David48 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) How did a 'Nod to the Mods' turn into a debate of the Forum and a handbag slapping contest ... To the majority of the Mods ... Edited July 24, 2012 by David48 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GuestHouse Posted July 24, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) There are aspects of TV moderation that I have very firmly held views against, but this thread is not about what's wrong with moderation, nor do I wish to make it so. One aspect of moderation which I find works extremely well and which I frequently use is the REPORT function. We too often see totally unacceptable posts from people, racism, misogynism or other forms of unacceptable content. When I've seen something I find totally unacceptable I've hit the REPORT button, given a brief note on why I want to report the post, and its almost always gone within moments, or the particularly offensive content is edited out. I think this is a great way to moderate as obviously the more eyes on these issues the better, and it also avoids members who find something offensive, reposting it in a response, which only further propagates the spread of the offensive content. So for me the best moderation is members reporting the really offensive stuff as and when they find it. Edited July 24, 2012 by GuestHouse 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Mods! Thank you for not banning me! Yes I know its a thankless job. So why mess with tradition? Next ... Using reverse logic ... would it be a thankful task if you were banned ... I'll get my coat ... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantilley Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 One aspect of moderation which I find works extremely well and which I frequently use is the REPORT function Agreed - it's a shame though that as the mobile app becomes more popular, the less reporting can be done: there's no report button in the app... Sent from my GT-I9300T using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzdocxx Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Razeell and bkkjames..you guys joined TV within two days of each other...7 years ago. Has anyone ever see the two of them together at the same time? Just saying. Edited July 25, 2012 by zzdocxx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSnapper Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 One aspect of moderation which I find works extremely well and which I frequently use is the REPORT function. We too often see totally unacceptable posts from people, racism, misogynism or other forms of unacceptable content. When I've seen something I find totally unacceptable I've hit the REPORT button, given a brief note on why I want to report the post, and its almost always gone within moments, or the particularly offensive content is edited out. I think this is a great way to moderate as obviously the more eyes on these issues the better, and it also avoids members who find something offensive, reposting it in a response, which only further propagates the spread of the offensive content. So for me the best moderation is members reporting the really offensive stuff as and when they find it. I come from a country where reporting the class enemy was everybody's duty until 1989. It is disgusting that we see this mindset pop up again. But I acknowledge your freedom to have that mindset. I hope the mods here will continue to exercise some liberal tradition to free speech and free thinking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocturn Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 There are aspects of TV moderation that I have very firmly held views against, but this thread is not about what's wrong with moderation, nor do I wish to make it so. One aspect of moderation which I find works extremely well and which I frequently use is the REPORT function. We too often see totally unacceptable posts from people, racism, misogynism or other forms of unacceptable content. When I've seen something I find totally unacceptable I've hit the REPORT button, given a brief note on why I want to report the post, and its almost always gone within moments, or the particularly offensive content is edited out. I think this is a great way to moderate as obviously the more eyes on these issues the better, and it also avoids members who find something offensive, reposting it in a response, which only further propagates the spread of the offensive content. So for me the best moderation is members reporting the really offensive stuff as and when they find it. lovely. a pompous censor. so not only do we have moderators, our content is filtered through guesthouse and every other wannabee hall monitor as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZZELL Posted July 25, 2012 Author Share Posted July 25, 2012 lovely. a pompous censor. so not only do we have moderators, our content is filtered through guesthouse and every other wannabee hall monitor as well. I don't think it's to do with "censorship"... More to do with common decency RAZZ P.S. At the moment I am currently banned from another forum so I'm no angel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Did you thank the Mods on the other forum for the ban. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endure Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Do they really receive no benefit from being mods? It seems like quite a big job to do for free. Anyhow, I think the mods are do a great job and are usually consistent, which I think is important. From what I gather the Mods do it for free That's right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Do they really receive no benefit from being mods? It seems like quite a big job to do for free. Anyhow, I think the mods are do a great job and are usually consistent, which I think is important. From what I gather the Mods do it for free That's right. Free? That's harsh. Then it sounds like you did the "honorable" thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 The mods are wonderful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 The mods are wonderful! Brown schnozzle muchly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuestHouse Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 One aspect of moderation which I find works extremely well and which I frequently use is the REPORT function. We too often see totally unacceptable posts from people, racism, misogynism or other forms of unacceptable content. When I've seen something I find totally unacceptable I've hit the REPORT button, given a brief note on why I want to report the post, and its almost always gone within moments, or the particularly offensive content is edited out. I think this is a great way to moderate as obviously the more eyes on these issues the better, and it also avoids members who find something offensive, reposting it in a response, which only further propagates the spread of the offensive content. So for me the best moderation is members reporting the really offensive stuff as and when they find it. I come from a country where reporting the class enemy was everybody's duty until 1989. It is disgusting that we see this mindset pop up again. But I acknowledge your freedom to have that mindset. I hope the mods here will continue to exercise some liberal tradition to free speech and free thinking. There are aspects of TV moderation that I have very firmly held views against, but this thread is not about what's wrong with moderation, nor do I wish to make it so. One aspect of moderation which I find works extremely well and which I frequently use is the REPORT function. We too often see totally unacceptable posts from people, racism, misogynism or other forms of unacceptable content. When I've seen something I find totally unacceptable I've hit the REPORT button, given a brief note on why I want to report the post, and its almost always gone within moments, or the particularly offensive content is edited out. I think this is a great way to moderate as obviously the more eyes on these issues the better, and it also avoids members who find something offensive, reposting it in a response, which only further propagates the spread of the offensive content. So for me the best moderation is members reporting the really offensive stuff as and when they find it. lovely. a pompous censor. so not only do we have moderators, our content is filtered through guesthouse and every other wannabee hall monitor as well. The last time I used the REPORT button was to request the removal of personal details of someone who is not a member of TV (hence unable to defend themselves) and in any case suffering from a mental illness, aspects of which were being discussed. As I've said, I also ask for racist, misogynist or overtly abusive posts to be removed - The Mods almost always agree or make edits to remove the offensive content. Now, please get this very clear, if you have a problem with me reporting racism, misogynism, overtly abusive or posts revealing personal details of people who are mentally ill, then to be honest, I don't give a shit. If the Mods disagree with reports they can choose to ignore them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 The mods are wonderful! Brown schnozzle muchly? Sometimes you have to give out the love JT.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 This thread really is bringing a tear to my eye. As Jeff Fenech used to say: 'I love youse all!!!!!!!!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_Dog Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 This thread really is bringing a tear to my eye. As Jeff Fenech used to say: 'I love youse all!!!!!!!!' Was he a Yooper? Sounds like people I grew up with.Seriously though.... Like that famous quote from the 1400's said: "Manners maketh the man, and for everyone else we have Mods." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 This thread really is bringing a tear to my eye. As Jeff Fenech used to say: 'I love youse all!!!!!!!!' Was he a Yooper? Sounds like people I grew up with.Seriously though.... Like that famous quote from the 1400's said: "Manners maketh the man, and for everyone else we have Mods." Fenech was an Australian boxer who won a few world titles, who would say in interviews and to his fans 'I love youse all!'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Fenech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSnapper Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Now, please get this very clear, if you have a problem with me reporting racism, misogynism, overtly abusive or posts revealing personal details of people who are mentally ill, then to be honest, I don't give a shit. Not that I'm surprised. But openly asking people to denunciate others who write in your view "unacceptable" posts is exactly that repulsive behaviour many would find worse than alleged "misogynism, racism" or whatever you think people should not be allowed to talk about. Some never learn from history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David006 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Ugh!!! where is my Kaopectate....<deleted> it's a job...! What next a thread .."thank you Mr Taxman,Meter Maid,Immigration/government employee/officer, brewery...."?? "Thankyou all you beautiful working girls" would be more entertaining....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) To the orignal OP, are you serious ? The life you have now is a one time shot, it aint no dress rehearsal. Let people express their views and make an effort to understand them. Unless your names adolf. Eh? I'm all for free speech. But do you want to read untold number of BS topics about "I've got $23m" or "what colour underpants shall I wear"??? Total inane drivel. RAZZ Are you prejudging the underpants thread, or is that an informed opinion after a careful and open-minded perusal? I hadn't really marked you down as a snap-judgement 'condemn on first appearances' sort of a guy; I suppose I should have spent more time getting to know you... Edited July 25, 2012 by StreetCowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) How did a 'Nod to the Mods' turn into a debate of the Forum and a handbag slapping contest ... To the majority of the Mods ... 'Azzabitlikemee, soitis, but Ah look mair cool, like. mair like Oh-Ma Sharriff, ken? Firallahknow... RIBB For goodness' sake Imam, we don't want people thinking that I talk like that. SC Edited July 25, 2012 by StreetCowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZZELL Posted July 25, 2012 Author Share Posted July 25, 2012 SC Fill your boots if the underpants thread floats your boat RAZZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocturn Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 I come from a country where reporting the class enemy was everybody's duty until 1989. It is disgusting that we see this mindset pop up again. But I acknowledge your freedom to have that mindset. I hope the mods here will continue to exercise some liberal tradition to free speech and free thinking. There are aspects of TV moderation that I have very firmly held views against, but this thread is not about what's wrong with moderation, nor do I wish to make it so. One aspect of moderation which I find works extremely well and which I frequently use is the REPORT function. We too often see totally unacceptable posts from people, racism, misogynism or other forms of unacceptable content. When I've seen something I find totally unacceptable I've hit the REPORT button, given a brief note on why I want to report the post, and its almost always gone within moments, or the particularly offensive content is edited out. I think this is a great way to moderate as obviously the more eyes on these issues the better, and it also avoids members who find something offensive, reposting it in a response, which only further propagates the spread of the offensive content. So for me the best moderation is members reporting the really offensive stuff as and when they find it. lovely. a pompous censor. so not only do we have moderators, our content is filtered through guesthouse and every other wannabee hall monitor as well. The last time I used the REPORT button was to request the removal of personal details of someone who is not a member of TV (hence unable to defend themselves) and in any case suffering from a mental illness, aspects of which were being discussed. As I've said, I also ask for racist, misogynist or overtly abusive posts to be removed - The Mods almost always agree or make edits to remove the offensive content. Now, please get this very clear, if you have a problem with me reporting racism, misogynism, overtly abusive or posts revealing personal details of people who are mentally ill, then to be honest, I don't give a shit. If the Mods disagree with reports they can choose to ignore them. well, firstly i do not at all agree with the notion of you as a self-appointed arbiter of the acceptable. So in that sense i am happy that the moderators are in a position to ignore you as they see fit. secondly, i would rather see those examples of racism, misogyny and right out in the open rather than deleted. they allow myself and other users to clearly understand who we are dealing with. such posters should be clearly identified. i suspect however if racism and misogyny were truly taboo here there would be very little movement in the general forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mossfinn Posted July 25, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2012 The problem with no moderation is that it allows any kind of free speech, hurrah shouts all and sundry, but the troll infested waters of general for example would create a nonsensical manuscript of constant upheaval, drivel, blasphemy, alcohol ( Heaven Forbid ) driven abuse that would have no constructive, beneficial, or positive vibe about it. Those that contribute honestly and positively would soon leave and it would be left to those that contribute worthless trash and the banned members with bile in their stomach firing vitriol at any spectator, innocent or otherwise. I sense that those who extol the attributes of free speech, without exception, will jump like a cordon of demented slip fielders when they hear the nick of the willow, but there is no catch here, just the folly of free speech for all and the chaos that would ensue. Like hands in the ruck, there are rules to follow, no moderation the forum would die on its feet, if you are honest, do you really expect that or want it? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 ... Like hands in the ruck, there are rules to follow, no moderation the forum would die on its feet, if you are honest, do you really expect that or want it? I agree. A reasonable amount of moderation is an absolute necessity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post endure Posted July 25, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Some time ago someone who thought that moderation on Thaivisa was overstrict started a non-moderated forum 'just for fun' Within 48 hours he shut it down after one of the usual trolls started posting pictures of his wife and kids. As has been said before (and this isn't a plea for sympathy) you have no idea of the unpleasantness (and I'm being polite) that goes on behind the scenes. Living in Europe I used to mod the 'night shift' when the booze has been flowing and people lose their inhibitions. Edited July 25, 2012 by endure 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossfinn Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Yes. I remember that, I had my beef with the guy, but he didn't deserve that. We have a natural right to make use of our pens as of our tongue, at our peril, risk and hazard. ~Voltaire, Dictionnaire Philosophique, 1764 I actually agree with the sentiment, but unfortunately Voltaire had never heard of the internet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 I sense that those who extol the attributes of free speech, without exception, will jump like a cordon of demented slip fielders when they hear the nick of the willow, but there is no catch here, just the folly of free speech for all and the chaos that would ensue. Please excuse this small diversion ... Mossfinn, with waxy lyrical like that, where were you in the Cricketing Thread? It ended up being full of salty coffee drinkers and Cheer Squad selection. Leading the Cheer ... opps, that was me So to the Mods, thanks for the light touch in that Cricketing thread, we appreciated the work of the 3rd Umpire there and the Mod's strong knees (they know what we mean). . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuestHouse Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Now, please get this very clear, if you have a problem with me reporting racism, misogynism, overtly abusive or posts revealing personal details of people who are mentally ill, then to be honest, I don't give a shit. Not that I'm surprised. But openly asking people to denunciate others who write in your view "unacceptable" posts is exactly that repulsive behaviour many would find worse than alleged "misogynism, racism" or whatever you think people should not be allowed to talk about. Some never learn from history. Indeed some do learn from history: I hope we have all learned from history that the road to atrocity starts with seemingly harmless derogatory remarks against people of other races - once identified as different, and associated with the accepted derogatory remarks we can all move to the next step along the road to getting rid of them. Please, I've read many of the posts you have made on TV, I don't need you to lecture me on freedom of speech, history or the road to tyranny - you are not up to the job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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