So, depending on how you count days, my trip is 38 days long. I had thought i could just land, get the 30 day tourist visa, just over to cambodia on day 25 to see angkor wat for a night or two and then come back into thailand and get the 15day visa.

I'm now worrying that:

1. I wont even be let into the country since the visa is 30 days and i have no proof of onward travel.

2. If i am able to get into the country and head to cambodia that thailand won't allow me back in because of something to do with single/double entry visas.

I have a full week before my trip and a thai consulate 2 hours away from me so if i absolutely HAVE to i can go get a 60day visa (do i absolutely need to? Do i HAVE to spend the extra money to get multiple entry visa (i believe it doubles the price). I don't mind spending the money if thats the way it has to be but of course i'd rather spend that money locally with thai people than with visas.

Thanks for the help in advance. My head is swimming trying to research all this.

Edited December 1, 201213 yr by ahreno

Thai Immigration at the airport , most likely, will not ask for onward travel, however it is your chosen airline that might insist on proof. Suggest that you prepare a online air ticket to show them that you plan to leave Thailand before the 30days are over.

could you clarify "prepare an online air ticket". Does this mean just buy a cheap flight somewhere out of country? will i have a problem leaving thailand on day 25 and returning on day 27 and receiving a new 15 day visa?

thanks for your reply. much appreciated

could you clarify "prepare an online air ticket". Does this mean just buy a cheap flight somewhere out of country? will i have a problem leaving thailand on day 25 and returning on day 27 and receiving a new 15 day visa?

thanks for your reply. much appreciated

Yes, you could just book a cheap online air ticket , one way, for example Bangkok to Siam Reap.

You could than enter Thailand by land to get 15days, usually Thai immigration do not ask for onward travel arrangement, however please dress appropriate when turning up at Thai Immigration.

Get a single entry tourist visa before you leave the US. Cost $40 + courrier service. If you plan to go to see Cambodia, get a double entry visa, cost $80. It will save you the hassle of having to get a reentry permit. You can do it by mail. The Consulate in Portland is very friendly. Here's the details: Visa application porcedures, Portland Oregon.doc

If you intend to do yoir side trip to Cambodia near the end of your stay, You can get a single and leave and renter using a visa exepmt entry which will give you 15 days. The problem of not having a visa, is not immigration, but the Airline. They might not let you board the aircraft without a ticket exiting Thailand during the first 30 days

We definately plan on going to angkor wat (its safe besides a few scams on the way right?) the last half of the trip. We have reservations on Ko Tao until about jan 5th... and planned to go sometime after that. With that in mind, would you recommend doing the single entry visa with a plane ticket pre purchased to somewhere? (hopefully we could find a refundable one). It looks like plane tickets to siam reap are far from cheap at over 11k baht.

I'd rather not pay for the double entry if thailand will just give me the 15 day visa on return from cambodia. This is probalby my biggest point of confusion right now. Do i need a double entry if i leave and then come back? It sounds like the visa exempt entry will get around needing the double entry and would give me the extra 15 days i need.

A trip to Angkor is safe.

Follow Wayned advise and get a Single Entry Tourist, this saves you the ticket issue.

Upon return from Cambodia to Thailand you will get, by land, a 15day visa waiver or visa exempt stamp.

Edited December 1, 201213 yr by visarunner

it's better to get the single entry visa BEFORE i leave? Can't i just get it when i go through customs and whatever when i land in thailand?

Follow Wayned advise and get a Single Entry Tourist, this saves you the ticket issue.

it seems that the issue is the airline having issues with me not having a long enough visa... which is why i would need to show the ticket to a different country... at least thats my understanding

Yes, get the visa now, before you leave. If you have a visa you don't have to worry about the ticket out of Thailand within 30 days. You will be given 60 days permission to stay on entry.

If you come without getting a tourist visa, and purchase a ticket exiting Thailand witin 30 days, you will be granted 30 days permission to stay. This is not a visa, it is a "visa exempt" entry. As you say the tickets are not that cheap especially now at the last minute during "high" season. Get the single entry visa!

There is no issue entering Thailand. The only maybe is getting on flight. So if you do not have time to obtain a tourist visa make sure to check-in at airport with enough time to allow purchase of a flight to Cambodia or elsewhere within the allowed 30 days and you will be fine (you can use/refund/discard later) - suspect with r/t ticket they may not even notice the dates but if they do buying a ticket will take care of it.

personally i wouldn't worry about getting a visa,

you can first call the airline and ask there policy - you may find it's just one way travellers they are concerned about,

also ask them about a document you can sign at check in saying that if you get deported from thailand you will pay for the flight home and not at the airlines expence.

if they still wont let you check in you can also book a cheap last minute disposible flight with air asia with-in your 30 days - there's many HYI - KL price is 929 baht + 199 processing fee, if you don't use the flight you can claim back the airport tax which is 900 baht minus a 200 baht admin fee.

what flights are you looking for to goto cambodia ? maybe you could fly to PP then take a bus to siam reap ?

i think there's also a 7 day emergency extension you can get if you don't want to leave thailand,

maybe you could apply for one 7 days before your flight home ?

immigration may want you to pay for 1 day fine of 500 baht.

what are your travel dates ?

i have not done this so i'm unsure also i have never had a problem checking in at the airport, there must be many people travelling to thailand even on one way tickets and no visas surely ? how do they do it

He said 38 days, not 37. On the last day of your visa exempt permission to stay you can apply for and extension. They will deny it, but will normally give you 7 days to "clear out". Usually you have to have a ticket leaving during those 7 days. If you were the one coming, would you risk it? I still advise to get a single entry tourist visa and be done with it!

He said 38 days, not 37. On the last day of your visa exempt permission to stay you can apply for and extension. They will deny it, but will normally give you 7 days to "clear out". Usually you have to have a ticket leaving during those 7 days. If you were the one coming, would you risk it? I still advise to get a single entry tourist visa and be done with it!

If it were me I would look at the cost of my flights, travel, hotels etc and decide that for paece of mind I would spend the extra money and get a double entry 60 day visa BEFORE I left. The extra cost is minimal compared to the worry that maybe/maybe not I will be lucky and I won't get any hassle or problems that leave me stuch in this country or that and Thailand saying Sorry, not this time you screwed up. Consider it insurance, you never need it until you are without it.

i was informing him about the 7 day extension incase he comes to thailand and ends up not going to ankor wat, better to extend 7 days than pay 500 baht a day fines.

i'm not sure what he's saying about depending how you count days ? maybe he's staying 36 whole days an 2 days are his flying days ?

if his flight gets in late maybe he could stay in the airport a few hours and walk through immigration just after midnight reducing his stay by one day ?

i have checked into many flights and airlines haven't asked about my visa for thailand, i did asked once though on a long haul one way flight and i had to show them my visa.

i think there's some reports where people have had this problem and they said they signed a document at check in .

i'd call the airline or do some research,

seems pointless to get a visa and goto ankor wat if there's a way around it.

there's some cheap flights with cambodia ankor air - bkk to siam reap many in december for 2,300 baht,

flying back you can go from phnom penn to samui quite cheaply then to koh tao.

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actually your stay is 39 days.

if your worried about problems with cambodia visa and getting conned you can buy an e-visa online (25$ , it can cost you more if they make you pay in baht or get conned).

samui fligths are expensive, looks like only bangkok air , i must have got lucky i flew from samui to PP quite cheaply but it was a while ago.

you can fly to surat thani and get a ferry to samui then to onto ko tao.

if you don't have a thai visa and you do a land crossing into thailand you only get 15 days allow stay so you'll have to do that around the 3rd jan.

where are you thinking to visit around the start of jan ?

He said 38 days, not 37. On the last day of your visa exempt permission to stay you can apply for and extension. They will deny it, but will normally give you 7 days to "clear out". Usually you have to have a ticket leaving during those 7 days. If you were the one coming, would you risk it? I still advise to get a single entry tourist visa and be done with it!

If it were me I would look at the cost of my flights, travel, hotels etc and decide that for paece of mind I would spend the extra money and get a double entry 60 day visa BEFORE I left. The extra cost is minimal compared to the worry that maybe/maybe not I will be lucky and I won't get any hassle or problems that leave me stuch in this country or that and Thailand saying Sorry, not this time you screwed up. Consider it insurance, you never need it until you are without it.

As long as your second entry into Thailand is on January 3 or later, there is absolutely no need for a double entry visa. You'll get a permission to stay for 15 days.

You need a single entry tourist visa, or a flight out on or before Jan 8, or confirmation from your airline that they will let you board with neither.

Since we're planning on going to Angkor Wat anyway, could we just buy our bus ticket out there just in case?

i guess that wouldn't work since the bus ticket would just be to the border city still in thailand

i guess that wouldn't work since the bus ticket would just be to the border city still in thailand

No, actually if you do get the ticket or tour to Ankhor what then the company will wait at the border crossing for you to pass customs then continue to AK on same bus or maybe even different transportation on other side that go to AK. In any case when you do come back into Thailand is easy no problem to get 15 days PROVIDING you go to a border crossing that does have immigration setup that can supply 15 day entry.Some small obscure border crossings do not have the facility to provide visa entry and can only stamp an already existing entry you have in passport.

For you i dont know why these other posters make you worry. i never heard any airline be so bad that they want to bother you on a flight you aleady did pay for.If you get some little nazi airline attendant want to power trip and big note himself and ask you the question is easy enough to say all the rest of your trip will be done from border crossings to joining countries and then you will buy return ticket home when you need to go...nothing they can do about it

only once did some (frustrated fat female airline attendent) ask if i had a return ticket to which i tell her that same story.She walk away to talk to someone for a few and come back and process the ticket anyway.im sure you will have no trouble providing you dont look like homeless bum

If they let you on the aircraft without a return ticket or a visa, which is an pre-approved entry documnet to Thailand, and you are refused entry for any reason, the Airline is fined! Then maybe that "nazi airline" will deduct the fine from the "frustrated fat female airline attendant" that let you on the flight without proper documentation which was against airline policy. People are denied entrance sometimes, there is currently a thread running about someone that was blacklisted for a drug charge and was denied entrance, so it can happen! What's so difficult about playing the game by the rules?

this guys already paid for a return ticket so how can the airline lose , i think he will be allowed to check in, if he has a problem ask to speak to someone in charge and ask if there's something he can sign to say he'll pay any fines etc,

at a last resort he can always book a cheap flight to KL as mentioned above and he'll only lose 10$.

he can goto cambodia and come back by land to cover his overstay issue.

i don't know why he doesn't fly to siam reap which covers both potential problems - he can always find a tour company to take him around the temples and probably back to thailand or there's an easy bus he can get.

easy for us to say it's him who's got to travel far also he doesn't want it playing on his mind.

good luck what ever you decide,

The airline can and will have to pay a fine and could lose there landing rights. This is taken very seriously by most airlines with little room for such added liabilities. Some understand these laws are not often used and most local flights are not as exacting but when only going by the "rules" they can be very strict.

The airline can and will have to pay a fine and could lose there landing rights. This is taken very seriously by most airlines with little room for such added liabilities. Some understand these laws are not often used and most local flights are not as exacting but when only going by the "rules" they can be very strict.

Spot on Lopburi

Here is a link to the same system airlines use to validate documents at check in. If the computer says no there is no chance they'll let you board.

http://www.staralliance.com/en/services/visa-and-health/

i have entered thailand on a one way ticket and no visa before.

does any body know about something that can be signed at check in to satisfy the airline so they will let you fly irrespective ?

i recommend you goto the airport early if you don't get a tourist visa for your holiday,