Holysteel Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 What is the penalty for driving with an expired road tax ? I am planning to drive to Krabi & expect lots of BIB roadblock along the way. I was hoping i will get away with just a fine. I already have extended the car insurance. Should i need to keep a copy of the extended insurance to show to the BIBs? Or they do not bother checking the insurance ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 What is the penalty for driving with an expired road tax ? I am planning to drive to Krabi & expect lots of BIB roadblock along the way. I was hoping i will get away with just a fine. I already have extended the car insurance. Should i need to keep a copy of the extended insurance to show to the BIBs? Or they do not bother checking the insurance ? How did you extend the car insurance without the tax? At the check points they tend to look for tax. Good luck sent from my Q6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushit Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 (edited) No tax, your insurance will not be valid. Don't hit anything or any compensation will be out of your own pocket. Edited December 30, 2012 by Pushit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancealot Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 If i remember correctly Tax is a big sticker on the windshield.. The BiB will notice this.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Hmm, advice on how to break the law. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holysteel Posted December 30, 2012 Author Share Posted December 30, 2012 Its strange.. I gave the thai family member some baht & they told me they extended the insurance... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 No tax, your insurance will not be valid. Don't hit anything or any compensation will be out of your own pocket. This is way, way to general stated. The compulsory 3rd party insurance may not be valid, I don't know since I have never read the conditions, but any specific car insurance, whether it be 3rd party or 1st/second class, will normally be valid, unless excluded in the policy conditions. Don't know about the insurance of the OP, but my insurance would be valid since there is no such exclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon210 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Its strange.. I gave the thai family member some baht & they told me they extended the insurance... And did they show you evidence of this? Sent from my GT-N7000 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaninlamphun Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 What is the penalty for driving with an expired road tax ? I am planning to drive to Krabi & expect lots of BIB roadblock along the way. I was hoping i will get away with just a fine. I already have extended the car insurance. Should i need to keep a copy of the extended insurance to show to the BIBs? Or they do not bother checking the insurance ? Our car has always been taxed & insured at the same time,didnt know you could do it any other way,the tax is way cheaper than the insurance anyway,why not pay the tax? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedghog Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I have been caught for this. About three years ago the fine was 500,with a ticket. Therefore giving me something to show any further police stops. Renewed tax on return to home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggold Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I would guess your insurance is not valid without the road tax paid just like in the UK! Sent from my GT-P6200 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteeleJoe Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Its strange.. I gave the thai family member some baht & they told me they extended the insurance... Hmmm... Sent from my iPad using ThaiVisa ap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loong Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Is this your pickup or are you borrowing it? I've known some Thais to drive for years without renewing the road tax (usually motorbikes). If this is the case, I believe that you will have to pay for the unpaid years to get a current one. If you have paid for insurance, you should have the receipt and the policy in the car with you when you drive. Not a good idea to drive without insurance and until you see proof that you are covered, I would advise that you postpone your trip until you are definitely legal and covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I would guess your insurance is not valid without the road tax paid just like in the UK! Sent from my GT-P6200 using Thaivisa Connect App And that's what it is, a guess. See post #7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Is this your pickup or are you borrowing it?I've known some Thais to drive for years without renewing the road tax (usually motorbikes). If this is the case, I believe that you will have to pay for the unpaid years to get a current one. If you have paid for insurance, you should have the receipt and the policy in the car with you when you drive. Not a good idea to drive without insurance and until you see proof that you are covered, I would advise that you postpone your trip until you are definitely legal and covered. Also don't forget to carry your Thai driving license (or international permit and country license) sent from my Q6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeW Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 (edited) I got caught once driving the in-laws' car on the way back to BKK (they failed to tell me the tax was expired). I paid 500 THB fine, got a receipt and had to pay tax within 2 weeks of the ticket. Edited December 30, 2012 by JoeW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Its strange.. I gave the thai family member some baht & they told me they extended the insurance... Please tell me you don't believe everything you're told. 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILLIGAD Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 (edited) I am condoning wrongdoing but some time ago had done over 25k in a year without RoadTax. Stopped many times during that period too (It was suggested fine in these parts was only 200b). Sold the vehicle in that same situation and the new driver was told that back payment will be needed when he renews the expired tax. Always kept up the 1st class insurance though! Edited January 1, 2013 by DILLIGAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalbanana Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Its strange.. I gave the thai family member some baht & they told me they extended the insurance... This could be true. But you have to take a copy of the insurance to the road tax office and pay the tax before that expires. Like others said, you'll be fined by BIB if stopped and insurance not covered until tax is valid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Its strange.. I gave the thai family member some baht & they told me they extended the insurance... This could be true. But you have to take a copy of the insurance to the road tax office and pay the tax before that expires. Like others said, you'll be fined by BIB if stopped and insurance not covered until tax is valid? This is at least the 3rd time that somebody here claims 'insurance not covered if road tax not paid/valid'. Please show some proof of this before making those claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankold Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 I changed addresses and as such never managed or bothered to put the new tax sticker on. Although there was a valid one for my car sat in a desk somewhere. In 2yrs and 30'000km I think it was noticed by the police 3x. Usually 2-300 'fine'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalbanana Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Its strange.. I gave the thai family member some baht & they told me they extended the insurance... This could be true. But you have to take a copy of the insurance to the road tax office and pay the tax before that expires. Like others said, you'll be fined by BIB if stopped and insurance not covered until tax is valid? This is at least the 3rd time that somebody here claims 'insurance not covered if road tax not paid/valid'. Please show some proof of this before making those claims. I would suggest you show me some proof of it not being required? I would find it difficult to believe an insurance company would cover for an incident on a public road involving an illegal activity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Its strange.. I gave the thai family member some baht & they told me they extended the insurance... This could be true. But you have to take a copy of the insurance to the road tax office and pay the tax before that expires. Like others said, you'll be fined by BIB if stopped and insurance not covered until tax is valid? This is at least the 3rd time that somebody here claims 'insurance not covered if road tax not paid/valid'. Please show some proof of this before making those claims. I would suggest you show me some proof of it not being required? I would find it difficult to believe an insurance company would cover for an incident on a public road involving an illegal activity? My policy (Tanachart) does not state road tax as a requirement for coverage, how about yours? Should be easy to check, please let us know including the company name. Regarding illegal activities, insurance covers for those all the time, or do you think a policy is invalid if somebody does not signal for a turn, does not have lights, etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 If a legitimate insurance company sells you a policy, it will pay off per the policy. What difference does it make that your tags are current? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalbanana Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 My policy (Tanachart) does not state road tax as a requirement for coverage, how about yours? Should be easy to check, please let us know including the company name. Regarding illegal activities, insurance covers for those all the time, or do you think a policy is invalid if somebody does not signal for a turn, does not have lights, etc.? By illegal I was thinking more in terms of driving without road tax (the o/p subject), driving without a driving license or driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol. Good luck getting Tanachart to agree to any of that? My insurance is from Bangkok Insurance but as I am 3000km from the car and copy of the insurance this month it isn't as easy to check just now as you thought. I am willing to be surprised and proved wrong on my thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naboo Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Insurance invalid if no tax? Nonsense! In the UK a friend of mine smashed his car into railings when drunk, ran from the scene and the insurance company paid out. He was asked if he had been convicted of an offence, and as he was awaiting trial he stated 'no' and he got his cash. There is no way road tax is a condition of insurance. As for the OP getting insurance before tax, that is how it works. I get the compulsory with my additional cover, certificate arrives in the post, I go and pay the tax. I previously had only compulsory and bought it from a woman from an insurance agent in the tax office. Next year they had a different company in there, but you can buy it from any broker or insurance company. Shop around and you might save 20 baht! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 My policy (Tanachart) does not state road tax as a requirement for coverage, how about yours? Should be easy to check, please let us know including the company name. Regarding illegal activities, insurance covers for those all the time, or do you think a policy is invalid if somebody does not signal for a turn, does not have lights, etc.? By illegal I was thinking more in terms of driving without road tax (the o/p subject), driving without a driving license or driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol. Good luck getting Tanachart to agree to any of that? My insurance is from Bangkok Insurance but as I am 3000km from the car and copy of the insurance this month it isn't as easy to check just now as you thought. I am willing to be surprised and proved wrong on my thinking. And you will be proved wrong. So you're comparing driving without road tax to driving under the influence? Wrong comparison, it is a minor offense, just like forgetting to signal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shurup Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Tax doesn't have to be paid at the same time as insurance. If your insurance expire and the tax is about to expire, you can still go and renew the insurance and then let the tax expire. Sent from my GT-I9100 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shurup Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Having insurance with no tax will not invalidate the other one. Sent from my GT-I9100 using Thaivisa Connect App 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalbanana Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 ..smashed his car into railings when drunk, ran from the scene and the insurance company paid out. . LOL. I'm sure all the Thai insurance companies will pay out for that! This sounds seriously fubar IMHO.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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