Lady Gaga In Hot Water Over Bangkok Concert

[KhunMoo]

She was hired to do a concert because she IS controversial. That's what she is all about. They got what they wanted.

Err, she wasn't "hired" to do anything.

Err... she was hired... this was not a benefit concert.

No she wasn't. Doesn't matter whether it was a benefit or paid entry. It was HER show, not put on by some promoter where she was paid an appearance fee. Unless you are saying she hired herself to put on the show. Capiche?

You are dead wrong. She IS HIRED, and its quite simple the promoters in the different city's that makes a BID, and then her management try to fit it all together. The local promoters supplies all stagehands, and sitecrew. StageCO that builds the stage supplies, the steel crew and the riggers. On top of that local riggers are hired. Gaga's OWN production is not more than 10 technicians, as there is no truck drives on this part of the tour + all her personal assistants, dancers, hairdressers and crap.

I was part of her production in Scandinavia, and hundreds like it before that - so yes, I do know....Capiche...?

[charmonman]

The culture ministry is, of course, once again being ridiculous.

However, I despise Lady Gaga, and they never should have allowed her into the country in the first place as it could easily have been predicted that she would pull some cheap gimmick to promote fake outrage so that she could keep her fake publicity machine going. The average tourist is told that they should respect the culture of the countries they visit, and try not to behave in a manner that is offensive to the locals. Common rules of behaviour and common courtesy obviously don't apply to cheap whores like Lady Gaga.

I wish Thailand would get some decent international artists to tour here - maybe someone who actually has something worthwhile to say. Some decent rock and roll perhaps instead of idiotic pop acts. I hope to hell Lady Gaga never returns.

By the way what the F%^k is a "lady market"?

[Jingthing]

I reckon if there was a viable market for more culturally "uplifting" acts, we'd have them here.

[osiboy]

'When in Rome, do as the Romans do"

I am going to have to go against the flow here. All the Thai's want is respect to be shown against their monarchy, buddhist religion and cultural/national issues. They do go too far and are unnecessarily paranoid about some things but there is nothing wrong about being a proud patriotic nation!!!

what is it exactly that the thais are so proud and patriotic about ? ... their renowned police force, their sex industry, the flaunting of copyright laws , the education system , the welfare state ,their inventions , great world leaders , the sexism, xenophobia, the absent irrisponsibble fathers, teenage abortion rates,teenage pregnancy rates , the taking back of lands they lost to burma, their role in WWII, corruption , their music , the quality of TV programms, the yaba culture , the hygien standards , their parenting skills, their driving standards , jetsi scams, land scams ,a health system that treats only the rich , health & safety ,double charging,pornography, phedophiles,incest ??????................ohhhhhh,...they must be sooooooo proud ! , and what a cheeky bitch that gaga is !

Edited June 15, 2012 by osiboy

[catweazle]

I have a good question to get this Gaga story going and to keep officials busy:

After so many foreigners being arrested and fined in Chiang Mai not a long time ago for simply jamming f.o.c. in some night joints just for the fun of it without making a single Baht, just their pure enthusiasm and love for making music in mind... and then officials coming up with the stupid invention of "Jam Permits"... and after all the hardship this all caused not only to avid foreign musicians who just took out their guitar, banjo or sax to jam with some Thais in the "Land of the Free" during their holidays, but the actual night joint owners who were put into miscredit too and the resulting setback for tourism and nightlife especially in northern Thailand...

Just taking all this into account - hhhhhmmmm... QUESTION: Did Lady Gaga have her proper jam permit at hand? Or did she have a proper work permit and B visa since she made a $#itload of cash with her performance in the "City of Angels"? I guess NO is the answer to both questions! Then the next question would be: Why do Thai officials have to destroy tourism, destroy visitors' confidence in this country, destroy fun and cultural musical exchange by arresting and fining harmless tourist musicians who jam in Thailand for free just because they simply love music? Wouldn't the manpower and working hours of such officials been better spend on preventing scams like the "boiler room"sceme, or checking into Thai and foreign operated mafia structures in Pattaya, Phuket, Samui and other tourist hot spots or should they not better be transferred to Jala since they severely damage tourism in Thailand by picking raisins instead of catching real crooks?

Isn't all of that pretty much f&%$ed up and isn't that even more bizarre than anything Lady Gaga could possibly do with any national flag of any country in private, on photo, video, or TV (my imagination here strays very far, is very versatile and luckily private ) - do I need an "imagination permit" now?

Back to my question: Will MIss Gaga be fined for jamming without a jam permit or even working without a proper work permit and B visa within Thailand? Ever thought of that? Why do small people have to eat $#it in this country for any little thing they might do wrong while the big ones walk unharmed regardless of whatever their "crime" might be?

This is not against Lady Gaga since I believe that she is a very gifted musician, songwriter and composer (something most of you might be unaware of - she's a selfmade star, not a cartoon or instant boy/girl band act like for example Britney Spears), but I want to show that there are much more important issues to be discussed if Thailand as a "Free" country ever wants to be taken seriously.

Give artists and cultural exchange in general a bit more slack and tolerance - Thanks and good night!

[KeyserSoze01]

Look silly people....does it matter? She is a singer (apparently) and nothing more!

It's ok as I'm feeling a wee bit pedantic today and I have my silly hat on.

I don't know that I would characterize someone with a net worth somewhere north of $150,000,000 USD and pulled in $90,000,000 USD in 2011 alone as just a singer. But to each his own.

[KeyserSoze01]

Decadent piece of trash....worse of all, this thing is influencing others, especially women that may regard her stage antics and behavior as acceptable. Spreading her social-perverted disease throughout the populace, all the while decent folk have to deal with the aftermath..scumbag. Go back to the depths of Hades that spawned you.

Let me guess, Mormon?

[Jingthing]

I think she's a good pop singer though I'm hardly a fan. I do admire her political activism for equal rights for sexual minorities. Having such popular celebs working on those issues is definitely helpful, not only in the US but internationally.

[KeyserSoze01]

Err... she was hired... this was not a benefit concert.

No she wasn't. Doesn't matter whether it was a benefit or paid entry. It was HER show, not put on by some promoter where she was paid an appearance fee. Unless you are saying she hired herself to put on the show. Capiche?

You are dead wrong. She IS HIRED, and its quite simple the promoters in the different city's that makes a BID, and then her management try to fit it all together. The local promoters supplies all stagehands, and sitecrew. StageCO that builds the stage supplies, the steel crew and the riggers. On top of that local riggers are hired. Gaga's OWN production is not more than 10 technicians, as there is no truck drives on this part of the tour + all her personal assistants, dancers, hairdressers and crap.

I was part of her production in Scandinavia, and hundreds like it before that - so yes, I do know....Capiche...?

I stand corrected if that's the SOP on the LG tour, but it is not the defacto standard for touring groups and yes, I have experience in this arena also. Let's just agree to disagree and move on. Entiendo?

[Richmeister]

Not bothered at all.

[charmonman]

I reckon if there was a viable market for more culturally "uplifting" acts, we'd have them here.

You are correct. It is unfortunate that the Thai public slavishly follows the latest trendy crap from other countries (Lady Gaga, K-Pop), and that instead of developing their own unique styles, most Thai artists just do cheap imitations of such things. Years ago the most popular musicians in Thailand were Luuk Thuung acts, who were uniquely Thai and genuinely talented. Now all the young people just want to listen to cheap over-produced crap.

[Nisa]

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music-arts/lady-gaga-criticized-thai-ministry-inappropriate-country-flag-concert-article-1.1096358

If indeed the flag is touching the ground she owes an apology and explanation she didn't mean disrespect. Never purposely been one of those flag nuts and could care less if people used my country flag as toilet paper but I do understand how some people hold the symbol near and dear.

[osiboy]

I'm sure she's quaking in her boots over this one.

I take it this brilliant move is for DOMESTIC political consumption. Oh well ...

She'll be arrested next time she enters Thailand.

But released because it was all a misunderstanding when a US Fleet carrier arrives off Sattahip. A replay of 1941 with a different country playing the lead role. Sorry, I was only fantasising.

Seeing how insensitive Thais are about the display of the swastika I wonder how they would react if farangs wandered around draped with the Rising Sun?

half the population have no idea whos flag it was , the other half probably believe they kicked the japs out single handed ,........ they only learn about thailand in a positive light , ...ignorance is bliss !

[osiboy]

Decadent piece of trash....worse of all, this thing is influencing others, especially women that may regard her stage antics and behavior as acceptable. Spreading her social-perverted disease throughout the populace, all the while decent folk have to deal with the aftermath..scumbag. Go back to the depths of Hades that spawned you.

yeah right,...... patpong, nana ,cowboy and pattaya are just a myth created by farangs of course !

[gand]

http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.1096358

If indeed the flag is touching the ground she owes an apology and explanation she didn't mean disrespect. Never purposely been one of those flag nuts and could care less if people used my country flag as toilet paper but I do understand how some people hold the symbol near and dear.

The flag on Lady Gaga's motorcycle is NOT the Thai flag, The flag she used has 3 stripes only, with the top one blue, then white, then red, not even close to being the Thai flag.

Thailand Flag

http://www.worldatla...ia/thailand.htm

[osiboy]

http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.1096358

If indeed the flag is touching the ground she owes an apology and explanation she didn't mean disrespect. Never purposely been one of those flag nuts and could care less if people used my country flag as toilet paper but I do understand how some people hold the symbol near and dear.

yeah,........they are known as fanatics , and most of them refere to us " westerners" as infidels

Edited June 15, 2012 by osiboy

[Nisa]

Decadent piece of trash....worse of all, this thing is influencing others, especially women that may regard her stage antics and behavior as acceptable. Spreading her social-perverted disease throughout the populace, all the while decent folk have to deal with the aftermath..scumbag. Go back to the depths of Hades that spawned you.

yeah right,...... patpong, nana ,cowboy and pattaya are just a myth created by farangs of course !

They may not be a myth but they were created by farangs ;-)

[Nisa]

http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.1096358

If indeed the flag is touching the ground she owes an apology and explanation she didn't mean disrespect. Never purposely been one of those flag nuts and could care less if people used my country flag as toilet paper but I do understand how some people hold the symbol near and dear.

yeah,........they are known as fanatics , and most of them refere to us " westerners" as infidels

I take it you have not spent much time in the US .. very extreme views of disrespecting the flag there. It is right up there with abortion and the death penalty.

[Pesche]

After 20 years living here,

I am still "amazed" about the "minister of whatever" rises his "outragement" about the reality!!

I do NOT like lady gaga - However she IS an ARTIST!

Artistis ARE provoking and are EXPRESSING FREE state of mind > Free interpretation, freedom to express...

50'000 fans enjoied the performance and now 1 (ONE) Minister complains abut "inapropriate behaviour" !!!

Do these "Ministers" UNDERSTAND what Culture/freedom of expression is?

I still remember when Bill Clinton invited Khun Chuan motivating about "Globalization" and...

He humbly answerd: Oh, we are NOT ready for this!

True it is Thailand, still and ONLY takes care of it's IMAGE

Frankly Pesche

[osiboy]

a swastika would have been fine to use , why did'nt she think of that one , thais would have loved it !!

[Nisa]

http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.1096358

If indeed the flag is touching the ground she owes an apology and explanation she didn't mean disrespect. Never purposely been one of those flag nuts and could care less if people used my country flag as toilet paper but I do understand how some people hold the symbol near and dear.

The flag on Lady Gaga's motorcycle is NOT the Thai flag, The flag she used has 3 stripes only, with the top one blue, then white, then red, not even close to being the Thai flag.

Thailand Flag

http://www.worldatla...ia/thailand.htm

The link I provided states this was from a concert in Taiwan. Realize, they don't change the act for every show .. just the local effects such as which flag they use. It is safe to assume this is how the Thai flag was also carried.

Edited June 15, 2012 by Nisa

[Thaddeus]

Decadent piece of trash....worse of all, this thing is influencing others, especially women that may regard her stage antics and behavior as acceptable. Spreading her social-perverted disease throughout the populace, all the while decent folk have to deal with the aftermath..scumbag. Go back to the depths of Hades that spawned you.

Let me guess, Mormon?

One too many m's.

[gand]

http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.1096358

If indeed the flag is touching the ground she owes an apology and explanation she didn't mean disrespect. Never purposely been one of those flag nuts and could care less if people used my country flag as toilet paper but I do understand how some people hold the symbol near and dear.

yeah,........they are known as fanatics , and most of them refere to us " westerners" as infidels

I take it you have not spent much time in the US .. very extreme views of disrespecting the flag there. It is right up there with abortion and the death penalty.

The USA Supreme Court (SCOTUS) has ruled that burning the USA flag is freedom of speech.

[gand]

http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.1096358

If indeed the flag is touching the ground she owes an apology and explanation she didn't mean disrespect. Never purposely been one of those flag nuts and could care less if people used my country flag as toilet paper but I do understand how some people hold the symbol near and dear.

The flag on Lady Gaga's motorcycle is NOT the Thai flag, The flag she used has 3 stripes only, with the top one blue, then white, then red, not even close to being the Thai flag.

Thailand Flag

http://www.worldatla...ia/thailand.htm

The link I provided states this was from a concert in Taiwan. Realize, they don't change the act for every show .. just the local effects such as which flag they use. It is safe to assume this is how the Thai flag was also carried.

Have a look for yourself. It is as plain to see as her cheeks.

Lady Gaga Live in Bangkok 2012 Part 10 (HD)

[Thaddeus]

http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.1096358

If indeed the flag is touching the ground she owes an apology and explanation she didn't mean disrespect. Never purposely been one of those flag nuts and could care less if people used my country flag as toilet paper but I do understand how some people hold the symbol near and dear.

So, the heaving cleavage and wide spread legs in a revealing costume tantamount to holding up a sign saying "get it here" are Ok then....... but the flag touched the ground.... horror of horrors, hang her.

[Nisa]

http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.1096358

If indeed the flag is touching the ground she owes an apology and explanation she didn't mean disrespect. Never purposely been one of those flag nuts and could care less if people used my country flag as toilet paper but I do understand how some people hold the symbol near and dear.

yeah,........they are known as fanatics , and most of them refere to us " westerners" as infidels

I take it you have not spent much time in the US .. very extreme views of disrespecting the flag there. It is right up there with abortion and the death penalty.

The USA Supreme Court (SCOTUS) has ruled that burning the USA flag is freedom of speech.

Any other past rulings from the US Supreme Court you want to mention ... maybe regarding the death penalty or abortion?

Edited June 15, 2012 by Nisa

[osiboy]

Decadent piece of trash....worse of all, this thing is influencing others, especially women that may regard her stage antics and behavior as acceptable. Spreading her social-perverted disease throughout the populace, all the while decent folk have to deal with the aftermath..scumbag. Go back to the depths of Hades that spawned you.

yeah right,...... patpong, nana ,cowboy and pattaya are just a myth created by farangs of course !

They may not be a myth but they were created by farangs ;-)

noooooooo,....maybe created FOR farangs ,........i dont think there were many farang hookers servicing the US marines during the 60-70s,...... hookers have always been used more by thais than farang , ......and have been part of thai culture for hundreds years , ...... a few hundred years ago , if you were a guest staying in a thai houshold you would be offered the oldest daughter for the night , pity they stopped that !, i'ts also known the french navy were well serviced here , dont think they were paying other farangs either

Edited June 15, 2012 by osiboy

[Thaddeus]

Any other past rulings from the US Supreme Court you want to mention ... maybe regarding the death penalty or abortion?

A pitiful attempt at deflection.

[Nisa]

I wonder when Lady Gaga is going to start her own book instead of copying pages Madonna?

It seems everyone of her controversies already has been covered by Madonna.

[Nisa]

I take it you have not spent much time in the US .. very extreme views of disrespecting the flag there. It is right up there with abortion and the death penalty.

The USA Supreme Court (SCOTUS) has ruled that burning the USA flag is freedom of speech.

Any other past rulings from the US Supreme Court you want to mention ... maybe regarding the death penalty or abortion?

A pitiful attempt at deflection.

Do you know what "deflection" means? If so, what is it I am deflecting? I think the word to better describe my reply was sarcasm because what I stated previous was factual (not opinion) and nothing I want to deflect from. My second sarcastic (you call deflection) comment was to show that the posters comments were in confirmation of my first comment.

The only real question is why you chose to accuse me of something silly like this in replies that had nothing to do with you or that you were a part of. Are you upset because I didn't respond to your post about cleavage as in my mind it wasn't worth a reply?