greenwanderer108 Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 It’s always great to share thoughts, wisdom, opinions, views, critique, and philosophies with my dad’s and grandfather’s generation…Only the expat versions who decided to live on this side of the world for perhaps similar reasons to me…only not. Love is a subatomic quantum jump inside a dynamic molecule that we call life. We can predict its path while not observing its position. When aware of its position, its path is unknowable. I'm ‘in love’ with souls from the last 10,000 years of reincarnation. I cross paths with them every where I go. However, the circumstances of this life don't always allow for eternal reunions..as long as the cycle continues...there's always next life, we’ll meet again. In similar terms, let's recall Meno's Paradox. Everything/one that I know or don't know is that which I already knew...merely forgotten. Thus applied to love, Everyone that I fall in love with is actually someone I already fell in love previously/prior (in another life/consciousness /existence) This is my best take on love thus far... If you disagree, elaborate. Examples/References get extra credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfessorFart Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meadish_sweetball Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 One argument, what about the very first person you fall in love with? If it is your very first incarnation, it cannot be based on memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurgen Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 It’s always great to share thoughts, wisdom, opinions, views, critique, and philosophies with my dad’s and grandfather’s generation…Only the expat versions who decided to live on this side of the world for perhaps similar reasons to me…only not. Love is a subatomic quantum jump inside a dynamic molecule that we call life. We can predict its path while not observing its position. When aware of its position, its path is unknowable. I'm ‘in love’ with souls from the last 10,000 years of reincarnation. I cross paths with them every where I go. However, the circumstances of this life don't always allow for eternal reunions..as long as the cycle continues...there's always next life, we’ll meet again. In similar terms, let's recall Meno's Paradox. Everything/one that I know or don't know is that which I already knew...merely forgotten. Thus applied to love, Everyone that I fall in love with is actually someone I already fell in love previously/prior (in another life/consciousness /existence) This is my best take on love thus far... If you disagree, elaborate. Examples/References get extra credit. Ahh , the joys of LSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwanderer108 Posted January 17, 2006 Author Share Posted January 17, 2006 (edited) One argument, what about the very first person you fall in love with? If it is your very first incarnation, it cannot be based on memories. but how is one to know it is truly the first time/incarnation? Just like the little boy in the garden that Socrates and Menon confronted. As far as the little boy knew, it was his first time he had ever been confronted with the arithmatic problem (which he ended up solving). Aparently, all the answers lie within the soul, which according to Socrates logic if I recall right, has existed forever...No birth/particular origin that he explains Edited January 17, 2006 by greenwanderer108 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totster Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 It's times like this I wish there was a private philosophy forum... totster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshman Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 I thought it was quite obvious - Love is when you lose all reason or common sense, refuse to listen to the advice of others and generally behave like a moron dosed up on Prozac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creation2474 Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Love=like strongly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumonster Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 love is a word used to sell , music ,movies , stuff etc to those who do not wish to be left out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markuk Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 (edited) no i dont maybe a heat of the moment thing? Edited January 17, 2006 by markuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Utter misery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suegha Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 (edited) It's times like this I wish there was a private philosophy forum... totster I'd second this! However, the poll was about sexual/romantic love. I'd have to say, and this wasn't a choice, many of the above. Also, to a degree the English language is difficult, I can say, I love my car, I love diving, I love my wife, I love Thai food, I love surfing the web, etc. To an English speaker these can make perfect sense, and yet I have not gone into the many different types of 'Love' that exists. To add to the philosophical debate - All these loves are part of the one and only greatest love. What's the song that went 'Love is, the sweetest thing...' Edited January 17, 2006 by suegha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiPauly Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 This thread has no begining and no end. Love means so many diferent things to different folks. I could not even vote as I cant see the point personally, and I could write my definition of love but it would take all night, and I bet many feel the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaz Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 The meaning of love is very simple - it's just a stronger version of "like" (as someone has already stated above). It's no more complicated than that is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_heart_thief Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Love It comes in different disguises. 1. Someone at the park who eyed-you. 2. A friend. 3. Family. 4. Someone you met in the street, who made your heart-beat falter. 5. A stranger who melts your heart the first time you met. 6. Unreasonable Rush of Blood to the Head when you see someone. 7. Butterflies in the stomach. 8. etc. etc. etc. The mystery is this ---- we don't really know how long LOVE will imprison us. Some love last for a lifetime, 15 years, 5 years, others even last for a day and some for only a minute or a second. So enjoy LOVE while you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippaporn Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 (edited) One argument, what about the very first person you fall in love with? If it is your very first incarnation, it cannot be based on memories. but how is one to know it is truly the first time/incarnation? Just like the little boy in the garden that Socrates and Menon confronted. As far as the little boy knew, it was his first time he had ever been confronted with the arithmatic problem (which he ended up solving). Aparently, all the answers lie within the soul, which according to Socrates logic if I recall right, has existed forever...No birth/particular origin that he explains Actually, the better explanation would be that time is simultaneous, something physicists seem to agree about, and which makes perfect sense given other explanations I've heard on the nature of reality. The physical apparatus is so designed as to experience the "now" linearly as a series of moments, one after another. A hard concept to wrap your brain around if time is all you know. But again, quite logical given the balance of the theory. Next . . . Edited January 17, 2006 by Tippaporn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwanderer108 Posted January 18, 2006 Author Share Posted January 18, 2006 One argument, what about the very first person you fall in love with? If it is your very first incarnation, it cannot be based on memories. but how is one to know it is truly the first time/incarnation? Just like the little boy in the garden that Socrates and Menon confronted. As far as the little boy knew, it was his first time he had ever been confronted with the arithmatic problem (which he ended up solving). Aparently, all the answers lie within the soul, which according to Socrates logic if I recall right, has existed forever...No birth/particular origin that he explains Actually, the better explanation would be that time is simultaneous, something physicists seem to agree about, and which makes perfect sense given other explanations I've heard on the nature of reality. The physical apparatus is so designed as to experience the "now" linearly as a series of moments, one after another. A hard concept to wrap your brain around if time is all you know. But again, quite logical given the balance of the theory. Next . . . Simultaneous as in moving in both directions?? The observer is a key here. Relativity Being that the observer's mind is trained to observe space and time in an orderly fashion (the physical apparatus) there is no way for that 'victim of love' to discern whether it is something new or something that already exists (merely being recalled/observed/felt again) But I would argue that there is no such thing as feeling love for the first time. Even if you don't believe in reincarnation and the likes, think about the psychology development of the concept...How does a fetus/embroyo experience love? While in the womb, love is a matter of physical necessity, not emotional, which doesn't 'just happen' but is rooted in the physical chain reaction in reproduction...so in this sense the essense of love can be traced back to merging/splitting of cells. While in the womb, our brains and minds are simple...life is simple...love is simple...there is no beginning and there is no end....untill our brains are exposed to the macro....society love comes in all directions. Aunts and uncles squeezing cheeks, women at the mall, couzins, grandmas....it is everyone's duty to show the new baby 'love'. And a child with a simple mind who has only ever known love through the embilical cord and a nipple, how does he/she grasp this new mult-dynamic concept? This is where I believe humans resemble a hard-disc rather than a cd-write. Somewhere in the brain/sole, there is an archive of waves of everything ever felt and to be felt. It's just the matter of how we access them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippaporn Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Not sure where you're getting your ideas from but I'd have to say I'm not familiar with the concepts as you explain them. Pretty heavy, greenwanderer. But I think we lost the audience. This is definitely leaning towards a philosophical discussion that would probably best be taken elsewhere. I'd be tempted to discuss but not here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwanderer108 Posted January 19, 2006 Author Share Posted January 19, 2006 Ok, ok, so we can get back to laymen's terms... Do you really know what love is? I think most forumers only know what they would like it to be Ideals merely "I know that I don't know" So Joe and Sue are married for 50 years, have a white picket fence, and survived three generations of rugrats, does that mean it is love that kept them together?? I would argue that many of these long term relationships/lives are more of a matter of familiarity and dependency...not in the name of love... Most people in such long relationships only stay with their mates for fear of the unknown, the unfamiliar, cause they know nothing else. And I'm not saying this is bad...just as I'm not saying it's good. The need for stability and consistency is a much larger drive at play... I know what love isn't for me It's not till death do us part for as long as we both shall live, etc. etc. etc....IMHO, if it came too fast, it's prone to leave just as fast. If it came too slow, the timing will likely be off...It's nothing you can put into your planner. If love is the close couzin of trust and devotion...it's the best friend of deception and surprise So please someone, give me an example of an action that is done 'in the name of love' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katana Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Love is one of the devices we have to avoid the void...so to speak... Love is that state of confusion that exists between two people before they really get to know each other... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soic Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Love is . caring for someone more than yourself . willing to change your life for someone . when you want to do for another without asking what's in it for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 If only the poll had included the question: "Do you think the OP buys boxes of Kleenex Tissues by the gross?" I might have voted. Dear oh dear, what a w... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suegha Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Love It comes in different disguises. 1. Someone at the park who eyed-you. 2. A friend. 3. Family. 4. Someone you met in the street, who made your heart-beat falter. 5. A stranger who melts your heart the first time you met. 6. Unreasonable Rush of Blood to the Head when you see someone. 7. Butterflies in the stomach. 8. etc. etc. etc. The mystery is this ---- we don't really know how long LOVE will imprison us. Some love last for a lifetime, 15 years, 5 years, others even last for a day and some for only a minute or a second. So enjoy LOVE while you can. This is a lovely post! I would add on the discussion of what Love is: Love expects nothing in return! It just is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibebop Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 (edited) It's times like this I wish there was a private philosophy forum... totster Isn't that bedlam is for? I know people use bedlam for that reason. I know this about love; people use that word and feelings attached to it way too freely. Edited January 19, 2006 by thaibebop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwanderer108 Posted January 24, 2006 Author Share Posted January 24, 2006 I know this about love; people use that word and feelings attached to it way too freely. I've heard this type of response quite often...Are you and others suggesting that love is a concept/word that should only be used in moderation?? What is too freely? What is an example of an accurate/precise usage of the word? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_heart_thief Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Love It comes in different disguises. 1. Someone at the park who eyed-you. 2. A friend. 3. Family. 4. Someone you met in the street, who made your heart-beat falter. 5. A stranger who melts your heart the first time you met. 6. Unreasonable Rush of Blood to the Head when you see someone. 7. Butterflies in the stomach. 8. etc. etc. etc. The mystery is this ---- we don't really know how long LOVE will imprison us. Some love last for a lifetime, 15 years, 5 years, others even last for a day and some for only a minute or a second. So enjoy LOVE while you can. This is a lovely post! I would add on the discussion of what Love is: Love expects nothing in return! It just is... Thanks Suegha! Well, the moment someone expects something in return, LOVE (in it's purest form) disappears! Then, we can call it lust, want or like, but never LOVE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff1 Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 ? Yes I agree with the Professor wholeheartedly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibebop Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 I know this about love; people use that word and feelings attached to it way too freely. I've heard this type of response quite often...Are you and others suggesting that love is a concept/word that should only be used in moderation?? What is too freely? What is an example of an accurate/precise usage of the word? People say what that don't mean all the time. People use love when the mean lust, or obsession. To say you love somebody is to imply that your feelings for them exsist at a higher level than what affection you display towards other people. Well, is this true, or has this person a limited vocabulary. What about loving the world/people? I know many here are thinking this and I say it's no different from the love/lust confusion. There is a difference between compassion and love. People use this word because they think they should and because if they don't they will become most unpopular very fast. I don't love my family members, meaning my parents and those related to them. They could all die tomorrow and I would not shed a tear. Yet, I tell them lies. I tell them I love them. I feel bad for the lie, yet they will accept no other option. I told both my parents that I couldn't care less for them yet they believed I didn't know what I was talking about, because everyone loves the parents right? So, I found it easier to lie, becuase no matter how many times I told them to get lost the kept calling. At least now the phone conversions aren't so stressful. So, should I say it when I don't mean it? Should I say it when I mean something else? Perhaps people wouldn't hurt each other so much in romantic relations if people said lust instead of love when that's what they mean? Perhaps people wouldn't confuse their own emotions so much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayo Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 I love anybody . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest endure Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 Love is when someone's happiness and welfare is as important to you as your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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