Drunk Driving In Pattaya ..... Fined In France

[yankee99]

Is it possible? An acquaintance of mine was arrested in pattaya over new years and had to pay a fine in jomtien court.

He claims that when he returned to france they arrested him at the airport (for his crime in thailand). He said it cost 150,000 baht to be released and keep his french license. Maybe i am paranoid but this just seems like a huge story...

[MGLinearArt]

300,000, 3,000,000 is not enough, sorry, but don't drink and drive, the cost of a life can't be measured in ££££'s

[noob7]

Yeah, sure, about 3850 Euro payment in France for drunk driving in Thailand.

As you said, a story, I would say.

[Rancid]

Don't doubt a Nanny State like France wouldn't try it on if they could, but that level of cooperation with Thai authorities, I somewhat doubt it.

[Semper]

He claims that when he returned to france they arrested him at the airport

Maybe he was drunk during the flight?

[MGLinearArt]

He claims that when he returned to france they arrested him at the airport

Maybe he was drunk during the flight?

Gerard Depardieu style

[Scully]

He claims that when he returned to france they arrested him at the airport

Maybe he was drunk during the flight?

And he was the pilot

[yankee99]

He claims that when he returned to france they arrested him at the airport

Maybe he was drunk during the flight?

That crossed my mind immediately. He claims it is directly from his thai crime. I am not french so not familiar with france but it just sounds fishy.

[MrRealDeal]

I don't really know if it's possible under French law but it's certianly possible and not completely extraordinary that you can be charged with a crime in one country and then charged again in your home country for the same offence under a slightly different law.

For example you can be charged with child molestation in Thailand and then when you are released and sent back to America be charged with the crime of going to Thailand for the purpose of molesting children which is not considered being tried for the same crime 2 times because they are different offences.

So it's certianly possible but seems a little unlikely to me.

Maybe he was charged with being an embarrasment to France because of the DUI, would be the kind of thing I am talking about. Some new type of offence based on the proir one ..... like causing a disturbance overseas for example

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[MGLinearArt]

I don't really know if it's possible under French law but it's certianly possible and not completely extraordinary that you can be charged with a crime in one country and then charged again in your home country for the same offence under a slightly different law.

For example you can be charged with child molestation in Thailand and then when you are released and sent back to America be charged with the crime of going to Thailand for the purpose of molesting children which is not considered being tried for the same crime 2 times because they are different offences.

So it's certianly possible but seems a little unlikely to me.

Maybe he was charged with being an embarrasment to France because of the DUI, would be the kind of thing I am talking about. Some new type of offence based on the proir one ..... like causing a disturbance overseas for example

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What happened to the hooligans from the Euro footie matches where the water spray came out? Surely charged abroad then back at home too?

[noob7]

Maybe he was charged with being an embarrasment to France because of the DUI, would be the kind of thing I am talking about. Some new type of offence based on the proir one ..... like causing a disturbance overseas for example

So what are they going to do with the impedent Napoleon, then? Livetime on Saint Helena?

[jamescollister]

Don't know about drink driving, but believe the French law is that anyone committing a crime out side of France, that is against French law falls under the jurisdiction of the French courts. The idea was that a French person could not be tried in a foreign land, they would be tried under French law.

Some other countries have similar laws, meaning you can be done twice. Jim

[noob7]

Don't know about drink driving, but believe the French law is that anyone committing a crime out side of France, that is against French law falls under the jurisdiction of the French courts. The idea was that a French person could not be tried in a foreign land, they would be tried under French law.

Some other countries have similar laws, meaning you can be done twice. Jim

But they do not charge almost 4000 Euros for drunk driving, at the Airport, without a court case!

France is not BiB territory!

[jamescollister]

Don't know about drink driving, but believe the French law is that anyone committing a crime out side of France, that is against French law falls under the jurisdiction of the French courts. The idea was that a French person could not be tried in a foreign land, they would be tried under French law.

Some other countries have similar laws, meaning you can be done twice. Jim

But they do not charge almost 4000 Euros for drunk driving, at the Airport, without a court case!

France is not BiB territory!

Very true, you would have to go to a French court and don't think think drink driving is a criminal offense, but comes under traffic laws. Jim.

[Fgis]

Who is stupid enough to believe this ?

Oh, guys, I really understand why so many people are scammed so easily... I guess you even believe in god, right ?

How can somebody tell so much BS and how can anyone believe it ?

[Satcommlee]

Did this guy owe you money or ask to borrow some by any chance?

[Rob8891]

Did this guy owe you money or ask to borrow some by any chance?

A sob-story to send money FROM Thailand TO Europe....The "reverse sick buffalo scam" perhaps....(le grenouille malade)??????..............

Oh fie! How could I be so cynical?? I really should feel ashamed....

[MrRealDeal]

Don't know about drink driving, but believe the French law is that anyone committing a crime out side of France, that is against French law falls under the jurisdiction of the French courts. The idea was that a French person could not be tried in a foreign land, they would be tried under French law.

Some other countries have similar laws, meaning you can be done twice. Jim

But they do not charge almost 4000 Euros for drunk driving, at the Airport, without a court case!

France is not BiB territory!

Very true, you would have to go to a French court and don't think think drink driving is a criminal offense, but comes under traffic laws. Jim.

Not sure what your defenition of criminal offence is but in the US a 3rd or 4th DIU is a Felony and you would lose your right to own a gun , Vote and all the other things any other criminal felon would lose.

It's hard to call something a Felony which by defenition is a serious crime and not call it a criminal offence ..... Just because the offence is in Traffic Court desn't mean it's not a criminal offence.

[I Like Thai]

He claims that when he returned to france they arrested him at the airport

Maybe he was drunk during the flight?

Gerard Depardieu style

He's Russian, not French

[loong]

He claims that when he returned to france they arrested him at the airport

Maybe he was drunk during the flight?

Gerard Depardieu style

He's Russian, not French

He may have been given Russian citizenship, but does that make him Russian?

[scotto]

Is it april the 1st already?

[jamescollister]

Don't know about drink driving, but believe the French law is that anyone committing a crime out side of France, that is against French law falls under the jurisdiction of the French courts. The idea was that a French person could not be tried in a foreign land, they would be tried under French law.

Some other countries have similar laws, meaning you can be done twice. Jim

But they do not charge almost 4000 Euros for drunk driving, at the Airport, without a court case!

France is not BiB territory!

Very true, you would have to go to a French court and don't think think drink driving is a criminal offense, but comes under traffic laws. Jim.

Not sure what your defenition of criminal offence is but in the US a 3rd or 4th DIU is a Felony and you would lose your right to own a gun , Vote and all the other things any other criminal felon would lose.

It's hard to call something a Felony which by defenition is a serious crime and not call it a criminal offence ..... Just because the offence is in Traffic Court desn't mean it's not a criminal offence.

Different countries different laws, so drink driving laws may fall under traffic regulations, speeding etc. Some places make separate laws for drink driving which make it criminal. Think in France, leaving the scene of an accident can fall under criminal law [ failing to render assistance,] up to 10 years jail. Each country to it's own, be thankful most western countries don't have Nigerian law. If you are sentanced to jail time in another country, upon your return you can do the same time in jail there. Jim

[noob7]

Is it april the 1st already?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20921208

[I Like Thai]

Gerard Depardieu style

He's Russian, not French

He may have been given Russian citizenship, but does that make him Russian?

He renounced his French citizenship and accepted Russian citizenship, so I guess it does in a legal sense.

[cdnvic]

Please stay on topic, which is not Gerard Depardieu.

[noob7]

Please stay on topic, which is not Gerard Depardieu.

But he's best prepared, for this topic. Anyone knows, he likes Thailand, Pattaya,...?

"Embroiled in a tax row that saw the Frenchman take Russian nationality and angrily vow to leave his native country, the 64-year-old star has already admitted driving his scooter in Paris while inebriated last month."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9787023/Gerard-Depardieu-fails-to-show-up-to-face-drunk-driving-charges.html

(no offense, and only a coincidence, but isn't it great?

[ThaidDown]

Purely from a time-line angle this does not seem possible.

OP says his friend was arrested over new year, so assume he appeared in court on 2nd Jan and case was dealt with on that day. Friend then departed for France , the op was posted 7 Jan, so assume he arrived in France same day 7 Jan.

So in 5 days the fact that the friend had been convicted in Thailand was made available to the French authorities (how ??) and placed on the immigration computers in France.

To me this seems extremely unlikely. Is it possible that there were outstanding traffic and/or parking cases outstanding before the friend left for Pattaya and fines were levied in his absence?

Not doubting what the op was told but, to me, just does not add up.