SwissMate78 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Hi Everyone, I thought I was going through a simple divorce yet at signing she turned up with a Thai lawyer and demanded 100'000 baht alimony!? Now I'm gonna fight it! We were married may 28, 2011. No children, no property in Thailand. I have a house in Europe but its pre-marriage. In Switzerland she would get about $400 (part of my pension). Anyone got any experience? I've got a police report of a incident she was taken away in Switzerland for assault and drunken behaviour. Also she unregistered herself from Swiss immigration after and left (march 2012). Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 How badly do you want the divorce? How long can you wait? What negotiating levers do you have? (What do you have that she wants?) Can you just walk away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potosi Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Too little information. Do you live now, and plan to stay in Thailand or Switzerland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Since when did Thais do alimony? Particularly when there were no kids. Sent from my HTC phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murgatroyd Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 This 100 K Baht... is it a one off payment or an ongoing support thing? It's only about 2K GBP and some people would consider a divorce cheap at that price! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancealot Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Welcome to the club swissmate. You are not alone. You will be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissMate78 Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 I plan to live 50% in Europe and the other in Thailand. I don't want to pay her out of principal, I'd rather give that money to the lawyers as she's been a real pain in the ass alcoholic and abusive woman. She just wants the money. The longer I leave it the more rights she gets in regards to Europe. Reason I'm asking because I read also Thais don't do support, yet on some Thai legal sites they mention "maintenance payments". She wouldn't get alimony or "support" in Europe due to the short marriage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Under Thai law there is no alimoney, only child maintenance is recognised under Thai law. Both are entitled to half of the "gains" the other psouse made during the marriage. (That could include any debts). If you get a divorce at an amphur you can enter a divorce agreement, in which you can agree about the settlement of the division of property or giving a sum of money or giving a payment every month. That is up to you and would be a binding contract. The divorce at the amphur is quick, 30 minutes. if you cannot come to an agreement you will have to go to court, which takes much longer, costs a lot of money and can only be granted based on the grounds mentioned in the law. http://thailawonline.com/en/family/divorce-in-thailand/how-to-divorce.html If you want a quick divorce, you might want to come to an agrement about giving her some money. it will save you the trouble, stress and money of going to court. Have your own lawyer and be sure that you know what you sign at the amphur. Don't just sign a document provided by her (lawyer). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano2274 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 It does not matter how long the marriage was in Europe, you were legally Man and wife, and she has some rights. I would make it my point to say to her, 100K then leave me alone and get her to sign something and get it witnessed, then move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedghog Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Pay her and good riddance,if she's as bad as you say,then move on.sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyce Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 (edited) Play the waiting game , and let her sweat it out she will soon loose interest when she she's how much it will cost her in lawyers fees, just change your location when you come to thaland and your fone numbers. Save your money give her nothing i you have a condo sell it and move on to onother place and stay. Edited December 10, 2012 by Boyce 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancelot Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 How badly do you want the divorce? How long can you wait? What negotiating levers do you have? (What do you have that she wants?) Can you just walk away? If we get to vote, mine is walk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyce Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 How badly do you want the divorce? How long can you wait? What negotiating levers do you have? (What do you have that she wants?) Can you just walk away? If we get to vote, mine is walk +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommoPhysicist Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 (edited) Just do nothing, don't employ a solicitor, don't reply to her. What can she do, nothing. Being married to you is a big problem for her. No property scams on other foreigners, just wait. She will be begging you for a 'free' divorce in six months. Edited December 10, 2012 by TommoPhysicist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I think the OP is concerned that the wife will sue for divorce in Switzerland. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommoPhysicist Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I think the OP is concerned that the wife will sue for divorce in Switzerland. She won't have access to the Swiss legal system, and won't be allowed back without her husband signing her Visa application. (as they were only married last year) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I think the OP is concerned that the wife will sue for divorce in Switzerland. She won't have access to the Swiss legal system, and won't be allowed back without her husband signing her Visa application. (as they were only married last year) Are you quite sure? In the UK I believe you can. You don't need to be in a country to have legal representation there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotto Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Tell her no honey no money 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommoPhysicist Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 (edited) I think the OP is concerned that the wife will sue for divorce in Switzerland. She won't have access to the Swiss legal system, and won't be allowed back without her husband signing her Visa application. (as they were only married last year) Are you quite sure? In the UK I believe you can. You don't need to be in a country to have legal representation there. In the UK theoretically you can, but in actuality they give you the run around until you go away. Very few of the western countries will actually allow non-western people access to their legal system if they have no right of residence. But many pay lip service to the idea out of some sort of 'political correctness'. Edited December 10, 2012 by TommoPhysicist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post David48 Posted December 10, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2012 The Mod Mario2008 gives well considered advice ... he's seen this before 100 times ... and more, I'd wager. The claim of Baht 100,000 is an opening shot as part of the negotiation. My suggestion is to counter with Baht 20,000 and agree to Baht 30,000 or Baht 35,000 when she counters. I'm just looking at the business perspective of your question. . 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 You can also check if she has a boyfriend and then issue a demand charging for damages for adultery. You would be eligible for damages and she may back down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissMate78 Posted December 10, 2012 Author Share Posted December 10, 2012 I think the OP is concerned that the wife will sue for divorce in Switzerland. Correct. As every dollar i earn still now that goes towards my pension I need to give her a % of. I told her after the meeting I would give her $400 (about 10'000 baht) but she refused. She did send me a hate mail last September of her and an Australian boyfriend who apparently wanted to take her to Australia. But I erased it I guess that would have been useful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommoPhysicist Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I think the OP is concerned that the wife will sue for divorce in Switzerland. Correct. As every dollar i earn still now that goes towards my pension I need to give her a % of. I told her after the meeting I would give her $400 (about 10'000 baht) but she refused. She did send me a hate mail last September of her and an Australian boyfriend who apparently wanted to take her to Australia. But I erased it I guess that would have been useful. She can't get a Visa to visit Australia while she is married to you. If she gets pregnant, it will be your child and not his. You can take him to court for damages and compensation, by having sex with your wife. I'm surprised she isn't offering you money for a divorce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pormax Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 So she wants the divorce so that she can go to Australia with her new boyfriend. She is the one demanding money. You at the moment do not need a quick divorce. My advice is play along with her games making excuses why you can't meet to sign papers etc. She will be the one to come running to you if it drags on long enough. Then when she is desperate for divorce so she can go to Australia (that is if this is the truth) tell her ok will sign but no money, honey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Boyce Posted December 10, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2012 Get her to hate mail you again , about her new boyfriend ,and use that as evidence in your divorce, be nice to her and ask her about her plans to go to aussie.be sneaky just like she's being to you. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Check with your e mail provider about retrieving deleted e mails! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Check with your e mail provider about retrieving deleted e mails! Lots of work and maybe expensive. Good idea unless he can, as other posters said, get her to send more!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endure Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Check with your e mail provider about retrieving deleted e mails! Lots of work and maybe expensive. Good idea unless he can, as other posters said, get her to send more!! If the OP uses Gmail it will still be on their servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyce Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Get her to hate mail you again , about her new boyfriend ,and use that as evidence in your divorce, be nice to her and ask her about her plans to go to aussie.be sneaky just like she's being to you. Check with your e mail provider about retrieving deleted e mails! Lots of work and maybe expensive. Good idea unless he can, as other posters said, get her to send more!! That's what i think , it will work if she thinks she's getting the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uty6543 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 IMO give her the money. your freedom and peace of mind is worth a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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