Can Thailand Avoid Becoming A Modern-Day Atlantis?

[TommoPhysicist]

Maybe they should consult the Mayor of New Orleans?

Interesting to see the comparison to New Orleans. I can remember long ago, a coloured preacher down south who liked to give long sermons on the "sinfullness iniquities of man and his propensity to cheat and lust for all that is wicked" etc,...as being the reason why New Orleans was sinking down into hell.

I guess theres some similarity with Bangkok,seeing how both places are built on low lying areas and swamp land

If he were right it would be Pattaya that was sinking fast.

[bangkokgabe]

Maybe they should consult the Mayor of New Orleans?

As a New Orleanian I suggest NOT talking to mr. Nagin......unless you want to know how NOT to reinforce the city from the inevitable

[OZEMADE]

Bangkok is the main city known as the "VENICE OF THE EAST."

I did read somewhere as well that Bangkok is also sinking and the ocean waters are rising at an alarming rate, so it will eventually will be like Venice.

There was even talk not so long ago about moving the city of Bangkok to another location due to the future predictions.

Khlong, or canals as they're more popularly called, run throughout the city of Bangkok, giving Bangkok the moniker “The Venice of the East."

Sources: http://ecoworldly.com/2009/06/04/the-venice-of-the-east-pollution-chokes-bangkoks-canals/

[rbrooks]

Keep them boat props greased and ready to divert!

[GentlemanJim]

Bangkok is the main city known as the "VENICE OF THE EAST."

I did read somewhere as well that Bangkok is also sinking and the ocean waters are rising at an alarming rate, so it will eventually will be like Venice.

There was even talk not so long ago about moving the city of Bangkok to another location due to the future predictions.

Khlong, or canals as they're more popularly called, run throughout the city of Bangkok, giving Bangkok the moniker “The Venice of the East."

Sources: http://ecoworldly.co...angkoks-canals/

You mean all that investment in infrastructure, land and assets that the Shinawatra's are doing with their own and the Governments money in....Chang Mai?

[FalangBaa]

I have a sinking feeling that Thailand should abandon this over-ambitious goal of becoming a modern-day Atlantis. However, it's doing quite well already at become a modern-day Sodom and Gomorrah. It would be well-advised to stick to that route. They just need to allow casinos in Pattaya, and maybe in Phuket.

[MuhammandAbdulJabbar]

More like the movie Waterworld (1995) staring Kevin Costner about in the future where the polar ice caps have melted and most of Earth is underwater, a mutated mariner fights starvation and outlaw "smokers," and reluctantly helps a woman and a young girl try to find dry land.

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[hellodolly]

This is the usual sort of blinkered, bigoted, prejudice journalism we can expect from Bangkok. Bangkok is not Thailand. It is just a relative small party of the country and, therefore, if it were to do an "Atlantis" the Thai capital wouldn't be greatly missed by the vast majority of Thai citizens and "guests" living in those parts of the country that are well above the flood-lines.

Flooding is what you get when you lop down forests and cover much of the ground with concrete in order to make money.

For those who wish to move away from the flood plains, come to Isan. We are over 500 feet above sea-level and have lots of land available for which we won't rip you off much more than Bangkokites rip us of when we need to visit their dirty, polluted city.

This is the usual sort of arrogant, bigoted, prejudice and holier-than- though attitude, we can expect from some expats with a know-it-all education.from outside Bangkok.

Just how many of your Isan- fellow- men /women, will loose their job, once Bangkok is gone? One 6th or 5th of the Thai-population lives or works in and near Bangkok, an even bigger part in businesses, that co-operate with companies or people in Bangkok, even from heavenly and dry Isan..

If any thing it will create jobs in the building industry. This is not some thing that is going to happen over night. It will take years and business will find new homes.

Who Knows Thailand might decide to really do some thing about it and ask the Dutch for help. And listen to what they have to say.

[hellodolly]

I have a sinking feeling that Thailand should abandon this over-ambitious goal of becoming a modern-day Atlantis. However, it's doing quite well already at become a modern-day Sodom and Gomorrah. It would be well-advised to stick to that route. They just need to allow casinos in Pattaya, and maybe in Phuket.

Have you got some thing against Chiang Mai?

[atyclb]

According to a Thai scholar, Atlantis is located near Chiang Mai. Just google it for more info.

Why would Thai people(a superior race) consult the Dutch for water management?

[dcutman]

Bangkok sinking is not a new issue. It has been known for 30 years, as has sea level rise. So instead of starting the solution then, the Thai's in their infinite wisdom,(mai pen rai) decided money to be much more important, and let the city build unabated, with little or no future planning.

For the next 30 years this mindset will continue. Local and regional flooding will become a normal everyday thing, just like traffic jams. Eventually people will stop moving to BKK or grow tired of not having access to food, clean water and walking through the raw sewage and hazardous chemicals and just leave.

Edited September 11, 2012 by dcutman

[GentlemanJim]

More like the movie Waterworld (1995) staring Kevin Costner about in the future where the polar ice caps have melted and most of Earth is underwater, a mutated mariner fights starvation and outlaw "smokers," and reluctantly helps a woman and a young girl try to find dry land.

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Thank you for your quote direct from the Internet Movie Data Base. I must admit that I am much more perplexed now. I just thought we were going to get damp feet in and around Bangkok, but you seem to think we will be submerged under several hundred meters of water. Time to stop building condos and build boats, big big boats. Will we all really have webbed feet and gills and when will this happen and importantly how will this happen? I fear that humans can only develop webbed feet due to some unholy union between a desperate man and say a frog or a toad (though no doubt this is currently a frequent occurrence in some parts of middle America), though maybe a lungfish or Cod would be better to assure one of the gills.

[Ricardo]

So anyway, what happened to the people of Atlantis, did they all live happily ever after then ? It's a bit before my time !

Edited September 11, 2012 by Ricardo

[maidu]

Atlantis was a mythical place. The only similarity, is Bangkokians also have their heads in the clouds - of superstition.

Thats brilliant bumpkin.....I suppose once you have your "Masters degree" you can explain all the fabricated data of the great global warming hoax.

Is 'woodcaulk' what you call that mass between your ears? Just kidding. But GW is not a hoax. It's only a hoax for those who are determined to clench their eyes and ears closed (with ear flaps?). Essentially all the scientists and environmentalists worldwide agree that average temperatures are rising decade by decade. Those who have visited glaciers and/or the poles are unequivical about it. Now, to what degree it's exacerbated by Man, is debatable. After hundreds of hours of personal research, I feel that Man is a major contributor to GW, on many levels. We don't have to agree note for note, but keep your eyes and ears open to what people are observing first hand. That will shed some light on the issue.

There was I starting to think you had written a good post until your last sentence. What hundreds of hours of personal research? On google? There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to support a theory of Anthropogenic Global Warming, it is all complete tosh. The world may be getting warmer, it may not, the world has gone through hundreds, if not thousands of cycles of climate change in it's history. If scientists were to direct their attention to that very large yellow hot thing in the sky we might stand a chance of minimising the effects on the global population, but then that would not get the billions of dollars of research funding for scientists that is provided by the billions of dollars in the hoax carbon credits trade would it.

Whoops, now you're juggling the framing of the discussion in order to make a point. The earlier post said "fabricated data of the great global warming hoax." So, that person claims all of GW is a hoax. Then the latter post inserts the word 'anthropogenic" meaning 'related to, resembling or caused by people' No one disputes climate has changed immensely in Earth's history. If you go back to Pangean times, the Congo River used to flow in to the Amazon basin and on westard to the Pacific. At other times, the entire planet was covered in a mile-thick layer of ice. We're talking about people-exacerbated changes that are happening decade by decade within a relatively infinitessimal span of Earth's timeline. btw, Wikipedia is a wealth of resources. So are many other online sites, and periodicals etc.

[maidu]

They will bathe in the glory that the flooding is not bad this year and say its all been succesful but Just you wait til the next normal rainy season when it will flood again and the ppl will revolt

Bkk suffers severe floods an average of every 5 years. 4 more to go. Better get those little boats tuned up and tethered to some stout poles (no offense to Polish people), there's going to be a lot of water to push toward the sea.

Venice and Amsterdam seem to cope,easy have amasked ball with Dutch Cap

tUK never looked back once the Orangemen waded in,mercantilism took offThe Flemish weaving Guilds make Jim Thompson spin in his abcence.

On thePolders Lelystad was built below sea level.

The Amert and wealthy Chinese dont care they will psh off to Hong Kong Melborne C Mai or somewhere nicer when the chute hits the fun.

The remaining watr rats of the city of the angels will adapt love me deep time.

Tukktuks with whores,sorry oars,Boatfines,canal markets,Underwater casinos and Indian tailors.Big C in a canoe.Swim-by muggings ,Somtam off a canoe the floating market.Swampy can be the best submarine hub etc

.Its all hpothetical the world is due to end 12.12 .12 Tom Booze's mayan Chronograph told me.An unheard American Magazine read by 3 Thai (owners in LA) will award it best Swamp

Hello Crocs its an open buffet

I think you took one too many pills from the 'poetic license' jar this morning

[Mosha]

It's a good job the polar melting is too far away to affect Thailand. If it was added to Bangkok sinking, they would be in trouble,

As to Master Plan Have they got any sort of plan? Never mind a master one.

[GentlemanJim]

Whoops, now you're juggling the framing of the discussion in order to make a point. The earlier post said "fabricated data of the great global warming hoax." So, that person claims all of GW is a hoax. Then the latter post inserts the word 'anthropogenic" meaning 'related to, resembling or caused by people' No one disputes climate has changed immensely in Earth's history. If you go back to Pangean times, the Congo River used to flow in to the Amazon basin and on westard to the Pacific. At other times, the entire planet was covered in a mile-thick layer of ice. We're talking about people-exacerbated changes that are happening decade by decade within a relatively infinitessimal span of Earth's timeline. btw, Wikipedia is a wealth of resources. So are many other online sites, and periodicals etc.

Whoops, I think you are doing the juggling Maidu. You said

Now, to what degree it's exacerbated by Man, is debatable. After hundreds of hours of personal research, I feel that Man is a major contributor to GW, on many levels

And I said

There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to support a theory of Anthropogenic Global Warming

With Anthropogenic, meaning, by your definition

'related to, resembling or caused by people'

So to clarify in your kind of language, I do not believe that Global Warming is being exacerbated (or contributed to in a major way) by man. Cattle farts produce more CO2 than air travel and shipping. To phrase that in my kind of language 'There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to support a theory of Anthropogenic Global Warming'. So, back to you, there was no juggling, I answered a statement made directly by you and I answered it directly and was not interested in the 'hoax' statement made earlier.

So, as you seem to have a general grip on things please explain why and in what areas man is a major contributor to Global Warming. This may have ramifications on how much BKK is going to sink or not.

Also re your trust in Wiki. It may be full of good info but must be treated with a pinch of salt sometimes. The authors of wiki are the readers. Anyone with a political leaning or a gripe or an agenda can go and edit or write about ANY subject on Wiki. Any subject that is politically charged or financially motivated must be researched in many many more ways than wiki

[Keesters]

Perhaps Thailand is looking to become the "Hub of Floods".

[maidu]

I've secured properties in N.Thailand on high ground. Even with a Biblical flood, I'll be high and dry. Speaking of Northernmost Thailand, we've got several advantages weather-wise: no sizable earthquake danger, no volcanos, no twisters, little flooding, no tsunami danger, some drought problems, no great pestilance (malaria and other infectious diseases are rare up here), not downwind from industry, never freezes or snows, no sandstorms. Probably the worst weather issue here is smoky air in Feb thru April. When compared to most other regions of the world, we got it pretty good.

If you look at where large cities (including Bangkok) are sited worldwide, you'll see that every one (no exceptions) are prone to at least one (and likely a slew) of the weather/geological drawbacks mentioned in the above paragraph.

I'm not suggesting Thailand site its capital city in a sensible place (God Forbid!). Let the chips fall where they may. Plus it may contribute to lessening overpopulation, when bunches of people die from water-borne diseases.

Edited September 11, 2012 by maidu

[DocN]

Just how many of your Isan- fellow- men /women, will loose their job, once Bangkok is gone? One 6th or 5th of the Thai-population lives or works in and near Bangkok, an even bigger part in businesses, that co-operate with companies or people in Bangkok, even from heavenly and dry Isan..

There will be quite a bit of construction work around replacing BK, I don't think Issan folk need worry all that much.

Long- or shorttime?

[JungleBiker]

...more cars mean, more greenhouse gases to be released, also with the fact that more trees will be cut down, more deforestation,

Hmmm... or does more cars mean more rubber tyres needed, and more rubber tyres means more trees planted (i.e. rubber trees)! And by the way, more greenhouse gases (CO2) means the rubber trees grow faster.

[Sayonarax]

Wow. Some many people have lots to learn. Time to stop chasing tail and learn some science.

[maidu]

...more cars mean, more greenhouse gases to be released, also with the fact that more trees will be cut down, more deforestation,

Hmmm... or does more cars mean more rubber tyres needed, and more rubber tyres means more trees planted (i.e. rubber trees)! And by the way, more greenhouse gases (CO2) means the rubber trees grow faster.

more rubber grown means a bit of money for the farmer, and a lot for the middle men. But more importantly, it means habitat destruction and death of other species. For those who think the planet is here 'to serve man' maybe that's ok. I had an esoteric g.f. in California who believed that without people, all other species would die. She thought peoples' nexus of consciousness kept all life, and the planet itself existing. It takes all types, I guess.