Thai Women Extorting Money From Farlangs Through Facebook

[ozzieovaseas]

Again apologies for using the wrong term "extorting"!

The funniest thing is people are actually defending these girls. We all know it's a game for them etc etc. but to put poverty in to the question is absurd!

Farlangs are the problem with Thailand, we gift, sympathy etc for what!

Let's be serious the average wage in Thailand is 12,000 baht a month. The average price of food is 30bht. A room 2000 bht.

Without us they'd be fine.

Go look in Cambodia or the Philippines the women are completely different. No games played. They are a lot poorer there.

You are joking? The Philippines is notorious for "sympathy" scams and many websites carry warnings to that affect. Western Union posts warnings due to the number of complaints from American's sending money to Pinay's and then finding they don't exist or suddenly disappear. Normally starts with - no money for food, can't pay rent, parents / sibblings / offspring ill and no money for hospitals, accident / illness and no money for medicine etc etc. All caerfully planted into conversations whilst trying to build a relationship. A friend in the Philppines nearly fell for all this crap, but luckily got someone to check. The young lady was actually living in a very nice house with boyfriend and children, and apparently had several "friends" in Europe and the States sending regular donations to aleviate her poverty! I saw similar things in India, China and yes, the UK too. Not unique to Thailand at all.

I believe what the poster is trying to say is that the Thai women are more cunning, and clever than those in the Phillippines. I believe that. A friend of mine who lived in Cambodia, Thailand and the Phillippines for many years tells me the same thing. He tells me he thinks the Thai women are far too manipulative, cunning, and clever for him, and he does not find the girls to be like that in the Phillippines. So, there may be some truth to this theory.

"Some truth?" It sounds like this is something you want to personally believe. For every guy that's negative on Thai women, there's just as many who are negative on Filipino women. So it's just a matter of opinion. I will say that there are many more Filipino women desperate to leave the PI than Thai women. Not sure how that factors....

There are some guys i know who are capable of being negative on women of all races...I certainly could'nt deny of having felt that way..once or twice.

But yes, i would share the opinion that Fillipino are defintely more keen on seeking a better life away from their own countries, hence they are more genuine in their approach, and do not try on the same BS.

Thais on the other hand, well what can you say. Not many want to leave and try out life in the west, for whatever reason, be they rich or poor. Most believe there is very little of significance outside their own borders, except (of course) for the potential of making big money overseas and then returning home.

Anyway why would they want to leave? Thai law often protects their apprehensible behaviour and allows them to get away with treating forieners with contempt.

In fact,i'd go as far as to say scams against farangs are widely condoned here and even encouraged by at least one former PM.

Having said that, all potential trouble side, they are still delectable little dishes from which i can't seem to abstain myself from!!

[ozzieovaseas]

"Never paid for it" is an interesting statement.

I once dated a Thai/Chinese "good" girl with a good job in Bangkok, met on the dating websites. I never paid for it then either, but i did spent well in access of 10k in a manner of weeks, going out to all the expensive places she liked.

To say i never paid for it was exactly the case anyways, as one night after a month or i so, when i got down to the nitty-gritty with her she told me that she thinks of our friendship same same as her brother. no sex, so nothing to "pay" for

Never had the same problems with girls from other origins though. As a rule they dont like going out in the city as everything is so expensive and they dont really like it anyway. But life in the burbs can be much better due the lack of a long line of punters solely searching for farang $s.

Anyway, I can with all honesty say i've never paid a lump sum in agreement for sex with these GFs, but i would'nt be as naive as to state they never cost me anything.

I have spent quite a bit in their company, as Thai girls do not expect to "go Dutch" for expenses as a rule, and will not usually suffer being seen opening their purse to help the farang pay for the bill.

10k in a matter of weeks! my you really do know how to chuck it about.

Yeah, i guess thats why my GFs occasionally call me kee niow yet they seem to come back for more.

Im sure they'd have even better names for the guys on here who are so young and verile and handsum who claim they never spend anything on their girls. They all go dutchies and if you listen to them..the girls probably even pay them.

Oviously a case of...true love

Anyway, i mentioned weeks...in total.

There was'nt that many dates, but the few were expensive ones,by Bangkok standards, and by other GFs standards too.

They would have a heart attack at the thought of spending 3k on entertainment for one night.

And with regards to these so called hi-so,Thai/chins that go out wiith all the studs on here..in reality you are often lucky to see them twice a week as these "good" girls seem to be busy with work and supposedly work related functions...

But NOoooo...theres no way they'd be out socialising with all the other farangs on the net that "don't pay 'em"

what a larf!

Most the girls I know through my wife know their parents got wealthy or rich by saving and reinvesting their money do go out for expensive meals occasionally, but mostly save and would rather eat somewhere cheaper.

Most their familes made the money one or two generations before them and have been taught to save as there's nothing to fall back on here. They always pay their share and want to pay others when eating with friends what they are like when eating with just their husbands/boyfriends I don't know.

It's some of the friends whose parents aren't so well off even though many on here would call them middle class, upper middle class , hi-so, Thai - Chinese, they aren't, who are the ones who want to go to the exenpensive restaurants all the time yet struugle to get their purse out. Wear designer labels, the latest expensive fashions, drive new cars , expensive condos. They are the ones who have had farang boyfriends their own age or a little older who when you see the guy again after they broke up moan about the same thing as you saying she was bleeding me dry wanting expensive meals every night and my wife agrees with them. You also hear the girl moaning bitching that she's been called a gold digger. All these girls really have is a half decent job, fed up parents and a trail of credit behind them.

Anyway in short in my experience the ones whose families have money (and many without ) save and mostly eat food 30-100B.

It's girls without who try to look like and live a lifestyle like the previously mentioned ones could if they wanted.

Although looking at how spoilt my wifes cousins eldest kid is ...................... I'm sure there's plenty more, but it's the same with social climbers the world over.

You mention young verile handsome guys, does this mean there was an age gap between you and the girls?

And as for only seeing them a couple of times a week - Isn't that a good thing ?

Some pretty good observations there i'd say.

Just to add, one thing i constantly find hilarious, in regards to what you correctly noted about the wealthier Thais..

It seems to be only them (the truelly rich) who realise the key to getting rich is NOT spending money, hence their shrewd but clever preferance towards spending OTHER peoples and saving their own.

The wannabes however seem to have no idea of what it means to save. They want everything without working for it,have nothing and are doomed to stay that way, simply because they believe being rich (or giving off the illusion of such) means being able to spend in neverending succession as if money never runs out...well, so long as there is someone to show off in front of.

Their own habits prevent them from saving anything but that hardly matter as appearing to be rich is the more important thing. Sad really that peoples whole self worth is wrapped around what useless possessions they have.

just one case i know of: Family wedding in a village up north..GFs sister and husband sold their pickup (with the excuse it was getting old anyway) went to a gold shop the day before the wedding and bought 2 thick gold necklaces to wear to the wedding.

When wedding was over 5 days later it was straight back to another gold shop, resold the gold and bought another pickup even older than the one they'd had!!

Anyway, your questions:

The biggest age gap between me and any GF i've had here is 8 years. I just cant seem to even talk to or relate to anyone much younger than that.

Dead right about only seeing them a few times a week being a good thing. I always thought it was BS about paying girls to go away, but I once donated to the cause of a GF going back up north to spend some time with family...thinking she'd be gone a good month or so and i'd actually save money..she was back after 5 days!!

DOH

Edited May 21, 2012 by ozzieovaseas

[AverageFarang]

The biggest age gap between me and any GF i've had here is 8 years. I just cant seem to even talk to or relate to anyone much younger than that.

How old are you mate? I prefer them a bit older than me. Early forties is my scene. Best one I had was about 45. She loved it

[AverageFarang]

I have never tried online dating, webecam or whatever.

I can only assume guys going online looking for girls are related to the elephant man, hiding from their wife in the mancave supposedly playing "Dungeons and Dragons" or going through a mid-life crisis and thinking of going out for ice cream and never coming back.

...and in all case listed above, I'd say they are ripe for paying for a little online affection and the girls know how to play them.

True mate. Theres a lot of lonely men out there. We see it all the time. The older blokes all think they've pulled a stunner and they don't know she's playing the same game with loads of other men too. And the blokes who are getting conned don't realise it and then they get defensive and start arguing.

Actually mate it has nothing to do with old or young. It's mostly the guys who work offshore and don't live in Thailand full time or the weekend millionaires who vacation here after meeting ladies on line. The mates who live here full time are always in a state of hilarity watching the ladies juggle multiple Thai and Farang husbands and lovers for cash and bragging rights. You hear stuff like "sorry we can't use the toys this weekend because hubby is in town and would notice the marks."

That's the truth. It's the blokes who don't live here who get conned the worst. But I think its also the blokes who don't live here who are the ones who don't wanna hear the truth.

I've seen a few other men on this website use the phrase self denial .I'd not heard that before, but its a good phrase.

[BigJohnnyBKK]

Lot's of posts getting voted 'Popular' in this topic.

Please vote this one popular as well, click 'Like This'.

Just because you can.

Karma whore

[TommoPhysicist]

The biggest age gap between me and any GF i've had here is 8 years. I just cant seem to even talk to or relate to anyone much younger than that.

Pointless boast if you don't state your own age.

For example, if you are 20 it's easily understandable that you can't relate to someone 12 ....... and really dodgy if your gf was 12. Even 30 and 22 we could understand.

But when you reach 65 then a 57 year old girlfriend may leave a little something to be desired.

Edited May 21, 2012 by TommoPhysicist

[cdnvic]

This is a topic that had "Doomed from the beginning" written all over it. I must admit I'm impressed at how much restraint has been shown.

Of course I probably just jinxed it now.

[ozzieovaseas]

The biggest age gap between me and any GF i've had here is 8 years. I just cant seem to even talk to or relate to anyone much younger than that.

Pointless boast if you don't state your own age.

For example, if you are 20 it's easily understandable that you can't relate to someone 12 ....... and really dodgy if your gf was 12. Even 30 and 22 we could understand.

But when you reach 65 then a 57 year old girlfriend may leave a little something to be desired.

I don't see how what i said was boasting?

But yeah, i get your point, maybe it would have made more sense if i'd said i've no inclination to date a any Thai woman under 30

[TommoPhysicist]

But yeah, i get your point, maybe it would have made more sense if i'd said i've no inclination to date a any Thai woman under 30

Pretty much all of us are dating/marrying/searching for girls 30-35, no matter how old we are.

Seems like the ideal age to me, and almost everyone I know.

[tinfoilhat]

How has this tread gone from Thai women extorting money from farlangs through facebook …

into …

Posters on TVF publicly divulging how they meet their current or past squeeze and whether they paid for it … or not, as the case may be.

thats a pretty disingenuous question. Haven't you notice that pretty much every thread on TV comes back to prostitution one way or another?

[kerryk]

But yeah, i get your point, maybe it would have made more sense if i'd said i've no inclination to date a any Thai woman under 30

Pretty much all of us are dating/marrying/searching for girls 30-35, no matter how old we are.

Seems like the ideal age to me, and almost everyone I know.

Dating (20)/Marrying (40)/ searching (19)

[MrRealDeal]

My guess is she went to do some shot time activity and came back with some cash and sold you a story ! I doubt "most" people go broke because of Thai girls, a few sure , a few anywhere , but dun kid yourself as to who is smarter the begger or the generous person ..... I think you fail to realise that most of those people could care less about the money or the story they just have some extra money and are being charitable ..... Most know the story is nonsense but they also know if you are begging money you also probabbly need some. Most people who give money to street beggars in the USA know full well they are probabbly not homeless or broke but just panhandle for a living. The important point is most people don't care, they just figure if you are desperate enough to beg for a living they will help ya out. They sell free newspapers in times square and everyone knows they are free but give a buck or 2 to the "homeess" people selling them just to be nice. Once again dont be fooled into thinking the person with the money is so much dumber than the person begging for it.

[BigJohnnyBKK]

Pretty much all of us are dating/marrying/searching for girls 30-35, no matter how old we are.

Seems like the ideal age to me, and almost everyone I know.

For me not so much, at least not once I got past 40. If a SO starts getting up there while we're together no problem, but when starting fresh I tend to go as low as possible without getting into legal problems, less past baggage to have to de-program.

But that's just me, I'm a very patient guy, and not looking for intellectual conversation or emotional maturity in my spinners, believe in separate of roles rather than trying to find everything in the one person.

[cdnvic]

I removed some personal attacks and references to the specifics of prostitution, neither of which will be tolerated.

[Johnniey]

But yeah, i get your point, maybe it would have made more sense if i'd said i've no inclination to date a any Thai woman under 30

Pretty much all of us are dating/marrying/searching for girls 30-35, no matter how old we are.

Seems like the ideal age to me, and almost everyone I know.

How old are you and almost everyone you know?

Seems rather old to me. Why would you look for a girl of 35 when you could find one that is 25?

[kurnell]

I have been extorted in the past and it is no laughing matter. After an oil massage, with what seemed like several accidental brushes against my nethers, the girl asked if I wanted to give her extra for a special. Needless to say I was curious so I paid the money. Now I am so affected mentally that I fall for the same trap every time I go for an oil massage. Can someone help me?

Never go into these places with a 'loaded gun'.

...with a hair trigger

[ozzieovaseas]

But yeah, i get your point, maybe it would have made more sense if i'd said i've no inclination to date a any Thai woman under 30

Pretty much all of us are dating/marrying/searching for girls 30-35, no matter how old we are.

Seems like the ideal age to me, and almost everyone I know.

How old are you and almost everyone you know?

Seems rather old to me. Why would you look for a girl of 35 when you could find one that is 25?

If you have to ask that then you are probably in your 20's as well.

No point in trying to explain, in another 20 years you will know

[mca]

This is a topic that had "Doomed from the beginning" written all over it. I must admit I'm impressed at how much restraint has been shown.

Of course I probably just jinxed it now.

I removed some personal attacks and references to the specifics of prostitution, neither of which will be tolerated.

cdnvic- the Nostradamus of TVF

[kerryk]

But yeah, i get your point, maybe it would have made more sense if i'd said i've no inclination to date a any Thai woman under 30

Pretty much all of us are dating/marrying/searching for girls 30-35, no matter how old we are.

Seems like the ideal age to me, and almost everyone I know.

How old are you and almost everyone you know?

Seems rather old to me. Why would you look for a girl of 35 when you could find one that is 25?

Kink

[Honkytowner]

It's not extortion if there's no threat, whether real or implied. It's simply the unhappy (for the farang) combination of a plausible sob story, gullibility and a misguided sense of charity.

Edited May 22, 2012 by Honkytowner

[spidermike007]

Again apologies for using the wrong term "extorting"!

The funniest thing is people are actually defending these girls. We all know it's a game for them etc etc. but to put poverty in to the question is absurd!

Farlangs are the problem with Thailand, we gift, sympathy etc for what!

Let's be serious the average wage in Thailand is 12,000 baht a month. The average price of food is 30bht. A room 2000 bht.

Without us they'd be fine.

Go look in Cambodia or the Philippines the women are completely different. No games played. They are a lot poorer there.

You are joking? The Philippines is notorious for "sympathy" scams and many websites carry warnings to that affect. Western Union posts warnings due to the number of complaints from American's sending money to Pinay's and then finding they don't exist or suddenly disappear. Normally starts with - no money for food, can't pay rent, parents / sibblings / offspring ill and no money for hospitals, accident / illness and no money for medicine etc etc. All caerfully planted into conversations whilst trying to build a relationship. A friend in the Philppines nearly fell for all this crap, but luckily got someone to check. The young lady was actually living in a very nice house with boyfriend and children, and apparently had several "friends" in Europe and the States sending regular donations to aleviate her poverty! I saw similar things in India, China and yes, the UK too. Not unique to Thailand at all.

I believe what the poster is trying to say is that the Thai women are more cunning, and clever than those in the Phillippines. I believe that. A friend of mine who lived in Cambodia, Thailand and the Phillippines for many years tells me the same thing. He tells me he thinks the Thai women are far too manipulative, cunning, and clever for him, and he does not find the girls to be like that in the Phillippines. So, there may be some truth to this theory.

"Some truth?" It sounds like this is something you want to personally believe. For every guy that's negative on Thai women, there's just as many who are negative on Filipino women. So it's just a matter of opinion. I will say that there are many more Filipino women desperate to leave the PI than Thai women. Not sure how that factors....

I was not stating my opinion. I have been with a Thai woman for 6 years that I adore. She is the best woman I have ever been with. So, please do not jump to conclusions, and consider growing thicker skin.

[Berkshire]

You are joking? The Philippines is notorious for "sympathy" scams and many websites carry warnings to that affect. Western Union posts warnings due to the number of complaints from American's sending money to Pinay's and then finding they don't exist or suddenly disappear. Normally starts with - no money for food, can't pay rent, parents / sibblings / offspring ill and no money for hospitals, accident / illness and no money for medicine etc etc. All caerfully planted into conversations whilst trying to build a relationship. A friend in the Philppines nearly fell for all this crap, but luckily got someone to check. The young lady was actually living in a very nice house with boyfriend and children, and apparently had several "friends" in Europe and the States sending regular donations to aleviate her poverty! I saw similar things in India, China and yes, the UK too. Not unique to Thailand at all.

I believe what the poster is trying to say is that the Thai women are more cunning, and clever than those in the Phillippines. I believe that. A friend of mine who lived in Cambodia, Thailand and the Phillippines for many years tells me the same thing. He tells me he thinks the Thai women are far too manipulative, cunning, and clever for him, and he does not find the girls to be like that in the Phillippines. So, there may be some truth to this theory.

"Some truth?" It sounds like this is something you want to personally believe. For every guy that's negative on Thai women, there's just as many who are negative on Filipino women. So it's just a matter of opinion. I will say that there are many more Filipino women desperate to leave the PI than Thai women. Not sure how that factors....

I was not stating my opinion. I have been with a Thai woman for 6 years that I adore. She is the best woman I have ever been with. So, please do not jump to conclusions, and consider growing thicker skin.

This is not a huge deal to me, but I'm just responding to your comment. And your comment was that "there may be some truth to this theory," with the theory being that Thai women are more wicked relative to other SE Asian women. If that's not your opinion, then what is your opinion?

[yogi100]

Good for the girls..There Not Stealing the Money or extorting cash..Weak men Give it to them Free...

Weak men..... ??

There are millions of different scenarios as to why guys may appear weak to another but genuine guys don't deserve to be rammed for perhaps looking for some happiness....??

When a guy is low in mood for whatever reason he may well clutch at someone who appears genuine and wants to be friends or more. Doesn't mean they should be stripped of cash out of utter deviousness...??

Well said.

Also:

Some people are a bit to quick to put the boot into others while disregarding their own situations. How many, coming on here, have spent millions of baht on properties that they don't own? Properties that are in their wives/girlfriends names and not theirs? And before you try and say that it's not the same, I'm sorry but it is. It's money that you will probably never see back.

Desperation can make men do stupid things and there's alot of desperate guys out there. They've foolishly sent a few thousand baht to some conniving little piece of fluff they met over the internet. Not too much harm done and hopefully they learn a lesson from it.

Before the internet there were contact magazines. Contact was conducted through the postal service. A photo of a pretty girl seeking male company would appear in the magazines who would offer to send any admirers a pair of her knickers as a keepsake until they actually met in person at some time in the future. To be a bit naughty the lass would offer to piss in the knickers before sending them out in the post.

For such an intmate love token the admirer would be asked to send twent quid (1000 baht), this was around 20 years ago and it explained that this money would cover her expenses and give her a bit of pin money. These girls could get good money but quite often the 'girl' was in fact just an enterprising fellow capitalising on the weakness of lonely, sex starved, lovelorn bachelors.

[David48]

Before the internet there were contact magazines. Contact was conducted through the postal service. A photo of a pretty girl seeking male company would appear in the magazines who would offer to send any admirers a pair of her knickers as a keepsake until they actually met in person at some time in the future. <snip>

I fell for that that once once!

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[BookMan]

Before the internet there were contact magazines. Contact was conducted through the postal service. A photo of a pretty girl seeking male company would appear in the magazines who would offer to send any admirers a pair of her knickers as a keepsake until they actually met in person at some time in the future. <snip>

I fell for that that once once!

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Mate, if you don't mind, could you send my undies back to me? I've been waiting a long time...

[kerryk]

I think you internet dating guys are missing an opportunity. You know you can visit womans prisons. Seems to me you get the same kind of experience. Google prison pen pals. That way at least you know where they are at night. And you get the same absentee relationship fun stuff.

[ebmzlm]

On the bright side after many westerners have been sucked into sending money over.

The lady in question has found herself a boyfriend of whom regularly sends her money and they will be meeting in a couple of weeks.

Every cloud and all that....