webfact Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Red Shirt activists sue former PM Abhisit By English News BANGKOK, Jan 11 – A lawyer representing the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) led two Red Shirt activists to file petitions at the Department of Special Investigation (DSI) accusing former prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and his deputy Suthep Thaugsuban of attempted murder. UDD lawyer Karom Phonpornklang led UDD members Prompong Plangklang and Chamnan Tohchaeng, both 45 and Nakhon Ratchasima natives, to DSI headquarters. In their complaint, Mr Prompong and Mr Chamnan said they were wounded by gunfire while serving as volunteer security guards for the Red Shirt demonstrators during the 2010 political unrest in Bangkok. Ninety-one persons died during the March-May politically-related violence. The two men said they were wounded on April 10 as demonstrators clashed with government security personnel at Din Sor Road near Ratchadamnoen Avenue. The complainants said they wanted legal action to be taken against those who authorised the shootings for attempted murder. They had prepared medical certificates and police reports to accompany their petitions. Mr Abhisit and Mr Suthep on appeared December 14 at the DSI to hear charges but they rejected all allegations laid against them and vowed to contest all charges against them without compromising or fleeing the country. The DSI charged them with authorising the shooting of demonstrators during the political protest and suppression by military units under the now-expired Centre for the Resolution of the Emergency Situation (CRES). Mr Suthep was then CRES director while Mr Abhisit was implicated in the murder allegations in his capacity as prime minister overseeing the emergency centre. (MCOT online news) -- TNA 2013-01-11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DaamNaam Posted January 11, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2013 What a load of old <deleted>. Thailand, where wrong is right and right is wrong. The masters at turning tables. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gl555 Posted January 11, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2013 "Volunteer security guards! cum thug cum terrorist cum arsonist cum armed rebel The scum are all coming out now. It should have been murder for these scum, instead of attempted murder. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobiwankenobi Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 It really is unbelievable! And the video below, well that's OK, no problem! That's fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post muttley Posted January 11, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2013 "Volunteer security guards! cum thug cum terrorist cum arsonist cum armed rebel The scum are all coming out now. It should have been murder for these scum, instead of attempted murder. So it's a normal situation for you that the government of the day can murder their opponents? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gl555 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 It really is unbelievable! And the video below, well that's OK, no problem! That's fine! We've all seen that before. The red apologists here will always say that 'it was taken out of context'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gl555 Posted January 11, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2013 "Volunteer security guards! cum thug cum terrorist cum arsonist cum armed rebel The scum are all coming out now. It should have been murder for these scum, instead of attempted murder. So it's a normal situation for you that the government of the day can murder their opponents? That's my personal opinion on how to deal with arsonists/armed rebels/terrorists/thugs. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rubl Posted January 11, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2013 It warms the cockles on my heart to see the spirit of reconciliation as preached by our PM so whole-heartedly embraced (and squelched to death) 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jobiwankenobi Posted January 11, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) Believe me, gl55, I know what I posted was nothing new, but it just makes me so angry, you know? And two years ago, yeah there were Red Shirt apologists on here, but I'm not so sure if there are any left? Are there? If so, then after all this time, you'd think they would have learned something. But alas, we aren't all that progressive are we? **See above vid*** Edited January 11, 2013 by Jobiwankenobi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MunterHunter Posted January 11, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2013 I look forward to the day Suthep and Abhisit counter-sue these people when the Thai courts throw out their attempted murder charges... That is what would happen in any normal country anyway 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gl555 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Believe me, gl55, I know what I posted was nothing new, but it just makes me so angry, you know? And two years ago, yeah there were Red Shirt apologists on here, but I'm not so sure if there are any left? Are there? If so, then after all this time, you'd think they would have learned something. But alas, we aren't all that progressive are we? **See above vid*** Yeah I get you. This video pisses me off too. The animals are in power now and they won't prosecute one of their own but they'll happily persecute their enemies. As for the red apologists, yeah they're still here. Just let this thread grow and they'll all start crawling out to defend their beloved brothers! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zatoichi Posted January 11, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2013 The only thing PM Abhisit did wrong was not using the military to greater effect to preserve the lives and property of law abiding Thai citizens from the red shirt terrorists. Filthy scum bags. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rubl Posted January 11, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2013 "Volunteer security guards! cum thug cum terrorist cum arsonist cum armed rebel The scum are all coming out now. It should have been murder for these scum, instead of attempted murder. So it's a normal situation for you that the government of the day can murder their opponents? Murder? Allegedly and here in this topic 'attempted murder'. So, it's a normal situation for you that a government which is being terrorized by 'peaceful, grenade lobbing protesters' just ignores the violence and let the kids play? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Baerboxer Posted January 11, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2013 "Volunteer security guards! cum thug cum terrorist cum arsonist cum armed rebel The scum are all coming out now. It should have been murder for these scum, instead of attempted murder. So it's a normal situation for you that the government of the day can murder their opponents? Stop being silly. No one in their right mind supports governments murdering their opponents, or trying to intimidate them by false prosecutions and kangaroo courts. However, governments must uphold the law and protect citizens from terrorist attack and criminal intimidation, be that from insurgents or outside forces. These guys were "security guards" to a group who were rioting, causing widespread damage, intimdating and obstructing people going about their lawful business, invading hospital, using petrol bombs etc etc. If you choose to operate outside the law, then you should expect to be treated as an outlaw. The opposite is anarchy. What will PTP suggest next - political re-education classes and gulags for those who have a different view? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post seajae Posted January 11, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2013 hahahaha, so these two were security guards(armed?) that were there to attack the soldiers but when the soldiers returned fire they decided that wasnt fair and want to sue for being hurt, this is the biggest load of sh*t so far and there are idiots in here that think they are right. Seems some people just cant think rationally especially the red shirt sympathizers, thaksin has you totally brainwashed, guess that explians the brown rings on your ankles. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thaddeus Posted January 11, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2013 As for the red apologists, yeah they're still here. Just let this thread grow and they'll all start crawling out to defend their beloved brothers! They'll be asleep at the moment, 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaamNaam Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 As for the red apologists, yeah they're still here. Just let this thread grow and they'll all start crawling out to defend their beloved brothers! They'll be asleep at the moment, Or drunk on lao kao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hellodolly Posted January 11, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2013 "Volunteer security guards! cum thug cum terrorist cum arsonist cum armed rebel The scum are all coming out now. It should have been murder for these scum, instead of attempted murder. So it's a normal situation for you that the government of the day can murder their opponents? You are obviously confused. You were not here at the time so you are relying on the statement of the underdogs. The red shirts were armed with deadly weapons they illegally seized a part of down town Bangkok and fortified it. Of course people are going to die when they put there physical self in the middle of an armed conflict. All the government did was put down an armed coup attempt. We wont get into the invasion of hospitals and rockets at public transportation depots. You are in some pretty unsavory company with them. Did it not strike you as some thing wrong when there is a rally that does not back them up and they put an armed person for every person who attended it plus blocked off access. Compare that to the rallies the red shirts have. There's was kind of barn door is open people do any thing you want we won't interfere. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Just add them to the list. How many charges of attempted murder is that now............ must be over two thousand? The courts are going to very busy, if there are any left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I feel that the Government of Thailand should sue the Red Shirt Activists for wasting perfectly breathable air. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 "Volunteer security guards! cum thug cum terrorist cum arsonist cum armed rebel The scum are all coming out now. It should have been murder for these scum, instead of attempted murder. So it's a normal situation for you that the government of the day can murder their opponents? Stop being silly. No one in their right mind supports governments murdering their opponents, or trying to intimidate them by false prosecutions and kangaroo courts. However, governments must uphold the law and protect citizens from terrorist attack and criminal intimidation, be that from insurgents or outside forces. These guys were "security guards" to a group who were rioting, causing widespread damage, intimdating and obstructing people going about their lawful business, invading hospital, using petrol bombs etc etc. If you choose to operate outside the law, then you should expect to be treated as an outlaw. The opposite is anarchy. What will PTP suggest next - political re-education classes and gulags for those who have a different view? I beg to differ, don't go far and look at Syria where the government is engage in wholesale mass killing of their own people, 60,000 people have been murdered, and counting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I wonder why they didn't press charges against all the members of CRES? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 "Volunteer security guards! cum thug cum terrorist cum arsonist cum armed rebel The scum are all coming out now. It should have been murder for these scum, instead of attempted murder. So it's a normal situation for you that the government of the day can murder their opponents? Absolutely not. If the TRT government's opponent, muslim lawyer Somchai, had had volunteer security guards to protect him he might not have been murdered by the government of the day. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bagwan Posted January 11, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2013 I feel that the Government of Thailand should sue the Red Shirt Activists for wasting perfectly breathable air. Perfectly breathable air? In Bangkok? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post otherstuff1957 Posted January 11, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2013 There are interesting legal implications in this move. While it is highly unlikely that any of these changes will survive due process, if they did there would be a precedent for charging the PM & other high ranking figures for ANY wrongful death at the hands of any police or military that occurs during their administration. Obviously, the War on Drugs and the Tai Bak incident would fall into this category. So, if these charges go through and Abhiset and Suthep are found guilty, will any previous or subsequent incidents be investigated? Will any other PMs & Ministers be charged? If so, Thaksin might be setting another block in the way of his return from exile. All of these charges are just designed to pressure Abhiset into agreeing to an amnesty that will allow Thaksin to return without facing his pending jail term OR any of the dozen odd cases against him that are pending, because he has not appeared in court to hear the charges (not because there is not evidence to justify charging, as some of our forum Red apologists would like us to think). I hope that Abhiset continues to face these charges with the courage that he has shown so far. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otherstuff1957 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I forgot to add, this strategy has obviously been in the works for a while, as the PT government strongly overreacted to the Pitak Siam protests. I couldn't understand why they felt that it was necessary to have 50,000 police out to face this group. Now, however, it is clear. If the police had killed or seriously injured a single Pitak Siam protester, then this whole strategy would unravel. I imagine that there was a huge sigh of relief in Dubai when the protests ended relatively peacefully. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunken Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 More fodder for the witch-hunt. Has Tarit clicked his heels & promised to obey yet? The PTP/reds are already overplaying their hand & if there is much more of this facade something will snap & if you know who don't step in - bedlam on the streets again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunterHunter Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) I forgot to add, this strategy has obviously been in the works for a while, as the PT government strongly overreacted to the Pitak Siam protests. I couldn't understand why they felt that it was necessary to have 50,000 police out to face this group. Now, however, it is clear. If the police had killed or seriously injured a single Pitak Siam protester, then this whole strategy would unravel. I imagine that there was a huge sigh of relief in Dubai when the protests ended relatively peacefully. Nothing stopping another group from starting off some kind of protest and then making it esculate into an event ending in a protesteors death... then watch Chelerm and Yingluck get charges levvied against them... I guess that will be this Songkran (they do like to protest around March/April!) /Edit: Typo Edited January 11, 2013 by MunterHunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otherstuff1957 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 ^ Hopefully, no-one else will use their followers in the same cynical way that Thaksin did two years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaamNaam Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I feel that the Government of Thailand should sue the Red Shirt Activists for wasting perfectly breathable air. Stop making sense HD. lol Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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