Pheu Thai leaders acknowledge red-shirt discontent

The Nation

BANGKOK: -- Two senior Pheu Thai Party members yesterday admitted that red-shirt supporters were dissatisfied that one of their movement's leaders, Jatuporn Promphan, has been left out of the new Cabinet.

But Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung and Pheu Thai caretaker director Phutham Wechayachai said the red shirts would eventually understand the situation and the conflict would end.

Worachai Hema, a Pheu Thai MP from Samut Prakan and a red-shirt leader, has expressed dissatisfaction that Jatuporn was not given a seat in the Yingluck 3 Cabinet.

Worachai alleged that a politician with the initial 'S', who is close to Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, blocked Jatuporn from entering the Cabinet.

Chalerm said he believed that Worachai and other red-shirt leaders would be pacified and the issue would not snowball out of control.

Chalerm said it could not be helped that certain red-shirt leaders would feel bitter over the issue, but explanations would be given.

Chalerm said that when he had a chance, he would inform Yingluck about the issue.

-- The Nation 2012-10-29

"Chalerm said that when he had a chance, he would inform Yingluck about the issue."

If he's waiting to catch her in parliament, he could be waiting a while.

Worachai alleged that a politician with the initial 'S', who is close to Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, blocked Jatuporn from entering the Cabinet.

Prime Minister's Secretary-General Suranand Vejjajiva

Wouldn't it be great to see this government distancing itself from the Red Shirt movement? After all they were beautifully manipulated by Thaksin to overthrow the Dems, and as he constantly proves, everyone, including his sister, are expendable pawns in his egoistic game of powerplay. But until there is an alternative they are bed buddies.

Worachai Hema, a Pheu Thai MP from Samut Prakan and a red-shirt leader, has expressed dissatisfaction that Jatuporn was not given a seat in the Yingluck 3 Cabinet.

Meanwhile, yet another Red Shirt Leader and Pheu Thai Party MP (there's about a dozen or so of these double-monikered individuals in Parliament) Cherdchai stressed that keeping fellow Red Shirt Leader and former Pheu Thai Party MP Jatuporn out of the Yingluck Cabinet could lead to misunderstandings and drifts between the government and Red Shirts.

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I sense if the PTP take too many steps away from the faithful reds then the worm may well turn !!

All the little "piggies" want a turn at the trough !

Yes the acknowledge that the red shirts are not happy

The red shirts got the Gov''t in place

Now the Gov;t have no use or the red shirts

"use'em, abuse and lose'em"

However with media engineering concerning the stance of the P.T.P. concerning their relationship with the Red Shirts, we will no doubt soon be seeing and hearing how the Red Shirt movemen duped the poor innocents in the P.T.P.and of course the population at large

Now if the Red Shirts become somewhat more vocal and more active in other ways, demonstrations, marches rallies etc we will no doubt hear from the P.T.P. that of course the Red Shirt movement is working to overthrow the current maladministration therefore it is an undemocratic movement and moves will have to be taken to subdue this rebellious disruptive faction

Oh the spin doctors will be working at high speed to plant the seeds of doubt in the population at large, thus diverting attention away from the current scams and of course the economic damage being inflicted upon the country.

Popular support swings to the P.T.P. Thaksin has then successfully sidelines the Red Shirt movement and will then probably state that the movement is working hand in glove with ,''third parties'' whose aim it is to overtrhow his puppet administration, hence the need for any actions taken.is justified to protect the country.

An election is called,and the result whichever way it may go is a win win situation for Thaksin, i.e. his puppets lose they walk away from the mess with their pockets bulging with money and whoever assumes power has the mess to clear up.

Thaksins puppets win wonderful, they then have Carte Blanche to continue their plundering of the state coffers and the complete freedom to continue with the istallation of a new political dynasty.

Indeed the Red Shirt problem is dealt with and no allegiance is owned or honoured, indeed a masterpiece of political chicanery that, if it worked would be tantamount to the complete enslavement of Thailand and its people to the Thaksin family and their brown nosing acolyte..

Edited October 29, 201213 yr by siampolee

If the red shirts were truly a prodemocracy group they would be supporting any side that wins an election by democratic means, (which is still yet to happen in Thailand), with no strings attached, and certainly without trying to become part of any government.

Edited October 29, 201213 yr by ballpoint

If the red shirts were truly a prodemocracy group they would be supporting any side that wins an election by democratic means, with no strings attached, and certainly without trying to become part of that government.

why, what party are they supporting now?

Chalerm said it could not be helped that certain red-shirt leaders would feel bitter over the issue, but explanations would be given.

For a more accurate statement, insert the word cash in place of the word explanations.

If the red shirts were truly a prodemocracy group they would be supporting any side that wins an election by democratic means, with no strings attached, and certainly without trying to become part of that government.

why, what party are they supporting now?

They have made it very clear that, not only do they only support one side, but are actually so closely aligned to it that they expect executive seats at the trough. But no, it's not about that is it? They're a prodemocracy group only interested in starting and aiding democracy in Thailand. It must be true, the wife of one of those party members, who was appointed their leader, says it is.

If the red shirts were truly a prodemocracy group they would be supporting any side that wins an election by democratic means, with no strings attached, and certainly without trying to become part of that government.

why, what party are they supporting now?

They have made it very clear that, not only do they only support one side, but are actually so closely aligned to it that they expect executive seats at the trough. But no, it's not about that is it? They're a prodemocracy group only interested in starting and aiding democracy in Thailand. It must be true, the wife of one of those party members, who was appointed their leader, says it is.

my guess is that they will continue to support any side that wins an election by democratic means...

If the red shirts were truly a prodemocracy group they would be supporting any side that wins an election by democratic means, with no strings attached, and certainly without trying to become part of that government.

why, what party are they supporting now?

They have made it very clear that, not only do they only support one side, but are actually so closely aligned to it that they expect executive seats at the trough. But no, it's not about that is it? They're a prodemocracy group only interested in starting and aiding democracy in Thailand. It must be true, the wife of one of those party members, who was appointed their leader, says it is.

my guess is that they will continue to support any side that wins an election by democratic means...

Guffaw!!!!

my guess is that they will continue to support any side that wins an election by democratic means...

Guffaw!!!!

maybe you don't see the hidden meaning in that quote, maybe you do.

bye now.

I sense if the PTP take too many steps away from the faithful reds then the worm may well turn !!

All the little "piggies" want a turn at the trough !

Nothing going to happen as usual. The people dont care and the party few will get over it with the offering of a carrot.

Khun Jatuporn wasn't qualified for a position in any of the cabinet offices as none of the doors are wide enough to accommodate his mouth.

my guess is that they will continue to support any side that wins an election by democratic means...

If the Democrats were able to get another 20 seats and smaller parties were able to get another 20 seats, and the Democrats were able to form a coalition government, I doubt very much that the red shirts would support them.

Worachai alleged that a politician with the initial 'S', who is close to Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, blocked Jatuporn from entering the Cabinet.

Prime Minister's Secretary-General Suranand Vejjajiva

And there I was thinking it was Yingluck's Brother T.S.?

Edited October 29, 201213 yr by ggold

It is about time that Chalerm understands that he as certified crook ultimately understands that he is on borrowed time. Jatuporn has hundred times more rights than a man who belongs in jail for robbing the country blind and manipulating the justice system just as his opponents in other parties.

It is about time that Chalerm understands that he as certified crook ultimately understands that he is on borrowed time. Jatuporn has hundred times more rights than a man who belongs in jail for robbing the country blind and manipulating the justice system just as his opponents in other parties.

Red Shirts voted for him, what's more Yingluck "appointed" him to his position, so what does that tell you about those?

May be Thaksin does not think he needs then as much as before

my guess is that they will continue to support any side that wins an election by democratic means...

Guffaw!!!!

maybe you don't see the hidden meaning in that quote, maybe you do.

bye now.

bye bye

May be Thaksin does not think he needs then as much as before

Really!!!!! What makes you think that?

They don't seem to understand the basics of Thai governance. There is only so much room at the trough at any one time. Anyway, 3 cabinets in 18 months must be approaching some kind of record, even by Thai standards, but then Thaksin does have an awful lot of people to keep happy until his big plan to collapse the Baht happens, then he will be even richer than before.

If the red shirts were truly a prodemocracy group they would be supporting any side that wins an election by democratic means, with no strings attached, and certainly without trying to become part of that government.

why, what party are they supporting now?

We know who they support which is fine, it's the expectation of having a go at being in the cabinet that's the problem.

The easiest solution is to appoint a cabinet based on ability and change it when needed due to lack of performance or the member leaving the cabinet or parliament for example. It's the idea of giving lots of people a chance at being in the cabinet, a bit like kids letting their friends have a ride on their new bike that's causing the problem. Yingluck should be left to choose based on ability.

Do the Dems have this sort of problem as well?

Wouldn't it be great to see this government distancing itself from the Red Shirt movement? After all they were beautifully manipulated by Thaksin to overthrow the Dems, and as he constantly proves, everyone, including his sister, are expendable pawns in his egoistic game of powerplay. But until there is an alternative they are bed buddies.

My memory must be failing me! I don't recall the Dems being overthrown by anybody. As i recall it they called an election, and were then voted out at the ballot box.Or am i wrong?

So if Thida's pet monkey can't have a seat in cabinet, perhaps they could give it to one of the attack dogs. Oh, already done.

May be Thaksin does not think he needs then as much as before

He served his purpose, now he is no longer usefule. Big Brother does not need him!

my guess is that they will continue to support any side that wins an election by democratic means...

If the Democrats were able to get another 20 seats and smaller parties were able to get another 20 seats, and the Democrats were able to form a coalition government, I doubt very much that the red shirts would support them.

my point was that i don't see the democrats winning through election, it was tongue in cheek.