Ex-Thai PM Thaksin To Address Rally In Cambodia

[cardholder]

hardly any Thais know what happened in Cambodia. None of my wifes university educated friends and none of her family or others who are a part of very poor, none of thais I know or any of the forang I know wives or their friends . Its truly amazing that the mass genicide that happened just over border is totally unknown im sure to 99% of thais. Its a perfect example of their blinkered view. We had a business in BKK and workers around did not even know what business 2-3 doors down did even though they worked there fro many years. SImply ask a Thai for directions to a place a 5 minutes away most dont know. I put it down to education system which totally suppresses any questioning or thought . That and ridiculous obsession with never loosing face. Maybe next generation will be better I certainly hope so for my families sake.

I was surprised that my missus knew about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge - and the Killing Fields.

I was even more surprised that, on a recent visit to PP, she insisted that we go to the Killings Fields. She said that it would be wrong to come to PP on not make the visit as this was part of her (Asian) history and happened in her lifetime.

[bigbamboo]

As an informative pre-brief for anyone planning on attending the rally site. It would be worthwhile to study the Cambodian script a bit as not all the signs contain the English translation

A similar Thai warning says....... "KEEP AWAY! ITS MINE, ALL MINE!"

Edited April 9, 2012 by bigbamboo

[WackySomchai]

Great, can we expect another fiery speech like before?

[Soi Sauce]

all these farlangs thinking they know better, it is for the thai people to decide the outcome of there own country, not just a hand full of farlangs that know nothing.

Never met a Thaksin supporter who knows anything. Must be the education they never had.

After all, the man said it ain't important.

His best mate is also a murderous ex Khmer Rouge honcho and his rabid nationalism and self-promotion based on the methods of a guy named Hitler.

Wonder if any of his supporters know better than this, or even if they know about it.

Edited April 9, 2012 by Soi Sauce

[toenail]

I suppose the ego-maniac needs some more attention. MMMM- I wonder how many chartered buses he is paying for to bring his fans to him...and will it be 200 baht a day for each of his "cheerleaders" to listen to him talking to himself?

[maidu]

Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen on Monday defended his outburst to the media during a regional summit last week in Phnom Penh, saying his critics treat him 'like a child'.

Hun Sen railed against domestic opponents.......

Be interesting to see how Hun Sen and his honchos respond if/when Thailand hosts his Cambodian 'domestic opponents' and makes it cushy for them to hold political rallies in Thailand.

[jonclark]

I suppose the ego-maniac needs some more attention. MMMM- I wonder how many chartered buses he is paying for to bring his fans to him...and will it be 200 baht a day for each of his "cheerleaders" to listen to him talking to himself?

I wonder how many Cambodians will be paid just to attend, after all most Cambodians work for half the price of a Thai. And without sounding racist. Can anyone tell a Cambodian in a red shirt from a Thai in a red shirt?

[Buchholz]

".............perhaps more than tens of thousands" of Thaksin supporters.........."

When the inevitable discussion arises next week, as to how many attended the rally in Cambodia, there will be those who wish to estimate diminished numbers and vice-versa..

link to photo

http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l570/rightie1/nisit.jpg

Is Red Shirt Leader Nisit (left, in prison, along with fellow jailed Red Shirt Leader Jatuporn) still claiming 50,000 Red Shirts will descend on these neighboring countries?

Have Red Shirts out on bail, like Nisit, been given permission to travel out of the country?

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Edited April 10, 2012 by Buchholz

[sparebox2]

who "cannot enter his motherland".

What!!!!

He can come back to Thailand anytime.

His motherland is China, not Thailand.

[EyesWideOpen]

who "cannot enter his motherland".

What!!!!

He can come back to Thailand anytime.

His motherland is China, not Thailand.

:-) I always did think it odd that the former leader of Thailand was ethnic Chinese...

If Thaksin truly did have the best interests of Thailand at heart, he would just quietly fade away. In point of fact he continually does everything possible to tear the country apart. Rallies in neighboring countries?? This is moving into the theater of the absurd.

It appears to me that absolute power must be really addicting. So if you have it, then lose it, you will do ANYTHING to regain it. The fates of Hussein in Iraq and Gaddafi in LIbya spring to mind. They had absolute power, and when asked politely to leave , they chose to fight to a certain death to try to maintain that power.... I sure hope Thaksin is never able to attain that same level of power.

Edited April 10, 2012 by EyesWideOpen

[waza]

"Mass rallies by Thaksin's supporters in the Thai capital in 2010 descended into the kingdom's worst political violence in decades, with more than 90 people -- mostly civilians -- killed in a military crackdown"

A frequent ploy by the media, is to ostensibly give a "quick backgrounder" exemplified by above quote, which in fact is always a 'quick bit of historical revision"...............The attempt to separate R'song from its intention, aim and determination to challenge the coup perps and their electoral minority 'power-grab', was the mission. This fact is never mentioned. What caused the worst political violence in decades, was when the coupists resorted to an armed defence of their coup d'etat................ The above statement misinforms through ommission, a person for whom such a 'quick backgrounder' is necessary............In addition, the 90 people killed were not generically 'civilians'. They were those who stood up to the coup supporters, protectors and 'crackdowners'.......Just a "quick backgrounder"

".............perhaps more than tens of thousands" of Thaksin supporters.........."

When the inevitable discussion arises next week, as to how many attended the rally in Cambodia, there will be those who wish to estimate diminished numbers and vice-versa....I suppose one accurate way would be to count busses, assuming they will be parked in a common area. Just multiply them times the average number usually on a bus, and voila, one has numbers that may be accurate, as opposed to being inconvenient for some.

IMHO 99% of sane people would consider the statement accurate. Of course raving red loonies aren't included as this would clash with their mantra "We did NOTHING wrong"; ignoring the fact that what was an armed insurrection killed both servicemen and innocent bystanders.

No he is partly right the real reason for the protest was the Confiscation of Thaksins ill gotten wealth and included in those killed were innocent civillians waiting at BTS stations, soldiers doing their jobs or counter protestors.

Edited April 10, 2012 by waza

[exeter]

I think rallies are great, they were very popular in the 1930's in Europe, are there any tickets left and how much are they? Perhaps there will be a tour or the region if it goes down well.

[hyperdimension]

The article didn't say whether or not the Red Shirt rank and file have been informed their camp area has mines in it.

If there are any mine explosions they'll probably blame them on the Thai Democrat Party, and politicise the deaths as they have done before and still do.

[mijan24]

all these farlangs thinking they know better, it is for the thai people to decide the outcome of there own country, not just a hand full of farlangs that know nothing.

True except those who make the decisions are in the minority population wise but part of the majority Baht wise.

[hyperdimension]

CalgaryII, you have avoided commenting on Thaksin's close relationship with Hun Sen. Is it because Hun Sen's background is so dark that you are unable to weave it into your pro-Thaksin, pro-Pheu Thai and pro-Red Shirt propaganda?

Thaksin is due to travel to the Cambodian capital Phnom Penh on April 16 to play golf with Hun Sen

CalgaryII clearly continues to avoid any comment on Hun Sen and his close relationship with Thaksin.

[cardholder]

all these farlangs thinking they know better, it is for the thai people to decide the outcome of there own country, not just a hand full of farlangs that know nothing.

True except those who make the decisions are in the minority population wise but part of the majority Baht wise.

Ever has it been the case.

[hyperdimension]

I was looking at the recently-launched World Happiness Report 2012, and noticed that Cambodia ranks amongst African countries like Zimbabwe near the bottom of the overall "happiness" score rankings of 156 countries (Figure 2.3). Cambodia, at 137th, is the lowest-ranked South-East Asian country, whereas Singapore is the highest-ranked South-East Asian country at 33rd. Thailand is 52nd.

What a great job Hun Sen, currently the longest serving leader in South East Asia (and one of the longest serving prime ministers in the world), has done for his country!

Edited April 10, 2012 by hyperdimension

[h90]

who "cannot enter his motherland".

What!!!!

He can come back to Thailand anytime.

His motherland is China, not Thailand.

:-) I always did think it odd that the former leader of Thailand was ethnic Chinese...

If Thaksin truly did have the best interests of Thailand at heart, he would just quietly fade away. In point of fact he continually does everything possible to tear the country apart. Rallies in neighboring countries?? This is moving into the theater of the absurd.

It appears to me that absolute power must be really addicting. So if you have it, then lose it, you will do ANYTHING to regain it. The fates of Hussein in Iraq and Gaddafi in LIbya spring to mind. They had absolute power, and when asked politely to leave , they chose to fight to a certain death to try to maintain that power.... I sure hope Thaksin is never able to attain that same level of power.

Yingluck

Abhisit

Somchai????, maybe not

Samak

Surayud

Thaksin

Sonthi: No

Chuan

Beside Sonthi and Somchai (??) I think all were ethnic Chinese.

[CalgaryII]

With respect to comparing Thaksin and Hun Sen, for the purpose of denigrating Thaksin, is seen for what it is.

"Visiting the sins of one upon the other" doesn't hold water, with Thaksin's electoral bona fides.

Given these undisputed electoral realities, clearly separates the two. Those who wish to perpetuate this specious argument, need to resort to finding fault with Thaksin's electoral success............... Good luck with that.

Hun Sen and Mr. Abhisit would be a better comparison...but they don't like each other....Go figure.

Edited April 10, 2012 by CalgaryII

[cardholder]

With respect to comparing Thaksin and Hun Sen, for the purpose of denigrating Thaksin, is seen for what it is.

"Visiting the sins of one upon the other" doesn't hold water, with Thaksin's electoral bona fides.

Given these undisputed electoral realities, clearly separates the two. Those who wish to perpetuate this specious argument, need to resort to finding fault with Thaksin's electoral success............... Good luck with that.

You mean he was better at vote buying ?

By Thai standards that is, of course, deemed to be success.

[sparebox2]

I hope the red shirts understand the Khmer language.

[waza]

With respect to comparing Thaksin and Hun Sen, for the purpose of denigrating Thaksin, is seen for what it is.

"Visiting the sins of one upon the other" doesn't hold water, with Thaksin's electoral bona fides.

Given these undisputed electoral realities, clearly separates the two. Those who wish to perpetuate this specious argument, need to resort to finding fault with Thaksin's electoral success............... Good luck with that.

Hun Sen and Mr. Abhisit would be a better comparison...but they don't like each other....Go figure.

I am thinking you have been sucking the opium pipe a bit too hard lately, or is it all Sato?

[Buchholz]

I think rallies are great, they were very popular in the 1930's in Europe, are there any tickets left and how much are they? Perhaps there will be a tour or the region if it goes down well.

Become one of Red Shirt Leader Nisit's 50,000 Red Shirts

Give 'em a call

just be careful around the mined areas of the rally site

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[Buchholz]

I suppose the ego-maniac needs some more attention. MMMM- I wonder how many chartered buses he is paying for to bring his fans to him...and will it be 200 baht a day for each of his "cheerleaders" to listen to him talking to himself?

I wonder how many Cambodians will be paid just to attend, after all most Cambodians work for half the price of a Thai. And without sounding racist. Can anyone tell a Cambodian in a red shirt from a Thai in a red shirt?

Essentially, only the farang red shirts are discernible.

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[h90]

With respect to comparing Thaksin and Hun Sen, for the purpose of denigrating Thaksin, is seen for what it is.

"Visiting the sins of one upon the other" doesn't hold water, with Thaksin's electoral bona fides.

Given these undisputed electoral realities, clearly separates the two. Those who wish to perpetuate this specious argument, need to resort to finding fault with Thaksin's electoral success............... Good luck with that.

You mean he was better at vote buying ?

By Thai standards that is, of course, deemed to be success.

Don't forget it wasn't only vote buying.

Remember when he changed the law that you must use rubber stamps when voting and he changed the boots (is it called boots??) so you can see what people vote (there is that famous video showing what his wife votes), Than transporting it by private taxis.

On the last election, beside massive vote buying, it was of course also Abhisits poor performance, many people who would normally would vote for the Democrats didn't vote or vote "NO".

Which is actually the main problem: The Democrats are only good if you compare them with Thaksin.

[Morgo]

I'm sick the media referring to Taskin Shinawatra as the "fugitive former premier". Surely a more accurate description would be "deposed prime minister Taskin Shinawatra".

[waza]

I'm sick the media referring to Taskin Shinawatra as the "fugitive former premier". Surely a more accurate description would be "deposed prime minister Taskin Shinawatra".

OMB, not this old chestnut again. His correct title is Thaksin the convicted criminal and fugitive from justice.

[AleG]

With respect to comparing Thaksin and Hun Sen, for the purpose of denigrating Thaksin, is seen for what it is.

"Visiting the sins of one upon the other" doesn't hold water, with Thaksin's electoral bona fides.

Given these undisputed electoral realities, clearly separates the two. Those who wish to perpetuate this specious argument, need to resort to finding fault with Thaksin's electoral success............... Good luck with that.

Hun Sen and Mr. Abhisit would be a better comparison...but they don't like each other....Go figure.

The only thing this answers (in the negative) is the question "Is there BS so low that CalgaryII won't spew it?"

[AleG]

I'm sick the media referring to Taskin Shinawatra as the "fugitive former premier". Surely a more accurate description would be "deposed prime minister Taskin Shinawatra".

Except for the fact that, legally, Thaksin wasn't the PM at the time of the coup. He had resigned and later on, on his own, assumed the PM office unconstitutionally.

[Insight]

I'm sick the media referring to Taskin Shinawatra as the "fugitive former premier". Surely a more accurate description would be "deposed prime minister Taskin Shinawatra".

Except for the fact that, legally, Thaksin wasn't the PM at the time of the coup. He had resigned and later on, on his own, assumed the PM office unconstitutionally.

This week I'm going on Thaksin The Bare Faced Liar. No problems with spelling or accuracy there.