webfact Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Reds to rally at court for ruling on Jatuporn The Nation BANGKOK: -- Red shirts will stage a rally today in front of the Criminal Court, which is due to decide whether to revoke the bail of red-shirt leader Jatuporn Promphan. Phaholyothin police chief Col Chatree Kanchanapakdee said yesterday some red shirts had already put up tents in front of the court on Ratchadapisek Road to wait for the ruling. The Criminal Court is due to make a decision on a request by the Constitution Court to have Jatuporn's bail revoked. Chatree said police would be deployed to maintain security at the court due to the rally. Constitution Court judges sought revocation of Jatuporn's bail after comments by the former Pheu Thai MP during a red-shirt rally in front of Parliament were interpreted as intimidatory. Jatuporn made the speech after the Constitution Court ruled on May 18 to disqualify him as a Pheu Thai MP. Worawut Wichaidit, a spokesman for the red-shirt movement, said yesterday that red-shirt leaders and supporters would gather at the court today to provide moral support for Jatuporn. Worawut said the rally was not an attempt to pressure the court to retain bail for Jatuporn. They simply wanted to provide support for Jatuporn, he said. The spokesman said red-shirt leaders did not expect the court to revoke Jatuporn's bail and had not prepared any measures in the event his bail is revoked. He said red shirts would be asked to behave during the rally, otherwise they could be accused of contempt of court. Jatuporn has threatened to stage a hunger strike in prison if his bail is revoked. In another development, the Democrat Party vowed yesterday to organise political activities in provinces considered to red-shirt strongholds, although Democrat leader Abhisit Vejjajiva encountered strong protests by red shirts in Chiang Mai on Friday. On Friday, Abhisit visited Chiang Mai to follow up on the Democrats' policy to push for the issuing of community land deeds for the poor in the north. Democrat spokesman Chavanond Intarakomalyasut said yesterday that red shirts hounded Abhisit from the airport to a hotel where the Democrats held a seminar. Some even tried to block Abhisit's car with their vehicles. Chavanond said the Democrats were not worried by the incident but would continue to visit "red" provinces. The government should stop using red shirts as tool to block the Democrats from carrying out political activities, he said. Also yesterday, Abac Poll gave results of its latest opinion survey, which found that most people felt conflicts over charter amendments were not over yet. Abac Poll said the survey was carried out among 2,144 residents in 17 provinces from July 16-21. It found about 80 per cent of the respondents believed that conflicts over changes to the charter were not over. Some 53 per cent of respondents believed courts would help reduce the conflicts, but 60 per cent did not believe that Parliament, the prime minister, or the armed forces would be able to lessen the conflicts. Abac Poll said 63 per cent of respondents believed turmoil and conflict over charter amendments would not end even after a national referendum, while 37 per cent believed the problems would end after a referendum. The survey also found 66 per cent of respondents still support Yingluck Shinawatra as PM. -- The Nation 2012-07-23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharp Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Reds to rally at court for ruling on JatupornThe Nation BANGKOK: -- Red shirts will stage a rally today in front of the Criminal Court, which is due to decide whether to revoke the bail of red-shirt leader Jatuporn Promphan. Phaholyothin police chief Col Chatree Kanchanapakdee said yesterday some red shirts had already put up tents in front of the court on Ratchadapisek Road to wait for the ruling. The Criminal Court is due to make a decision on a request by the Constitution Court to have Jatuporn's bail revoked. Chatree said police would be deployed to maintain security at the court due to the rally. Constitution Court judges sought revocation of Jatuporn's bail after comments by the former Pheu Thai MP during a red-shirt rally in front of Parliament were interpreted as intimidatory. Jatuporn made the speech after the Constitution Court ruled on May 18 to disqualify him as a Pheu Thai MP. Worawut Wichaidit, a spokesman for the red-shirt movement, said yesterday that red-shirt leaders and supporters would gather at the court today to provide moral support for Jatuporn. Worawut said the rally was not an attempt to pressure the court to retain bail for Jatuporn. They simply wanted to provide support for Jatuporn, he said. The spokesman said red-shirt leaders did not expect the court to revoke Jatuporn's bail and had not prepared any measures in the event his bail is revoked. He said red shirts would be asked to behave during the rally, otherwise they could be accused of contempt of court. Jatuporn has threatened to stage a hunger strike in prison if his bail is revoked. In another development, the Democrat Party vowed yesterday to organise political activities in provinces considered to red-shirt strongholds, although Democrat leader Abhisit Vejjajiva encountered strong protests by red shirts in Chiang Mai on Friday. On Friday, Abhisit visited Chiang Mai to follow up on the Democrats' policy to push for the issuing of community land deeds for the poor in the north. Democrat spokesman Chavanond Intarakomalyasut said yesterday that red shirts hounded Abhisit from the airport to a hotel where the Democrats held a seminar. Some even tried to block Abhisit's car with their vehicles. Chavanond said the Democrats were not worried by the incident but would continue to visit "red" provinces. The government should stop using red shirts as tool to block the Democrats from carrying out political activities, he said. Also yesterday, Abac Poll gave results of its latest opinion survey, which found that most people felt conflicts over charter amendments were not over yet. Abac Poll said the survey was carried out among 2,144 residents in 17 provinces from July 16-21. It found about 80 per cent of the respondents believed that conflicts over changes to the charter were not over. Some 53 per cent of respondents believed courts would help reduce the conflicts, but 60 per cent did not believe that Parliament, the prime minister, or the armed forces would be able to lessen the conflicts. Abac Poll said 63 per cent of respondents believed turmoil and conflict over charter amendments would not end even after a national referendum, while 37 per cent believed the problems would end after a referendum. The survey also found 66 per cent of respondents still support Yingluck Shinawatra as PM. -- The Nation 2012-07-23 Great the fat pig could do with losing weight Sent from my iPad using ThaiVisa app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moruya Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 More intimidation. More threats. Put him inside. Let's see if he has the integrity to do a hunger strike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOODLOVER Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Gingers have jobs and will be attending on time and sober! Oh, wait, nope, my bad. Another intimidation of judges for an awaiting alleged terrorist and instigator of arson. Just another day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crushdepth Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Accused of intimidating the court and with a suspended sentence about to drop on his head, this might be the one time Jatuporn wished his goon squad would stay at home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noistar Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Any comments on a Democratically elected leader of the opposition, having to deal with such intimidation on a visit to Thailand's 2nd city? As Red/yellow supporters concede, Thailand is a Democratic country. In my ignorance, is such treatment of a senior member of parliament (is that the right term in Thailand), normal and accepted in Democracies? If not, perhaps Thailand, via the current ruling party isn't quite a Democracy yet. The Red-shirts are nothing to do with PTP so PTP condemnation of such atrocious activities is forthcoming I'm sure 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reasonableman Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Any comments on a Democratically elected leader of the opposition, having to deal with such intimidation on a visit to Thailand's 2nd city? As Red/yellow supporters concede, Thailand is a Democratic country. In my ignorance, is such treatment of a senior member of parliament (is that the right term in Thailand), normal and accepted in Democracies? If not, perhaps Thailand, via the current ruling party isn't quite a Democracy yet. The Red-shirts are nothing to do with PTP so PTP condemnation of such atrocious activities is forthcoming I'm sure Rumor has it that the 100 "protestors" were only throwing stale "reconciliation donuts", not stones at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiHadOrange Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Yes totally normal in real democracies. Politicians get locked up because of their speeches and staging rallies is undemocratic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltandpepper Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Isn't it nice to see all these charming people showing a peaceful support to their smartest speaker, and all ready to go back home when judges have accomplished their duty in a serene atmosphere (at most fear)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chotthee Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Yes totally normal in real democracies. Politicians get locked up because of their speeches and staging rallies is undemocratic. Usually it is OK. Just don't talk about the taboo subjects; there's about 112 subjects in total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jawnie Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 The convoluted tale of Mr. Jatuporn is a perfect exemplar for Thailand's self-dug grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Worawut Wichaidit, a spokesman for the red-shirt movement, said yesterday that red-shirt leaders and supporters would gather at the court today to provide moral support for Jatuporn. Moral support. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozfromoz Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Lets see what the outcome is, should the decision not go the way that the "Reds" believe. Judging on the recent behaviour in Chiang Mai against the Opposition Leader, I wouldnt be confident that the umpires decision would be respected, and they just pack up and go home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OzMick Posted July 23, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2012 Yes totally normal in real democracies. Politicians get locked up because of their speeches and staging rallies is undemocratic. In real democracies, persons facing serious criminal charges are not nominated as candidates for election, nor given dodgy party list seats as a reward for their criminal activities and to help them avoid prosecution. There is also the tendency for those facing very serious charges NOT to be granted bail, and those lucky enough to get this privilege are usually smart enough to obey their bail conditions. But that's in a REAL democracy and not here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AleG Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Worawut Wichaidit, a spokesman for the red-shirt movement, said yesterday that red-shirt leaders and supporters would gather at the court today to provide moral support for Jatuporn. Moral support. To support his morals a cat's whisker should suffice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notstupid30 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Two-faced, self-cantered, ego maniac, type-A personalities these red shirts leaders and should all be put in jail including the yellow shirts leaders, these's days it's self self self self self ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Hope he remembers to bring his toothbrush. Do hunger strikers need a toothbrush? Maybe he'll sew his mouth shut - that would be a win-win situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapout Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Will Rogers once said " I never met a man I didn't like" Thank goodness he never had to be subjected to this individual.nor those like him. I doubt he would even fit 'the rest of the story', once Will got to know them, his opinion could be modified somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Jatuporn has threatened to stage a hunger strike in prison if his bail is revoked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notstupid30 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Jatuporn has threatened to stage a hunger strike in prison if his bail is revoked. I'm not bothered 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Look on the bright side - Jatuporn gets a cell, reds kick off big time, BIB bring out their Chinese tear-gas and blow off a few limbs and heads, Yingluk arranges a few hundred million baht compensation to keep the reds primed, and the Isaan economy gets a nice little boost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeO Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Reds to rally at court for ruling on Jatuporn The Nation "Jatuporn has threatened to stage a hunger strike in prison if his bail is revoked". - - - - - - - - - - - - He has never been a man of his word, so if he did go on hunger strike, it would be for about two days just as a gesture ... and of course, he would be looking for great support from the crowd as a result of such a meaningless gesture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Reds to rally at court for ruling on Jatuporn The Nation "Jatuporn has threatened to stage a hunger strike in prison if his bail is revoked". - - - - - - - - - - - - He has never been a man of his word, so if he did go on hunger strike, it would be for about two days just as a gesture ... and of course, he would be looking for great support from the crowd as a result of such a meaningless gesture. When the Red Shirts "canonfodder" slept and dined at the streets of Bangkok, the red shirt slept and dined at a hotel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindsayBKK Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) I think they should look 'em all up and throw away the key. But my guess is they'll be out of jail in no time. But if I did what he did I would be in jail or kicked out of the country, it's good to be Thai sometimes. http://www.courierma...z-1226426065160 Australia has the best jails. Bedroom looks like F1 hotel Democrat spokesman Chavanond Intarakomalyasut said yesterday that red shirts hounded Abhisit from the airport to a hotel where the Democrats held a seminar. Some even tried to block Abhisit's car with their vehicles. Abhisit Vejjajiva on Saturday slammed the red shirts' violent attack on him in Chiang Mai, saying the incident was obviously intended to hurt him and threw rocks at the car he came in, damaging it. They didn't just block his car they smashed it, from what I heard but free to air TV didn't report it nor newspapers by the look of it. Onya Nation Edited July 23, 2012 by LindsayBKK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
song0674 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I tried to sympathise with the sentiment of the some Red Shirt supporters – i.e. the working class fight for democracy (supposedly). Now their protests are signs of threat/aggression and simply bothersome. On the way to work this morning (7.30am) – a Red Shirt truck was blaring music at full volume! 7.30am!!! That is just inconsiderate, intrusive and plain selfish. I don’t care how noble the cause is – I don’t want to listen to any loud music at 7.30am in the morning!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Exactly what I said would happen on another forum, After the intimidation at the constitution court thay will believe and there leaders will have told them so, that it was their actions that convinced the judges to rule in their favour. This will now become standard practice at any court case where they think they have any interest. Go red shirt demoracy. And I see Europe likes it according to the PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Exactly what I said would happen on another forum, After the intimidation at the constitution court thay will believe and there leaders will have told them so, that it was their actions that convinced the judges to rule in their favour. This will now become standard practice at any court case where they think they have any interest. Go red shirt demoracy. And I see Europe likes it according to the PM Most of the leaders in Europe hasn´t a clue whats goes on in Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Crushdepth Posted July 23, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2012 Yes totally normal in real democracies. Politicians get locked up because of their speeches and staging rallies is undemocratic. In real democracies, persons facing serious criminal charges are not nominated as candidates for election, nor given dodgy party list seats as a reward for their criminal activities and to help them avoid prosecution. There is also the tendency for those facing very serious charges NOT to be granted bail, and those lucky enough to get this privilege are usually smart enough to obey their bail conditions. But that's in a REAL democracy and not here. Real democracies are also notoriously intolerant of people intimidating judges. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiphidon Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I think they should look 'em all up and throw away the key. But my guess is they'll be out of jail in no time. But if I did what he did I would be in jail or kicked out of the country, it's good to be Thai sometimes. http://www.courierma...z-1226426065160 Australia has the best jails. Bedroom looks like F1 hotel Democrat spokesman Chavanond Intarakomalyasut said yesterday that red shirts hounded Abhisit from the airport to a hotel where the Democrats held a seminar. Some even tried to block Abhisit's car with their vehicles. Abhisit Vejjajiva on Saturday slammed the red shirts' violent attack on him in Chiang Mai, saying the incident was obviously intended to hurt him and threw rocks at the car he came in, damaging it. They didn't just block his car they smashed it, from what I heard but free to air TV didn't report it nor newspapers by the look of it. Onya Nation Smashed it, really, from "what you heard" not just "blocked" by two pickups with his car managing to get through without damage as reported. Oh well, I'll wait for the photographs of this smashed car............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reasonableman Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I think they should look 'em all up and throw away the key. But my guess is they'll be out of jail in no time. But if I did what he did I would be in jail or kicked out of the country, it's good to be Thai sometimes. http://www.courierma...z-1226426065160 Australia has the best jails. Bedroom looks like F1 hotel Democrat spokesman Chavanond Intarakomalyasut said yesterday that red shirts hounded Abhisit from the airport to a hotel where the Democrats held a seminar. Some even tried to block Abhisit's car with their vehicles. Abhisit Vejjajiva on Saturday slammed the red shirts' violent attack on him in Chiang Mai, saying the incident was obviously intended to hurt him and threw rocks at the car he came in, damaging it. They didn't just block his car they smashed it, from what I heard but free to air TV didn't report it nor newspapers by the look of it. Onya Nation Smashed it, really, from "what you heard" not just "blocked" by two pickups with his car managing to get through without damage as reported. Oh well, I'll wait for the photographs of this smashed car............. Yes, you were deliberately misleading, nothing new there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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