Yingluck Praises Red Shirts For Protecting Democracy

[TomTao]

Yingluck praises reds for 'protecting democracy'

Is that same style of democracy the followers of Leninism and Stalinism protected?

[Thai at Heart]

Yingluck praises reds for 'protecting democracy'

Is that same style of democracy the followers of Leninism and Stalinism protected?

No, it is uniquely Thai democracy, where everyone lobs money out BEFORE the election, and people look upon a coup as an integral and "friendly" part of the democratic process.

[theslime]

Yingluck praises reds for 'protecting democracy'

Is that same style of democracy the followers of Leninism and Stalinism protected?

If you want to go back 90+ years. US style democracy in the Slave states. not.

[MikeOboe57]

[...] this annual forum is meant to promote cooperation and exchange views and experiences on politics and democracy among countries in the Asia-Pacific region.

The forum was attended by [...]Iran President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

I wonder what he was doing at a forum for democracy. But I'm sure he had a good laugh during Yingluck's presentation of platitudes.

[Nickymaster]

In the beginning Yingluck tried to act as if she was "neutral". Now she (just like thaksin) needs the Reds for her own survival.

The Reds are rising so why would you not tie yourself to them.

Join the majority and forget the minority.

[bigbamboo]

Who writes this rubbish for her? It should have been entitled Yingluck pats the mad dogs.

The best way to preserve democracy would be to empower the people to value and participate in the process of democracy, which has made it possible for an election to take place.

"When people participate, they feel that they own democracy and can cherish the values. And when this democracy is overthrown or abused, people will rise up to defend it. This is what happened in Thailand in 2010," she said in a prepared speech at the forum.

Anti dictatorship and pro denocracy is what happened in 2006 and 2007 but what happen in 2009 and 2010 was violent, bloody rioting

'Who writes this rubbish for her?'

I suppose it could have been that well known political analyst, Mr Oak.

But then who would have written it for him?

[Nickymaster]

[...] this annual forum is meant to promote cooperation and exchange views and experiences on politics and democracy among countries in the Asia-Pacific region.

The forum was attended by [...]Iran President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

I wonder what he was doing at a forum for democracy. But I'm sure he had a good laugh during Yingluck's presentation of platitudes.

If you invite Yingluck you have to invite Mahmoud.

[Halion]

Poor Red Shirts, mere pawns in a game. Mostly impoverished under privileged and sparsely educated who are routinely manipulated by their mentors to assure that the elitists can maintain their position and status.

The Government are by manipulation, parasitic to their own people who they use and will disgard like a soiled kleenex. It is no accident that the minimum wage has still to be implemented in the major demographics of the Red Shirt domain. That should tell them something.

When will the Red Shirts realize that Mr T and family simply condider them as a tool in his tool box and they will be left to rust when their job in done.

Mr T has clearly and indisputedly demonstrated that he is corrupt, a liar, morally bankrupt and a coward who hides behind the his wealth and the skirts of his minions.He constantly talks a far better game than he plays . He is no role model for anything that walks on two legs.

He and his family will continue to bring nothing but grief to this nation and they should take their ill gotten gains and sail off into the sunset, perferably into the path of a huricane.

[Nickymaster]

Who writes this rubbish for her? It should have been entitled Yingluck pats the mad dogs.

The best way to preserve democracy would be to empower the people to value and participate in the process of democracy, which has made it possible for an election to take place.

"When people participate, they feel that they own democracy and can cherish the values. And when this democracy is overthrown or abused, people will rise up to defend it. This is what happened in Thailand in 2010," she said in a prepared speech at the forum.

Anti dictatorship and pro denocracy is what happened in 2006 and 2007 but what happen in 2009 and 2010 was violent, bloody rioting

'Who writes this rubbish for her?'

I suppose it could have been that well known political analyst, Mr Oak.

But then who would have written it for him?

'Who writes this rubbish for her?'

Funny, I was also thinking of little Oak.

Edited November 9, 2012 by Nickymaster

[OzMick]

[...] this annual forum is meant to promote cooperation and exchange views and experiences on politics and democracy among countries in the Asia-Pacific region.

The forum was attended by [...]Iran President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

I wonder what he was doing at a forum for democracy. But I'm sure he had a good laugh during Yingluck's presentation of platitudes.

I'm sure both have a lot to learn about the subject, and share a concern of what having it take root in their country could mean for them.

[Nickymaster]

Poor Red Shirts, mere pawns in a game. Mostly impoverished under privileged and sparsely educated who are routinely manipulated by their mentors to assure that the elitists can maintain their position and status.

The Government are by manipulation, parasitic to their own people who they use and will disgard like a soiled kleenex. It is no accident that the minimum wage has still to be implemented in the major demographics of the Red Shirt domain. That should tell them something.

When will the Red Shirts realize that Mr T and family simply condider them as a tool in his tool box and they will be left to rust when their job in done.

Mr T has clearly and indisputedly demonstrated that he is corrupt, a liar, morally bankrupt and a coward who hides behind the his wealth and the skirts of his minions.He constantly talks a far better game than he plays . He is no role model for anything that walks on two legs.

He and his family will continue to bring nothing but grief to this nation and they should take their ill gotten gains and sail off into the sunset, perferably into the path of a huricane.

You know what keeps the Thaksin clan alive? POPPULISM and a propaganda machine.

When Thailand is bankrupt things will change.

[khunken]

Yes, it is nothing but political BS. But given that some of the red leaders are unhappy about fat-jat not getting a cabinet seat, she has to say some nice things to try & keep them happy.

She wouldn't be the first PM to spout BS that she didn't even believe.

[klubex99]

Protecting democracy?

My FIL and I suspect many other people can testify to this. Was paid Bt300 for every PT vote from his household.

This is the standard of democracy here.

You couldn't make it up.

[Nickymaster]

Protecting democracy?

My FIL and I suspect many other people can testify to this. Was paid Bt300 for every PT vote from his household.

This is the standard of democracy here.

You couldn't make it up.

Ssssst, don;t mention vote buying..

Edited November 9, 2012 by Nickymaster

[Thai at Heart]

Poor Red Shirts, mere pawns in a game. Mostly impoverished under privileged and sparsely educated who are routinely manipulated by their mentors to assure that the elitists can maintain their position and status.

The Government are by manipulation, parasitic to their own people who they use and will disgard like a soiled kleenex. It is no accident that the minimum wage has still to be implemented in the major demographics of the Red Shirt domain. That should tell them something.

When will the Red Shirts realize that Mr T and family simply condider them as a tool in his tool box and they will be left to rust when their job in done.

Mr T has clearly and indisputedly demonstrated that he is corrupt, a liar, morally bankrupt and a coward who hides behind the his wealth and the skirts of his minions.He constantly talks a far better game than he plays . He is no role model for anything that walks on two legs.

He and his family will continue to bring nothing but grief to this nation and they should take their ill gotten gains and sail off into the sunset, perferably into the path of a huricane.

The world is littered with politicians who were bent, billionaires, champions of the poor, all of whom enriched themselves during their stay. Just look at the numbers reported about the departing Chinese guys. There are quite a few around at the moment in various parts of the world.. Thailand actually did quite well to get him at all, plenty of places have to put up with their corrupt hangers on for decades and decades.

However, it wasn't so much that they got rid of him for some overwhelmingly altruisitic reason, he was basically sticking his finger in their pie and cutting off their wedge.

[spectrumisgreen]

The red protests were to overthrow a government that included coalition members that were coerced by Anupong, the army commander. In no way was it a democratic alliance, formed through the usual workings of parliament as is suggested by some on this forum. The red shirt movement was overwhelmingly a peaceful protest calling for rightful elections. Some extreme fringes of the group wanted to take things further & push for a civil war, to finally end the elites' influence on democracy and to stop the chance of people like Boonlert trying to steal their electoral mandate in the future.

Taking to the streets in thousands, most of whom were coerced and shipped to said streets, by the 'New Elite' and to do so as 'backing' for their own power/wealth trips, and then to DEMAND a change in government (including actually refusing to wait a few months for the put-forward election date!), regardless of any actual democratic process which had and was already taking place, is 'protecting' democracy - come on, REAL democracy!! - how?...

[Soi Sauce]

Again, "democracy is not my aim" said Mr Big.

Pls stick to the script, little sister.

[Chads]

My one word reply: Whatever.

[hellodolly]

You Boar,s. All thailands woe,s are down to the Red,s. Why in hell do you think they were formed in the first place.

To serve there self serving master with no regard for the rights of the people.

Sorry you had to read about it after they started to rewrite history. Just ask any one who was here.

OOP'S you just did now you have your answer.

[MikeOboe57]

[...] this annual forum is meant to promote cooperation and exchange views and experiences on politics and democracy among countries in the Asia-Pacific region.

The forum was attended by [...]Iran President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

I wonder what he was doing at a forum for democracy. But I'm sure he had a good laugh during Yingluck's presentation of platitudes.

If you invite Yingluck you have to invite Mahmoud.

The Beauty and the Beast?

[hellodolly]

In the beginning Yingluck tried to act as if she was "neutral". Now she (just like thaksin) needs the Reds for her own survival.

The Reds are rising so why would you not tie yourself to them.

Integrity

Self Worth

Honesty

[hellodolly]

The red protests were to overthrow a government that included coalition members that were coerced by Anupong, the army commander. In no way was it a democratic alliance, formed through the usual workings of parliament as is suggested by some on this forum. The red shirt movement was overwhelmingly a peaceful protest calling for rightful elections. Some extreme fringes of the group wanted to take things further & push for a civil war, to finally end the elites' influence on democracy and to stop the chance of people like Boonlert trying to steal their electoral mandate in the future.

Taking to the streets in thousands, most of whom were coerced and shipped to said streets, by the 'New Elite' and to do so as 'backing' for their own power/wealth trips, and then to DEMAND a change in government (including actually refusing to wait a few months for the put-forward election date!), regardless of any actual democratic process which had and was already taking place, is 'protecting' democracy - come on, REAL democracy!! - how?...

Leaving all the wrongs aside that the reds did the agreeing to a truce only to change their minds the next day and having a new agreement met that would bring them an early election which is they wanted speaks loud and clear to the honor and honesty they had. But just to make sure the whole world knew how slimy they were they invaded a hospital.

[rubl]

Good point Waza - One of the actions Yingluck could take to promote participation in Democracy is to abolish the law which states (and i'm paraphrasing) that MPs must have a university degree. That law automatically excludes millions (especially the rural poor) from the right to stand for election. All voices are equal right? History shows that some of the best politicians have been those with extensive life experience as opposed to academic qualifications. And given the fact most degrees can effectively be bought in Thailand it becomes a moot point as to whether degree actually improve ones intellect and knowledge. That law only separates the poor and under privileged from the right to let their peers decide if they are worthy and elect them to parliament (or not).

So MPS continue to come from selected backgrounds.

I believe from previous threads that the requirement for a degree was removed from the present constitution by the "evil military junta."

No I think you will find that they are discussing it now as the poster above opined

The requirements for candidates in elections as described in the 2007 Constitution are defined in article 101 qualifications, 102 disqualifications for MPs and article 115 qualifications, 115/116 disqualifications for Senators.

2007 Constitution Thailand (2550).pdf

[SICHONSTEVE]

The red protests were to overthrow a government that included coalition members that were coerced by Anupong, the army commander. In no way was it a democratic alliance, formed through the usual workings of parliament as is suggested by some on this forum. The red shirt movement was overwhelmingly a peaceful protest calling for rightful elections. Some extreme fringes of the group wanted to take things further & push for a civil war, to finally end the elites' influence on democracy and to stop the chance of people like Boonlert trying to steal their electoral mandate in the future.

Yes!! The red shirts are 'a bunch of misunderstood angels' that would never raise a finger in anger and only light fires to keep warm (they really feel the cold when it gets below 30 celcius) - admittedly, setting fire to other peoples buildings was a bit selfish, maybe they should have put another jumper on instead!!!

[waza]

The red protests were to overthrow a government that included coalition members that were coerced by Anupong, the army commander. In no way was it a democratic alliance, formed through the usual workings of parliament as is suggested by some on this forum. The red shirt movement was overwhelmingly a peaceful protest calling for rightful elections. Some extreme fringes of the group wanted to take things further & push for a civil war, to finally end the elites' influence on democracy and to stop the chance of people like Boonlert trying to steal their electoral mandate in the future.

Yes!! The red shirts are 'a bunch of misunderstood angels' that would never raise a finger in anger and only light fires to keep warm (they really feel the cold when it gets below 30 celcius) - admittedly, setting fire to other peoples buildings was a bit selfish, maybe they should have put another jumper on instead!!!

[Buchholz]

Good point Waza - One of the actions Yingluck could take to promote participation in Democracy is to abolish the law which states (and i'm paraphrasing) that MPs must have a university degree. That law automatically excludes millions (especially the rural poor) from the right to stand for election. All voices are equal right? History shows that some of the best politicians have been those with extensive life experience as opposed to academic qualifications. And given the fact most degrees can effectively be bought in Thailand it becomes a moot point as to whether degree actually improve ones intellect and knowledge. That law only separates the poor and under privileged from the right to let their peers decide if they are worthy and elect them to parliament (or not).

So MPS continue to come from selected backgrounds.

I believe from previous threads that the requirement for a degree was removed from the present constitution by the "evil military junta."

No I think you will find that they are discussing it now as the poster above opined

OzMick is correct. The requirement for MP's to have a Bachelor's Degree was written into the "People's" constitution of 1997. (Section 107).

The requirement was removed in the "evil military junta" constitution of 2007.

.

[metisdead]

A general flame post has been removed as well as the replies. Another inflammatory baiting post has been removed.

[h90]

Yingluck would be another one presumably who would have trouble acknowledging the existence of the Arisman video urging red supporters to burn down Bangkok.

Doesn't quite fit in with the reds for democracy story she is now peddling.

Fits well with German Democratic Republic, or Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

Democracy the red way....

[Nickymaster]

In the beginning Yingluck tried to act as if she was "neutral". Now she (just like thaksin) needs the Reds for her own survival.

The Reds are rising so why would you not tie yourself to them.

Integrity

Self Worth

Honesty

That comes with money...uh...I believe. At least in thai politics it does.

[EarthAlien]

Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra praised the red shirts for their struggle in 2010 to protect democracy

If this isn't grounds for impeachment I don't know what is.

Since when did a bloody and deathly riot, holding the capitol to ransom and burning the city become a democratic act?

Shame on the other members of the international forum for allowing her to get away with this utter diatribe of lies and deceipt.

Her brother orchestrated the entire event and then paid the red purists and sympathizers for their votes in order to obtain proxy power and install his idiot sister at the helm.

This is actually quite sickening to have to read about. Oh how I long for the Shinawatra dynasty to self destruct!