Video: Furore In Thai Parliament

[phiphidon]

If there's any brawling to do, Pheu Thai Party MP Karun is the one to call. I half-expected to see the Kung <deleted> Master coming off a top rope somewhere with a roundhouse kick at some point in the video.

Text removed (too many quotes problem)

epilogue:

He's still a Pheu Thai Party MP.

And if it gets really nasty, Democrat MP Khanchit Thabsuwan is pretty handy with a gun

In addition to being indicted for the premeditated murder of local politician Udorn Kraiwatnusorn in Samut Sakhon last month Khanchit might face additional charges after he undergoes examination in relation to new DNA-related evidence that has been found

Pheu Thai spokesman Prompong Nopparit said an open letter would be sent to Democrat leader Abhisit Vejjajiva asking him to order Khanchit to cooperate with police and the Parliament s directive telling him to surrender.

He said police would still want to examine a handgun owned by Khanchit and his vehicle both of which he has not handed over to police.

http://www.nationmul...s-30173588.html

epilogue: He's still a Democrat MP......................

With a topic on "furore in parliament" the reference to Pheu Thai Party MP Karun seems much more in line than your 'yes, what what about this Dem's MP charged for murder". Both still being MP doesn't really justify mentioning the last.

So, back on topic, reconciliation, whether you like it or not.

Sorry I understood it was the Democrat Party MPs first up on the Podium going for the Speaker, just a bit of balanced posting on here.

[Buchholz]

Yingluck Says Thai Majority Must Support Law to Free Brother

Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra backed her ruling party’s moves to pass a law that may exonerate her fugitive brother, saying a resolution of political turmoil since a 2006 coup will lead to stability.

“Reconciliation must be accepted by the majority of the people,” Yingluck said in an interview in Bangkok today, amid opposition to draft proposals that call for an amnesty for certain charges since the generals ousted her brother, Thaksin Shinawatra. “We got the clear mandate from the people.”

Thailand’s 500-member parliament represents the country’s 66 million people and is the best place to resolve differences that have spawned deadly street protests in recent years, Yingluck said, without endorsing any of the four specific proposals, all of which would clear her brother.

The comments represent the most public endorsement of her party’s efforts to pass a law clearing the way for Thaksin to return to Thailand after he fled a jail sentence in 2008.

Continues:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-31/yingluck-backs-party-s-bid-to-pass-thai-reconciliation-law.html

Bloomberg News - 48 minutes ago

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[Insight]

Yingluck Says Thai Majority Must Support Law to Free Brother

Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra backed her ruling party’s moves to pass a law that may exonerate her fugitive brother, saying a resolution of political turmoil since a 2006 coup will lead to stability.

“Reconciliation must be accepted by the majority of the people,” Yingluck said in an interview in Bangkok today, amid opposition to draft proposals that call for an amnesty for certain charges since the generals ousted her brother, Thaksin Shinawatra. “We got the clear mandate from the people.”

Thailand’s 500-member parliament represents the country’s 66 million people and is the best place to resolve differences that have spawned deadly street protests in recent years, Yingluck said, without endorsing any of the four specific proposals, all of which would clear her brother.

The comments represent the most public endorsement of her party’s efforts to pass a law clearing the way for Thaksin to return to Thailand after he fled a jail sentence in 2008.

Continues:

http://www.bloomberg...iation-law.html

Bloomberg News - 48 minutes ago

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Complete misinterpretation of the vote. Many people backed the Phua Thai govt for the introduction of the minimum wage and the free tablets for schools (amongst other goodies). To read outright as a vote to absolve Thaksin (the thief) is manipulative at best.

This lot are set on dragging the country to hell. Nobody in their right mind can possibly buy into this bill being for "reconciliation" now.

[gand]

Yingluck Says Thai Majority Must Support Law to Free Brother

Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra backed her ruling party’s moves to pass a law that may exonerate her fugitive brother, saying a resolution of political turmoil since a 2006 coup will lead to stability.

“Reconciliation must be accepted by the majority of the people,” Yingluck said in an interview in Bangkok today, amid opposition to draft proposals that call for an amnesty for certain charges since the generals ousted her brother, Thaksin Shinawatra. “We got the clear mandate from the people.”

Thailand’s 500-member parliament represents the country’s 66 million people and is the best place to resolve differences that have spawned deadly street protests in recent years, Yingluck said, without endorsing any of the four specific proposals, all of which would clear her brother.

The comments represent the most public endorsement of her party’s efforts to pass a law clearing the way for Thaksin to return to Thailand after he fled a jail sentence in 2008.

Continues:

http://www.bloomberg...iation-law.html

Bloomberg News - 48 minutes ago

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Is she tired of being a puppet?

[Buchholz]

Thaksin return talk excite Thai politics

Thailand's politics has heated up over a bill that could herald the return of ex-prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, while his former lieutenants prepare to re-enter the political arena as a five-year ban ends.

The party of current Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, Thaksin's sister, was hoping to introduce legislation in Parliament on Thursday that is seen as a possible first step toward providing amnesty for her fugitive brother's convictions and allowing him to return unencumbered to Thailand.

The prospect of Thaksin's return has galvanised his opponents inside and outside Parliament, threatening to reopen political wounds from a six-year struggle between Thaksin's opponents and supporters.

Continued:

http://www.skynews.com.au/topstories/article.aspx?id=755996&vId=

Sky News - May 31, 2012

[gand]

“Reconciliation must be accepted by the majority of the people,” Yingluck said in an interview in Bangkok today, amid opposition to draft proposals that call for an amnesty for certain charges since the generals ousted her brother, Thaksin Shinawatra. “We got the clear mandate from the people.”

"the majority of the people" did not vote for PTP, so where is the mandate? Put the amnesty for TS to a vote by the Thai people then and accept the majority vote, it should be a super majority required but I doubt an amnesty vote would even get a simple majority vote. Should they not allow the Thai people to vote on this amnesty, i fear Thailand will slide into civil war.

[gand]

Thaksin return talk excite Thai politics

Thailand's politics has heated up over a bill that could herald the return of ex-prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, while his former lieutenants prepare to re-enter the political arena as a five-year ban ends.

The party of current Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, Thaksin's sister, was hoping to introduce legislation in Parliament on Thursday that is seen as a possible first step toward providing amnesty for her fugitive brother's convictions and allowing him to return unencumbered to Thailand.

The prospect of Thaksin's return has galvanised his opponents inside and outside Parliament, threatening to reopen political wounds from a six-year struggle between Thaksin's opponents and supporters.

Continued:

http://www.skynews.c...?id=755996&vId=

Sky News - May 31, 2012

Return to face additional charges not covered by this bill one would hope.

[Nisa]

What are the real odds / chance of this passing?

IMO opinion ... it is a done deal .... he will be home soon

Those who have fought to keep him out better be on the

first plane to Dubai when he lands in Thailand ...

Those who oppose him in any way ... run ti the hills ..

run for your life ....

Lets hope you are wrong and these folks actually have just one ounce of concern more for the country than they do for a single man who serves no purpose but driving a wedge between the people of Thailand. And although no doubt some will run for the hills, many others will take to the street. But regardless if it passes and he returns or not, these continued actions to bring him back are serving an opposite purpose than that of reconciliation.

[Babcock]

“Reconciliation must be accepted by the majority of the people,” Yingluck said in an interview in Bangkok today, amid opposition to draft proposals that call for an amnesty for certain charges since the generals ousted her brother, Thaksin Shinawatra. “We got the clear mandate from the people.”

"the majority of the people" did not vote for PTP, so where is the mandate? Put the amnesty for TS to a vote by the Thai people then and accept the majority vote, it should be a super majority required but I doubt an amnesty vote would even get a simple majority vote. Should they not allow the Thai people to vote on this amnesty, i fear Thailand will slide into civil war.

She has a parliamentary majority no less. The people decided.

These bills going through parliament

Are so a committee made up of representatives from all over the country and all parties can seek to reform the army sponsored rewrite of the 1997 constitution

[Buchholz]

Pheu Thai MP Demands Apology from Opposition Lawmakers

A Pheu Thai MP has demanded leaders of the Democrat Party to apologize to the house speaker for yesterday's commotion in order to maintain the good image of Thai politics.

Pheu Thai MP Paijit Sriworakhan of Nakhon Phanom Province, who is also the chairman of the committee on House affairs, has commented on yesterday's commotion, saying that he has never seen such a thing before in Thai politics and that the incident has severely damaged the image of the legislative branch.

Paijit said that it has not yet been decided on how to deal with what happened, while urging all sides to respect the rules and the parliamentary protocols.

He has also demanded the leaders of the Democrat Party to make an apology to maintain the Thai Parliament's good image.

In any case, Paijit was hoping that the disorder will not happen again and that the Democrat Party will be more effective in controlling their lawmakers.

Yesterday's commotion at the parliament is currently being examined.

-- Tan Network 2012-05-31

[Buchholz]

"Reconciliation must be accepted by the majority of the people," Yingluck said in an interview in Bangkok today, amid opposition to draft proposals that call for an amnesty for certain charges since the generals ousted her brother, Thaksin Shinawatra. "We got the clear mandate from the people."

"the majority of the people" did not vote for PTP, so where is the mandate? Put the amnesty for TS to a vote by the Thai people then and accept the majority vote, it should be a super majority required but I doubt an amnesty vote would even get a simple majority vote. Should they not allow the Thai people to vote on this amnesty, i fear Thailand will slide into civil war.

She has a parliamentary majority no less. The people decided.

These bills going through parliament

Are so a committee made up of representatives from all over the country and all parties can seek to reform the army sponsored rewrite of the 1997 constitution

Do you realize that this reconciliation bill they are fighting over is not the PTP constitution rewrite you speak of?

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Edited May 31, 2012 by Buchholz

[Skywalker69]

Chaos reigns? Yingluck will sort out if her driver can remember where to go.

He must know as Yingluck dosn´t.

[Payboy]

Would be a good time for Abhisit to show some leadership though.

Cannot, he's too busy slamming, lashing out, warning, cautioning, etc. etc.

[Buchholz]

Would be a good time for Abhisit to show some leadership though.

Cannot, he's too busy slamming, lashing out, warning, cautioning, etc. etc.

The former PM is attending the Parliamentary proceedings, the current PM is not.

Before the brouhaha started, he was urging the House Speaker to postpone the debate on the reconciliation bill for the time being, saying that it should be vetted by the House committees beforehand.

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[GentlemanJim]

Would be a good time for Abhisit to show some leadership though.

Cannot, he's too busy slamming, lashing out, warning, cautioning, etc. etc.

The former PM is attending the Parliamentary proceedings, the current PM is not.

Before the brouhaha started, he was urging the House Speaker to postpone the debate on the reconciliation bill for the time being, saying that it should be vetted by the House committees beforehand.

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So where is the PM today? Is she 'resting' after her arduous trip to Oz?

[Payboy]

Would be a good time for Abhisit to show some leadership though.

Cannot, he's too busy slamming, lashing out, warning, cautioning, etc. etc.

The former PM is attending the Parliamentary proceedings, the current PM is not.

Before the brouhaha started, he was urging the House Speaker to postpone the debate on the reconciliation bill for the time being, saying that it should be vetted by the House committees beforehand.

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Hmmm, let's see now, would that fall under cautioning or warning?

[ginjag]

If you want real leadership, get our lady from Burma to come and run the job. She doesn't need to pay billions out to vote for her, she wouldn't shirk her responsibilities to parliament, she would attend. This lady is loved -genuine love for all to see unlike the Family in command here, who pay for love.

The enthusiasm shown to her is heartwarming her charm is seen as being genuine. It is also noted the lady isn't spending time in Burberry shops and the like lavishly spending about the same as a Philipino from not long ago. The Thai people could do with a breath of fresh air, she is a dream for them here.

[Buchholz]

Cannot, he's too busy slamming, lashing out, warning, cautioning, etc. etc.

The former PM is attending the Parliamentary proceedings, the current PM is not.

Before the brouhaha started, he was urging the House Speaker to postpone the debate on the reconciliation bill for the time being, saying that it should be vetted by the House committees beforehand.

So where is the PM today? Is she 'resting' after her arduous trip to Oz?

she's speaking elsewhere

Yingluck Boasts Economy Still Strong

http://www.thaivisa....a/#entry5348049

Edited May 31, 2012 by Buchholz

[Orac]

If you want real leadership, get our lady from Burma to come and run the job. She doesn't need to pay billions out to vote for her, she wouldn't shirk her responsibilities to parliament, she would attend. This lady is loved -genuine love for all to see unlike the Family in command here, who pay for love.

The enthusiasm shown to her is heartwarming her charm is seen as being genuine. It is also noted the lady isn't spending time in Burberry shops and the like lavishly spending about the same as a Philipino from not long ago. The Thai people could do with a breath of fresh air, she is a dream for them here.

Interesting suggestion. It would really show how little is thought of Thai politicians if the people voted someone from Burma as PM if it were legal of course.

[Buchholz]

Would be a good time for Abhisit to show some leadership though.

Cannot, he's too busy slamming, lashing out, warning, cautioning, etc. etc.

The former PM is attending the Parliamentary proceedings, the current PM is not.

Before the brouhaha started, he was urging the House Speaker to postpone the debate on the reconciliation bill for the time being, saying that it should be vetted by the House committees beforehand.

Hmmm, let's see now, would that fall under cautioning or warning?

I would categorize it as urging reasonableness.

Perhaps if Yingluck was present, she could debate the opposite in Parliament.

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Edited May 31, 2012 by Buchholz

[Skywalker69]

Would be a good time for Abhisit to show some leadership though.

Cannot, he's too busy slamming, lashing out, warning, cautioning, etc. etc.

The former PM is attending the Parliamentary proceedings, the current PM is not.

Before the brouhaha started, he was urging the House Speaker to postpone the debate on the reconciliation bill for the time being, saying that it should be vetted by the House committees beforehand.

.

So where is the PM today? Is she 'resting' after her arduous trip to Oz?

Any day now she will find her way to Parlament.

[Payboy]

Hmmm, let's see now, would that fall under cautioning or warning?

I would categorize it as urging reasonableness.

Perhaps if Yingluck was present, she could debate the opposite in Parliament.

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Yeah, "but / if" Yingluck.

[ginjag]

Isn't Yingluck at the Forum in Bkk, as she is to make a speech, but it will not be in English. She would be an embarrassed, because our Burma gal is there also and will be addressing the Forum

[wolf5370]

If there's any brawling to do, Pheu Thai Party MP Karun is the one to call. I half-expected to see the Kung <deleted> Master coming off a top rope somewhere with a roundhouse kick at some point in the video.

Text removed (too many quotes problem)

epilogue:

He's still a Pheu Thai Party MP.

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And if it gets really nasty, Democrat MP Khanchit Thabsuwan is pretty handy with a gun

In addition to being indicted for the premeditated murder of local politician Udorn Kraiwatnusorn in Samut Sakhon last month Khanchit might face additional charges after he undergoes examination in relation to new DNA-related evidence that has been found

Pheu Thai spokesman Prompong Nopparit said an open letter would be sent to Democrat leader Abhisit Vejjajiva asking him to order Khanchit to cooperate with police and the Parliament s directive telling him to surrender.

He said police would still want to examine a handgun owned by Khanchit and his vehicle both of which he has not handed over to police.

http://www.nationmul...s-30173588.html

epilogue: He's still a Democrat MP......................

If guilty, neither rmen deserve the trust of the people, and thus their jobs. The difference (other than scale, between attempted kicking/threatened kicking and multiple murder aside!) is that the first is guilty as he stands and the second is not (legally) as yet. Of course, they should be investigated and should be ordered to comply with police as necessary. They should, assuming guilt, be opffered resign or dissmiss - end of story.

[silsburyhill]

Please remember Thailand is a very young democracy only since around 1939, there is a lot to learn yet and a lot of old habits to get rid of. Countries take a bit of time to become mature. The european countries England and France have been at this a bit longer than thailand and along with the US they still donot always get it right on ocassion.

Please remember Thailand is a very young democracy only since around 1939, there is a lot to learn yet and a lot of old habits to get rid of. Countries take a bit of time to become mature. The european countries England and France have been at this a bit longer than thailand and along with the US they still donot always get it right on ocassion.

I really don't believe you can use that old argument in 2012/2055. The town crier couldn't possibly have surpassed the huge amount of information available via mass media/the internet. Edited May 31, 2012 by silsburyhill

[GentlemanJim]

I think that for the Thaksin lovers something needs to be made quite clear. Whilst they defend and apologise for criminals and would support an amnesty for their dearly beloved and his thugs, Jatuporn, Arisman etc etc, they seem to think that those of us who dislike Thaksin would protect Democrat criminals in the same way. Nothing could be further from the truth. As far as I am concerned ANY MP who has broken the law (and many have done so seriously), should be tried by a court of law and if found guilty punished to the full extent of the law and lose their position of privilege. I don't care what party they are from. When MP's make themselves above the law of the land then we are definitely sliding down the slippery slope. Yingluck said today she had a mandate from the people. The people who voted for her did not give her that mandate to make her priority putting MP's above the law. The amnesty seems to have been given more priority than the constitution, and to a nation the constitution should be more important, and neither amnesty or constitution should be even be considered before the Government have tended to the more immediate problems affecting the country and its people.

[Ron19]

Is this the Thai parliment or the parliment of Taiwan where this sort of thing happens on a regular basis?

[Jobiwankenobi]

Children. Parliament should be renamed "House of Me First and the Gimme Gimme's"

[gand]

This is not reconciliation, this is selling out of the Thai people, this is the first salvo in a potential civil war.

[chuang]

those abhisit dem mps are really showing themselves as a bad and desperate bunch.

Worse then their yellow shirt street mob.

storming the speaker like a wild bunch of animals, what ever next?

Abhisit said the democrats will not apologise....what an arrogrant brat...