Help With Financial Side For A Spouse Visa To England

[KarenBlackwell]

my thai husband came to england on a holiday visa, we have been back in thailand for 2 months now and i want to apply for spouse visa. due to him coming on holiday and me coming back and forth to thailand i havent meet the 18,500 pounds, i do bank work and my boss has offered me a full time position along with a contract on my return to england which give me well over the 18,500. she has also offered my husband a job following a successful interview. can i get the spouse visa with my letter of employment and contract. thankyou

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[7by7]

You having a firm job offer to start within three months of arriving back in the UK can count toward the requirement, but you also need to have been earning the required amount for at least the 6 months prior to your husband's application.

Potential earnings your husband may have when he arrives in the UK don't count, neither does any earned income he may have had prior to applying.

Unearned income, e.g. from investments, either of you have does count.

Do you or your husband have any savings? Savings over £16k can be used to reduce the required income.

See under Financial Requirement in UK Settlement Visa Basics for an overview, and this document for a detailed explanation.

Edited October 18, 2012 by 7by7

[KarenBlackwell]

You having a firm job offer to start within three months of arriving back in the UK can count toward the requirement, but you also need to have been earning the required amount for at least the 6 months prior to your husband's application.

Potential earnings your husband may have when he arrives in the UK don't count, neither does any earned income he may have had prior to applying.

Unearned income, e.g. from investments, either of you have does count.

Do you or your husband have any savings? Savings over £16k can be used to reduce the required income.

See under Financial Requirement in UK Settlement Visa Basics for an overview, and this document for a detailed explanation.

i havent been earning the required amount maybe around 12 grand,, i was back and forth to thailand and showing my husband england..i have savings but they,ve only been im my bank 2 weeks, its the firm job offer that i was hoping would go in my favour, is there any point applying

[KarenBlackwell]

You having a firm job offer to start within three months of arriving back in the UK can count toward the requirement, but you also need to have been earning the required amount for at least the 6 months prior to your husband's application.

Potential earnings your husband may have when he arrives in the UK don't count, neither does any earned income he may have had prior to applying.

Unearned income, e.g. from investments, either of you have does count.

Do you or your husband have any savings? Savings over £16k can be used to reduce the required income.

See under Financial Requirement in UK Settlement Visa Basics for an overview, and this document for a detailed explanation.

i havent been earning the required amount maybe around 12 grand,, i was back and forth to thailand and showing my husband england..i have savings but they,ve only been im my bank 2 weeks, its the firm job offer that i was hoping would go in my favour, is there any point applying

my father would happily sponser my husband ,,hes retired with savings, do you think it would be better if he applied

[VisasPlus]

I think any application with your current financial circumstances will be refused. As previously said, you must have been in the same employment for at least 6 months with a gross annual income of 18,600 GBP. To work out the annual gross income the ECO will take the lowest monthly salary of the 6 months and multiply it by 12.

[VisasPlus]

You having a firm job offer to start within three months of arriving back in the UK can count toward the requirement, but you also need to have been earning the required amount for at least the 6 months prior to your husband's application.

Potential earnings your husband may have when he arrives in the UK don't count, neither does any earned income he may have had prior to applying.

Unearned income, e.g. from investments, either of you have does count.

Do you or your husband have any savings? Savings over £16k can be used to reduce the required income.

See under Financial Requirement in UK Settlement Visa Basics for an overview, and this document for a detailed explanation.

i havent been earning the required amount maybe around 12 grand,, i was back and forth to thailand and showing my husband england..i have savings but they,ve only been im my bank 2 weeks, its the firm job offer that i was hoping would go in my favour, is there any point applying

my father would happily sponser my husband ,,hes retired with savings, do you think it would be better if he applied

Job offers do not count.

The only way your father's savings will help is if they are "gifted" to you or your husband ( and evidence of the gift provided), and then under your, or his, control for a full 6 months. If the ECO suspects that the "gift" is a loan of any sort, the application will be refused.

[KarenBlackwell]

You having a firm job offer to start within three months of arriving back in the UK can count toward the requirement, but you also need to have been earning the required amount for at least the 6 months prior to your husband's application.

Potential earnings your husband may have when he arrives in the UK don't count, neither does any earned income he may have had prior to applying.

Unearned income, e.g. from investments, either of you have does count.

Do you or your husband have any savings? Savings over £16k can be used to reduce the required income.

See under Financial Requirement in UK Settlement Visa Basics for an overview, and this document for a detailed explanation.

i havent been earning the required amount maybe around 12 grand,, i was back and forth to thailand and showing my husband england..i have savings but they,ve only been im my bank 2 weeks, its the firm job offer that i was hoping would go in my favour, is there any point applying

my father would happily sponser my husband ,,hes retired with savings, do you think it would be better if he applied

Job offers do not count.

The only way your father's savings will help is if they are "gifted" to you or your husband ( and evidence of the gift provided), and then under your, or his, control for a full 6 months. If the ECO suspects that the "gift" is a loan of any sort, the application will be refused.

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what if my father applied for his visa and not me, maybe some family visa

[DonW]

You dont apply for his visa, he does. Tjhe only way your father could be part of the visa application process is if you divorced him, got your old Fella to enter a civil partnership with him and then bring him over that way.

Why dont you just apply for a visit visa for 6 months, work whilst he stays in the UK so you gain the work history and then he goes back and applies for the settlement visa. Easy

[KarenBlackwell]

You dont apply for his visa, he does. Tjhe only way your father could be part of the visa application process is if you divorced him, got your old Fella to enter a civil partnership with him and then bring him over that way.

Why dont you just apply for a visit visa for 6 months, work whilst he stays in the UK so you gain the work history and then he goes back and applies for the settlement visa. Easy

just returned from england from a tourist visa he stayed 4 months, so i believe i cannot apply for another tourist visa for another 6 months. my father is his father-in-law dosent that mean he is family and my father can sponser him, im not sure gonna check this out,

[VisasPlus]

You dont apply for his visa, he does. Tjhe only way your father could be part of the visa application process is if you divorced him, got your old Fella to enter a civil partnership with him and then bring him over that way.

Why dont you just apply for a visit visa for 6 months, work whilst he stays in the UK so you gain the work history and then he goes back and applies for the settlement visa. Easy

just returned from england from a tourist visa he stayed 4 months, so i believe i cannot apply for another tourist visa for another 6 months. my father is his father-in-law dosent that mean he is family and my father can sponser him, im not sure gonna check this out,

Sponsor him for what ? Do you want him to visit UK or to settle in UK ?

[KarenBlackwell]

You dont apply for his visa, he does. Tjhe only way your father could be part of the visa application process is if you divorced him, got your old Fella to enter a civil partnership with him and then bring him over that way.

Why dont you just apply for a visit visa for 6 months, work whilst he stays in the UK so you gain the work history and then he goes back and applies for the settlement visa. Easy

just returned from england from a tourist visa he stayed 4 months, so i believe i cannot apply for another tourist visa for another 6 months. my father is his father-in-law dosent that mean he is family and my father can sponser him, im not sure gonna check this out,

Sponsor him for what ? Do you want him to visit UK or to settle in UK ?

we want to go and work in england for 1 year, i wanted to apply for a spouse visa but if i cannnot what about some family visa,

[theoldgit]

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[ThaiVisaExpress]

You will not qualify as already pointed out by Tony under the current rules.

[7by7]

Visitors, family or general, can only spend a maximum of 6 months in the UK per visit and cannot work.

At present, you and he don't meet the financial requirements for settlement. (There is no settlement category "To join father in law," and third party support is no longer allowed under the rules.)

If your husband only wants to come to the UK and work for 1 year then the only option I can see is some form of work permit. See Working in the UK.

But I don't think he'll qualify for that.

[KarenBlackwell]

Visitors, family or general, can only spend a maximum of 6 months in the UK per visit and cannot work.

At present, you and he don't meet the financial requirements for settlement. (There is no settlement category "To join father in law," and third party support is no longer allowed under the rules.)

If your husband only wants to come to the UK and work for 1 year then the only option I can see is some form of work permit. See Working in the UK.

But I don't think he'll qualify for that.

so if i stay in thailand for another 6 months and get a gift of 16,000 pounds plus my contract for guarenteed work i should get the spouse visa then

[Kiggs]

No from what i understand you need to have been working for 6mths. As Visa plus said post #6 Job offers dont count. If you want to pass the requirements without a job you need to have 62k in the bank.

Im sure this is wrong in someway but its close.

[KarenBlackwell]

No from what i understand you need to have been working for 6mths. As Visa plus said post #6 Job offers dont count. If you want to pass the requirements without a job you need to have 62k in the bank.

Im sure this is wrong in someway but its close.

i cant believe how hard it is to get a visa, theres got to be somewhere around this other than me going back to england to work alone for 6 months, its all rubbish i,ve got a good job offer, i own property, were married, hes been to england before on a tourist visa, proper fed up...thanks for all your above advice

[Kiggs]

Its a killer. Im in England atm and this is our 2nd go at getting a settlement visa. Im lucky in someways because i have seen my wife twice this year. There are ppl in here that have not seen there better half for over 12mths.

How bad does that sound! I have seen my wife twice this year. <deleted> i will be glad when this is over.................................................................

[KarenBlackwell]

Its a killer. Im in England atm and this is our 2nd go at getting a settlement visa. Im lucky in someways because i have seen my wife twice this year. There are ppl in here that have not seen there better half for over 12mths.

How bad does that sound! I have seen my wife twice this year. <deleted> i will be glad when this is over.................................................................

im sure you will,,its so wrong for genuine people...im determined not to leave my husband so heres another question, if i cant get the spouse visa, i will try for another tourist visa, am i right in saying you dont need savings or wage slips showing you earn 18,600. the other question is he stayed in england 5 months on his tourist visa and we returned to thailand 2 months ago, whats this 6 month rule

[Kiggs]

From what i have been told, You can only got to the UK for a max of 6mths in 12..... As for money i think you have to show you can afford the trip. 2 k in the bank should do it. You can get your father to sponsor him ( i think) i think the return to Thailand part is covered as you both live there.

[KarenBlackwell]

From what i have been told, You can only got to the UK for a max of 6mths in 12..... As for money i think you have to show you can afford the trip. 2 k in the bank should do it. You can get your father to sponsor him ( i think) i think the return to Thailand part is covered as you both live there.

i,ve got my guarenteed job offer, will that be enough,,,so i,ll stay here for 4 months then apply for a tourist visa. i,ll send my husband to work in thailand earning 6000 baht a month ,,,,uuurrrrr

Edited October 19, 2012 by KarenBlackwell

[7by7]

Have you actually read the Immigration Directorate Instructions document I linked to earlier; which explains the financial requirement in full?

A firm job offer on your return to the UK does count, provided you have also been earning at least £18,600 p..a. outside the UK for at least the 6 months prior to your return.

Savings above £16,000 will reduce the amount of required income on a sliding scale; the more savings you have above this the less income you need until savings of £62,000 or more mean that no income is required.

These savings can be gifted to you by a family member or friend, but they must be a gift, not a loan and have been in your possession and under your complete control for at least 6 months.

You say that you own property in the UK. Do you live in it when in the UK or do you rent it out. Rental income does count towards the financial requirement; see 'Property Rental Income' in section 5.4.3 of the document.

Your husband could apply for another visit visa, but you have said he has only recently returned to Thailand after spending 5 months in the UK. There is no actual rule, but the convention is that a visitor should not normally spend more than 6 months out of 12 in the UK. Unless there is an exceptional reason for his needing to make another long visit to the Uk so soon after his last one he will probably be refused.

Even if he were to get another visit visa the maximum time he could spend in the UK would be 6 months and he would not be able to work.

Most of us here have had to spend months separated from our loved one whilst their visa was sorted out; in my case it was close to 6 months between my leaving Thailand and my wife finally arriving to live with me in the UK. Looking back now, nearly 12 years later, the wait was not only worth it, but doesn't seem so long; though at the time it seemed like forever!

Whether one agrees with the new financial requirements or not (personally I agree with some, but not all) these are the rules and if you want your husband to live with you in the UK you and he will have to follow them.

In an ideal world there would be no need for visas and anyone would be able to live anywhere with whomever they choose; but it's not an ideal world.

Edited October 19, 2012 by 7by7

[KarenBlackwell]

Have you actually read the Immigration Directorate Instructions document I linked to earlier; which explains the financial requirement in full?

A firm job offer on your return to the UK does count, provided you have also been earning at least £18,600 p..a. outside the UK for at least the 6 months prior to your return.

Savings above £16,000 will reduce the amount of required income on a sliding scale; the more savings you have above this the less income you need until savings of £62,000 or more mean that no income is required.

These savings can be gifted to you by a family member or friend, but they must be a gift, not a loan and have been in your possession and under your complete control for at least 6 months.

You say that you own property in the UK. Do you live in it when in the UK or do you rent it out. Rental income does count towards the financial requirement; see 'Property Rental Income' in section 5.4.3 of the document.

Your husband could apply for another visit visa, but you have said he has only recently returned to Thailand after spending 5 months in the UK. There is no actual rule, but the convention is that a visitor should not normally spend more than 6 months out of 12 in the UK. Unless there is an exceptional reason for his needing to make another long visit to the Uk so soon after his last one he will probably be refused.

Even if he were to get another visit visa the maximum time he could spend in the UK would be 6 months and he would not be able to work.

Most of us here have had to spend months separated from our loved one whilst their visa was sorted out; in my case it was close to 6 months between my leaving Thailand and my wife finally arriving to live with me in the UK. Looking back now, nearly 12 years later, the wait was not only worth it, but doesn't seem so long; though at the time it seemed like forever!

Whether one agrees with the new financial requirements or not (personally I agree with some, but not all) these are the rules and if you want your husband to live with you in the UK you and he will have to follow them.

In an ideal world there would be no need for visas and anyone would be able to live anywhere with whomever they choose; but it's not an ideal world.

thanks for your reply, i have looked at the immigration documents, but i think i,ve looked that much i dont no whats, what anymore lol, just needed some replysin black and white and asic english to the simpliest questions and i will go to some agents to, need to be told also...basically i,ve messed up i thought the contract would be enough and now im gutted, i,ve left my husband numerous times over the last 4 years and was determined not to do it again (i promised him). so if nothing else works i,ll stay here until i can apply for another tourist visa and then get my 6 months wage slips....thankyou again you,ve been a great help

[KarenBlackwell]

Have you actually read the Immigration Directorate Instructions document I linked to earlier; which explains the financial requirement in full?

A firm job offer on your return to the UK does count, provided you have also been earning at least £18,600 p..a. outside the UK for at least the 6 months prior to your return.

Savings above £16,000 will reduce the amount of required income on a sliding scale; the more savings you have above this the less income you need until savings of £62,000 or more mean that no income is required.

These savings can be gifted to you by a family member or friend, but they must be a gift, not a loan and have been in your possession and under your complete control for at least 6 months.

You say that you own property in the UK. Do you live in it when in the UK or do you rent it out. Rental income does count towards the financial requirement; see 'Property Rental Income' in section 5.4.3 of the document.

Your husband could apply for another visit visa, but you have said he has only recently returned to Thailand after spending 5 months in the UK. There is no actual rule, but the convention is that a visitor should not normally spend more than 6 months out of 12 in the UK. Unless there is an exceptional reason for his needing to make another long visit to the Uk so soon after his last one he will probably be refused.

Even if he were to get another visit visa the maximum time he could spend in the UK would be 6 months and he would not be able to work.

Most of us here have had to spend months separated from our loved one whilst their visa was sorted out; in my case it was close to 6 months between my leaving Thailand and my wife finally arriving to live with me in the UK. Looking back now, nearly 12 years later, the wait was not only worth it, but doesn't seem so long; though at the time it seemed like forever!

Whether one agrees with the new financial requirements or not (personally I agree with some, but not all) these are the rules and if you want your husband to live with you in the UK you and he will have to follow them.

In an ideal world there would be no need for visas and anyone would be able to live anywhere with whomever they choose; but it's not an ideal world.

thanks for your reply, i have looked at the immigration documents, but i think i,ve looked that much i dont no whats, what anymore lol, just needed some replysin black and white and asic english to the simpliest questions and i will go to some agents to, need to be told also...basically i,ve messed up i thought the contract would be enough and now im gutted, i,ve left my husband numerous times over the last 4 years and was determined not to do it again (i promised him). so if nothing else works i,ll stay here until i can apply for another tourist visa and then get my 6 months wage slips....thankyou again you,ve been a great help

just one more question, i own to propertys and rent them out but i dont see any of that money as it covers both mortgages...does that money count

[7by7]

The IDIs just says income from property. I'm not 100% sure, but suspect that means profit you make from the properties; so no.

[Guest jonzboy]

Maybe you could sell the two properties and acquire the >£62,000 needed to avoid the salaried income requirements?

[7by7]

She could; but the cash savings would still need to have been in her possession for at least 6 months, so wouldn't solve the problem.

N.B. Equity in property cannot be used, only the income from it; provided the property is not your main residence.

[Rimmer]

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[KarenBlackwell]

She could; but the cash savings would still need to have been in her possession for at least 6 months, so wouldn't solve the problem.

N.B. Equity in property cannot be used, only the income from it; provided the property is not your main residence.

ok my income from the 2 properties is 800 a month around 500 is used to pay the mortgages,,does that mean they,ll take 800 pounds as income, or the remainder 300 pounds..

[7by7]

I think it will be the net profit before tax, i.e. £300.

But even £800 per month is only £9600 p.a. so isn't enough.

I think that if you want you and your husband to live in the UK you will have to bite the bullet and come first and work for 6 months until you have met the financial requirement.