Thai Red Shirt M P Jailed After Bail Revoked

[Lite Beer]

Thai 'Red Shirt' MP jailed after bail revoked

BANGKOK, Nov 30, 2012 (AFP) - A lawmaker who was among the key leaders of Thailand's "Red Shirt" street protests in 2010 was jailed Friday after a court revoked his bail on terrorism charges linked to the demonstrations.

The Criminal Court said ruling-party MP Korkaew Pikulthong had broken his bail terms in July by inciting "unrest and chaos" when he threatened judges not to rule against the government on a key constitutional amendment.

Korkaew -- one of several Red Shirts who won a seat in last year's elections that swept ousted former premier Thaksin Shinawatra's political allies to power -- was taken to Bangkok Remand Prison after the hearing.

He is among 24 Red Shirt leaders due to go on trial next month for their roles in the 2010 rallies, which at their height drew around 100,000 people, mostly Thaksin supporters.

The accused, who include five current lawmakers, in theory could face the death penalty.

The trial is expected to be long as hearings can only be held when parliament is not in session since sitting lawmakers have immunity.

More than 90 people, mostly civilians, were killed and nearly 1,900 were wounded in a series of street clashes during the 2010 protests as well as an ensuing military crackdown.

-- (c) Copyright AFP 2012-11-30

[pedro01]

So - I guess he'll be out on Bail Monday, pending appeals of his bail revocation...

[Pimay1]

So - I guess he'll be out on Bail Monday, pending appeals of his bail revocation...

I would think so with the Yingluck government putting up the bail money from the tax payers of course.

[BrianCR]

So - I guess he'll be out on Bail Monday, pending appeals of his bail revocation...

I would think so with the Yingluck government putting up the bail money from the tax payers of course.

Why shouldn't they he's not convicted yet? Even under a legal system that is a mockery to the rest of the civilized world.

[Thai at Heart]

Well it's a start i guess. Break your bail, back to jail.

[bigbamboo]

So that's bailed not jailed........... as in Bingle Jen.

Edited November 30, 2012 by bigbamboo

[Thai at Heart]

I love how they title an MP as law maker.

Has a certain wild west or chuck norris movie feeling to it. MP obviously isn't dramatic enough.

[ratcatcher]

Apparently an intelligent, but arrogant man, dedicated to the cause, but not in the same league as his pal Jatuporn, and given to running his mouth which has landed him in a spot more trouble. Nothing to worry about, "the system" will look after him.

[GentlemanJim]

Two things this country must do if it is ever to get the MP's working for this nation and not putting their hands in the treasuries till.

1. Get rid of the ridiculous defamation laws where if someone makes a truthful factual statement about someone else, they can face criminal charges. It is unbelievably stupid and designed to safeguard the wealthy only.

2. Get rid of parliamentary immunity for MP's facing criminal charges.

If the 'lawmakers' would do these two things in the service of their country, then Thailand would make leaps and bounds towards true, uncorrupt democracy. Simple really!

[Thai at Heart]

Two things this country must do if it is ever to get the MP's working for this nation and not putting their hands in the treasuries till.

1. Get rid of the ridiculous defamation laws where if someone makes a truthful factual statement about someone else, they can face criminal charges. It is unbelievably stupid and designed to safeguard the wealthy only.

2. Get rid of parliamentary immunity for MP's facing criminal charges.

If the 'lawmakers' would do these two things in the service of their country, then Thailand would make leaps and bounds towards true, uncorrupt democracy. Simple really!

But that makes moral and logical sense, and benefit the country as a whole.

None of them would ever vote for it.

[fstarbkk]

Two things this country must do if it is ever to get the MP's working for this nation and not putting their hands in the treasuries till.

1. Get rid of the ridiculous defamation laws where if someone makes a truthful factual statement about someone else, they can face criminal charges. It is unbelievably stupid and designed to safeguard the wealthy only.

2. Get rid of parliamentary immunity for MP's facing criminal charges.

If the 'lawmakers' would do these two things in the service of their country, then Thailand would make leaps and bounds towards true, uncorrupt democracy. Simple really!

This is about as likely to ever happen in our lifetime as campaign finance reforme in the US.

[Thai at Heart]

Two things this country must do if it is ever to get the MP's working for this nation and not putting their hands in the treasuries till.

1. Get rid of the ridiculous defamation laws where if someone makes a truthful factual statement about someone else, they can face criminal charges. It is unbelievably stupid and designed to safeguard the wealthy only.

2. Get rid of parliamentary immunity for MP's facing criminal charges.

If the 'lawmakers' would do these two things in the service of their country, then Thailand would make leaps and bounds towards true, uncorrupt democracy. Simple really!

This is about as likely to ever happen in our lifetime as campaign finance reforme in the US.

Well this was where abhisit failed completely. He could have sorted this minor stuff out in days and no one would gave even noticed.

He needs to man up and show what he really learnt oversees. If not, he's just another cog in the wheel.

[Thaddeus]

If the 'lawmakers' would do these two things in the service of their country, then Thailand would make leaps and bounds towards true, uncorrupt democracy. Simple really!

If the so called law makers abided by the current laws and didn't try to make more laws that suit only themselves, that would be a major step forward.

[rubl]

Isn't is time to start a campaign 'Korkaew for BKK Governor' Even from a compy, special jail for 'political' prisoners he'll be able to get permission to register, just like he did in 2010 for a BKK by-election.

I don't think laws have been changed yet to prevent this type of 'freedom'

[Thai at Heart]

If the 'lawmakers' would do these two things in the service of their country, then Thailand would make leaps and bounds towards true, uncorrupt democracy. Simple really!

If the so called law makers abided by the current laws and didn't try to make more laws that suit only themselves, that would be a major step forward.

Other than the 300 baht a day, what law has this government changed?

That is the essential nub of the problem. The opposition loves this loose democracy just as much as ptp.

The dems could declare war on corruption tomorrow, and lose half their mps.

[Thaddeus]

If the 'lawmakers' would do these two things in the service of their country, then Thailand would make leaps and bounds towards true, uncorrupt democracy. Simple really!

If the so called law makers abided by the current laws and didn't try to make more laws that suit only themselves, that would be a major step forward.

Other than the 300 baht a day, what law has this government changed?

That isn't a law.

And I did say try to change, i.e. trying to change the constitution so that Dear Leader can return to the place that he loves so much, as opposed to trying to make life better for the people that vote for them.

Anyone who thinks that Big T and the rest of his clan are 'for the people' is sadly deluded.

Edited November 30, 2012 by Thaddeus

[Thai at Heart]

If the 'lawmakers' would do these two things in the service of their country, then Thailand would make leaps and bounds towards true, uncorrupt democracy. Simple really!

If the so called law makers abided by the current laws and didn't try to make more laws that suit only themselves, that would be a major step forward.

Other than the 300 baht a day, what law has this government changed?

That isn't a law.

Next..........

It its part of the labor law. Now answer the rest of my post smartass.

[Thaddeus]

Now answer the rest of my post smartass.

I didn't have a problem with the other parts of your post.

[Thai at Heart]

Now answer the rest of my post smartass.

I didn't have a problem with the other parts of your post.

So name me a specific LAW they have changed.

Zero legislation to create what some would say is the most corrupt government Thailand has ever had.

No one closed any loopholes for 80 years because it suited them too. You just think how much work it takes to legislate allowing private home owners to put a solar cell on their house in Europe?

They haven't changed anything at all, the system is utterly corrupt, and anyone who sat in the that parliament for 10 years or more is complicit thorough lack of effort to stop it.

[Thaddeus]

So name me a specific LAW they have changed.

According to you the 300 baht a day one.

Edited November 30, 2012 by Thaddeus

[Thai at Heart]

deleted for the sake of sanity......

You really type slow.

Blame true. Flicky internet tonight. But still, name me a new LAW

[GentlemanJim]

The whole concept of a man hose bail has been revoked who is on terrorism charges, then being released a few days later to go back to parliament and be a 'law maker', is beyond the realms of stupidity. If any journo's from the Nation are reading this thread looking for ideas, then take it up will you for gaaawds sake.

[Thai at Heart]

The whole concept of a man hose bail has been revoked who is on terrorism charges, then being released a few days later to go back to parliament and be a 'law maker', is beyond the realms of stupidity. If any journo's from the Nation are reading this thread looking for ideas, then take it up will you for gaaawds sake.

Hear hear.

[Thaddeus]

deleted for the sake of sanity......

You really type slow.

Blame true. Flicky internet tonight. But still, name me a new LAW

The law of diminishing internet speed in Thailand..... that one is working pretty well so far

btw ..... Korkaew is a bit of a git.

[MAJIC]

Bail Revoked! In what Country in the World would anyone accused of Terrorism get Bail in the first place.

Oh! I forgot, he was/is a MP.

Edited November 30, 2012 by MAJIC

[MAJIC]

I love how they title an MP as law maker.

Has a certain wild west or chuck norris movie feeling to it. MP obviously isn't dramatic enough.

How about Law Breaker?

[15Peter20]

Bail Revoked! In what Country in the World would anyone accused of Terrorism get Bail in the first place.

Oh! I forgot, he was/is a MP.

Is he being accused of terrorism? A simple yes or no will do, but somehow I don't expect we'll get either.

[MAJIC]

Bail Revoked! In what Country in the World would anyone accused of Terrorism get Bail in the first place.

Oh! I forgot, he was/is a MP.

Is he being accused of terrorism? A simple yes or no will do, but somehow I don't expect we'll get either.

BANGKOK, Nov 30, 2012 (AFP) - A lawmaker who was among the key leaders of Thailand's "Red Shirt" street protests in 2010 was jailed Friday after a court revoked his bail on terrorism charges linked to the demonstrations.

Well Peter it doesn't seem you have read the OP before replying,read the original posting as above,and it is quite clear,he is being accused of Terrorism charges. So a simple Yes,for one,is my answer!

[webfact]

UPDATE:

Threat to court lands Korkaew back in jail

Pravit Rojanaphruk

The Nation

Korkaew Pikulthong, a red-shirt leader and Pheu Thai Party MP, flashes a victory sign as he is led away by Corrections Department officials to Bangkok Special Remand Prison after the Criminal Court revoked his bail in a case involving the 2010 political unrest.

BANGKOK: -- The Criminal Court yesterday jailed Pheu Thai party-list MP Korkaew Pikulthong after revoking the terrorism suspect's bail for threatening the Constitution Court and creating fear in society.

In July, Korkaew told the media and red shirts that if the Constitution Court ruled against the charter-amendment bid, there could be civil war. He told red shirts to be prepared to fight to the end.

"The intention [of the defendant] was to threaten and pressure" the Constitution Court, the Criminal Court said in its ruling, which was read yesterday. "It was not criticism but incitement of people for political benefit … It is considered a threat" to the Constitution Court.

The ruling also noted that Korkaew's remarks created fear in society and were thus a clear violation of the bail conditions in his terrorism case stemming from the bloody 2010 red-shirt protests and riots.

Judges instructed four other red-shirt MPs that they must not defame others and must not "incite" their followers to take any political action. The four are Pheu Thai party-list MP Weng Tojirakarn, Deputy Commerce Minister Nattawut Saikua, Pheu Thai's Wiputhalaeng Pattanphoomthai and Pheu Thai's Karun Hosakul.

Korkaew told The Nation before the ruling that the petition to the court, made by Democrat Party MP Pinij Intarasombat, was part of a move to keep Pheu Thai from trying to discover who masterminded the deaths of more than 90 people in the violence of April-May 2010.

"This is a political issue, using the court to shut [our] mouths," Korkaew said.

He added that he was dismayed at the Constitution Court, which submitted a DVD showing video recordings of Korkaew addressing red shirts. Korkaew insisted he had only made a prediction to the media that opposition to charter change by the court could lead to civil war.

He said he told people to prepare for unprecedented clashes and told red shirts to stock up on food and water and to bid goodbye to their family members in order to fight a possible coup, adding that they should fight "eye to eye".

Wearing a grey suit and bright-red necktie, Korkaew was quickly led by court officers from the seventh-floor courtroom at the Criminal Court to Bangkok Special Remand Prison. Korkaew's parliamentary immunity did not apply, since the House in not in session and there is debate regarding his status as a member of Parliament.

Dozens of red shirts in front of the Criminal Court greeted the news with anger. One told The Nation that he only trusted the court about 60 or 70 per cent, not fully. "I think the court observes which way the winds of power are blowing," Noppakao Kongsuwan said.

Suchart Singkham, a non-red-shirt taxi driver, criticised red shirts who cause inconvenience by assembling in front of the court. "They praise the court when the rulings go their way. They curse the judges when it turns out otherwise," he said.

In a related development, red-shirt co-leader and Pheu Thai party-list MP Jatuporn Promphan announced that red shirts would hold a demonstration at Bonanza Khao Yai in Nakhon Ratchasima province on December 22. He warned that anti-government group Pitak Siam would redouble its efforts to oust the Yingluck Shinawatra administration after December 11.

Jatuporn told the red shirts not to praise the government overly, saying it must be warned when needed.

-- The Nation 2012-12-01

[asiawatcher]

I think the law here is so devoid of actual law it is laughable. Anyone accused of terrorism, even this goose, should be enough to remove them/him from an MP status, who cares if he is or has been convicted - and it should be until 'further notice' with pay suspension and as well as all benefits. Given bail? Only in Thailand...