Y, but rather attacking her in a derogatory manner. Considering that the UDD/Red Shirts have a clear and publicly acknowledged personal mandate to protect this Govt. to prevent it being stolen again, it is perhaps understandable as to their reactions, whether justified or not. These protective actions will be a fixture for the immediate future. Expect them. The UDD/RS are determined not be caught napping again, like they were in 2006.

For the umptyzillionth and one time, the Government was not stolen from the red shirts.

Now CalgaryII I assume that as you are saying a prosecutor found there was no wrongdoing and that is the end of the matter, the fact that a prosecutor said Thaksin was guilty of a wrongdoing then you will apply the same precedent and we will no longer have to listen to your protestations that Thaksin is innocent of any wrongdoing. Or are you trying to have your cake and eat it?

The Red Shirt and Thaksin apologists rewrite history. So in their contorted view the Government was stolen by the red shirts and the red shirts have never acted in a threatening manner. It is interesting to note that whenever someone posts irrefutable evidence of the Red Shirts' wrogdoings then their aplogists remain silent. And anyone with any sense and knowledge of recent history knows that the Government was not stolen from the red shirts. If they can make these kinds of claims (repeat a lie often enough and people will believe you) then it leaves the rest of their statements in tatters. How many red shirts were there when the Thaksin dictatorship was toppled?

Edited March 30, 2012 by ianf

[MAJIC]

"I have no personal grudges but I want to set an example that a wrogdoer should be punished and not rewarded,............."

But the prosecutor said there was no wrongdoing...... I understand this is the reporter who wrote a book, idolizing Mr. Abhisit. Although she protests that she has loftier goals than 'personal grudges', this background should certainly contextualize her actions. If I recall, the story goes that she was not questioning Ms. Y, but rather attacking her in a derogatory manner. Considering that the UDD/Red Shirts have a clear and publicly acknowledged personal mandate to protect this Govt. to prevent it being stolen again, it is perhaps understandable as to their reactions, whether justified or not. These protective actions will be a fixture for the immediate future. Expect them. The UDD/RS are determined not be caught napping again, like they were in 2006.

For the umptyzillionth and one time, the Government was not stolen from the red shirts.

Now CalgaryII I assume that as you are saying a prosecutor found there was no wrongdoing and that is the end of the matter, the fact that a prosecutor said Thaksin was guilty of a wrongdoing then you will apply the same precedent and we will no longer have to listen to your protestations that Thaksin is innocent of any wrongdoing. Or are you trying to have your cake and eat it?

Is that a fruit cake or a doughnut ?

[GentlemanJim]

"I have no personal grudges but I want to set an example that a wrogdoer should be punished and not rewarded,............."

But the prosecutor said there was no wrongdoing...... I understand this is the reporter who wrote a book, idolizing Mr. Abhisit. Although she protests that she has loftier goals than 'personal grudges', this background should certainly contextualize her actions. If I recall, the story goes that she was not questioning Ms. Y, but rather attacking her in a derogatory manner. Considering that the UDD/Red Shirts have a clear and publicly acknowledged personal mandate to protect this Govt. to prevent it being stolen again, it is perhaps understandable as to their reactions, whether justified or not. These protective actions will be a fixture for the immediate future. Expect them. The UDD/RS are determined not be caught napping again, like they were in 2006.

For the umptyzillionth and one time, the Government was not stolen from the red shirts.

Now CalgaryII I assume that as you are saying a prosecutor found there was no wrongdoing and that is the end of the matter, the fact that a prosecutor said Thaksin was guilty of a wrongdoing then you will apply the same precedent and we will no longer have to listen to your protestations that Thaksin is innocent of any wrongdoing. Or are you trying to have your cake and eat it?

Is that a fruit cake or a doughnut ?

I think they're all fruit cakes mate

[volk666]

So in prosecution logic there was no intimidation because Somjit herself wasn't on the recipient list.

Imagine a threatening mob forming outside your house, you know they come for you but, following this logic, it's not intimidation until they explicitly address you by name. Overhearing their plans to break into your house doesn't matter and the state can't offer you any legal protection.

[CHANGOVER]

"I have no personal grudges but I want to set an example that a wrogdoer should be punished and not rewarded,............."

But the prosecutor said there was no wrongdoing...... I understand this is the reporter who wrote a book, idolizing Mr. Abhisit. Although she protests that she has loftier goals than 'personal grudges', this background should certainly contextualize her actions. If I recall, the story goes that she was not questioning Ms. Y, but rather attacking her in a derogatory manner. Considering that the UDD/Red Shirts have a clear and publicly acknowledged personal mandate to protect this Govt. to prevent it being stolen again, it is perhaps understandable as to their reactions, whether justified or not. These protective actions will be a fixture for the immediate future. Expect them. The UDD/RS are determined not be caught napping again, like they were in 2006.

For the umptyzillionth and one time, the Government was not stolen from the red shirts.

Now CalgaryII I assume that as you are saying a prosecutor found there was no wrongdoing and that is the end of the matter, the fact that a prosecutor said Thaksin was guilty of a wrongdoing then you will apply the same precedent and we will no longer have to listen to your protestations that Thaksin is innocent of any wrongdoing. Or are you trying to have your cake and eat it?

Is that a fruit cake or a doughnut ?

Is this the Scottish joke you were referring to? Needs a guid accent tha!

A wee boy goes into a cake shop and points in the window and says "Is that a cake or a meringue?"

"|No, you're right" says the baker "- it's a cake."

[MEL1]

I like a lot of what CalgaryII says, I just don't understand any of his accent when he talks.

-mel.

[CHANGOVER]

I like a lot of what CalgaryII says, I just don't understand any of his accent when he talks.

-mel.

He has fluency in gibberish with a thaksin 'twang' which you would only understand if you were a devotee.

[philw]

Isn't this kind of hypocracy.what the Red shirts are all about,Burn Bangkok,create Mayhem on the streets,and hold the Country and Government to ransom,in the false name of Democracy,and freedom of speech.

Now that they are in power the rules have changed,any dissent or opposition,must be crushed at source,the same that will happen in the Red Shirt Villages. No Democracy and No Freedom of speach = Villager Slaves to the Party.........like it or lump it,the only choice you have,is what we tell you, (sigh)....haven't we seen this many times before in other Countries?

Yes, yes, yes, we are all doomed.

Won't be long before marauding bands of red shirts will hoeing down people at random on Silom and ripping geriatric farangs from their taxis because their wives / consorts are the wrong age, gender, ethnicity, skin colour......

Meanwhile, the economy will grow, the baht will depreciate slightly to assist exporters and encourage tourism and life will get slowly better for most Thai people, helped by a sensible minimum wage policy.

Overall, there will be a slow but general improvement in many peoples lives.

And the Democrats will lose the next election. ( If that is what it is )

She's not quite PolPot personified and neither is her brother.

Edited March 30, 2012 by philw

[CHANGOVER]

Isn't this kind of hypocracy.what the Red shirts are all about,Burn Bangkok,create Mayhem on the streets,and hold the Country and Government to ransom,in the false name of Democracy,and freedom of speech.

Now that they are in power the rules have changed,any dissent or opposition,must be crushed at source,the same that will happen in the Red Shirt Villages. No Democracy and No Freedom of speach = Villager Slaves to the Party.........like it or lump it,the only choice you have,is what we tell you, (sigh)....haven't we seen this many times before in other Countries?

Yes, yes, yes, we are all doomed.

Won't be long before marauding bands of red shirts will hoeing down people at random on Silom and ripping geriatric farangs from their taxis because their wives / consorts are the wrong age, gender, ethnicity, skin colour......

I totally agree!

[GentlemanJim]

Isn't this kind of hypocracy.what the Red shirts are all about,Burn Bangkok,create Mayhem on the streets,and hold the Country and Government to ransom,in the false name of Democracy,and freedom of speech.

Now that they are in power the rules have changed,any dissent or opposition,must be crushed at source,the same that will happen in the Red Shirt Villages. No Democracy and No Freedom of speach = Villager Slaves to the Party.........like it or lump it,the only choice you have,is what we tell you, (sigh)....haven't we seen this many times before in other Countries?

Yes, yes, yes, we are all doomed.

Won't be long before marauding bands of red shirts will hoeing down people at random on Silom and ripping geriatric farangs from their taxis because their wives / consorts are the wrong age, gender, ethnicity, skin colour......

Now then philw it wasn't that long ago they were doing exactly that is it? Agreed it wasn't geriatric farangs being pulled from their taxis, but it was geriatric Thais been removed from their hospital beds, but the marauding bands of reds hoeing down people at random on Silom is a pretty accurate assessment. Spot on, go to the top of the class. So you don't envisage much new happening, just a repeat of what they did last time.

I am unsure how any educated westerner used to expecting any assemblance of law and justice can fight the Thaksin corner, normally that is a role specifically kept for elitist power crazy wanabee's who are on his payroll, or educationally bereft peasants who believe whatever BS is fed to them (and the odd bereft farang that takes to the red stage seeking their 5 mins of fame). Still it takes all sorts eh!

Edited March 30, 2012 by GentlemanJim

[MAJIC]

Isn't this kind of hypocracy.what the Red shirts are all about,Burn Bangkok,create Mayhem on the streets,and hold the Country and Government to ransom,in the false name of Democracy,and freedom of speech.

Now that they are in power the rules have changed,any dissent or opposition,must be crushed at source,the same that will happen in the Red Shirt Villages. No Democracy and No Freedom of speach = Villager Slaves to the Party.........like it or lump it,the only choice you have,is what we tell you, (sigh)....haven't we seen this many times before in other Countries?

Yes, yes, yes, we are all doomed.

Won't be long before marauding bands of red shirts will hoeing down people at random on Silom and ripping geriatric farangs from their taxis because their wives / consorts are the wrong age, gender, ethnicity, skin colour......

Now then philw it wasn't that long ago they were doing exactly that is it? Agreed it wasn't geriatric farangs being pulled from their taxis, but it was geriatric Thais been removed from their hospital beds, but the marauding bands of reds hoeing down people at random on Silom is a pretty accurate assessment. Spot on, go to the top of the class. So you don't envisage much new happening, just a repeat of what they did last time.

I am unsure how any educated westerner used to expecting any assemblance of law and justice can fight the Thaksin corner, normally that is a role specifically kept for elitist power crazy wanabee's who are on his payroll, or educationally bereft peasants who believe whatever BS is fed to them (and the odd bereft farang that takes to the red stage seeking their 5 mins of fame). Still it takes all sorts eh!

Sometimes I despair,it's only people like us,with good memories which is stopping the Redshirt Whitewash of 3 months of Arson,Violence,Anarchy,and holding the Country to Ransom, until they got their way.some would call it by it's correct name:... Terrorism.

Edited March 30, 2012 by MAJIC

[KunMatt]

Sometimes I despair,it's only people like us,with good memories which is stopping the Redshirt Whitewash of 3 months of Arson,Violence,Anarchy,and holding the Country to Ransom, until they got their way.some would call it by it's correct name:... Terrorism.

I will never forget that when they got their way during the riot and the government agreed to hold elections within 6 months the red shirts immediately changed their demands so they could continue the rampage and provoke a violent clampdown.

Also, I never ever hear any of the red shirts mention Seh Daeng after he was assasinated within the red shirts safe zone area after an argument with the red shirt leaders. How strange...

[moe666]

Isn't this kind of hypocracy.what the Red shirts are all about,Burn Bangkok,create Mayhem on the streets,and hold the Country and Government to ransom,in the false name of Democracy,and freedom of speech.

Now that they are in power the rules have changed,any dissent or opposition,must be crushed at source,the same that will happen in the Red Shirt Villages. No Democracy and No Freedom of speach = Villager Slaves to the Party.........like it or lump it,the only choice you have,is what we tell you, (sigh)....haven't we seen this many times before in other Countries?

Yes, yes, yes, we are all doomed.

Won't be long before marauding bands of red shirts will hoeing down people at random on Silom and ripping geriatric farangs from their taxis because their wives / consorts are the wrong age, gender, ethnicity, skin colour......

Now then philw it wasn't that long ago they were doing exactly that is it? Agreed it wasn't geriatric farangs being pulled from their taxis, but it was geriatric Thais been removed from their hospital beds, but the marauding bands of reds hoeing down people at random on Silom is a pretty accurate assessment. Spot on, go to the top of the class. So you don't envisage much new happening, just a repeat of what they did last time.

I am unsure how any educated westerner used to expecting any assemblance of law and justice can fight the Thaksin corner, normally that is a role specifically kept for elitist power crazy wanabee's who are on his payroll, or educationally bereft peasants who believe whatever BS is fed to them (and the odd bereft farang that takes to the red stage seeking their 5 mins of fame). Still it takes all sorts eh!

Sometimes I despair,it's only people like us,with good memories which is stopping the Redshirt Whitewash of 3 months of Arson,Violence,Anarchy,and holding the Country to Ransom, until they got their way.some would call it by it's correct name:... Terrorism.

They got there way, early elections and still didn't like it. The folks who support these criminals I wonder what they think they will get when Big T comes back. Sweet smelling s--t when they get there nose out of a PTP a-- Edited March 30, 2012 by moe666

[MAJIC]

Sometimes I despair,it's only people like us,with good memories which is stopping the Redshirt Whitewash of 3 months of Arson,Violence,Anarchy,and holding the Country to Ransom, until they got their way.some would call it by it's correct name:... Terrorism.

I will never forget that when they got their way during the riot and the government agreed to hold elections within 6 months the red shirts immediately changed their demands so they could continue the rampage and provoke a violent clampdown.

Also, I never ever hear any of the red shirts mention Seh Daeng after he was assasinated within the red shirts safe zone area after an argument with the red shirt leaders. How strange...

Good point there,and there dosn't seem much interest by this Government to apprehend the sniper either.

[MEL1]

Isn't this kind of hypocracy.what the Red shirts are all about,Burn Bangkok,create Mayhem on the streets,and hold the Country and Government to ransom,in the false name of Democracy,and freedom of speech.

Now that they are in power the rules have changed,any dissent or opposition,must be crushed at source,the same that will happen in the Red Shirt Villages. No Democracy and No Freedom of speach = Villager Slaves to the Party.........like it or lump it,the only choice you have,is what we tell you, (sigh)....haven't we seen this many times before in other Countries?

Yes, yes, yes, we are all doomed.

Won't be long before marauding bands of red shirts will hoeing down people at random on Silom and ripping geriatric farangs from their taxis because their wives / consorts are the wrong age, gender, ethnicity, skin colour......

Now then philw it wasn't that long ago they were doing exactly that is it? Agreed it wasn't geriatric farangs being pulled from their taxis, but it was geriatric Thais been removed from their hospital beds, but the marauding bands of reds hoeing down people at random on Silom is a pretty accurate assessment. Spot on, go to the top of the class. So you don't envisage much new happening, just a repeat of what they did last time.

I am unsure how any educated westerner used to expecting any assemblance of law and justice can fight the Thaksin corner, normally that is a role specifically kept for elitist power crazy wanabee's who are on his payroll, or educationally bereft peasants who believe whatever BS is fed to them (and the odd bereft farang that takes to the red stage seeking their 5 mins of fame). Still it takes all sorts eh!

Sometimes I despair,it's only people like us,with good memories which is stopping the Redshirt Whitewash of 3 months of Arson,Violence,Anarchy,and holding the Country to Ransom, until they got their way.some would call it by it's correct name:... Terrorism.

Actually, if farang weren't here in big numbers I think it would have been a lot worse?

mel.

[volk666]

In Chiang Mai reds had set up roadblocks checking all traffic, they pulled a judge out of his van for wearing a yellow polo shirt and scared him to death. On another occasion they pulled the father of a yellow radio DJ out of his car, beaten him and then shot him dead in the cold blood.

In 2006 in Bangkok police hired thugs to beat up early proto-yellow protesters just meters away from Thaksin himself. They singled out an elderly man, whisked him away from the crowd, knocked him on the ground then mercilessly kicked him.

In 2007 in Udon thousands of red thugs descended on dozens of yellows preparing for the evening rally and beat several of them unconscious with Thai flagpoles, ironically. Kwanchai, the guy who plans Thaksin's Songkran celebration now, was with the megaphone offering money to anyone who can "get" a yellow leader.

In 2008, in the middle of the night, reds organized a midnight raid on a yellow camp, several hundreds of them, drunk, armed with machetes. Somehow yellows got the wind of it, got prepared and fought them off.

The very first event signaling the emergence of the "reds" was a demonstration outside Thammasat university where yellows had their first political meeting in 2007. Red threw bags filled feces and urine at their buses and one got photographed showing off his penis. Thus the red revolution was born.

Edited March 30, 2012 by volk666

[GentlemanJim]

In Chiang Mai reds had set up roadblocks checking all traffic, they pulled a judge out of his van for wearing a yellow polo shirt and scared him to death. On another occasion they pulled the father of a yellow radio DJ out of his car, beaten him and then shot him dead in the cold blood.

In 2006 in Bangkok police hired thugs to beat up early proto-yellow protesters just meters away from Thaksin himself. They singled out an elderly man, whisked him away from the crowd, knocked him on the ground then mercilessly kicked him.

In 2007 in Udon thousands of red thugs descended on dozens of yellows preparing for the evening rally and beat several of them unconscious with Thai flagpoles, ironically. Kwanchai, the guy who plans Thaksin's Songkran celebration now, was with the megaphone offering money to anyone who can "get" a yellow leader.

In 2008, in the middle of the night, reds organized a midnight raid on a yellow camp, several hundreds of them, drunk, armed with machetes. Somehow yellows got the wind of it, got prepared and fought them off.

The very first event signaling the emergence of the "reds" was a demonstration outside Thammasat university where yellows had their first political meeting in 2007. Red threw bags filled feces and urine at their buses and one got photographed showing off his penis. Thus the red revolution was born.

CalgaryII

Just wondered if you could fill us in on the justification and rational reasoning for the acts outlined in the post above. Give it in your normal political diatribe if you will but we would love to see how the number 1 Thaksin red apologist views this.

volk666

Thanks !!

Edited March 30, 2012 by GentlemanJim

[Skywalker69]

In Chiang Mai reds had set up roadblocks checking all traffic, they pulled a judge out of his van for wearing a yellow polo shirt and scared him to death. On another occasion they pulled the father of a yellow radio DJ out of his car, beaten him and then shot him dead in the cold blood.

In 2006 in Bangkok police hired thugs to beat up early proto-yellow protesters just meters away from Thaksin himself. They singled out an elderly man, whisked him away from the crowd, knocked him on the ground then mercilessly kicked him.

In 2007 in Udon thousands of red thugs descended on dozens of yellows preparing for the evening rally and beat several of them unconscious with Thai flagpoles, ironically. Kwanchai, the guy who plans Thaksin's Songkran celebration now, was with the megaphone offering money to anyone who can "get" a yellow leader.

In 2008, in the middle of the night, reds organized a midnight raid on a yellow camp, several hundreds of them, drunk, armed with machetes. Somehow yellows got the wind of it, got prepared and fought them off.

The very first event signaling the emergence of the "reds" was a demonstration outside Thammasat university where yellows had their first political meeting in 2007. Red threw bags filled feces and urine at their buses and one got photographed showing off his penis. Thus the red revolution was born.

CalgaryII

Just wondered if you could fill us in on the justification and rational reasoning for the acts outlined in the post above. Give it in your normal political diatribe if you will but we would love to see how the number 1 Thaksin red apologist views this.

volk666

Thanks !!

+1

[473geo]

You could ask the 4351 Hmong if they felt intimidated as the Democrats kindly provided a lift to the border

Yep all heart the Democrats.......beats me why people didn't vote for them

[Skywalker69]

You could ask the 4351 Hmong if they felt intimidated as the Democrats kindly provided a lift to the border

Yep all heart the Democrats.......beats me why people didn't vote for them

+1

[volk666]

In each of those episode Reds had justification for doing what they did. If you ask someone to explain it now you'll just hear some sort of interpretation of why it felt right to shoot an old, beaten down man in Chiang Mai. KKK felt lynching blacks was right too. You/we just don't share the same value system.

Reds will say they are a sign of progress, because they believe in elections. That is so 2000, as they said on South Park.

Not many people in the West believe that elections can solve any problems. They are just a dog an pony show for hopeless romantics, politics do not control power anymore, it's the other way around. Democracy as it is practiced in the West has discredited itself and is probably beyond salvation so some 1990 slogans about freedoms and crap are meant only for really really thick people just coming out of the woods.