webfact Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Thai woman tricked and sexually abused by Brazilian drug traffickers A 24-year-old Thai woman was invited to visit Brazil by a work colleague, but instead she got raped by black men and ordered to smuggle drugs back to Thailand or she would be killed. The Paveena Hongsakul foundation helped bring the victim back home. Thai girls are continually being victimized abroad by human traffickers, the foundation warned. BANGKOK – December 9, 2012 [PDN]: A young Thai woman narrowly escaped becoming an unwilling drug courier after she was tricked by a work colleague into flying to Brazil for a visit. After being raped and beaten, the victim managed to contact her friend, who sought the help of Mrs. Paveena Hongsakul, chairman of the Paveena Hongsakul for children and women foundation. The victim’s friend told Mrs. Paveena that “Ms. B,” (alias), age 24, had been tricked into going to Brazil. After Ms. B arrived in Brazil, she was threatened and ordered to secretly smuggle drugs back to Thailand by packing it in her luggage. But Ms. B had managed to send her friend a phone text message that said, “Help! I’m forced to carry drugs. If I protest I will get killed.” When Ms. B’s friend got the phone message, she was afraid that the drug smugglers would kill Ms. B, so she called the Paveena foundation. Mrs. Paveena began gathering information and tracking down the victim, until she found where she was staying in Brazil. She then contacted and coordinated rescue efforts with Mr. Surapong Tovijakchaikul from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs; Pol. Gen. Pongsapat Pongjarearn, general secretary of the Office of Narcotics Control Board; and the Thai ambassador in Brazil. Officials rushed to help the Thai girl. It was not long before Ms. B was rescued from her captors and placed in the care of the embassy of Thai kingdom in Brazil. On December 7, she was flown from Sao Paulo back to Thailand. Ms. B told authorities how she came to be deceived and kidnapped. Ms. B works for a company in Bangkok, and during the holiday, a work colleague, “Ms. C,” (alias) invited her to come visit Brazil for a week. Ms. C said she was flying back home soon, and she promised to pick up Ms. B when she arrived in Brazil. But when Ms. B arrived in Brazil, Ms. C was not there to pick her up at the airport. She could not find her, so Ms. B went to stay at the Omega Hotel. The next day, Ms. B got a call from Ms. C, who said she was already back in Thailand. Then several black men were knocking on Ms. B’s door. They entered the room when she opened the door. The men then threatened Ms. B, and ordered her to transport drugs back to Thailand by hiding cocaine in her underwear and in her vagina. There was a special bag for Ms. B to carry to Thailand, and when she got back to Thailand, someone at the airport would be waiting to pick her up. The men said Ms. B if not do what they said, she would be killed. Ms. B was so afraid. Then she was raped and beaten by the men. Full story: http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2012/12/11/raped-thai-woman-tricked-by-brazil-traffickers/ -- Pattaya Daily News 2012-12-11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimay1 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Very sad and unfortunate. I wonder if the BIB are going after Ms. C. She should spend the rest of her days in prison if she indeed did what Ms. B said she did. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post geriatrickid Posted December 11, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2012 Why does this article emphasize "Black men"? Would it not suffice to say Brazilian males? Does the use of the colour of skin add emphasis to the horrors of this tale? 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 15Peter20 Posted December 11, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2012 Mrs. Paveena is much to be admired. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Billmont Posted December 11, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2012 Why does this article emphasize "Black men"? Would it not suffice to say Brazilian males? Does the use of the colour of skin add emphasis to the horrors of this tale? Perhaps they were not Brazilian males! Maybe they were indeed "Black Men" from the countries that seem to specialise in drugs as can be seen in parts of Bangkok. These type of people get everywhere and why not Brazil. I think Thai women know the difference between brown and black! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterdarby Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 She probably gave the best description she could - maybe she could not tell if they were brazilian or part of an international gang trafficking drugs through Brazil. She could tell their skin colour. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Para Posted December 11, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2012 Whilst I feel there is a little more to this story nothing negates the bravery of the young woman. Rather than try and smuggle the drugs into Thailand and offer this story as an excuse she actually did something about it before. Commendable. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post falang07 Posted December 11, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2012 Who paid for the trip? I doubt a young Thai girl would pay the plane ticket and go alone to Brazil for one week. Seems to me that his could have been easily avoided if she had some common sense. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTang Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Why does this article emphasize "Black men"? Would it not suffice to say Brazilian males? Does the use of the colour of skin add emphasis to the horrors of this tale? That was probably her description of the perps. If it was two men in pink suits with purple fedoras that's probably what the headline would have read. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docno Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Why does this article emphasize "Black men"? Would it not suffice to say Brazilian males? Does the use of the colour of skin add emphasis to the horrors of this tale? Perhaps they were not Brazilian males! Maybe they were indeed "Black Men" from the countries that seem to specialise in drugs as can be seen in parts of Bangkok. These type of people get everywhere and why not Brazil. I think Thai women know the difference between brown and black! The skin colour of the perps is totally irrelevant to whether or not they were Brazilians (a large proportion of the Brazilian population is of African or mixed ancestry) and it's also irrelevant to a news story. At best it may be relevant to the police conducting the investigation. But it has no place or value in a news story. Last week, here in Singapore, the headline was 'Caucasian passenger beats taxi driver'. Can you see how that is both irrelevant and offensive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globeman Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Why does this article emphasize "Black men"? Would it not suffice to say Brazilian males? Does the use of the colour of skin add emphasis to the horrors of this tale? Yep, the skin colour is completely irrelevant to the story... it must have made it seem more scary to the writer/editor. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whidbeyboy Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I wonder what Mr. T's role in all of this was? Don't know, but I pity the fool. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post edwardandtubs Posted December 11, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2012 Why does this article emphasize "Black men"? Would it not suffice to say Brazilian males? Does the use of the colour of skin add emphasis to the horrors of this tale? Yep, the skin colour is completely irrelevant to the story... it must have made it seem more scary to the writer/editor. Keep your political correctness drivel in your own country. Any descriptive fact is relevant to the story. I'm glad to live in a country where these things are not censored. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Billmont Posted December 11, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2012 Why does this article emphasize "Black men"? Would it not suffice to say Brazilian males? Does the use of the colour of skin add emphasis to the horrors of this tale? Perhaps they were not Brazilian males! Maybe they were indeed "Black Men" from the countries that seem to specialise in drugs as can be seen in parts of Bangkok. These type of people get everywhere and why not Brazil. I think Thai women know the difference between brown and black! The skin colour of the perps is totally irrelevant to whether or not they were Brazilians (a large proportion of the Brazilian population is of African or mixed ancestry) and it's also irrelevant to a news story. At best it may be relevant to the police conducting the investigation. But it has no place or value in a news story. Last week, here in Singapore, the headline was 'Caucasian passenger beats taxi driver'. Can you see how that is both irrelevant and offensive? Sorry No! I think that the Caucasian description is very relevant, I am caucasian and I am certainly not offended. Why are you so sensitive about a description of a person? Reading other posts that quote your original post I think most agree with me. You need to lighten up (no pun intended and I hope the word lighten does not offend you) and stop trying to be so politically correct. I always call a spade a spade and on occasions I even call a spade a F*****g Shovel! 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilgore Trout Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Why does this article emphasize "Black men"? Would it not suffice to say Brazilian males? Does the use of the colour of skin add emphasis to the horrors of this tale? for thai people, yes Sent from my GT-S5660 using Thaivisa Connect App 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RisqEM Posted December 11, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2012 This happened to a friend of mine. She met a Brazilian guy who told her how much he loved her, and took her to Brazil one month after meeting her to "meet his parents". I explained that it didn't sound right, and she went, but came back and was arrested cause she did what they asked. With the influx of foreign nationals, and the sheer amount of scumbags who like to call Thailand home, paired with the sex industry that's so prevalent in the country, maybe Thailand should start educating people through different media outlets about the dangers in this world. This isn't a new story, drug dealers the world over do this (I'm from a place like this). Show Locked Up Abroad in Thai or something!!! Protect your population by educating your population! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Whidbeyboy Posted December 11, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2012 Why does this article emphasize "Black men"? Would it not suffice to say Brazilian males? Does the use of the colour of skin add emphasis to the horrors of this tale? Perhaps they were not Brazilian males! Maybe they were indeed "Black Men" from the countries that seem to specialise in drugs as can be seen in parts of Bangkok. These type of people get everywhere and why not Brazil. I think Thai women know the difference between brown and black! The skin colour of the perps is totally irrelevant to whether or not they were Brazilians (a large proportion of the Brazilian population is of African or mixed ancestry) and it's also irrelevant to a news story. At best it may be relevant to the police conducting the investigation. But it has no place or value in a news story. Last week, here in Singapore, the headline was 'Caucasian passenger beats taxi driver'. Can you see how that is both irrelevant and offensive? Dosen't bother me and I have been a caucasian all my life. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilgore Trout Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Why does this article emphasize "Black men"? Would it not suffice to say Brazilian males? Does the use of the colour of skin add emphasis to the horrors of this tale? Perhaps they were not Brazilian males! Maybe they were indeed "Black Men" from the countries that seem to specialise in drugs as can be seen in parts of Bangkok. These type of people get everywhere and why not Brazil. I think Thai women know the difference between brown and black! The skin colour of the perps is totally irrelevant to whether or not they were Brazilians (a large proportion of the Brazilian population is of African or mixed ancestry) and it's also irrelevant to a news story. At best it may be relevant to the police conducting the investigation. But it has no place or value in a news story. Last week, here in Singapore, the headline was 'Caucasian passenger beats taxi driver'. Can you see how that is both irrelevant and offensive? Sorry No! I think that the Caucasian description is very relevant, I am caucasian and I am certainly not offended. Why are you so sensitive about a description of a person? Reading other posts that quote your original post I think most agree with me. You need to lighten up (no pun intended and I hope the word lighten does not offend you) and stop trying to be so politically correct. I always call a spade a spade and on occasions I even call a spade a F*****g Shovel! Im quite sure, if surrounded by a few of my black friends, you would not call them spades, lest you would be eating thru a straw for the rest of your days Sent from my GT-S5660 using Thaivisa Connect App 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docno Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Why does this article emphasize "Black men"? Would it not suffice to say Brazilian males? Does the use of the colour of skin add emphasis to the horrors of this tale? Perhaps they were not Brazilian males! Maybe they were indeed "Black Men" from the countries that seem to specialise in drugs as can be seen in parts of Bangkok. These type of people get everywhere and why not Brazil. I think Thai women know the difference between brown and black! The skin colour of the perps is totally irrelevant to whether or not they were Brazilians (a large proportion of the Brazilian population is of African or mixed ancestry) and it's also irrelevant to a news story. At best it may be relevant to the police conducting the investigation. But it has no place or value in a news story. Last week, here in Singapore, the headline was 'Caucasian passenger beats taxi driver'. Can you see how that is both irrelevant and offensive? Sorry No! I think that the Caucasian description is very relevant, I am caucasian and I am certainly not offended. Why are you so sensitive about a description of a person? Reading other posts that quote your original post I think most agree with me. You need to lighten up (no pun intended and I hope the word lighten does not offend you) and stop trying to be so politically correct. I always call a spade a spade and on occasions I even call a spade a F*****g Shovel! Well, this is the first time I've been called politically correct. My friends will have a good laugh over this. If you read my post again, it's not about 'political correctness' (which you've thrown in reflexively in this case) but about relevance. You have not explained the relevance of skin colour to the reporting of this case or the other example I gave. Why stop there? Why not say they were wearing Levis or that they'd eaten pizza for lunch? It would be just as relevant... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Whidbeyboy Posted December 11, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2012 Why does this article emphasize "Black men"? Would it not suffice to say Brazilian males? Does the use of the colour of skin add emphasis to the horrors of this tale? Yep, the skin colour is completely irrelevant to the story... it must have made it seem more scary to the writer/editor. Keep your political correctness drivel in your own country. Any descriptive fact is relevant to the story. I'm glad to live in a country where these things are not censored. Agreed. It seems in the US they go out of the way not to say black when giving descriptions, but to say white, that's OK. We are so darn worried about being called racist that we have become something worse. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nisa Posted December 11, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2012 Why does this article emphasize "Black men"? Would it not suffice to say Brazilian males? Does the use of the colour of skin add emphasis to the horrors of this tale? I am not sure it is being emphasized let alone being used to make the story more horrific. It may just be a matter of being descriptive and no different than saying they were Asian men or had dreadlocks. In this case the point was probably more about an indication they were likely Brazilian but it is possible the victim didn't know for sure. However, if it is more culturally horrific for a Thai to be raped by a black person then why should it not be mentioned? It may indicate a lack of exposure and knowledge about black people by Thais but if it is the truth then why not report it? I have extremely liberal views on race and equal rights but feel embarrassed to be part of the human race when they believe the best way to address equality issues is to pretend we are stupid and can't see or mention certain distinguishing characteristics of somebody. I don't believe it is important to mention the color of a person's skin or their weight or height unless it is relevant to the story but get tired of reading stories in the west about somebody who commits a crime and they give all the descriptive information of the person to the public except the color of their skin. To me this is much more racist. One thing I enjoy about Thailand is the ability for Thai people to describe people by the most obvious attributes without anyone taking offence as if they don't know they have this attribute. If a waiter in a restaurant needs to tell a server what table to deliver food and it is to a group of farangs, they will say "it is for the table with the farangs" ... were in the west it would be an insult to say "it is for the table with the Asians" .... as if we don't know we are Asians or farangs or that one should feel bad about being either. Bottom line is if you are fat, black, white or short, it is what you are and to believe people should pretend they don't see these things is to me just bizzare. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTang Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Why does this article emphasize "Black men"? Would it not suffice to say Brazilian males? Does the use of the colour of skin add emphasis to the horrors of this tale? Yep, the skin colour is completely irrelevant to the story... it must have made it seem more scary to the writer/editor. Yes but it seems to be the new normal when it comes to the Main Stream Media. Look at the Treyvon Martin case in the US; evil white man shoots and kills little black boy. As the facts came out things started to change drastically. If the MSM is trying to create animosity between races (for what ever reason) it seems to be working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docno Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Why does this article emphasize "Black men"? Would it not suffice to say Brazilian males? Does the use of the colour of skin add emphasis to the horrors of this tale? Perhaps they were not Brazilian males! Maybe they were indeed "Black Men" from the countries that seem to specialise in drugs as can be seen in parts of Bangkok. These type of people get everywhere and why not Brazil. I think Thai women know the difference between brown and black! The skin colour of the perps is totally irrelevant to whether or not they were Brazilians (a large proportion of the Brazilian population is of African or mixed ancestry) and it's also irrelevant to a news story. At best it may be relevant to the police conducting the investigation. But it has no place or value in a news story. Last week, here in Singapore, the headline was 'Caucasian passenger beats taxi driver'. Can you see how that is both irrelevant and offensive? Dosen't bother me and I have been a caucasian all my life. Yeah, it sticks with me too. However, what was interesting was the reaction this Singapore headline provoked in readers. Lots of people saying caucasians are arrogant violent b@5tards that should all be tossed out of the country. We can deal with that. But there are groups here (like the Bangladeshi workers) who have a harder time of it when race-focused headlines come out because they are already treated like an underclass. Stuff like this just makes it harder for them.... And I am still waiting for someone to get past the silly political correctness argument to actual explain the RELEVANCE of the people's skin colour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TechnikaIII Posted December 11, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) Why does this article emphasize "Black men"? Would it not suffice to say Brazilian males? Does the use of the colour of skin add emphasis to the horrors of this tale? You would not protest if the article said "3 white men", "3 Middle Eastern men", "3 Japanese ... 3 whatever... ", so why should the three black men qualify for exemption? Besides, it helps short the list of suspects by a few million. Call a spade a spade. Who knows, maybe the news may get out to others who has been similarly abused by three black men, which could prompt them to come forward and eventually lead to capture of the felons. By the way, the phrase "Call a spade a spade" was introduced to English in 1542, predating the use of "spade" as a slur by some four centuries. Research it. I will not be strangled by so called 'political correctness' here or anywhere. Edited December 11, 2012 by TechnikaIII 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docno Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Why does this article emphasize "Black men"? Would it not suffice to say Brazilian males? Does the use of the colour of skin add emphasis to the horrors of this tale? You would not protest if the article said "3 white men", "3 Middle Eastern men", "3 Japanese ... 3 whatever... ", so why should the three black men qualify for exemption? Besides, it helps short the list of suspects by a few million. Call a spade a spade. Who knows, maybe the news may get out to another individual who has been similarly abused by three black men, which could prompt them to come forward and eventually lead to capture of the felons. I would... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nisa Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Why does this article emphasize "Black men"? Would it not suffice to say Brazilian males? Does the use of the colour of skin add emphasis to the horrors of this tale? Yep, the skin colour is completely irrelevant to the story... it must have made it seem more scary to the writer/editor. Yes but it seems to be the new normal when it comes to the Main Stream Media. Look at the Treyvon Martin case in the US; evil white man shoots and kills little black boy. As the facts came out things started to change drastically. If the MSM is trying to create animosity between races (for what ever reason) it seems to be working. While there is clearly question if a description of the accused needed to be mentioned in this story, your example makes absolutely no sense since the entire incident you are trying to compare this to is a highly charged topic in large part because so many people feel the victim would not have been killed if he was not black and no facts have come out to drastically change this perception and why the accused was arrested much later after a full investigation and he is still be prosecuted. I don't think such posts do much to show you as not biased (to put it nicely) on the subject of race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docno Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 She is a common prostitute and took the easy way out in life. This is not news. Back home she takes foreigners for all the money she can. What is your point beyond wanting to announce to everyone here you dislike and have serious issues with women? And Thai women in particular, no doubt. Seems to be suggesting that all Thai women are real or potential prostitutes... that the only reason a Thai woman might be tempted to go abroad is to make money by selling her body. I don't understand how people with such attitudes end up in Thailand in the first place. No, wait a minute.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirchai Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) "The next day, Ms. B got a call from Ms. C, who said she was already back in Thailand. Then several black men were knocking on Ms. B’s door. They entered the room when she opened the door. The men then threatened Ms. B, and ordered her to transport drugs back to Thailand by hiding cocaine in her underwear and in her vagina." Not really Anusing----... Edited December 11, 2012 by sirchai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nisa Posted December 11, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2012 If we are going to be politically correct then the story should also not mention it took place in Brazil and it should not mention the victims were Thai or female or that the accused were males. Probably also not a good idea to mention the victim had a job since this could somehow be seen as indicating she was a good citizen and this would suggest an unemployed person is not. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyWanderer Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 R Why does this article emphasize "Black men"? Would it not suffice to say Brazilian males? Does the use of the colour of skin add emphasis to the horrors of this tale? You would not protest if the article said "3 white men", "3 Middle Eastern men", "3 Japanese ... 3 whatever... ", so why should the three black men qualify for exemption? Besides, it helps short the list of suspects by a few million. Call a spade a spade. Who knows, maybe the news may get out to another individual who has been similarly abused by three black men, which could prompt them to come forward and eventually lead to capture of the felons. I would... Ridiculous petty pathetic you would/are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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