Ozone Pool?

[naammanow]

Surprised that nobody has as yet responded to my query. My pool builder is suggesting an ozone system, above the salt/chlorine system. Do any members on TV have an ozone system installed? Any feedback will be greatly appreciated. I am worried that the high temperautres in Thailand make it almost ineffective. Thanks, J.

[SantiSuk]

Pretty new approach I think. Not surprising noone has experience.

Good discipline shown by TV members not rushing to the obvious cynical response - another way for the pool industry to extort money from users.

Most of us are probably quite happy chucking chlorine and acid in twice a week! If you think you can find a reliable pool boy who can cope with the technology when you are away ( ) then go for it.

[fdimike]

We had a spa (hot tub) in Florida which used ozone quite effectively. There's no maintenance other than to replace the bulb when it burns out. Of course a spa is nothing like a pool so i'm not sure just how well ozone will work in that situation. We have been operating a large salt water pool at our house in Udon Thani without much hastle. We have 2 Poolrite Surechlor 4000 chlorinators hooked up to 2 seperate Hayward DE filters and are quite pleased with the results. I backwash the filters about once a year and regular maintenance is a breeze once you have the water stabilized and add cyanauric acid to protect loss of the chlorine from the sun. The cyanauric acid does not dissapate, is not filterable and only needs replacing when you dump excess water out of the pool during the rainy season. The only thing I add is a bit of hydrochloric acid weekly to maintain the ph. No chlorine odor no dry skin, no red eyes and no harmful effects to dyed hair and very easy on childrens skin as well.

This seems to me the best system short of a natural pool using plants fish etc for filtration.

[bkk_mike]

I didn't think the ozone type was available in Thailand yet.

Wouldn't mind knowing who the pool builder is as I'm thinking of getting a pool, and had heard they need less maintenance than even the saltwater pools (which would be important as we'd be away most of the year).

[negreanu]

We are using a ozone and reduced chlorine in our pool. So defo available in TH.

[mausbiber]

... We have been operating a large salt water pool at our house in Udon Thani without much hastle. We have 2 Poolrite Surechlor 4000 chlorinators hooked up to 2 seperate Hayward DE filters and are quite pleased with the results. I backwash the filters about once a year and regular maintenance is a breeze once you have the water stabilized and add cyanauric acid to protect loss of the chlorine from the sun. The cyanauric acid does not dissapate, is not filterable and only needs replacing when you dump excess water out of the pool during the rainy season. The only thing I add is a bit of hydrochloric acid weekly to maintain the ph. No chlorine odor no dry skin, no red eyes and no harmful effects to dyed hair and very easy on childrens skin as well.

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I am ready to order the construction of a saltwater-pool. I was hoping to minimize the maintenance of the pool.

Now I see you are recommending the additional use of cyanuric acid (spelling?).

I am not an expert in chemistry. I looked into the German version of Wikipedia regarding cyanuric acid (=Cyanursäure)http://de.wikipedia....ki/Cyanursäure.

In a short way it says that with higher concentration of this acid the disinfection power of chlorine will be limited.

It may be caused by my limited knowledge of the English language (or chemistry or both) but does it mean using this acid in a pool there is a higher chance of getting more germs in the water?

P.S. I also checked the English Wikipedia. The explanation there supports the statement of fdimike. Does anybody know the difference between the German and the English cyanuric acid?

[Naam]

I am ready to order the construction of a saltwater-pool. I was hoping to minimize the maintenance of the pool.

Now I see you are recommending the additional use of cyanuric acid (spelling?).

I am not an expert in chemistry. I looked into the German version of Wikipedia regarding cyanuric acid (=Cyanursäure)http://de.wikipedia....ki/Cyanursäure.

In a short way it says that with higher concentration of this acid the disinfection power of chlorine will be limited.

It may be caused by my limited knowledge of the English language (or chemistry or both) but does it mean using this acid in a pool there is a higher chance of getting more germs in the water?

P.S. I also checked the English Wikipedia. The explanation there supports the statement of fdimike. Does anybody know the difference between the German and the English cyanuric acid?

the only difference that exists is that in Thailand pool experts do know that cyanuric acid stabilises the nominal chlorine content but don't know that it lowers its bactericidal effect. at least that's what i learned from a Florida pool shop where i had my pool water tested regularly. when talking to some "learned" pool guys it turned out that some were claiming that the afore-mentioned effect is compensated by cyanuric acid but i could not find any information on this.

[Pacificperson]

I would read up on the health effects of ozone and also check on how easily it moves from the water into the air before I installed such a system. I visited an aquaculture facility in Kaohsiung a few years ago where they had installed and removed an ozone system for their fish water. It seemed as if one of their employees had suffered serious lung damage from the ambient ozone levels in his working area.

[mausbiber]

the only difference that exists is that in Thailand pool experts do know that cyanuric acid stabilises the nominal chlorine content but don't know that it lowers its bactericidal effect. at least that's what i learned from a Florida pool shop where i had my pool water tested regularly. when talking to some "learned" pool guys it turned out that some were claiming that the afore-mentioned effect is compensated by cyanuric acid but i could not find any information on this.

Naam thank you for this information .

It seems that not only the figures of statistics have a wide range of interpretation.

I think I will go your way first without cyanuric acid. if there is not enough chlorine for disinfection in the water the saltinator must work harder / longer.

[Naam]

the only difference that exists is that in Thailand pool experts do know that cyanuric acid stabilises the nominal chlorine content but don't know that it lowers its bactericidal effect. at least that's what i learned from a Florida pool shop where i had my pool water tested regularly. when talking to some "learned" pool guys it turned out that some were claiming that the afore-mentioned effect is compensated by cyanuric acid but i could not find any information on this.

Naam thank you for this information .

It seems that not only the figures of statistics have a wide range of interpretation.

I think I will go your way first without cyanuric acid. if there is not enough chlorine for disinfection in the water the saltinator must work harder / longer.

working "harder/longer" is the crux of a system that generates chlorine by electrolysis which in many cases requires unnecessary long pumping cycles and therefore waste energy.

and then there are the entertaining fairy tales of "salt pool" owners who rave about "no chlorine smell, no red eyes, easy on the skin" which proves their ignorance and verify the claim that "faith can move mountains"