I Advise My Sister, P M Yingluck, Because She's New, Thaksin Tells Forbes

[nurofiend]

Remember Thaksin telling the BBC that he was through with politics, that enough was enough, he just wanted to retire?

Yet another lie by the fugitive from afar!

obviously he changed his mind like mark did.

Mark resigned and said he would only return if the party would vote for him (wanted him to return)..

Please tell the truth.

Mark resigned and said he would only return if the party would vote for him

he said that when he resigned? source please.

Abhisit insisted that when he announced his resignation he had no plans to return to the party leadership

source wikipedia, i'm sure you know how to use wikipedia to find the authenticity of this quote...

Edited November 1, 2012 by nurofiend

[rubl]

Mark resigned and said he would only return if the party would vote for him

he said that when he resigned? source please.

Abhisit insisted that when he announced his resignation he had no plans to return to the party leadership

source wikipedia, i'm sure you know how to use wikipedia to find the authenticity of this quote...

K. Thaksin changed his mind, a few times even. Like in 2011-05-31

"Interviewed by Radio Australia at his luxury home in Dubai, Mr. Thaksin said he has no ambition to return to political power and finds it convenient to run his international business empire from the Persian Gulf nation."

http://www.voanews.c...634/167549.html

K. Abhisit resigned as party leader ( http://tastythailand...emocrat-leader/ ) which is not really the same as quitting from politics. Wiki says he was re-elected as party leader ( http://en.wikipedia....hisit_Vejjajiva ). Your quote from wiki might be on another page, please tell us which one.

So, having looked at the evidence it seems clear that k. Thaksin changed his mind (a few times) whereas k. Abhisit was straight and consistent

[nurofiend]

Mark resigned and said he would only return if the party would vote for him

he said that when he resigned? source please.

Abhisit insisted that when he announced his resignation he had no plans to return to the party leadership

source wikipedia, i'm sure you know how to use wikipedia to find the authenticity of this quote...

K. Thaksin changed his mind, a few times even. Like in 2011-05-31

"Interviewed by Radio Australia at his luxury home in Dubai, Mr. Thaksin said he has no ambition to return to political power and finds it convenient to run his international business empire from the Persian Gulf nation."

http://www.voanews.c...634/167549.html

K. Abhisit resigned as party leader ( http://tastythailand...emocrat-leader/ ) which is not really the same as quitting from politics. Wiki says he was re-elected as party leader ( http://en.wikipedia....hisit_Vejjajiva ). Your quote from wiki might be on another page, please tell us which one.

So, having looked at the evidence it seems clear that k. Thaksin changed his mind (a few times) whereas k. Abhisit was straight and consistent

is there a point in telling you which page, will it make any difference to your opinion, if yes then i will show, if not, it's a pointless exercise for me and why would you even bother to ask?

"k. Abhisit was straight and consistent"

him insisting that when he announced his resignation he had no plans to return to the party leadership is consistent in your eyes?

i'm sure you're gone to bed now as it's 3.10am , so you can answer me in the morning.

Edited November 1, 2012 by nurofiend

[metisdead]

An off topic post has been removed.

[rubl]

is there a point in telling you which page, will it make any difference to your opinion, if yes then i will show, if not, it's a pointless exercise for me and why would you even bother to ask?

"k. Abhisit was straight and consistent"

him insisting that when he announced his resignation he had no plans to return to the party leadership is consistent in your eyes?

i'm sure you're gone to bed now as it's 3.10am , so you can answer me in the morning.

I guess your original "obviously he changed his mind like mark did." with Thaksin explicitly saying to be through with politics is the same as Abhisit saying not planning to return as party leader. In your eyes that is.

So let's complete the sentence from Wiki

"Abhisit insisted that when he announced his resignation he had no plans to return to the party leadership, but pressure and support from within the party convinced him otherwise. He has also said he wants to "expand the party" and hopes to win 88 more seats at the next election."

http://en.wikipedia....hisit_Vejjajiva

Now let's go back to Thaksin bashing instead, he's the subject of the topic after all.

[AleG]

Neurofiend and his usual "But Abhisit..." de-railment tactic when, again, Thaksin and the PTP charade is shown for what it is.

[trainman34014]

''I know the law'' Really; shame he hasn't got the guts to return and face up to it then.

[Nickymaster]

obviously he changed his mind like mark did.

Mark resigned and said he would only return if the party would vote for him (wanted him to return)..

Please tell the truth.

Mark resigned and said he would only return if the party would vote for him

he said that when he resigned? source please.

Abhisit insisted that when he announced his resignation he had no plans to return to the party leadership

source wikipedia, i'm sure you know how to use wikipedia to find the authenticity of this quote...

Nice try.

What should Abhisit have said: I resign and come back tomorrow? Ok, he said he had no plans TO RETURN TO THE PARTY LEADERSHIP (as you confirmed). The party asked him to come back.

http://english.cntv....04/109828.shtml

Thaksin said he WAS DONE WITH politics and would go play golf. Abhisit NEVER said he was DONE with politics.

2 very different situations my friend. (to be honest, you probably don't even know the difference)

Edited November 2, 2012 by Nickymaster

[looping]

Is this news?

Thaksin obsession. The guy we love to hate!

[Skywalker69]

Remember Thaksin telling the BBC that he was through with politics, that enough was enough, he just wanted to retire?

Yet another lie by the fugitive from afar!

obviously he changed his mind like mark did.

You manage to hit your "Mark" button.........again?

[nurofiend]

Neurofiend and his usual "But Abhisit..." de-railment tactic when, again, Thaksin and the PTP charade is shown for what it is.

it's making a comparison to the leader of the opposition, a natural thing to do in discussions of a political nature.

i know you would prefer a forum of constant red/ptp/Y&T bashing but sorry, when there are comparisons to be made, i'll make them.

[nurofiend]

is there a point in telling you which page, will it make any difference to your opinion, if yes then i will show, if not, it's a pointless exercise for me and why would you even bother to ask?

"k. Abhisit was straight and consistent"

him insisting that when he announced his resignation he had no plans to return to the party leadership is consistent in your eyes?

i'm sure you're gone to bed now as it's 3.10am , so you can answer me in the morning.

I guess your original "obviously he changed his mind like mark did." with Thaksin explicitly saying to be through with politics is the same as Abhisit saying not planning to return as party leader. In your eyes that is.

So let's complete the sentence from Wiki

"Abhisit insisted that when he announced his resignation he had no plans to return to the party leadership, but pressure and support from within the party convinced him otherwise. He has also said he wants to "expand the party" and hopes to win 88 more seats at the next election."

http://en.wikipedia....hisit_Vejjajiva

Now let's go back to Thaksin bashing instead, he's the subject of the topic after all.

so you avoid the simple question of whether you think him insisting that when he announced his resignation he had no plans to return to the party leadership is consistent in your eyes?

let's just leave it at "oh but he didn't do it in the same way as thaksin" then.

[nurofiend]

@nickymaster

why do you have to throw in the slur at the end? it's just childish and from now on i'm just going to report them instead of getting into spats with you.

i just get holidays for my troubles.

btw ye're all clearly just defending based on wordplay, he said if he got less than a certain number of seats he would review his performance, then he announced his resignation, then he proclaimed that when announcing his resignation he had no plans to come back.

you can translate that however which way you want but the fact remains he did a flip flop on his stated intentions.

[endure]

Can we please keep personal remarks out of this thread. There - that's asking nicely.

[JetsetBkk]

Is this news?

Thaksin obsession. The guy we love to hate!

The guy some love to hate. Others like to sit back and watch floor show.

[Ricardo]

'I advise my sister, PM Yingluck, because she's clueless she's new, Thaksin doesn't actually quite tell Forbes'

[Colabamumbai]

I am going to tell his sister that it is time she saw that visas and re-entry permits were made smaller.

[OzMick]

I am going to tell his sister that it is time she saw that visas and re-entry permits were made smaller.

While you're at it, explain that "Use Before" would be better expressed as "Expires On"

[Buchholz]

Here is the article in full LMAO.

Five pages of Q's and A's to leave you in no doubt about the turmoil going on inside this mans head!

http://www.forbes.co...wn-with-forbes/

Q. It sounds like you’d never be satisfied until you right this wrong?

A: No. I will be waiting. Even on my dying bed.

hahaha...

keep waiting then...

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[jackr]

Because I am sitting here doing nothing

Well get off your ass and send some money to the poor then!

As an aside, I'm glad Yingluck has such nice, long locks or it'd be tough to tell them apart.

[JetsetBkk]

Because I am sitting here doing nothing

Well get off your ass and send some money to the poor then!

As an aside, I'm glad Yingluck has such nice, long locks or it'd be tough to tell them apart.

You really need to go to an optician.

[mrtoad]

Because I am sitting here doing nothing

Well get off your ass and send some money to the poor then!

As an aside, I'm glad Yingluck has such nice, long locks or it'd be tough to tell them apart.

You would though, wouldn't you?

[rubl]

is there a point in telling you which page, will it make any difference to your opinion, if yes then i will show, if not, it's a pointless exercise for me and why would you even bother to ask?

"k. Abhisit was straight and consistent"

him insisting that when he announced his resignation he had no plans to return to the party leadership is consistent in your eyes?

i'm sure you're gone to bed now as it's 3.10am , so you can answer me in the morning.

I guess your original "obviously he changed his mind like mark did." with Thaksin explicitly saying to be through with politics is the same as Abhisit saying not planning to return as party leader. In your eyes that is.

So let's complete the sentence from Wiki

"Abhisit insisted that when he announced his resignation he had no plans to return to the party leadership, but pressure and support from within the party convinced him otherwise. He has also said he wants to "expand the party" and hopes to win 88 more seats at the next election."

http://en.wikipedia....hisit_Vejjajiva

Now let's go back to Thaksin bashing instead, he's the subject of the topic after all.

so you avoid the simple question of whether you think him insisting that when he announced his resignation he had no plans to return to the party leadership is consistent in your eyes?

let's just leave it at "oh but he didn't do it in the same way as thaksin" then.

I'd love to answer your simple question, but I'm afraid we'd end up in a discussion of the English language. That wouldn't be fair if only because as non-native English speaking Dutch uncle I'd have an inherent advantage.

So although I might have planned to answer, I feel inhibited by forum rules.

[Buchholz]

is there a point in telling you which page, will it make any difference to your opinion, if yes then i will show, if not, it's a pointless exercise for me and why would you even bother to ask?

"k. Abhisit was straight and consistent"

him insisting that when he announced his resignation he had no plans to return to the party leadership is consistent in your eyes?

i'm sure you're gone to bed now as it's 3.10am , so you can answer me in the morning.

I guess your original "obviously he changed his mind like mark did." with Thaksin explicitly saying to be through with politics is the same as Abhisit saying not planning to return as party leader. In your eyes that is.

So let's complete the sentence from Wiki

"Abhisit insisted that when he announced his resignation he had no plans to return to the party leadership, but pressure and support from within the party convinced him otherwise. He has also said he wants to "expand the party" and hopes to win 88 more seats at the next election."

http://en.wikipedia....hisit_Vejjajiva

Now let's go back to Thaksin bashing instead, he's the subject of the topic after all.

so you avoid the simple question of whether you think him insisting that when he announced his resignation he had no plans to return to the party leadership is consistent in your eyes?

let's just leave it at "oh but he didn't do it in the same way as thaksin" then.

I'd love to answer your simple question, but I'm afraid we'd end up in a discussion of the English language. That wouldn't be fair if only because as non-native English speaking Dutch uncle I'd have an inherent advantage.

So although I might have planned to answer, I feel inhibited by forum rules.

You don' have to be fluent in English to understand the sheer volume of this ridiculous comparison. How many times has Thaksin announced quitting politics?

Dozens upon dozens.

.

[HiSoLowSoNoSo]

Thaksin confirmed previous reports that, through his Global PS business, he has invested "so far…about US$30 million" in African mining concessions.

Blood diamonds, my first thought of his investment.

[Buchholz]

Thaksin confirmed previous reports that, through his Global PS business, he has invested "so far…about US$30 million" in African mining concessions.

Blood diamonds, my first thought of his investment.

His company's main focus is mining dirty coal to export to fuel the smokestack furnaces of the over-polluted Chinese.

.

Edited November 3, 2012 by Buchholz

[nurofiend]

so you avoid the simple question of whether you think him insisting that when he announced his resignation he had no plans to return to the party leadership is consistent in your eyes?

let's just leave it at "oh but he didn't do it in the same way as thaksin" then.

I'd love to answer your simple question, but I'm afraid we'd end up in a discussion of the English language. That wouldn't be fair if only because as non-native English speaking Dutch uncle I'd have an inherent advantage.

So although I might have planned to answer, I feel inhibited by forum rules.

You don' have to be fluent in English to understand the sheer volume of this ridiculous comparison. How many times has Thaksin announced quitting politics?

Dozens upon dozens.

.

at least i can say they both completely u-turned on what there intentions were.

this is where the bias comes you see.

it was quite a straightforward question rubl, if you wish to avoid it then that's fine by me.

[whybother]

at least i can say they both completely u-turned on what there intentions were.

this is where the bias comes you see.

it was quite a straightforward question rubl, if you wish to avoid it then that's fine by me.

So you can't tell the difference between a definitive statement said multiple times ("I AM quitting politics") and a statement of intention said after the fact ("When I resigned I had no intention of becoming leader again")?

[FOODLOVER]

Thaksin confirmed previous reports that, through his Global PS business, he has invested "so far…about US$30 million" in African mining concessions.

Blood diamonds, my first thought of his investment.

That was their lady minister who was on the US blacklist. Nice guess though.

[whybother]

“The best solution for the current political crisis is to amend the constitution to pave the way for political reform.”

“The only way out of the current crisis is to amend the Constitution.”

Abhisit Vejajiva

Do you have an original link to those quotes. I'd like to see the context.

Edit: Ahh ... I see the first quote was said in February 2006.

Edited November 4, 2012 by whybother