pogal Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Ngong...ววววววววววว.... ....must be related to Samak!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorG Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 I wonder what part of "zero fatalities" got lost in translation? It is the only excuse I can think of for naming this project in the first place. If you are going to set goals (in whatever situation) then you need to make them attainable. Even one death would have made this a failure. Maybe the slogan just looked too good to resist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWalkingMan Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 These people are loons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiphidon Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 (edited) I'll try again. If you read the article without the "benefit" of the two offending sub headings you end up with this: Deputy Prime Minister and Interior Minister Yongyoot Wichaidit said during the weekly “Yingluck Government Meets the People” program that the government regrets the loss of lives and the injuries suffered by the public during this year's Songkran holidays. Nothing contentious there Mr. Yongyoot stated that both deaths and injuries seen in the past holiday are tragic and remain a lesson for those who live to remember. Or here However, the Deputy PM is pleased that the government-initiated campaign to rid the country of road fatalities during the Songkran holidays ended up with six provinces recording 'zero' death this year. They include Nakhon Phanom, Trat, Trang, Ranong, Pattani and Satun. Well, He's hardly likely to be displeased with a number of provinces, no matter how small the number, recording zero deaths is he? He added that, with more than 260 districts across the country reported no road accident at all, the campaign could be declared a success of a certain level. a certain level, i.e with regard to this part of the "report", the fact that 260 plus districts reported no accidents at all, could point to the limited success of the campaign Now it reads quite differently, doesn't it. The addition of the idiotic sub headings can only be described as an attempt by the National News Bureau to ridicule the source. They serve no other purpose other than to precondition the reader as to what to expect. Edited April 21, 2012 by phiphidon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotsdude Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 quite normal behavior for a people who put salt on strawberry's and pineapple i find So why do you stay there if you feel this way about the people? u can choose to stay anywhere you want... it doesn't mean you have to like what people do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 After reading the above carefully and slowly, for several time, I had to conclude he must be right. I am certain he must mean higher number of fatalities and wounded hugely raised income for temples, undertakers, hospitals and help services. Viewed in that way, it most certainly is a success. One man's death is another man's gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodcaulk Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Well........speachless! I'm reminded of old G.W. Bush declaring "Mission Accomplished" regarding the Iraq war back in 2003. Reality is not something that applies to politics. I assume you are referring to his landing on the USS Abraham Lincoln, giving a speech in front of a two word banner hung by the crew of the ship. In his speech those two words were never uttered and the banner referred specifically to the aircraft carrier's 10-month deployment (which was the longest deployment of a carrier since the Vietnam War) and not the war itself,It truly did signify a mission accomplished for the crew. I was never a fan of GWB and aknowledge there is plenty to criticize him about, but I prefer to remain accurate when doing so...FWIW. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lianab Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 There is at saying - Just because you say so, doesn't make it true. Tragic. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdenner Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 the campaign could be declared a success of a certain level. [____________] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 makes you wonder what they would consider a disaster if 320+ was a success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIT Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Yes, a resounding success. Well done to all concerned in the 'Zero Songkran Holiday Death' Campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 (edited) These people are loons. Could not have said it better. The rest of the world is reading this Gov stuff and really is laughing at what people in authority are really doing to take home their pay cheque. BUT WAIT, The drug problem in LOS is nearly over too. Edited April 21, 2012 by transam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimky Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 last year 69,121,992 survived this year 69,123,735 survived success, imo, but give me 10 days - I'll poll 48,000,000 residents in that time span, see how they feel and will report back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunkeith Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 ahhh, politicians around the world, no matter where you go, say the stupidest things. "Peace in our time" Nevelle Chamberlain, September, 1938. Germany occupied the Sudetenland the next day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuitone Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Majority of those 'death free' provinces are predominately Muslim. Probably the lowest accident Songkran count in them every year. Less drunk motorists 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 I'll try again. If you read the article without the "benefit" of the two offending sub headings you end up with this: Deputy Prime Minister and Interior Minister Yongyoot Wichaidit said during the weekly “Yingluck Government Meets the People†program that the government regrets the loss of lives and the injuries suffered by the public during this year's Songkran holidays. Nothing contentious there Mr. Yongyoot stated that both deaths and injuries seen in the past holiday are tragic and remain a lesson for those who live to remember. Or here However, the Deputy PM is pleased that the government-initiated campaign to rid the country of road fatalities during the Songkran holidays ended up with six provinces recording 'zero' death this year. They include Nakhon Phanom, Trat, Trang, Ranong, Pattani and Satun. Well, He's hardly likely to be displeased with a number of provinces, no matter how small the number, recording zero deaths is he? He added that, with more than 260 districts across the country reported no road accident at all, the campaign could be declared a success of a certain level. a certain level, i.e with regard to this part of the "report", the fact that 260 plus districts reported no accidents at all, could point to the limited success of the campaign Now it reads quite differently, doesn't it. The addition of the idiotic sub headings can only be described as an attempt by the National News Bureau to ridicule the source. They serve no other purpose other than to precondition the reader as to what to expect. No. Actually it reads exactly the same as most other years. There are allways districts and provinces that 'report ' no accidents or deaths. But most politicians do not claim that as a success. They know that's just 'how it is ' It was a stupid claim in the 1st place and could NEVER have been achieved, But you have your red tinted specs on so can not see that. These headlines claiming success are for those of the electorate that only listen or read the headlines. That what all the chest beating is about. Posted with Thaivisa App http://apps.thaivisa.com 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maseratimartin Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 That I call optimistic....you have to look at how many are still alive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetotravel Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 "more than 260 districts across the country reported no road accident at all" No Cars, No Roads = No road accidents, save the over turned water buffalo No "reported" accidents. We can pretty much guarantee accidents happened in every district. Just weren't officially reported. Also, a fatality is only recorded as such if it occurs immediately during or immediately after the accident. If the victim dies a week or two later, it's not reported as an accident fatality. Research how Thailand reports traffic accidents. Crazy stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unkomoncents Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 makes you wonder what they would consider a disaster if 320+ was a success Any number of deaths is a success in Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01322521959 Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 "260 provinces reported no accidents at all." What, throughout the whole 7 days? Yeah, sure. I think this could be amusing if it weren't so bl*#dy serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilyushin Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Failed, successfully! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creck Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 I often hear politicians say ridiculous and baseless things but this must be the most fantastic ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcw Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Someone should tell Deputy Prime Minister and Interior Minister Yongyoot Wichaidit that making a SATIRE JOKE about so many people getting mangled and passing away and getting hurt is just not cool. Hey, has mommy Y got a new side kick, how many Deputy PMs are there now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yummypizza Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Sort of reminds me of the Iraqi propaganda guy, claiming victory & saying,it's preposterous to think we are losing, etc....while the allied forces were breaking down the door....lol deserves a clap i think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyranjim Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 PTP's blinkered & hollow statement today is a great insult to the many people who lost their lives on the roads this last week & to many others who are now spending their lives in disability from crashes. My prayers are with the injured & the families of those poor people. Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creck Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 (edited) That's one way of looking at it. But last year was also a statistical outlier. Year-on-year comparisons are always problematic. Compared to 2007-2010, inclusive, this was a better year. 2007: 361 deaths, 4,805 injuries and 4,274 accidents 2008: 368 deaths, 4,801 injuries and 4,243 accidents 2009: 373 deaths, 4,332 injuries and 3,977 accidents 2010: 361 deaths, 3,802 injuries and 3,516 accidents 2011: 271 deaths, 3,476 injuries and 3,215 accidents 2012: 320 deaths, 3,320 injuries and 3,129 accidents I have, as a professional, looked at their stats for road accidents and fatalities and spoken to the people collecting them. To be polite, they are politically affected. The political requirement from local and national politicians is that they get better – so they do. Edited April 21, 2012 by creck 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheshiremusicman Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 PTP's blinkered & hollow statement today is a great insult to the many people who lost their lives on the roads this last week & to many others who are now spending their lives in disability from crashes. My prayers are with the injured & the families of those poor people. Well said 'Yunla'. How in all the hell in creation can these people spout such untter crap AND get away with it?. BULLSHIT, THE OPIATE OF THE MASSES HERE IN THAILAND! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayman Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 One mans success is another mans failure................dream on! If you are still alive, that's a success. If you are dead, well, you failed. That's right... if you died then you failed.. the campaign was still a success of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 PTP's blinkered & hollow statement today is a great insult to the many people who lost their lives on the roads this last week & to many others who are now spending their lives in disability from crashes. My prayers are with the injured & the families of those poor people. Well said 'Yunla'. How in all the hell in creation can these people spout such untter crap AND get away with it?. BULLSHIT, THE OPIATE OF THE MASSES HERE IN THAILAND! Weeeeeeeeeeell, it's just the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianCR Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 (edited) To criticize one first has to establish what level is is referring to when he says "the campaign could be declared a success of a certain level." I mean, Bangkok floods were a success - for the flood water I meant, the level being 1 meter above ground level. Now let's compare that to the governments earthquake plans - If an entire city is flattened it could be, at a level (no pun intended) considered a success - for the earthquake!! Make sense? Thai politicians (of all parties) are looking for people like you, people who truly understand them! Edited April 21, 2012 by BrianCR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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