Speaking of cheating Cambodian people, the Cambodian workers who were surreptitiously fired earlier this month without warning and without compensation from the MFone company, the telecom division of conglomerate Cambodia Shinawatra (CamShin), are feeling cheated enough by owner Thaksin Shinawatra that they filed a complaint with Cambodia's Labor Ministry against Hun Sen's "eternal friend" and former Economic Adviser.

In regards to Hun Sen's protestations of linking Thaksin business dealings with Cambodia, it's noteworthy that Thaksin's MFone obtained a 35-year contract with Cambodia's Ministry of Telecommunications.

http://www.voacambod...nt/1579895.html

Time to heap praise on his eternal friend that screwed over his fellow Cambodians.

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Edited January 23, 201313 yr by Buchholz

Hun Sen Lauds Relationship With Thaksin, Yingluck

Prime Minister Hun Sen on Monday warned Thai opposition leader and former Prime Minister Abhi­sit Vejjajiva not to embroil Cam­bodia in Thai politics and derail the improving relations with the current government of Prime Min­ister Yingluck Shinawatra.

“I want to protect Cambodia as well as protect good people in Thai­land,” he said. “The benefit that Cambodia had from [former Thai Prime Minister] Thaksin [shinawatra] and today’s [Thai] government is peace and development along the borders."

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http://www.cambodiadaily.com/news/hun-sen-lauds-relationship-with-thaksin-yingluck-8191/

The Cambodia Daily - Jan. 23, 2013

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Hun Sen is correct in stating this that Thais not involve Cambodia in the internal political bumbling and stumbling. Thais are always shifting blame and shirking responsibility for anything that they can't control and manipulate. Or rather they are also shifting blame and laying responsibility on the doorstep of other countries whenever it suits them. It's a "Thai thing" and everyone knows it, not only Hun Sen, but everyone, every country. No one takes Thais seriously.

This is not ALL THAIS, this is only yellow shirts, Dems, Abisith and their masters who are the problem in this country. Thais are charming and peaceful. Now, if Dems, Abisith and the yellow and their masters want the war, Hun Sen cannot avoid it. Yinluck will be obliged to fight against Cambodia. No one dare to tell to fight the masters of the yellow shirts.

Please do enlighten us as to who are the masters of the yellow shirts. If you don't know then a retraction of your statement would be in order.

"If you [Abhisit] cannot find the evidence, it means that you cheated over 60 million Thai people and over 14 million Cambodian people as well," he added.

Speaking of cheating Cambodian people, the Cambodian workers who were surreptitiously fired earlier this month without warning and without compensation from the MFone company, the telecom division of conglomerate Cambodia Shinawatra (CamShin), are feeling cheated enough by owner Thaksin Shinawatra that they filed a complaint with Cambodia's Labor Ministry against Hun Sen's "eternal friend" and former Economic Adviser.

In regards to Hun Sen's protestations of linking Thaksin business dealings with Cambodia, it's noteworthy that Thaksin's MFone obtained a 35-year contract with Cambodia's Ministry of Telecommunications.

http://www.voacambod...nt/1579895.html

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"Speaking of cheating Cambodian people, the Cambodian workers who were surreptitiously fired earlier this month without warning and without compensation from the MFone company, the telecom division of conglomerate Cambodia Shinawatra (CamShin), are feeling cheated enough by owner Thaksin Shinawatra that they filed a complaint with Cambodia's Labor Ministry against Hun Sen's "eternal friend" and former Economic Adviser."

Well why we're talking about cheating, let's talk about lying, something I'm sure you're aware of.

Could you tell me anywhere in the link you provided that the Cambodian workers have done what you said above?

Could a statement like that coming out of nowhere without any real justification point to the oppisite being true.

We all know Thaksin was an advisor to H S till he publicly quit the job, but then in private?

It is not coming out of nowhere. If you have been reading the Thai news over the past year, you will have seen the continual attempts to blame Hun Sen and Cambodia. The statement made by Hun Sen certainly puts Abhisit in the hot seat as there is no denying that the Democrats did have those meetings and negotiations.

Edited January 23, 201313 yr by geriatrickid

Speaking of cheating Cambodian people, the Cambodian workers who were surreptitiously fired earlier this month without warning and without compensation from the MFone company, the telecom division of conglomerate Cambodia Shinawatra (CamShin), are feeling cheated enough by owner Thaksin Shinawatra that they filed a complaint with Cambodia's Labor Ministry against Hun Sen's "eternal friend" and former Economic Adviser.

In regards to Hun Sen's protestations of linking Thaksin business dealings with Cambodia, it's noteworthy that Thaksin's MFone obtained a 35-year contract with Cambodia's Ministry of Telecommunications.

http://www.voacambod...nt/1579895.html

Time to heap praise on his eternal friend that screwed over his fellow Cambodians.

A rather feeble attempt at character assassination.

If there is a labour issue, then that is a civil issue. Every day, workers and former workers seek redress from the alleged and actual wrongdoings of their employers. This does not mean the allegations are true. Workers get laid off every day. If compensation must be paid, then the company will be ordered to pay it, assuming the complaints are even true. Sometimes the administrators of companies, or one manager makes an error. It doesn't mean the ownership or the company is bad. If that was the case, McDonalds, Mahidol Universiy, Bangkok Hospital, GM, Honda, Thai Airways, Hilton and thousands of other companies would be evil criminal companies, because they have all faced labor tribunals winning or losing cases bringing similar allegations. I can bring suit against you for all sorts of manner of alleged wrong doings, but that doesn't mean that all of the allegations are true.

"If you [Abhisit] cannot find the evidence, it means that you cheated over 60 million Thai people and over 14 million Cambodian people as well," he added.

Speaking of cheating Cambodian people, the Cambodian workers who were surreptitiously fired earlier this month without warning and without compensation from the MFone company, the telecom division of conglomerate Cambodia Shinawatra (CamShin), are feeling cheated enough by owner Thaksin Shinawatra that they filed a complaint with Cambodia's Labor Ministry against Hun Sen's "eternal friend" and former Economic Adviser.

In regards to Hun Sen's protestations of linking Thaksin business dealings with Cambodia, it's noteworthy that Thaksin's MFone obtained a 35-year contract with Cambodia's Ministry of Telecommunications.

http://www.voacambod...nt/1579895.html

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"Speaking of cheating Cambodian people, the Cambodian workers who were surreptitiously fired earlier this month without warning and without compensation from the MFone company, the telecom division of conglomerate Cambodia Shinawatra (CamShin), are feeling cheated enough by owner Thaksin Shinawatra that they filed a complaint with Cambodia's Labor Ministry against Hun Sen's "eternal friend" and former Economic Adviser."

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Could you tell me anywhere in the link you provided that the Cambodian workers have done what you said above?

Direct quotes of article:

"without warning and without compensation"

"Mfone, a company that belongs to former Thai premier Thaksin Shinawatra"

"complaint was filed with the Ministry of Labor"

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OK I am issuing a public warning here and have deleted the off topic nonsense

please note this is about HUN SEN

it is NOT about Rajaprarop.

It is NOT about the South.

PAY ATTENTION PEOPLE I MEAN IT.

Keep it on topic, thanks

Speaking of cheating Cambodian people, the Cambodian workers who were surreptitiously fired earlier this month without warning and without compensation from the MFone company, the telecom division of conglomerate Cambodia Shinawatra (CamShin), are feeling cheated enough by owner Thaksin Shinawatra that they filed a complaint with Cambodia's Labor Ministry against Hun Sen's "eternal friend" and former Economic Adviser.

In regards to Hun Sen's protestations of linking Thaksin business dealings with Cambodia, it's noteworthy that Thaksin's MFone obtained a 35-year contract with Cambodia's Ministry of Telecommunications.

http://www.voacambod...nt/1579895.html

Time to heap praise on his eternal friend that screwed over his fellow Cambodians.

This does not mean the allegations are true.

Fair enough, I can amend my comments.

Time to heap praise on his eternal friend that allegedly screwed over his fellow Cambodians.

[followed by the context of the newspaper article in following post]

Hun Sen Lauds Relationship With Thaksin, Yingluck

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Next we'll hear that the little border flare-up just before the elections had nothing to do with Thai politics. What's a little collateral damage when power is at stake?

Little border flare was started by Thailand and was not allowed to be negotiation on by Thailand (observers) under Dem Gov

"If you [Abhisit] cannot find the evidence, it means that you cheated over 60 million Thai people and over 14 million Cambodian people as well," he added.

Well he has a point. I'm still awaiting the evidence that Abhisit has proving Thaksin met with Insurgents in the South

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You start to sound awfully like my dear, too early departed friend PPD. He was also waiting for evidence on k. Thaksin's outing to Malaysia. Mind you k. Thaksin has gone on record saying "Who am I to do such a thing". Some say that's as clear a denial as you will ever get

And you are starting to be some kind of stalker. Do you think your too early departed friend had the exclusive rights on waiting for Abhisit to come up with proof of what he spouts? I am waiting for that proof to be made available just like every other lie he has told to date - it seemed to me entirely reasonable to ask that question along with the others now that Hun Sen has very publicly called abhisits bluff.

But if it pleases you

I'd appreciate it if Hun Sen returns the favor and stays out of Thai politics. It'd be nice if he refrained from repeat of 2011, when he launched artillery strikes against Thai villages and schools in the run up to the election to help his buddy Thaksin by splitting the yellow shirts from the Dems.

Talking thru your 'pie hole' Thailands army started that skirmish in a failed attempt to whip up nationalism. Sounds similar to what the people are doing now over the ICJ. Only one group uses nationalism in the hope of cancelling elections or bringing down governments. You work it out. if you dont support the flag you cannot be Thai. There is other thing they use that you cannot not speak about ie religion. Remember the plot to blow up the Emerald Buddha

Edited January 23, 201313 yr by sbk
drop the ridiculous hyperbole, cheers

and STOP BICKERING. God you guys are like 5 year olds in a sandbox.

Oh and lets drop the ridiculous hyperbole.

Let me just add here. I am tired. A tad cranky and my tolerance level for this kind of BS is over. So, re-read my posts. Follow them. follow the rules closely.

All others will be suspended.

Play nice in the sandbox, now

I'd appreciate it if Hun Sen returns the favor and stays out of Thai politics. It'd be nice if he refrained from repeat of 2011, when he launched artillery strikes against Thai villages and schools in the run up to the election to help his buddy Thaksin by splitting the yellow shirts from the Dems.

Talking thru your 'pie hole' Thailands army started that skirmish in a failed attempt to whip up nationalism. Sounds similar to what the people are doing now over the ICJ. Only one group uses nationalism in the hope of cancelling elections or bringing down governments. You work it out. if you dont support the flag you cannot be Thai. There is other thing they use that you cannot not speak about ie religion. Remember the plot to blow up the Emerald Buddha

"Thailands army started that skirmish in a failed attempt to whip up nationalism"

I'm afraid that you stating this doesn't make it true. No offence and all that, IMHO of course.

BTW cudoes for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs for timely (aka at the right time) suggesting that the ICJ verdict might not be in favour of the Thai position. That really helped in getting some aroused and distract from other wrongs the current government might be committing. Of course I'm not referring to the rice mountain here, I like rice and I like mountains

PS there are many thing we cannot speak about, accusing other members of posting lies formulated as BS is one of them. Therefor I will not do so

"If you [Abhisit] cannot find the evidence, it means that you cheated over 60 million Thai people and over 14 million Cambodian people as well," he added.

Well he has a point. I'm still awaiting the evidence that Abhisit has proving Thaksin met with Insurgents in the South

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You start to sound awfully like my dear, too early departed friend PPD. He was also waiting for evidence on k. Thaksin's outing to Malaysia. Mind you k. Thaksin has gone on record saying "Who am I to do such a thing". Some say that's as clear a denial as you will ever get

And you are starting to be some kind of stalker. Do you think your too early departed friend had the exclusive rights on waiting for Abhisit to come up with proof of what he spouts? I am waiting for that proof to be made available just like every other lie he has told to date - it seemed to me entirely reasonable to ask that question along with the others now that Hun Sen has very publicly called abhisits bluff.

As I mentioned k. Thkasin has stated "who am I to have done such", no further proof forthcoming. No one charged for defamation either you may have noticed.

As for PM Hun Sen, he didn't call a bluff. He just states that k. Abhisit should not drag Cambodia into Thai politics. Probably a misunderstanding. It was the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the current government who mentioned timely that the ICJ verdict might go against Thailand therefor ensuring that a few nationalist splinter groups started to get arroused. That has nothing to do with k. Abhisit. Similar to UDD leaders (who just happen to be Pheu Thai party list MPs) provoking judges which has nothing to do with the Pheu Thai led government

PS stalker? If you look at our history you may see that I seem to have been interested in TV and this particular forum a wee bit before you.

I'd appreciate it if Hun Sen returns the favor and stays out of Thai politics. It'd be nice if he refrained from repeat of 2011, when he launched artillery strikes against Thai villages and schools in the run up to the election to help his buddy Thaksin by splitting the yellow shirts from the Dems.

Talking thru your 'pie hole' Thailands army started that skirmish in a failed attempt to whip up nationalism. Sounds similar to what the people are doing now over the ICJ. Only one group uses nationalism in the hope of cancelling elections or bringing down governments. You work it out. if you dont support the flag you cannot be Thai. There is other thing they use that you cannot not speak about ie religion. Remember the plot to blow up the Emerald Buddha

So the border clash was "a failed attempt to whip up nationalism" by the RTA, or a successful attempt to cause unease and loss of faith in the Dem govt by Cambodia. I'll stick with the latter. As there was no attempt to cancel/delay elections, I can't see the relevance.

BTW I have no problem discussing the emerald buddha. It is a matter of court record that k.Bandit/Bundit was paid by a red leader to attack it with an RPG in an attempt to cause fear and confusion in the populace (aka terrorism). I await her prosecution also, but as she is the wife of a senior RTP officer, it probably will never happen due to "lack of evidence".

Funny. When the first flare up occurred with Abhisit as PM, I was sure it was orchestrated by the Dems to divert attention from their wrong-doings. I guess it is all in the eye of the biased beholder. (I include myself in that group)

Cambodians may be jailed for trash talk

Cambodia's Prime Minister Hun Sen is not noted as one of Southeast Asia's more courteous leaders. His political opponents have been known to have unfortunate encounters with gunmen on motorcycles.

Cambodian voters continue to cast their ballots for him in part because they know if they don't he'll launch a coup or a civil war. It's difficult to know how to react to Hun Sen's suggestion last week a law be implemented providing for jail sentences for elected politicians who hurl invective at one another.

What seems to have spurred Hun Sen to take up the cause of parliamentary decorum and civility is that a member of the opposition recently accused him of being a traitor and working for the Vietnam government, which did send him to Cambodia as a proxy in the 1980s.

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http://www.vancouver...l#ixzz2Ir4rlq3l

Vancouver Sun - January 21, 2013

What seems to have spurred Hun Sen to take up the cause of parliamentary decorum and civility is that a member of the opposition recently accused him of being a traitor and working for the Vietnam government, which did send him to Cambodia as a proxy in the 1980s.

Poor Hun Sen. The two-decade long despot seems to be catching flack for actions concerning neighbors on both sides of his country.

His reaction to being called on the carpet for working in cahoots with non-Cambodians? Throw 'em in jail.

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Could a statement like that coming out of nowhere without any real justification point to the oppisite being true.

We all know Thaksin was an advisor to H S till he publicly quit the job, but then in private?

It is not coming out of nowhere. If you have been reading the Thai news over the past year, you will have seen the continual attempts to blame Hun Sen and Cambodia. The statement made by Hun Sen certainly puts Abhisit in the hot seat as there is no denying that the Democrats did have those meetings and negotiations.

And Thaksin in that time has had no meetings with his old friend and previous employer?

Isn't Hun Sen getting his ex Thai PMs mixed up here?

No.

Abhisit has one tired and failed argument using Nationalism as a way to beat the democratically elected government. Let it go son. How is he still leader of the opposition anyway?

Interesting to see such support for the views of Hun Sen, eliminator of political opponents and the rule of the monarchy and corrupt de facto dictator of Cambodia.

Curiously Abhisit and Hun Sen both faked their military papers although for somewhat different reasons...... the murderous Abhisit to teach soldiering and Hun Sen to get actively involved with Pol Pot's jolly band, the Khmer Rouge.

You seem a litle confused BB first off the Army said Abhisit did nothing wrong then the Minister of Defence said he did---Politics

Calling him murderous is just following the red shirt BS. Discussed on other threads.

Hun Sen in fact fled to Vietnam to escape Pol Pot's 'killing fields' as they have been called, then when Vietnam came in and kicked Pol Pot out he returned and took charge.

Cambodian history is very interesting from way back to the present and well worth reading.

However the thread is about someone interfearing in another countrys politics and I would suggest that is exactly what Hun Sen's statement is, an interfearance in Thai Politics.

Edited January 24, 201313 yr by Robby nz

Could a statement like that coming out of nowhere without any real justification point to the oppisite being true.

We all know Thaksin was an advisor to H S till he publicly quit the job, but then in private?

It is not coming out of nowhere. If you have been reading the Thai news over the past year, you will have seen the continual attempts to blame Hun Sen and Cambodia.

And Thaksin in that time has had no meetings with his old friend and previous employer?

GK post didn't dispute Abhsit's allegations that Hun Sen and Thaksin were meeting. He was just diverting to another topic.

Abhisit is stating today that the Hun Sen/Thaksin meetings did occur and its backed up by evidence from three sources.

Thaksin's media interviews, WikiLeaks, and Hun Sen's own comments in the past.

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Edited January 24, 201313 yr by Buchholz

Isn't Hun Sen getting his ex Thai PMs mixed up here?

No.

Abhisit has one tired and failed argument using Nationalism as a way to beat the democratically elected government. Let it go son. How is he still leader of the opposition anyway?

Because the opposition want him to be leader as far as I remember.

At least he's leading his party from within Thailand.

Isn't Hun Sen getting his ex Thai PMs mixed up here?

No.

Abhisit has one tired and failed argument using Nationalism as a way to beat the democratically elected government. Let it go son. How is he still leader of the opposition anyway?

"How is he still leader'

Because after he lost the last election, he kept his pre-election promise and stood down as leader, and his party then re-elected him as leader once again ?

Edited January 24, 201313 yr by Ricardo