2013 Platinum Px250 Enduro 67,000B

[loserlazer]

another opinion from the biggest china hater here on this forum. Please let us know how you come up with all this stuff. what is it based on.

I see a lot of second hand dtrackers go for 100.000 baht. that is a more then a 50.000 baht write of.

i do not hate Chinese, just their products.

And, i am not asking you man, let rene answer this.

Here what i am seeing, many people support Chinese business on bikes but very less own one actually, looks like odd to me.

just check how old those d trackers going for 100 k, maybe 3- 4 years?

[Phronesis]

I haven't seen any dtracket sell for 100k usually 110-120 k

I just bought one for 100K

with genuine renthals, API ecu, LED indicators, race spec stainless steel exhaust, and alloy rack.

It has 20K on the clock.

Did I pay too much???

[wantan]

I haven't seen any dtracket sell for 100k usually 110-120 k

I just bought one for 100K

with genuine renthals, API ecu, LED indicators, race spec stainless steel exhaust, and alloy rack.

It has 20K on the clock.

Did I pay too much???

Depends on how old and what condition and if the original parts were included. But sounds OK for me

Some people here confuse the prices for what bikes are offered with the prices for what they are sold. People paying 120k for a D-Tracker with 20,000 km on it pay too much. And buying a cheap Honda Dual-Sport like the CRF-L that has been heavily abused for more than half the price of a new one shows serious lack of knowledge about such bikes. But many tourists come to LOS and believe the stories about the "unbreakable Honda". So there is a good chance to find a naive expat.

[taninthai]

There is currently two d trackers for sale in classifieds 110k and 155k the 155k has extremely hopefull at that price.

[wantan]

There is currently two d trackers for sale in classifieds 110k and 155k the 155k has extremely hopefull at that price.

Yep, the one for 110k has 1,838km on it

Selling a used bike for the price of a new one just because i made some "modifications" is ... don't know

But there are more D-Trackers in the Classifieds. One 2010 with 14,000km for 90k. And that are the prices for what they are offered, not sold!

[taninthai]

The one for 110k with less than 2000 kilometres on it is a good buy IMO the one for 155k well he may be better pitting it back to original parts and selling all the mods separately ,I'd be very surprised if it sold anywhere near the advertised price

[pokerkid]

The one for 110k with less than 2000 kilometres on it is a good buy IMO the one for 155k well he may be better pitting it back to original parts and selling all the mods separately ,I'd be very surprised if it sold anywhere near the advertised price

its not selling for 110K. its just the asking price. i have never paid the asking price for anything second hand so i guess the owner can go down 2500-7500 depending on how quick he needs cash.

but even at 110k it is a big depreciation in just 2 years imho

just seen the advert for the 2010 dtracker with an ASKING price of 90K, now that looks like a bargain to me and how about that depreciation. almost the value of a brand new platinum. not sure though what the price of a new dtracker was in 2010.

http://classifieds.thaivisa.com/automotives-vehicles/motorcycles/kawasaki-d-tracker-250-2010-214256.html

Edited March 11, 2013 by pokerkid

[pokerkid]

another opinion from the biggest china hater here on this forum. Please let us know how you come up with all this stuff. what is it based on.

I see a lot of second hand dtrackers go for 100.000 baht. that is a more then a 50.000 baht write of.

i do not hate Chinese, just their products.

And, i am not asking you man, let rene answer this.

Here what i am seeing, many people support Chinese business on bikes but very less own one actually, looks like odd to me.

just check how old those d trackers going for 100 k, maybe 3- 4 years?

how about 2 years , the proof is there on the net .I just dont want to spend 30 min looking at expired ads

looks like you laughed a bit too quick about your own silly post.

also please let us know how you make all this stuff up, where do you get your inspiration from

Edited March 11, 2013 by pokerkid

[rene123]

The main difference I notice between these threads and other bike specific threads is that on the other threads people report and explain the problems or failures they have had ,obviously any bike that you take off road and throw around is gonna have problems and bits fall off but we never seem to hear from the owners of these bikes or a couple of the owners that do post just claim that they have had two years trouble free off roading which I find quite impossible to believe as even a high end motocross bike used off road is gonna have a few problems if used how it's supposed to be used.

What do you mean... used as they are supposed to be used? Does that mean people who buy high performance motorcycles should ride them at speeds in excess of 300 km/hr? Does it mean that people who buy 250 enduro motorbikes are supposed to jump over cliffs and down mountain trails?

Many people, myself included, just want a motorbike that doesn't cost a fortune and actually FEELS like a motorbike and not a scooter. I have no interest in racing or jumping over logs and screaming down dirt trails. But, I like riding my Kawasaki 250 motard on the roads and highways, but with a little bit of trail riding included. Many people new to Thailand are a bit reluctant to spend 160,000 baht when they can get something similar for about 60,000 baht. That is where the Chinese knockoffs come in. If they need a bit of extra maintenance then so be it.

rene, i think you still do not understand, we do not count Chinese as proper bikes.

Besides, if you buy a Chinese bike, it will cost you more while owning it and while selling it, why do not people want to understand that?

On top of that, you have to ask yourself and post here the answer : 'why did you buy a kawasaki d tracker than instead of a Chinese knock off?

Now you are leaving and can sell your d tracker nearly for the same price and i am sure you spent nothing on repairs right?

I bought the D-Tracker motard on the advice of an elderly friend who also has one as well as an old JRD cruiser. I have no intention of selling mine because it will be stored with a friend while I am away. I'll be back next fall or early winter sometime. I am 173 cm tall, but I have long legs and I can stand flat footed on the ground with the motard. I prefer the upright seating of the D-Tracker rather than the crouched seating position of the road rockets. Although the cruiser style bikes are comfortable, they are almost as difficult to get around in the city as a car, and parking is the same. I've ridden my friends old JRD and it was my first introduction to using a clutch on a bike. It still goes brmmm when you turn the key, but it has only a 150 cc motor for a bike that should have at least 350 or 400. My friend says he has to replace starters occasionally and other minor parts each season, whereas he never touches his D-Tracker other than to have it serviced regularly. Because I'm not a mechanic I want as reliable a bike as I can get. I don't want to be broken down on the highway in Nakhon Nowhere with no parts available. That is what would keep me from buying a Chinese bike. If I had a fleet of bikes like some guys who are always tinkering with them, then a Chinese bike might be an option. But for me it's a no brainer. I was lucky finding the Kawasaki I did because it only had long distance road miles on it. It was in very good condition. I was warned about the rental bikes that may or may not have been abused. I'm willing to take advice from anyone who knows a lot more than me... which is almost everyone.

[BSJ]

The main difference I notice between these threads and other bike specific threads is that on the other threads people report and explain the problems or failures they have had ,obviously any bike that you take off road and throw around is gonna have problems and bits fall off but we never seem to hear from the owners of these bikes or a couple of the owners that do post just claim that they have had two years trouble free off roading which I find quite impossible to believe as even a high end motocross bike used off road is gonna have a few problems if used how it's supposed to be used.

What do you mean... used as they are supposed to be used? Does that mean people who buy high performance motorcycles should ride them at speeds in excess of 300 km/hr? Does it mean that people who buy 250 enduro motorbikes are supposed to jump over cliffs and down mountain trails?

Many people, myself included, just want a motorbike that doesn't cost a fortune and actually FEELS like a motorbike and not a scooter. I have no interest in racing or jumping over logs and screaming down dirt trails. But, I like riding my Kawasaki 250 motard on the roads and highways, but with a little bit of trail riding included. Many people new to Thailand are a bit reluctant to spend 160,000 baht when they can get something similar for about 60,000 baht. That is where the Chinese knockoffs come in. If they need a bit of extra maintenance then so be it.

rene, i think you still do not understand, we do not count Chinese as proper bikes.

Besides, if you buy a Chinese bike, it will cost you more while owning it and while selling it, why do not people want to understand that?

On top of that, you have to ask yourself and post here the answer : 'why did you buy a kawasaki d tracker than instead of a Chinese knock off?

Now you are leaving and can sell your d tracker nearly for the same price and i am sure you spent nothing on repairs right?

I bought the D-Tracker motard on the advice of an elderly friend who also has one as well as an old JRD cruiser. I have no intention of selling mine because it will be stored with a friend while I am away. I'll be back next fall or early winter sometime. I am 173 cm tall, but I have long legs and I can stand flat footed on the ground with the motard. I prefer the upright seating of the D-Tracker rather than the crouched seating position of the road rockets. Although the cruiser style bikes are comfortable, they are almost as difficult to get around in the city as a car, and parking is the same. I've ridden my friends old JRD and it was my first introduction to using a clutch on a bike. It still goes brmmm when you turn the key, but it has only a 150 cc motor for a bike that should have at least 350 or 400. My friend says he has to replace starters occasionally and other minor parts each season, whereas he never touches his D-Tracker other than to have it serviced regularly. Because I'm not a mechanic I want as reliable a bike as I can get. I don't want to be broken down on the highway in Nakhon Nowhere with no parts available. That is what would keep me from buying a Chinese bike. If I had a fleet of bikes like some guys who are always tinkering with them, then a Chinese bike might be an option. But for me it's a no brainer. I was lucky finding the Kawasaki I did because it only had long distance road miles on it. It was in very good condition. I was warned about the rental bikes that may or may not have been abused. I'm willing to take advice from anyone who knows a lot more than me... which is almost everyone.

173cm.....I thought you were taller!

[taninthai]

The one for 110k with less than 2000 kilometres on it is a good buy IMO the one for 155k well he may be better pitting it back to original parts and selling all the mods separately ,I'd be very surprised if it sold anywhere near the advertised price

its not selling for 110K. its just the asking price. i have never paid the asking price for anything second hand so i guess the owner can go down 2500-7500 depending on how quick he needs cash.

but even at 110k it is a big depreciation in just 2 years imho

It's not that big a loss we are talking 800 Gbp in two years ,you got to remember everyone wants to get rid of their d trackers to get the the all new much better in every way Honda CRf 250 motard

[Phronesis]

I haven't seen any dtracket sell for 100k usually 110-120 k

I just bought one for 100K

with genuine renthals, API ecu, LED indicators, race spec stainless steel exhaust, and alloy rack.

It has 20K on the clock.

Did I pay too much???

Depends on how old and what condition and if the original parts were included. But sounds OK for me

Some people here confuse the prices for what bikes are offered with the prices for what they are sold. People paying 120k for a D-Tracker with 20,000 km on it pay too much. And buying a cheap Honda Dual-Sport like the CRF-L that has been heavily abused for more than half the price of a new one shows serious lack of knowledge about such bikes. But many tourists come to LOS and believe the stories about the "unbreakable Honda". So there is a good chance to find a naive expat.

I have owned (and raced) bikes since I was a lad. As I posted elsewhere I was actually about to purchase a Lifan cross, because I was "burnt out" trying to find a decent bike mechanic. I also have a number of personal horror stories resulting from having Chang Lings work on my bikes.

As I posted before, my theory was buy the Lifan and do all of the maintenance myself...An achievable strategy because of the low tech spec of the bike.

However, the D-Tracker came up for sale. Personally, I feel I paid a bit much for it at 100KTHB, but it is in spotless condition and was previously owned by an engineer who had a good eye for detail. It also has all of the aftermarket mods that I would of probably carried out myself, and besides saving on the money for those, In my mind I also saved on the TIME to source, purchase, and install. There is so much talk here about money...depreciation this...blah blah purchase price that...BUT WHAT ABOUT YOUR TIME?

The only problem I had with the bike was a loose gear lever. So the other day I went to the Kawasaki shop and the problem was just a stretched retaining bolt (the small 10mm one) the mechanic working on my bike seemed to be careful enough and looked like he was not a complete moron...AND SO I made a FATAL MISTAKE. I askED him to adjust the suspension down an inch or so to give my a firmer ride...and then went off to grab some noodles.

When I got back I inspected the shock and F__K Me. They had used a screw driver and hammer to adjust the preload. The preload washer now has a large screw driver gouge mark on every tooth.

So now I have a perfect looking D-Tracker....with a trashed preload washer.

And the total cost for all of their handy work....10THB for the new bolt for my gear lever.

And the cost to replace the preload washer they have F__KED...who knows...probably 2000KTHB plus and 3 to 4 week wait.

So the moral to the story is never...EVER...trust a Thai bike mechanic....even if they work at a dealer.

On a postive note the D-tracker is a cracker, with the API ecu and full stainless race spec exhaust it goes like the clappers and is satifsying throaty. The race spec ECU also delivers a satisfying "fuelled up" exhaust crack when shifting up at big revs.

An absolutely perfect mid life purchase...

[pokerkid]

Still no issues with the bike, only the forum,

the forum is about the platinum 250,

if this was about cars,jap vs chinese vs any other make would the thread have got so distorted???

i think not,

this bike is going well running alongside crf,s daily

if it lasts a third of the time i will buy another for what they cost,

and the honda will have lost what?? in depreciation,

yes what you lose on a crf in a year i can buy a new px250,

THANKS to all the supporters out there

Deano

you are right, the tread is about the px250 and now we are talking about dtrackers. sorry bout that. Guess I (and some others) got a bit carried away. still very interested in hearing about your ,and other owners, experiences with the px250

Edited March 11, 2013 by pokerkid

[wantan]

its not selling for 110K. its just the asking price. i have never paid the asking price for anything second hand so i guess the owner can go down 2500-7500 depending on how quick he needs cash.

but even at 110k it is a big depreciation in just 2 years imho

It's not that big a loss we are talking 800 Gbp in two years ,you got to remember everyone wants to get rid of their d trackers to get the the all new much better in every way Honda CRf 250 motard

Didn't know that the Pound is so weak. But whatever your homecountry may be, we are talking about a loss of more than 40k Baht in less than 2,000 km, nothing else.

So now you claim that a D-Tracker suddenly lost value, now that "everyone wants to get a Honda motard"? And a few months before you would have suggested to better buy a D-Tracker instead of a Lifan motard. You should never start a business as financial consultant

And for the members who now are confused about all this china bickering: Don't worry, the Platinum is Made In Thailand, same same cheap Honda and Kawasaki and Yamaha. Is this good or bad? Don't know

[loserlazer]

The main difference I notice between these threads and other bike specific threads is that on the other threads people report and explain the problems or failures they have had ,obviously any bike that you take off road and throw around is gonna have problems and bits fall off but we never seem to hear from the owners of these bikes or a couple of the owners that do post just claim that they have had two years trouble free off roading which I find quite impossible to believe as even a high end motocross bike used off road is gonna have a few problems if used how it's supposed to be used.

What do you mean... used as they are supposed to be used? Does that mean people who buy high performance motorcycles should ride them at speeds in excess of 300 km/hr? Does it mean that people who buy 250 enduro motorbikes are supposed to jump over cliffs and down mountain trails?

Many people, myself included, just want a motorbike that doesn't cost a fortune and actually FEELS like a motorbike and not a scooter. I have no interest in racing or jumping over logs and screaming down dirt trails. But, I like riding my Kawasaki 250 motard on the roads and highways, but with a little bit of trail riding included. Many people new to Thailand are a bit reluctant to spend 160,000 baht when they can get something similar for about 60,000 baht. That is where the Chinese knockoffs come in. If they need a bit of extra maintenance then so be it.

rene, i think you still do not understand, we do not count Chinese as proper bikes.

Besides, if you buy a Chinese bike, it will cost you more while owning it and while selling it, why do not people want to understand that?

On top of that, you have to ask yourself and post here the answer : 'why did you buy a kawasaki d tracker than instead of a Chinese knock off?

Now you are leaving and can sell your d tracker nearly for the same price and i am sure you spent nothing on repairs right?

I bought the D-Tracker motard on the advice of an elderly friend who also has one as well as an old JRD cruiser. I have no intention of selling mine because it will be stored with a friend while I am away. I'll be back next fall or early winter sometime. I am 173 cm tall, but I have long legs and I can stand flat footed on the ground with the motard. I prefer the upright seating of the D-Tracker rather than the crouched seating position of the road rockets. Although the cruiser style bikes are comfortable, they are almost as difficult to get around in the city as a car, and parking is the same. I've ridden my friends old JRD and it was my first introduction to using a clutch on a bike. It still goes brmmm when you turn the key, but it has only a 150 cc motor for a bike that should have at least 350 or 400. My friend says he has to replace starters occasionally and other minor parts each season, whereas he never touches his D-Tracker other than to have it serviced regularly. Because I'm not a mechanic I want as reliable a bike as I can get. I don't want to be broken down on the highway in Nakhon Nowhere with no parts available. That is what would keep me from buying a Chinese bike. If I had a fleet of bikes like some guys who are always tinkering with them, then a Chinese bike might be an option. But for me it's a no brainer. I was lucky finding the Kawasaki I did because it only had long distance road miles on it. It was in very good condition. I was warned about the rental bikes that may or may not have been abused. I'm willing to take advice from anyone who knows a lot more than me... which is almost everyone.

Thanks for your confession rene.

You are wise enough to get a d tracker instead of a chinese crap.

I hope god grants some wisdom to some others too:lol:

[taninthai]

^

Hahaha knew I'd reel you in with that one,bites every time.

On depriciation obviously It's one of the pitfalls of buying a new bike it certainly doesn't influence whatbike I buy or why I bought it.

[loserlazer]

The one for 110k with less than 2000 kilometres on it is a good buy IMO the one for 155k well he may be better pitting it back to original parts and selling all the mods separately ,I'd be very surprised if it sold anywhere near the advertised price

its not selling for 110K. its just the asking price. i have never paid the asking price for anything second hand so i guess the owner can go down 2500-7500 depending on how quick he needs cash.

but even at 110k it is a big depreciation in just 2 years imho

It's not that big a loss we are talking 800 Gbp in two years ,you got to remember everyone wants to get rid of their d trackers to get the the all new much better in every way Honda CRf 250 motard

I know, the whole depreciation discussion was started by the loser. just wanted to prove him wrong and i guess i did. he is the one writing all this rubbish about losing a lot of money on the chinese bikes but it turns out the money lost in just 2 years on a dtracker can almost buy you a platinum.

now for the last time, i am defenitly not a fan of chinese bikes but enjoy reading these threads about them..Guys like the loser are just soo annoying with their bullshit comments and they make some of the OP's leave the discussion.

and about your comment that the new crf supermoto is better in every way then the dtracker................... lets save that for another thread.

Pokerkid, you are getting aggressive again. It looks like i am pressing some right points again, huh? It looks like your ass pain is an everlasting one man. just stop that. You sound funny. Hahahs.

Look, i explained my points to you before but everytime i state my opinions, you start to scratch your a.s again. You just go buy chinese bike or do not but why do you care what i say? I really do not understand. So you say we only speak about good experiences here and fun. If you have the right to say good things, i have the right to say bad things as well.

People have the right to question and be suspicious, what is wrong with that? Some like to question, some will depart from this world like a happy sheep.

Besides, depreciation is totally relative to many variables not only time. Some might need cash fast some might wait. Some bikes are abused and cooked some is good. Some has demand some out of fashion tech and do you beleive everything you see on these ads? No accident no rental never but 3 years in pattaya with three owners, blah blah?

And 30 percent deppreciation over three years not that bad. At least there is something in one piece to sell:D

Show us a 3 years old chinese bike for sale, maybe you can find 2 or 3?

Please do not be naive.

You tried to prove i am wrong but all you do is proving how kidlike you are.

You act like a kid ashaming yourself all the time.

Just grow man please. If you cannot at least just ignore me.

Edited March 11, 2013 by loserlazer

[wantan]

If you have the right to say good things, i have the right to say bad things as well.

And this amazing thing you have to say - loaded with all of loserlasers personal wisdom and centuries of loserlasers personal experience - is:

"Chinese bikes are crap!"

How old are you? Sometimes i wonder and wonder and wonder...

[loserlazer]

If you have the right to say good things, i have the right to say bad things as well.

And this amazing thing you have to say - loaded with all of loserlasers personal wisdom and centuries of loserlasers personal experience - is:

"Chinese bikes are crap!"

How old are you? Sometimes i wonder and wonder and wonder...

do not be too selective on my post wantan, just consider it as a whole, if you pick words from here and there, we end up nowhere.

the matter is i have the right to criticize and be septic on cheap chinese products and others have the right not to listen to my personal crappy wisdom and go buy one, right?

anyway, people just bitch and moan here and never buy a chinese bike at the end.

and wantan, i wonder how elderly are you?

Edited March 12, 2013 by loserlazer

[wantan]

If you have the right to say good things, i have the right to say bad things as well.

And this amazing thing you have to say - loaded with all of loserlasers personal wisdom and centuries of loserlasers personal experience - is:

"Chinese bikes are crap!"

How old are you? Sometimes i wonder and wonder and wonder...

do not be too selective on my post wantan, just consider it as a whole, if you pick words from here and there, we end up nowhere.

the matter is i have the right to criticize and be septic on cheap chinese products and others have the right not to listen to my personal crappy wisdom and go buy one, right?

anyway, people just bitch and moan here and never buy a chinese bike at the end.

and wantan, i wonder how elderly are you?

I considered your post as a whole. But there isn't much you critizise on the Platinum PX250. You just call all chinese bikes dangerous and crappy. Do you have any critics regarding the PX250 other than that? If not, than why upsetting the owners of such bikes and disturbing any useful discussion in these threads?

And i am sure Platinum will be happy to be constantly on top of TV bike forum. I am sure they sell more like this than if noone would talk about them

[loserlazer]

wantan, i wish more happiness and most importantly wisdom for platinum owners if that is what you want me to say.

Edited March 12, 2013 by loserlazer

[taninthai]

I really don't know why you have the same posters moaning on here when people criticise Chinese bikes it's pretty much well known worldwide that they are cheap crap no one is bullshitting just stating facts any Chinese knock off is made from cheap materials weather it be tshirts electronic goods or bikes

Don't take it so personal people tell me they don't like my bike so what they are entitled to their opinion ,the people that tell me this are old guys who like the the old triumps and BSA style bikes I wouldn't expect them to like my bike in a million years they are a different generation and have completely different tastes.

The Chinese Market isn't gonna change over night if you buy cheap you don't expect quality and a lOngtime reliability or good service and that goes for anything you buy not just bikes .

[taninthai]

to me it feels a bit like this sometimes1.jpg

Don Quixote (taninthai) and his moronic sidekick Sancho Panza (loserlazer) fighting the chinese windmills.

They just cant see that the chinese bikes are slowly getting better . maybe not there yet but getting there.

in all honesty they couldnt get any worse could they,what are you lot waiting for 10 years to pass so you can then say see "i told you so" no one is argueing that one day china may make a decent bike not just a copy of an already decent bike.

[theoldgit]

Flame removed, please keep it civil.

[loserlazer]

to me it feels a bit like this sometimes1.jpg

They just cant see that the chinese bikes are slowly getting better . maybe not there yet but getting there.

in all honesty they couldnt get any worse could they,what are you lot waiting for 10 years to pass so you can then say see "i told you so" no one is argueing that one day china may make a decent bike not just a copy of an already decent bike.

It sure could,look at how far platinum has come. the bike from a couple of years ago was a piece of crap. this bike looks so much better and that honda xr200 copy engine could turn out to be very reliable. If only we can get some owners back here to make some reports......................

are you still talking? Reliable Chinese and how far platinum has come? You just answer first:

Did you find a 3 years old Chinese bike for sale? we are still waiting for you to show us some but not many around so i assume no hopes, aye?

i am sure they all dissolved within three years so nothing to sell

Edited March 13, 2013 by theoldgit
Flame from quotes removed

[pokerkid]

to me it feels a bit like this sometimes1.jpg

They just cant see that the chinese bikes are slowly getting better . maybe not there yet but getting there.

in all honesty they couldnt get any worse could they,what are you lot waiting for 10 years to pass so you can then say see "i told you so" no one is argueing that one day china may make a decent bike not just a copy of an already decent bike.

It sure could,look at how far platinum has come. the bike from a couple of years ago was a piece of crap. this bike looks so much better and that honda xr200 copy engine could turn out to be very reliable. If only we can get some owners back here to make some reports......................

are you still talking? Reliable Chinese and how far platinum has come? You just answer first:

Did you find a 3 years old Chinese bike for sale? we are still waiting for you to show us some but not many around so i assume no hopes, aye?

i am sure they all dissolved within three years so nothing to sell

sigh................. Ok, i will bite Sancho.

We all agree that the old platinums were a bunch of crap and for that matter also a lot if not most of the older chinese bikes. The point of this thread is to show that the Platinum px 250 ( a thai made bike) is wayyyyyyyyyyyy better than any old platinums and at the same time there are a lot of chinese bikes coming out that also look quite good. I also said at many occasions that the chinese bikes are not on the same level with japanese bikes and most likely will not be in the near future. Hell , even the thai made kwakers are not the same quality as the japanese made ones.

About finding second hand bikes , please do read my older posts careful again and you will see (i hope ) that i was talking about 2 year old dtrackers for sale at 100K baht and that i did not want to search for old DTRACKER ads. got it now ? ( if you didn't get it : NOT CHINESE BIKE ADS because i agree that older platinums and chinese bikes are of inferior quality to the current px250)

lets compare this platinum with another thai made bike, the tiger boxer 250 and you will see that second hand boxers go usually for 50-54 k baht.They used to cost 72.000 new. This is the kind of depreciation you can expect a platinum to have in 2 years from now. And i think the px250 is a higher quality bike then the tiger.20-25K in 2-3 years that is half the dtrackers depreciation.(Maybe I opened another can of worms here but then it has to be that way.)

This can be important for the kind of buyers that choose a platinum px250 over a dtracker or klx. Remember here, not everyone looks at the purchase of a bike the same way you do.

I guess it is useless discussing more with you about this subject, you simply don't (want to) get it so i will not discuss this with you any more.

this was pokerkid to loserlazer, over and out. will not reply any more to your questions. i can understand deaneburne now, tired of some forum members here.

To taninthai, you sound like you are more reasonable then the loser, happy to discuss things with you further. lol

Edited March 13, 2013 by pokerkid

[BSJ]

To put in some sort of perspective you just have to look at the annual registration figures, brand by brand, model by model. Anyone have that sort of info?

[taninthai]

i find the whole chinese bikes threads extremely tedious boring and repetitive,just going over the same <deleted> all the time ,if the day comes when chinese produce a decent bike it will no longer be cheap because they will have to use real original parts not cheap copies,they will also have to build proper production lines and have proper QA in place all this costs money and will push the price of the bikes up, so all those waiting for a cheap reliable chinese bike will have a long wait and when it finnally arrives it will no longer be cheap.the day is never gonna come when you can buy a good chinese bike for 40,50 or 60k never.

[pokerkid]

i find the whole chinese bikes threads extremely tedious boring and repetitive,just going over the same <deleted> all the time ,if the day comes when chinese produce a decent bike it will no longer be cheap because they will have to use real original parts not cheap copies,they will also have to build proper production lines and have proper QA in place all this costs money and will push the price of the bikes up, so all those waiting for a cheap reliable chinese bike will have a long wait and when it finnally arrives it will no longer be cheap.the day is never gonna come when you can buy a good chinese bike for 40,50 or 60k never.

that's one way of looking at things.

The other way can be, hey I can buy a good looking bike with decent power for 67000 baht which i can sell in 2-3 years for say 40k or more. If I dont have too many costs in that period I had a good deal. If any problems will arise within 2 years i think most of it will still be covered under warranty if its worth more than the paper its written on. ONLY TIME WILL TELL.

Edited March 13, 2013 by pokerkid

[taninthai]

i dont know how long you have been in thailand and how much you know about the places selling these bikes,but you are never gonna sell aplatinum 2-3 year old bike for 40 k,the warranty dont make me laugh where are you gonna take it back to big c/tesco lotus the stall wont be there anymore ,the same with the shops that open up to sell them in my experience after two to three months the shop will have shut and disappeared.

if you are so sold on them pokerkid go and buy one ,i dont know if you have seen one in real life or are you going buy the pictures when you say its agreat looking bike ,i think you can make any bike look great in pictures however up close in real life its a different story.