At Least 27 Dead In Connecticut School Shooting - Cbs News

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AT LEAST 27 DEAD IN CONNECTICUT SCHOOL SHOOTING - CBS NEWS

2012-12-15 00:41:08 GMT+7 (ICT

NEWTOWN, CONNECTICUT (BNO NEWS) -- At least 27 people, including children, are believed to have been killed in a shooting at a Newtown, Connecticut, elementary school, CBS News reports.

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-- 2012-12-15

Reports: Gunman kills 29, injures 3 at Connecticut elementary school

2012-12-15 02:46:27 GMT+7 (ICT)

NEWTOWN, CONNECTICUT (BNO NEWS) -- As many as 29 people, including nearly two dozen children, are believed to have been killed after a gunman opened fire Friday at an elementary school in western Connecticut, local media quoted sources as saying. The shooter was also found dead.

The incident happened at around 9:30 a.m. local time when a gunman opened fire at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, a town about 7 miles (11 kilometers) east of Danbury. State police confirmed there was a shooting involving multiple fatalities, but no figures were released.

The entire school was searched, that was accomplished," Connecticut State Police spokesman Lt. J. Paul Vance said at a news conference. ;A staging area was set up. Students and staff were put into that staging area, and soon thereafter the children and staffers were reunited with their parents and their loved ones.

Vance said several people were killed, including students and staff members, but he declined to provide specific figures.There is no information relative to that (the number of victims) that is being released at this time until we made complete and proper notifications," he said.

Hearst Connecticut Newspapers, citing a source with knowledge of the investigation, reported that at least 29 people, including 22 children, were found dead at the scene. The figure could not be independently verified by BNO News. CBS News earlier said at least 27 people were killed, including the gunman and eight adults.

State police confirmed the gunman was found dead inside the school building and said the scene was secure. A federal law enforcement source identified the gunman as 24-year-old Ryan Lanza, whose mother was a teacher at the school and who was also among those killed. The suspect's father was said to have been found dead at their residence in New Jersey.

In addition to those killed, officials confirmed three patients were transported to Danbury Hospital, although their conditions were not immediately known. Out of abundance of caution and not because of any direct threat Danbury Hospital is under lockdown," New Milford Hospital said in a statement. This allows us simply to focus on the important work at hand.BNO News All rights reserved

-- 2012-12-15

[GentlemanJim]

An utter tragedy is about to unfold!!! How unbelievable and to happen but 10 days from Christmas. The families will be devastated. Now about that other thread about guns, and the 2nd amendment!! An elementary school for Gods sake.

At the moment 18 elementary school children are amongst the dead!! The gunman was aged 20, he is also dead, Police appear to be holding someone else. God help all the parents and families.

I feel sick to the very core.

Edited December 14, 2012 by GentlemanJim

[Basil B]

Seems the 2nd amendment is more important than school children...

[GiHadOrange]

Seems the 2nd amendment is more important than school children...

freedom comes with risk.

and i am pretty sure that those who wants that freedom and the right do not insist on that right because it is their plan to kill children.

its against the law to kill children. did it stop the culprit? so would anti gun laws stop any other mad killer?

[Jingthing]

The first few minutes of Fox News coverage mentioned: this isn't about guns. Funny. Guns were used. It's OK for them to bring up the gun control issue moments after one of the worse cases of gun violence in American history, as long as the comment is AGAINST gun control. Later they suggested that now every American school should have a full time guard, armed with ... GUNS. Amazing.

Edited December 14, 2012 by Jingthing

[Kipperthai]

An utter tragedy is about to unfold!!! How unbelievable and to happen but 10 days from Christmas. The families will be devastated. Now about that other thread about guns, and the 2nd amendment!! An elementary school for Gods sake.

I'd guess <deleted> all, if it was at Easter,thanksgiving or the shooting of JFK the same could be said...Gun law pftt,here mate have an assualt rifle or 3 ...The local school is 3 miles east ,just buzz & you're in ,lock n load ,fire..BTW ye dads house is on the way ,pop him off first & ye mums in the school with all them other innocent children ,do ye worst kiddo.

Edited December 15, 2012 by Scott

[7by7]

its against the law to kill children. did it stop the culprit? so would anti gun laws stop any other mad killer?

If the USA had proper gun control laws then there is a very good chance that this killer would not have had a gun in the first place.

[NeverSure]

Seems the 2nd amendment is more important than school children...

If the USA had proper gun control laws then there is a very good chance that this killer would not have had a gun in the first place.

Would this including the 12 dead and 11 others wounded by a gunman in the Cumbria shootings in Britain two years ago?

Or would it include the 16 killed and the 15 injured in the Hungerford mass murders by a gunman in Britain where a gunman with two semi-automatic rifles and a handgun cut loose?

No? Then perhaps it was the Port Arthur massacre in Australia - In 1996, armed with two semi-automatic rifles, Martin Bryant killed 35 people around Port Arthur and wounded 21?

Ah, Australia essentially outlawed such guns after that, but then there was the Childers Palace Fire - In June 2000, Robert Long started a fire at the Childers Palace backpackers hostel that killed 15 people.

So people really don't obey laws if they are really killers, do they? They don't even need guns, do they?

Maybe it was the Finnish gunmen, 22-year-old Matti Juhani Saari, who opened fire with a semi-automatic pistol on fellow students killing 10 in 2008?

No? Then was it the July 2005 London bombings where 52 were killed and 700 more injured?

Killers will kill and all we can do is mourn after the fact. Sad.

Prayers up for the friends, parents a relatives of the victims. It is a terrible thing.

Edited December 14, 2012 by NeverSure

[theblether]

One of the worst days of my life was Dunblane.

It ripped the soul out of Scotland, we could not believe it. Dunblane, a little sleepy town 25 miles from my home.

Do us all a favour and stop fighting like cats and dogs about gun control, these kids are still warm, Have some respect.

[GiHadOrange]

its against the law to kill children. did it stop the culprit? so would anti gun laws stop any other mad killer?

If the USA had proper gun control laws then there is a very good chance that this killer would not have had a gun in the first place.

i doubt that. there are multiple other reasons that made these people mad. you cannot solve that with gun control laws.

[Jayman]

Looks like they just found the body of the shooter's father dead at home. So he killed his dad, then went to the school and killed his mom as well as a bunch of innocents and then killed himself.

[Jingthing]

One of the worst days of my life was Dunblane.

It ripped the soul out of Scotland, we could not believe it. Dunblane, a little sleepy town 25 miles from my home.

Do us all a favour and stop fighting like cats and dogs about gun control, these kids are still warm, Have some respect.

Tell that to President Obama who CLEARLY indicated gun control is now on the table in the wake of this tragedy. I think you don't understand American culture. For the gun fanatics, there is ALWAYS an excuse not to promote gun control. Gun fanatics are happy to talk about how this has nothing to do with gun freedom though, at ANY time, including right now, Why should they have the monopoly?

“We’re going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics,” he said.

OK, maybe that isn't that clear to non-Americans who don't understand American political CODE. He's talking gun control in his FIRST reaction to this event, you can take that to the bank. It was in the context of the total power of the NRA actually a very BRAVE statement. Edited December 14, 2012 by Jingthing

[theblether]

One of the worst days of my life was Dunblane.

It ripped the soul out of Scotland, we could not believe it. Dunblane, a little sleepy town 25 miles from my home.

Do us all a favour and stop fighting like cats and dogs about gun control, these kids are still warm, Have some respect.

Tell that to President Obama who CLEARLY indicated gun control is now on the table in the wake of this tragedy. I think you don't understand American culture. For the gun fanatics, there is ALWAYS an excuse not to promote gun control. Gun fanatics are happy to talk about how this has nothing to do with gun freedom though, at ANY time, including right now, Why should they have the monopoly?

I understand American culture very well, there's one division that believe with getting on with their lives, and another division that believe a new rule can be made up for every eventuality.

It was the first division that made America, it will be the second division that destroys it.

[GiHadOrange]

One of the worst days of my life was Dunblane.

It ripped the soul out of Scotland, we could not believe it. Dunblane, a little sleepy town 25 miles from my home.

Do us all a favour and stop fighting like cats and dogs about gun control, these kids are still warm, Have some respect.

Tell that to President Obama who CLEARLY indicated gun control is now on the table in the wake of this tragedy. I think you don't understand American culture. For the gun fanatics, there is ALWAYS an excuse not to promote gun control. Gun fanatics are happy to talk about how this has nothing to do with gun freedom though, at ANY time, including right now, Why should they have the monopoly?

ever considered that even the beloved leader Obama can do wrong.

If you think "gun fanatics" doing it wrong why choose them as example to follow.

theblether is right. don't use this tragedy for your arguments.

[Jingthing]

One of the worst days of my life was Dunblane.

It ripped the soul out of Scotland, we could not believe it. Dunblane, a little sleepy town 25 miles from my home.

Do us all a favour and stop fighting like cats and dogs about gun control, these kids are still warm, Have some respect.

Tell that to President Obama who CLEARLY indicated gun control is now on the table in the wake of this tragedy. I think you don't understand American culture. For the gun fanatics, there is ALWAYS an excuse not to promote gun control. Gun fanatics are happy to talk about how this has nothing to do with gun freedom though, at ANY time, including right now, Why should they have the monopoly?

ever considered that even the beloved leader Obama can do wrong.

If you think "gun fanatics" doing it wrong why choose them as example to follow.

theblether is right. don't use this tragedy for your arguments.

Of course Obama can do wrong. But under Obama there have been a lot of these gun massacres. This one is a game changer. It was little children. Action WILL be taken and it WILL involve at least some more gun control. It is naive to suggest gun control politics, pro and con, won't be massively activated by this tragedy.

[endure]

The topic is a tragic school shooting in Connecticut. Stick to it.

[GiHadOrange]

Of course Obama can do wrong. But under Obama there have been a lot of these gun massacres. This one is a game changer. It was little children. Action WILL be taken and it WILL involve at least some more gun control. It is naive to suggest gun control politics, pro and con, won't be massively activated by this tragedy.

Yes, that might be true. a sad and pathetic discussion will follow. but that will have nothing to do with showing respect for the victims.

[Jingthing]

Post withdrawn. Please don't quote old post. PM instead.

Edited December 14, 2012 by Jingthing

[endure]

You will not veer off into US politics. Is that clear?

[Jingthing]

Of course Obama can do wrong. But under Obama there have been a lot of these gun massacres. This one is a game changer. It was little children. Action WILL be taken and it WILL involve at least some more gun control. It is naive to suggest gun control politics, pro and con, won't be massively activated by this tragedy.

Yes, that might be true. a sad and pathetic discussion will follow. but that will have nothing to do with showing respect for the victims.

I'd like to make one thing perfectly clear. Gun advocates do not have a monopoly on showing respect for gun death victims. Many of us feel the most logical time to talk about gun control is in the wake of these kinds of tragedies. Not coincidentally, such times are also the times when gun advocates are most vocal in trying to SILENCE this issue.

http://www.washingto...planned&hpid=z2

Gun violence protest outside White House planned

“Tell Jay Carney today IS the day to talk about gun violence,” an organizer wrote in an email announcing the event. “We demand a plan to stop the slaughter of our children.”

The school shooting in Connecticut is likely to reignite the debate surrounding the purchase of firearms in the United States.

http://www.huffingto...2&utm_hp_ref=uk

As far as the news of the event, interesting that the shooter's brother is being held (why?) and also some doubt on whether his father is actually dead.

Edited December 14, 2012 by Jingthing

[theblether]

The social media in the UK is already in shock about what has happened, through the course of this day and tomorrow it will sink in, and it will be a devastating blow to many here in the UK. That's not an overstatement.

I can clearly remember people being tearful, seriously depressed and shattered by the Dunblane tragedy, this murder of children, on this scale, will bring back terrible memories to our collective conscience.

All we can do is pass on our condolences to the friends and family that have suffered today, and also pass on our condolences to the strangers that never knew these kids, or adults, that have been ripped away today.

Tragedies like this hit societies hard, we may live life as individuals, but most of us take pride in being part of a group, part of our society. I always liked the line " it takes a village to bring up a child ", today the World village will mourn with America.

You will see proof of that over the next few days.

[Jingthing]

We have so many of these massacres these days in the U.S. that the public displays of mourning have become ritualistic and ultimately empty and superficial (and lots and lots of old time religion preachers). The real mourners are as they should be, the close ones to the victims. This event IS different because of the little children but I reckon the rote public media ritual will basically be the same. I do predict a stronger social REACTION to this particular event than the others inspired by the child victims. Not necessarily a positive change, but something will change. For example a negative change would be if American elementary schools get turned into armed camps with barbed wire fences. That's a possibility, sadly.

Edited December 14, 2012 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

The rationale for talking about gun control now. Because otherwise it is NEVER talked about anymore in America. So now or never.

And, yes, we will argue again about guns, or, rather, about why our politicians are hardly even arguing about guns any more. There are those who will object, who will say gun policy has nothing to do with any single event, that tragedies should not be exploited for political purpose. We know many of our readers are among this group.

And then there will be others, ourselves included, who will say, whatever the facts of this case, that the country would be safer with fewer guns, that mass killings are more difficult with knives, that it is not the Second Amendment but political cowardice that precludes sensible regulation. That we are not supposed to exploit tragedy to talk about this issue, but that in the absence of tragedy it never gets talked about at all.

http://www.washingto...7532_story.html Edited December 14, 2012 by Jingthing

[jpinx]

Words can not express the grief these families are going through. All who have a scrap of humanity will be deeply shocked by not only by the tragic loss of innocent lives but also by the desperation of the disturbed mind of the perpetrator, who obviously was a lost soul with easy access to revenge for his perceived mistreatment by the family and society he lived in. RIP to all.

[webfact]

Mentally disabled gunman, 20, killed teacher mom at home before driving to elementary school in her car and shooting TWENTY SIX dead including 20 children

• The shooter, Adam Lanza, 20, is confirmed dead and body still inside the school
  
• Brother Ryan, 24, is in custody and being questioned
  
• One teacher said masked gunman started firing out shots from principal's office and then his mom Nancy's kindergarten classroom shortly after 9.30am
  
• Mom was killed at home in Newtown, which was once voted one of America's safest places to live
  
• One student said there were bullets whizzing by him in the hallway
  
• At least 100 rounds are believed to have been fired
  
• Female principal and school psychologist believed to have been targeted
  
• Moved to tears, President Obama says 'our hearts are broken today'
  
• Flags on Capitol Hill to be flown at half mast
  

By RACHEL QUIGLEY

A mentally disabled gunman killed his teacher mother at her home in Connecticut before driving her car to the elementary school she works in and shooting dead 26 people, including 20 children, before turning the gun on himself.

Adam Lanza, 20, was carrying a .223 rifle and two handguns when he entered the Sandy Hook Elementary school shortly after 9.30am and started gunning people down.

Witnesses say he was going from room-to-room shooting people after first killing the principal and then going to his mother Nancy's kindergarten class.

His brother Ryan, 24, who was originally thought to have been the shooter, is being questioned by police after he was arrested at his home in Hoboken, New Jersey.

He was on a bus on his way home from work when he was being named as the gunman and posted on Facebook that it wasn't him. He told a friend he believed his mentally disabled brother did it.

Full story: http://www.dailymail...cut-school.html

-- Mail Online 2012-12-15

[Jingthing]

Words can not express the grief these families are going through. All who have a scrap of humanity will be deeply shocked by not only by the tragic loss of innocent lives but also by the desperation of the disturbed mind of the perpetrator, who obviously was a lost soul with easy access to revenge for his perceived mistreatment by the family and society he lived in. RIP to all.

Honestly, yes the fact that the victims were so young is especially horrible, but I do not think most Americans are shocked by yet another mass shooting murder spree. How can they be? They have become predictable. In my view, shock implies surprise. There is no surprise anymore. It's more like, when, where, how many dead ... THIS TIME. The way things have become, a real surprise would be to go for many years WITHOUT another event like this as believe me, nobody expects that. Edited December 14, 2012 by Jingthing

[webfact]

America's second worst school shooting: Massacre at Connecticut elementary claimed twice as many lives as Columbine

By PETER RUGG

The tragic massacre in Newtown, Connecticut, that left at least 27 dead in the second worst attack in U.S. history caps off a particularly bloody year in which every month seemed to bring news of a fresh shootings.

At least 27 were shot dead on Friday morning at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newton, Connecticut, including 22 children - by a gunman stalking the classrooms with a .223-caliber rifle.

The massacre is the worst in U.S. history for a school and only comes second to University student Seung-Hui Cho's rampage at Virginia Tech in 2007 which left 32 people dead.

Full story: http://www.dailymail...-Columbine.html

-- Mail Online 2012-12-15

[Mosha]

How was a mentally disabled man, able to acquire a gun of which one type was illegal to own in that state?

[GentlemanJim]

An utter tragedy is about to unfold!!! How unbelievable and to happen but 10 days from Christmas. The families will be devastated. Now about that other thread about guns, and the 2nd amendment!! An elementary school for Gods sake.

*Deleted post edited out*

Back to thread. The enormity of this unfolds. Obama press conference.

https://www.youtube....h?v=wlLU8VvSWAM

http://news.sky.com/...school-shooting

sorry I dont seem to be able to get the link live.

Prayers with the victims and families.

Edited December 15, 2012 by Rimmer

[F430murci]

Guns kill. Need to get them off the street. I cannot imagine pain so many families are enduring tonight. Those children that survived just lost their innocence.