The New Challenge: How To Differentiate Bogus Red Shirt Activists From Genuine Ones?

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Red Shirt 'activist alert': Don’t prejudge a man in red as a red shirt activist

By Digital Media

BANGKOK, Nov 20 – Pro-government Red Shirt activists have vowed to stay away from the anti-government rally by the conservative Pitak Siam group at the Royal Plaza on Saturday.

The announcement has apparently pacified order-keeping authorities but their relief was not for long.

The new challenge: How to differentiate bogus Red Shirters from genuine ones?

National Security Council (NSC) secretary general Paradorn Pattanathabutr today quoted an intelligence report saying that more than 4,000 red coloured shirts have been circulated in the market and that the authorities suspect some ‘third party’ instigators will disguise themselves as Red Shirt activists and mingle with non-Red Shirt demonstrators at the Royal Plaza on Saturday.

“We have yet to determine if the move is politically motivated. We cannot arrest them as it is not illegal to buy and sell red shirts,” he said.

Lt-Gen Paradorn would not conceal his jittery feeling on the possible infiltration by a “third party” in the mass rally, saying stringent security measures have been mapped out at the rally location while Pitak Siam leaders have been told to be on vigilant for the demonstrators’ safety.

Red Shirt activists will hold separate rallies to counter the anti-government activity but they will not get near the demonstration site at the Royal Plaza, the NSC secretary general said.

Deputy Interior Minister Pracha Prasopdee said provincial demonstrators will not be barred from joining the rally in the capital but provincial governors have been instructed to discourage people in their provinces from travelling to Bangkok for the political activity.

He claimed that there have been offers at Bt1,000-2,000 each to rural people to join the mass rally on Saturday. (MCOT online news)

-- TNA 2012-11-20

[waza]

He claimed that there have been offers at Bt1,000-2,000 each to rural people to join the mass rally on Saturday.

Hmmm I wonder if this is enough money to encourage many redshirts to abandon their leaders and join the protest.

[theslime]

Santa better watch out.

[dcutman]

He claimed that there have been offers at Bt1,000-2,000 each to rural people to join the mass rally on Saturday.

Hmmm I wonder if this is enough money to encourage many redshirts to abandon their leaders and join the protest.

Thats 4 times more than they got to vote the current lot in. I would believe B2000 will turn red into just about any other color.

[animatic]

Deputy Interior Minister Pracha Prasopdee said provincial demonstrators will not be barred from joining the rally in the capital but provincial governors have been instructed to discourage people in their provinces from travelling to Bangkok for the political activity.

That is rather open to interpretation. How much discouragement is considered appropriate,

and how much disfavor is attached from Bangkok to NOT being discouraging enough.

I have to say this rally does seem to have the powers that be spooked.

[MunterHunter]

He claimed that there have been offers at Bt1,000-2,000 each to rural people to join the mass rally on Saturday.

Hmmm I wonder if this is enough money to encourage many redshirts to abandon their leaders and join the protest.

The going rate for a Redshirt these days is a simple "Fulfilled Promise" i am told

[coma]

Well that is easy enough. Just categories the ones that look and act like sheep and that will be lining up to collect thier "food stamps" , compliments of thier beloved shepherd Thasin as the real deal.

Edited November 20, 2012 by coma

[ramrod711]

The new challenge: How to differentiate bogus Red Shirters from genuine ones?

If they're carrying a gas can and a grenade launcher, they may be a red shirt.

If they have a tattoo featuring Jatuporn or Thaksin, they may be a red shirt.

if they ask if they have to wait for the 500 baht, they may be a red shirt

if they state that the legal demonstration by Pitak Siam is undemocratic, they're definitely a red shirt.

[Buchholz]

National Security Council (NSC) secretary general Paradorn Pattanathabutr today quoted an intelligence report saying that more than 4,000 red coloured shirts have been circulated in the market and that the authorities suspect some ‘third party’ instigators will disguise themselves as Red Shirt activists and mingle with non-Red Shirt demonstrators at the Royal Plaza on Saturday.

Rather unsurprising that Thaksin's "brother" Paradorn would be putting forth the latest fake reds claim like just his "kinfolk" did before him.

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[pedro01]

It is clear to me that this will be fixed if the real read shirts get themselves an 'away' strip.

Now - in terms of fake reds, I'd like to apply. Let me see, all I have to do is put on a red shirt and go stand in the middle of a crowd of people with opposing views and 'make trouble'.

Is this a straight salaried position or does it cover hospital fees too?

[Pimay1]

The new challenge: How to differentiate bogus Red Shirters from genuine ones?

If they're carrying a gas can and a grenade launcher, they may be a red shirt.

If they have a tattoo featuring Jatuporn or Thaksin, they may be a red shirt.

if they ask if they have to wait for the 500 baht, they may be a red shirt

if they state that the legal demonstration by Pitak Siam is undemocratic, they're definitely a red shirt.

Plus if they are wearing a black shirt and carrying an M16 or an AK47 then they are definitely a red shirt.

[mrtoad]

Deputy Interior Minister Pracha Prasopdee said provincial demonstrators will not be barred from joining the rally in the capital but provincial governors have been instructed to discourage people in their provinces from travelling to Bangkok for the political activity.

That is rather open to interpretation. How much discouragement is considered appropriate,

and how much disfavor is attached from Bangkok to NOT being discouraging enough.

I have to say this rally does seem to have the powers that be spooked.

Seems like PTP are pretty concerned about this, how dare some other party protest; it's not democracy

[mrtoad]

Of course then there are the bogus upholders of democracy as well.......

[asiawatcher]

Trying to second guess the outcome of all this, you can bet PTP are very nervous. They would not want to stain their outraged charade of wanting 'justice' for 2010 now would they? Any violence will simply result in more finger pointing, more 'officials' calling on more wasted 'investigations' and of course, more defense to the PTP and it's puppet master offering payments to future martyrs (which they never get to collect). Just let it happen and let's all see. Can someone bring the popcorn?

[greg71]

Can we please have a NO shirt movement as im sure this will be more appealing to the masses ??

[Buchholz]

Can we please have a NO shirt movement as im sure this will be more appealing to the masses ??

Red Shirt Leader Sombat already tried a No Shirt....(and No Pants) faction movement with some scary results

Edited November 20, 2012 by Buchholz

[bendejo]

How about an instant IQ test?

What color is the King's white horse?

[Noistar]

Isn't a bogus red-shirt the one who causes trouble, while the genuine red-shirts are peaceful, law-abiding citizens?

Simples

[Rich teacher]

Well, if they went as far as burning Central World down in order to incriminate the reds, buying & distributing a few red shirts is nothing.

[McMagus]

You guys are giving me the shirts !! Virtually all thinking and knowledgeable commentators around the globe talk about the childish state of Thai politics being polarised into yellow / red colours. Move on guys...it is their country let them do what they like with it.

[Moruya]

My oh my! The PTP propagandists are out in force.

"Intelligence" that indicates 4,000 red shirts were produced and sent to markets. Do they really expect 4,000 goons to turn up in matching kit and nobody's going to notice?

[Moruya]

Well, if they went as far as burning Central World down in order to incriminate the reds, buying & distributing a few red shirts is nothing.

His is cloud cuckoo land today?

[philw]

Well that is easy enough. Just categories the ones that look and act like sheep and that will be lining up to collect thier "food stamps" , compliments of thier beloved shepherd Thasin as the real deal.

Well that is easy enough. Just categories the ones that look and act like sheep and that will be lining up to collect thier "food stamps" , compliments of thier beloved shepherd Thasin as the real deal.

Not surprising that pimay "likes " this rather ugly comment.

Sad for TV but par for the course.

[culicine]

Yep fake red shirts will mingle with yellow shirts and 'cause trouble' ...you want a piece of me springs to mind

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGPMOoe8iQo

[coma]

Well that is easy enough. Just categories the ones that look and act like sheep and that will be lining up to collect thier "food stamps" , compliments of thier beloved shepherd Thasin as the real deal.

Well that is easy enough. Just categories the ones that look and act like sheep and that will be lining up to collect thier "food stamps" , compliments of thier beloved shepherd Thasin as the real deal.

Not surprising that pimay "likes " this rather ugly comment.

Sad for TV but par for the course.

What is ugly about it ? You must like it as you have quoted it twice.

[philw]

Well, if they went as far as burning Central World down in order to incriminate the reds, buying & distributing a few red shirts is nothing.

His is cloud cuckoo land today?

Perhaps he has a point !!

Notwithstanding thousands of troops protecting the place, probably thousands of witnesses, certainly hundreds of cameras etc etc etc and presumably the desire of the owners, police, government etc to catch the culprits, we have no convictions or even substantial accusations, two years later................

What is wrong with the picture ?

[coma]

Well, if they went as far as burning Central World down in order to incriminate the reds, buying & distributing a few red shirts is nothing.

Until said 'few red shirts' are torn up and used as wicks for Molotov cocktails.

[Moruya]

Well that is easy enough. Just categories the ones that look and act like sheep and that will be lining up to collect thier "food stamps" , compliments of thier beloved shepherd Thasin as the real deal.

Well that is easy enough. Just categories the ones that look and act like sheep and that will be lining up to collect thier "food stamps" , compliments of thier beloved shepherd Thasin as the real deal.

Not surprising that pimay "likes " this rather ugly comment.

Sad for TV but par for the course.

There's the consequential risk of Thaksin eventually being unable to afford to subsidise his pawns. The minimum wage and high inflation will see to that.

[Moruya]

Well, if they went as far as burning Central World down in order to incriminate the reds, buying & distributing a few red shirts is nothing.

His is cloud cuckoo land today?

Perhaps he has a point !!

Notwithstanding thousands of troops protecting the place, probably thousands of witnesses, certainly hundreds of cameras etc etc etc and presumably the desire of the owners, police, government etc to catch the culprits, we have no convictions or even substantial accusations, two years later................

What is wrong with the picture ?

2500+ dead and not one in prison.

[coma]

Well that is easy enough. Just categories the ones that look and act like sheep and that will be lining up to collect thier "food stamps" , compliments of thier beloved shepherd Thasin as the real deal.

Well that is easy enough. Just categories the ones that look and act like sheep and that will be lining up to collect thier "food stamps" , compliments of thier beloved shepherd Thasin as the real deal.

Not surprising that pimay "likes " this rather ugly comment.

Sad for TV but par for the course.

There's the consequential risk of Thaksin eventually being unable to afford to subsidise his pawns. The minimum wage and high inflation will see to that.

I hope the corrupt fugitive goes broke trying.