Thai Defence Minister Sukampol Cancels Press Conference On Abhisit Conscription Case

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Sukampol cancels press conference on Abhisit conscription case

THE NATION

BANGKOK: -- Defence Minister ACM Sukampol Suwannathat yesterday abruptly cancelled a press conference scheduled for today to explain the findings of his ministry

No explanation was given for the cancellation. The press conference was scheduled to begin at 3pm at the Defence Ministry. ACM Maitri Osothong, deputy permanent secretary for defence, who heads the fact-finding team in Abhisit's case, had also been due to appear at the press conference.

Last week, the defence minister said there were discrepancies between the conscription document Abhisit used when applying for a teaching job at Chulachomklao Royal Military Academy and his records at the Conscription Registrar's Office.

A spokesman for the ruling Pheu Thai Party, Prompong Nopparit, yesterday said he would ask the defence minister and the military academy to investigate whether any falsified document was used in Abhisit's job application. If they failed to act urgently, he would file a petition against them for dereliction of duty, Prompong said.

The Pheu Thai spokesman also urged the Ombudsman's Office to expedite its investigation into the matter.

Abhisit, who is leader of the Democrat Party, yesterday said he had offered many times a defence against the allegation that he evaded military service. He said he had to be careful now about commenting publicly as his defamation case against Pheu Thai MP Jatuporn Prompan for making such an accusation was before the Criminal Court.

He called on the government to investigate this matter by looking into the relevant documents and official records of his military conscription.

Meanwhile, Raksakecha Chaechai, deputy secretary-general of the Ombudsman's Office, said yesterday that the agency would not try to find out whether Abhisit had evaded military service.

He said the complainant, Pheu Thai politician Kamol Bandaiphet, had asked the Ombudsman's Office to determine whether the defence minister failed to perform his duty properly for failing to look into Abhisit's case.

The official said that within a day or two, the agency's officials would forward to Sriracha Charoenpanit, the ombudsman responsible for military affairs, the documents obtained from the defence minister regarding Abhisit's case.

-- The Nation 2012-07-24

[Moruya]

May well be a very simple case of prejudice

[Thai at Heart]

Someone else got a dodgy certificate also, per chance?

[h90]

Someone else got a dodgy certificate also, per chance?

Or they didn't found any politician without with correct certificate, yet.

[rubl]

Last week, the defence minister said there were discrepancies between the conscription document Abhisit used when applying for a teaching job at Chulachomklao Royal Military Academy and his records at the Conscription Registrar's Office.

A spokesman for the ruling Pheu Thai Party, Prompong Nopparit, yesterday said he would ask the defence minister and the military academy to investigate whether any falsified document was used in Abhisit's job application. If they failed to act urgently, he would file a petition against them for dereliction of duty, Prompong said.

The Pheu Thai spokesman also urged the Ombudsman's Office to expedite its investigation into the matter.

The description here is more acceptable 'discrepancies between documents' than the hyped "Abhisit used fake document" we have in another thread. I agree with the PT spokesman to urge an (un-Thai) speedy investigation in the nature of the documents. I disagree with he threat to sue if the Ombudsman fails to act urgently. It's not as if the future of this country or flooding in a few months time depends on the outcome of this issue on 24 year old papers

Edited July 24, 2012 by Maestro
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[Scott]

Off-topic posts removed. Please stay on-topic.

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Prayuth says fresh evidences required to reopen probe against Abhisit

The Nation

BANGKOK: -- Army chief General Prayuth Chanocha Tuesday said critics of Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva must have fresh evidence in order to reopen the probe into his conscription as the case was closed since 1999 after finding no wrongdoing.

"The Army has forwarded all documents, which were the outcome of the 1999 probe, to the Defence Ministry and I am not in the position to judge who is right or wrong," he said.

Prayuth said the Army did not have any additional documents nor evidence to change its decision to close the case involving Abhisit.

He said the Army Inspector General Department was responsible for compiling evidence on the case and forwading its findings to the ministry.

"I would prefer devoting my attention on more than 200,000 troops to someone like Abhisit who is not in the military service," he said.

-- The Nation 2012-07-24

[scorecard]

Last week, the defence minister said there were discrepancies between the conscription document Abhisit used when applying for a teaching job at Chulachomklao Royal Military Academy and his records at the Conscription Registrar's Office.

A spokesman for the ruling Pheu Thai Party, Prompong Nopparit, yesterday said he would ask the defence minister and the military academy to investigate whether any falsified document was used in Abhisit's job application. If they failed to act urgently, he would file a petition against them for dereliction of duty, Prompong said.

The Pheu Thai spokesman also urged the Ombudsman's Office to expedite its investigation into the matter.

The description here is more acceptable 'discrepancies between documents' than the hyped "Abhisit used fake document" we have in another thread. I agree with the PT spokesman to urge an (un-Thai) speedy investigation in the nature of the documents. I disagree with he threat to sue if the Ombudsman fails to act urgently. It's not as if the future of this country or flooding in a few months time depends on the outcome of this issue on 24 year old papers

Plus, there are numerous cases of people who have caused multiple deaths and injurious through totally derelict behaviors, and who are still walking free and some of these cases now many years old.

Plus, there are cases of sons of loud mouth politiciians who are clearly guilty as hell who are walking free, and same sons purported to have used fake documents to enter gov't service. Why is PT / reds not jumping on them?

If Abhisit did use false documents then he should be punished accordingly, on the other hand this has already been investigated to death and no wrong doing found. PT / reds / UDD tried to pin him on this multiple times before, why wasn't this new 'stuff' discovered in the previous attempts? Why was the press conference abruptly cancelled yesterday with no explanation forthcoming?

Let's have some balance please.,

[Noistar]

Last week, the defence minister said there were discrepancies between the conscription document Abhisit used when applying for a teaching job at Chulachomklao Royal Military Academy and his records at the Conscription Registrar's Office.

A spokesman for the ruling Pheu Thai Party, Prompong Nopparit, yesterday said he would ask the defence minister and the military academy to investigate whether any falsified document was used in Abhisit's job application. If they failed to act urgently, he would file a petition against them for dereliction of duty, Prompong said.

The Pheu Thai spokesman also urged the Ombudsman's Office to expedite its investigation into the matter.

The description here is more acceptable 'discrepancies between documents' than the hyped "Abhisit used fake document" we have in another thread. I agree with the PT spokesman to urge an (un-Thai) speedy investigation in the nature of the documents. I disagree with he threat to sue if the Ombudsman fails to act urgently. It's not as if the future of this country or flooding in a few months time depends on the outcome of this issue on 24 year old papers

Plus, there are numerous cases of people who have caused multiple deaths and injurious through totally derelict behaviors, and who are still walking free and some of these cases now many years old.

Plus, there are cases of sons of loud mouth politiciians who are clearly guilty as hell who are walking free, and same sons purported to have used fake documents to enter gov't service. Why is PT / reds not jumping on them?

If Abhisit did use false documents then he should be punished accordingly, on the other hand this has already been investigated to death and no wrong doing found. PT / reds / UDD tried to pin him on this multiple times before, why wasn't this new 'stuff' discovered in the previous attempts? Why was the press conference abruptly cancelled yesterday with no explanation forthcoming?

Let's have some balance please.,

I fear your last sentence hasn't a hope in hell.

I can't believe the extensive posting re the original issue.

[Thai at Heart]

Last week, the defence minister said there were discrepancies between the conscription document Abhisit used when applying for a teaching job at Chulachomklao Royal Military Academy and his records at the Conscription Registrar's Office.

A spokesman for the ruling Pheu Thai Party, Prompong Nopparit, yesterday said he would ask the defence minister and the military academy to investigate whether any falsified document was used in Abhisit's job application. If they failed to act urgently, he would file a petition against them for dereliction of duty, Prompong said.

The Pheu Thai spokesman also urged the Ombudsman's Office to expedite its investigation into the matter.

The description here is more acceptable 'discrepancies between documents' than the hyped "Abhisit used fake document" we have in another thread. I agree with the PT spokesman to urge an (un-Thai) speedy investigation in the nature of the documents. I disagree with he threat to sue if the Ombudsman fails to act urgently. It's not as if the future of this country or flooding in a few months time depends on the outcome of this issue on 24 year old papers

Plus, there are numerous cases of people who have caused multiple deaths and injurious through totally derelict behaviors, and who are still walking free and some of these cases now many years old.

Plus, there are cases of sons of loud mouth politiciians who are clearly guilty as hell who are walking free, and same sons purported to have used fake documents to enter gov't service. Why is PT / reds not jumping on them?

If Abhisit did use false documents then he should be punished accordingly, on the other hand this has already been investigated to death and no wrong doing found. PT / reds / UDD tried to pin him on this multiple times before, why wasn't this new 'stuff' discovered in the previous attempts? Why was the press conference abruptly cancelled yesterday with no explanation forthcoming?

Let's have some balance please.,

I fear your last sentence hasn't a hope in hell.

I can't believe the extensive posting re the original issue.

Well, I utterly disagree. He either is the perfect blue eyed boy of Thai politics or he isn't. Dodging your military service isn't exactly a good thing id you aspire to be pm. You are either above it or you aren't.

He of all people should have knownbetter. I don't care what the rest got away with, this is his cross to bear. If he blagged his way out, what a patriot.

[rubl]

Plus, there are numerous cases of people who have caused multiple deaths and injurious through totally derelict behaviors, and who are still walking free and some of these cases now many years old.

Plus, there are cases of sons of loud mouth politiciians who are clearly guilty as hell who are walking free, and same sons purported to have used fake documents to enter gov't service. Why is PT / reds not jumping on them?

If Abhisit did use false documents then he should be punished accordingly, on the other hand this has already been investigated to death and no wrong doing found. PT / reds / UDD tried to pin him on this multiple times before, why wasn't this new 'stuff' discovered in the previous attempts? Why was the press conference abruptly cancelled yesterday with no explanation forthcoming?

Let's have some balance please.,

I fear your last sentence hasn't a hope in hell.

I can't believe the extensive posting re the original issue.

Well, I utterly disagree. He either is the perfect blue eyed boy of Thai politics or he isn't. Dodging your military service isn't exactly a good thing id you aspire to be pm. You are either above it or you aren't.

He of all people should have knownbetter. I don't care what the rest got away with, this is his cross to bear. If he blagged his way out, what a patriot.

He did military service, although not as a simple conscript. Furthermore I doubt that at the tender age of 21 or so he already aspired to be PM. Anyone here who's read his memories assuming he wrote them already?

[Siripon]

It looks like General Sukampol had no evidence to present.

Or perhaps he feared being questioned about his defence of the infamous useless GT200 bomb detectors, many of which were purchased under his watch as Air Force Chief of Staff?

[TongueThaied]

Dodging military service or obtaining a cushy spot in it by the rich through the payment of money is absolutely commonplace in this country. But it is against the law. Just exile him to Dubai.

[Moruya]

The Emperor had no clothes.

[chotthee]

The Emperor had no clothes.

General Sukampol had loose face big time.

[phiphidon]

Well, I utterly disagree. He either is the perfect blue eyed boy of Thai politics or he isn't. Dodging your military service isn't exactly a good thing id you aspire to be pm. You are either above it or you aren't.

He of all people should have knownbetter. I don't care what the rest got away with, this is his cross to bear. If he blagged his way out, what a patriot.

He did military service, although not as a simple conscript. Furthermore I doubt that at the tender age of 21 or so he already aspired to be PM. Anyone here who's read his memories assuming he wrote them already?

You're right he was ten when he decided that.

Abhisit wanted to be a politician since he was 10. He said the October 14, 1973 uprising was the main motive. And Chuan, from the country's oldest party, opened the door for him.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2008/12/16/politics/politics_30091072.php

Precocious little s...........lip of a boy, that he was.

[Moruya]

The Emperor had no clothes.

General Sukampol had loose face big time.

and bared his sensitive nether regions to boot.