Are Western Getting All The Thai Ladies...the Good Ones?

[vspin134]

Just curious...we have seen more and more Thai ladies with more western men in decent restaurant, tapas, pub, bar, etc. last week at wine connection (k village), I happened to notice at least one expat with thai lady at one third of the entire restaurant pakcked with wine and dine goes? The questions are?

1. Are expat getting all the well educated good looking Thai ladies?

2. If these Thai ladies are serious about relationship...how well can they fit in culturally and traditionally at her expat partner's family and friends taking account that most well paid expat come from conservation family back home.

3. Are the Thai men really that bad (yes they are)

[arthurwait]

No.

[HaruHaru]

Yes. they are.

[theblether]

<deleted>!!!!

[arthurwait]

Yes. they are.

Oh no they're not.

[poanoi]

Out of all the westerners i know of,

only 2 has a thai gf with bachelor's degree or above, and a job that goes with it,

myself included.

That may work out to be around 3%.

So to answer the question: Nope,

the westerners are typically stuck with prostitutes,

that stay with the westerner in a on-job relation

[DrTuner]

How many are there, 40M ? Now ok, if 20k of them are good, yeah, us Farangs do steal them all. Happy dreams and pink fluffy clouds in them.

EDIT: Tapas ? Care to tell where ? Haven't stumbled on them here.

Edited October 29, 2012 by DrTuner

[worgeordie]

Maybe, but you have to have the following, truck load of money,small brain,and be hansom, in that order, for any Thai lady to take interest in You

just my opinion, Regards Worgeordie,

[dingerbel]

My wife and I have just celebrated our 14th wedding anniversary, she has a degree, we moved here 3 years ago from the UK. All of our friends are Thai/farang mix and none with a bar girl...(well one). They all are former air hostesses or currently still are and mainly all Bangkok families!

My point finally, is that if they know a little about the world, they will go for farang every time! It isn't about money, we are not rich, comfortable, but not rich, we both still have to work. It's about respect, Thai women do not feel respected by Thai men. Their are exceptions of course, one of my brothers in law for one, great man, good dad, good to his family, the other one who is married to a loverly women, is a <deleted> of the highest order!

If you think it's all just about money, your doing it wrong!

[Beetlejuice]

Yes. they are.

Oh no they're not.

Oh yes they are.

[Dancealot]

Yes. they are.

Oh no they're not.

Oh yes they are.

Oh oh no they aren' t. I did this for the last time when i was 10 years old and i still like it!

Edited October 29, 2012 by Dancealot

[DrTuner]

One bargaining chip every Farang has is of course the ticket out of Thailand. It's still worth something.

[poanoi]

Yes. they are.

Oh no they're not.

Oh yes they are.

Oh oh no they aren' t. I did this for the last time when i was 10 years old and i still like it!

Cheers

[barefoot1988]

My wife and I have just celebrated our 14th wedding anniversary, she has a degree, we moved here 3 years ago from the UK. All of our friends are Thai/farang mix and none with a bar girl...(well one). They all are former air hostesses or currently still are and mainly all Bangkok families!

My point finally, is that if they know a little about the world, they will go for farang every time! It isn't about money, we are not rich, comfortable, but not rich, we both still have to work. It's about respect, Thai women do not feel respected by Thai men. Their are exceptions of course, one of my brothers in law for one, great man, good dad, good to his family, the other one who is married to a loverly women, is a <deleted> of the highest order!

If you think it's all just about money, your doing it wrong!

its funny how you mention only 1 with bargirl but the immediate statement you mention the rest are air hostesses.

[poanoi]

IIRC there was a coyote/gogo bar called airport,

with quite high circulation of hostesses.

But beer & age has already taken it's toll on me, i have no clue if i remember correctly or not

Edited October 29, 2012 by poanoi

[Dancealot]

IIRC there was a coyote/gogo bar called airport,

with quite high circulation of hostesses.

But beer & age has already taken it's toll on me, i have no clue if i remember correctly or not

Does it matter?

Guess it all depends in if you are an African swallow or a European swallow.

[DP25]

Ahahahaha. That was a good one. There is a reason Thai dudes don't get upset about farang men 'stealing' their women, because most of us are taking women that they have no interest in at all. Ask some Thai people, foreigners have a reputation for liking ugly women. Foreigners also tend to get the mentally ill, prostitutes, gold diggers, drug and alcohol addicts, and the unemployable. Even women without those major problems usually have something that Thai men consider undesirable, such as being a single mother or just being unattractive. There are a large number of problem women specifically targeting foreigners, as they are seen as easy marks. Foreigner aren't limited to the left overs, but that is what is throwing themselves at them, and a lot of guys just end up with the first girl to hop in to his bed without quoting a price.

[DP25]

One bargaining chip every Farang has is of course the ticket out of Thailand. It's still worth something.

That's not worth much in Thailand. Try the Phillipines, most of them are desperate to leave.

[MAJIC]

A very provocative Post,and the answer to all 3 of your questions is no. There are many "Goods Ones" in Thailand.

Edited October 29, 2012 by MAJIC

[Misplaced]

Hate to say it, but many Thai ladies these days are shallow. Lately I have noticed that young Thai ladies gravitates towards to following to find their "right man"; 1) Handsome 2) money 3) white (pale) skin color 4) being Korean is a bonus. In that order.

But than again, the first 2 requirements are the same ALL OVER THE WORLD, NO MATTER WHERE.

Educated "well to do" Thai ladies tends to stick with the "well to do" type men regardless of race. You wouldn't expect for them to settled for average "love the bar girl type foreign man" with hardly any money would you?

Edited October 29, 2012 by Misplaced

[Dancealot]

Ahahahaha. That was a good one. There is a reason Thai dudes don't get upset about farang men 'stealing' their women, because most of us are taking women that they have no interest in at all. Ask some Thai people, foreigners have a reputation for liking ugly women. Foreigners also tend to get the mentally ill, prostitutes, gold diggers, drug and alcohol addicts, and the unemployable. Even women without those major problems usually have something that Thai men consider undesirable, such as being a single mother or just being unattractive. There are a large number of problem women specifically targeting foreigners, as they are seen as easy marks. Foreigner aren't limited to the left overs, but that is what is throwing themselves at them, and a lot of guys just end up with the first girl to hop in to his bed without quoting a price.

As a younger farang i could relate to that. I agree with you. The Thai men should be respected more. Question comes to mind.

Why should a farang believe what a thai woman says about thai men. In the end it' s all a matter of perspective.

I could also restate the question:

Why should a farang believe what a thai bargirl says about thai men?

Why are farangs letting their perspective opinions being influenced by these girls?

Think again

Edited October 29, 2012 by Dancealot

[Boo]

bwahhhh, haaaaa, haaaa cough cough, um, no.

[macksview]

Ahahahaha. That was a good one. There is a reason Thai dudes don't get upset about farang men 'stealing' their women, because most of us are taking women that they have no interest in at all. Ask some Thai people, foreigners have a reputation for liking ugly women. Foreigners also tend to get the mentally ill, prostitutes, gold diggers, drug and alcohol addicts, and the unemployable. Even women without those major problems usually have something that Thai men consider undesirable, such as being a single mother or just being unattractive. There are a large number of problem women specifically targeting foreigners, as they are seen as easy marks. Foreigner aren't limited to the left overs, but that is what is throwing themselves at them, and a lot of guys just end up with the first girl to hop in to his bed without quoting a price.

summed up pretty much my thoughts on the subject, from what i have seen, its ex prostitutes, instant families and gold diggers from the realms of the prostitution world or with family closely aligned to it.

some farangs, do get the village/suburb virgin girl, but it seems they would not fill a single A380, but are those girls the pick of thai women, probably not in some eyes, innocent, good marriage material, uni/vocational college trained, a job with some or little career value.

see some farangs with instant family, met on the internet women, honest ladies who had a bad first marriage it seems, not the pick of thai women due to that baggage but probably a good solid family type.

have seen some farang in bkk and bigger provincial centres with girls, good jobs/careers who seem to be above the usual farang market.

women from a prostitution background set up by the new farang in her bar/business, now with money and some status, a good catch for thai men, probably not, only for those wanting to be the pua noi or waiting for the farang to pass on.

hi-so girls with farangs never seen any because the wife and i are just little middle class people.

Edited October 29, 2012 by macksview

[BigJohnnyBKK]

Really, there are so many things wrong with this bagful of jokes and misconceptions one hardly knows where to start!

"more and more" ?

I would say the numbers are way down from when I first arrived, proportionally lots more Asian foreigners and wealthy Thais outnumbering and outspending the farang visitors, who IMO are also actually coming here in absolute lower numbers, and certainly have much less to spend than they used to on average.

Regarding the beatitude of our choices, ain't it grand we don't all have the same taste, it's true that some farang guys do settle for what I consider old and haggard women, but then I think maybe I'm seeing the "after" picture of a wonderfully long-term stable relationship. Or maybe that's his strategy for increasing the odds of finding a sincere and loyal mate. Or maybe his eyesight's shot I don't know.

But even girls I consider stunning spinners, the average Thai sees as blech, and the tall white-skin moon-faced girls they prefer I wouldn't touch with a barge pole. So it all works out.

But setting pulchritude aside, it's definitely the case IMO that those of us that aren't rich and/or young & handsome mostly end up with the less educated, less stable and often less virtuous of the female population.

So 1. No.

For #2 the OP assumes others give a toss how our choice of mate would "fit in culturally and traditionally" with my conservation family back home (sic). Although my old Mum's as much a tree-hugging greenie as the rest of 'em, she's been generous enough to welcome with open arms a very wide variety of my choices over the years, as long as I love 'em so does she, and like most people of my generation I know if she didn't then f%#@ off Mum, none of your business and I guess we'll be spending holidays somewhere warmer next year.

I suspect perhaps the OP comes from a more traditional culture, maybe not even a farang one (and please don't nitpick the word choices y'all know what I mean!)

Finally #3 gets another resounding "NO". First of all, don't believe the PR BS coming out of the mouth of someone trying to convince you of something that's in their interest for you to believe - or OK go ahead and rescue her you white knight in shining armor you. Second, even if she's sincere, you're not getting a representative sampling of opinion, only from people that have already decided to fish outside their own gene pool, quite possibly because it's true they've been mistreated, but you're still only getting one side of the story.

Now I'm not saying that the men here are so fine and chivalrous as we western white knights either, their cultural mores as to how they treat women certainly doesn't live up to PC standards back home.

But then neither do mine anymore, so who am I to judge?

They're just not quite as bad an undifferentiated lot of pregnancy-abandoning cousin-raping gambling drinking wife-beaters our teeraks make them out to be. At least not all of them.

I'm pretty sure.

[Dancealot]

bwahhhh, haaaaa, haaaa cough cough, um, no.

Ahahahaha. That was a good one. There is a reason Thai dudes don't get upset about farang men 'stealing' their women, because most of us are taking women that they have no interest in at all. Ask some Thai people, foreigners have a reputation for liking ugly women. Foreigners also tend to get the mentally ill, prostitutes, gold diggers, drug and alcohol addicts, and the unemployable. Even women without those major problems usually have something that Thai men consider undesirable, such as being a single mother or just being unattractive. There are a large number of problem women specifically targeting foreigners, as they are seen as easy marks. Foreigner aren't limited to the left overs, but that is what is throwing themselves at them, and a lot of guys just end up with the first girl to hop in to his bed without quoting a price.

summed up pretty much my thoughts on the subject, from what i have seen, its ex prostitutes, instant families and gold diggers from the realms of the prostitution world or with family closely aligned to it.

some farangs, do get the village/suburb virgin girl, but it seems they would not fill a single A380, but are those girls the pick of thai women, probably not in some eyes, innocent, good marriage material, uni/vocational college trained, a job with some or little career value.

see some farangs with instant family, met on the internet women, honest ladies who had a bad first marriage it seems, not the pick of thai women due to that baggage but probably a good solid family type.

have seen some farang in bkk and bigger provincial centres with girls, good jobs/careers who seem to be above the usual farang market.

women from a prostitution background set up by the new farang in her bar/business, now with money and some status, a good catch for thai men, probably not, only for those wanting to be the pua noi or waiting for the farang to pass on.

hi-so girls with farangs never seen any because the wife and i are just little middle class people.

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[Zatoichi]

I doubt it. Westerners don't usually set the bar as high for themselves here as they do in their own country when it comes to women. That and their perceptions of beauty are often different that of most Thai men. Combine the two factors and you get guys coming over here thinking the plain jiep prostitute in the bar is attractive and decent enough to wife.

A laughable phenomena but all to common. Not all but many. I've lived here for about 12 years, and I would say maybe 60% of Thai Women married to Western Men met their husbands in or around the sex trade...and I'm probably being generous with my numbers. Oh and that doesn't let the Western women off the hook either, I actually feel worse for the majority of them, many of whom I've seen with their ignorant looking, broke ass, motor bike taxi hubbies in tow.

That being said there is a growing upper echelon of Thai-Western couples who are well matched, and married at each other's level. And Thong Lo eateries and places like K Village are usually a good place too see us.

MMmmmm Can anyone say "After You"?

Edited October 29, 2012 by Zatoichi

[BigJohnnyBKK]

One bargaining chip every Farang has is of course the ticket out of Thailand. It's still worth something.

Only for those very very few who actually want to go.

And not as attractive these days for those (again very few) aware of the economic situation in farangland, here any warm (Thai) body can get hop from job to job at the drop of a hat (say that five times fast! 8), but wages there I would have sneered at twenty years ago tons of over-qualified people are grateful for!

Even a low-priced housekeeper back home would have to knock on a quite few doors to find work, where five years ago it would have been easy to get anough customers to make USD $50K doing that, at least in my mum's neighborhood. Now people would line up around the block if someone was offering $8 an hour!

Seems I'm better off here for now, and if that's true for me doubly so for my teerak. . .

Not to mention the weather, no Thais to talk to, the food, the face issue, in-laws (shudder!)

Most girls here would much prefer a locally based expat, or even better he stays over there most of the time and just sends money over!

Which of course we all know what's usually going on with that. . .

[BigJohnnyBKK]

set the bar as high

the plain jiep prostitute

decent enough to wife

ignorant looking, broke ass, motor bike taxi hubbies

upper echelon

married at each other's level

And Thong Lo eateries and places like K Village are usually a good place too see us.

I can't express how I feel about the attitudes I perceive shining through your phrasing without being unspeakably rude, so I'll just let the above lie as it falls.

Have you considered getting to know people and basing your judgement as to their "value" on this planet on something more meaningful than socio-economic status and superficial appearances? And they say TGs are shallow!

Not to mention knowing the importance of a little humility!

To me you've shown yourself to be much more "low class" than 99% of the poorest rice farmer peasants out there. . .

[Om85]

If the wenster that you are talking about are older than 40 years old, mostly are involve with prostitutes, but if they are young people like me(25-34) the most of the ones that I know are married to high middle class Thai ladies, that have recived and education abroad(US, Australia, China, Japan, Uk) and mostly they met each other there. In the other hand there is lots of good Thai men out there, but I find that Thai women get crazy about muscles and Thai men ususally don't have much, also many Thai women like white/yellow skin, high noses, green eyes, and curly hair, another important point: the size of your fellow. But Thailand is just like anyother country, there is good and bad guys, we are not better than Thai males, just different

[Payboy]

Are Western Getting All The Thai Ladies...the Good Ones?

Luckily, I'm getting mostly the bad ones, they're a whole lot more fun.