Nignoy Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 over the years I have posted a few topics about my blind mate cliff, who we introduced to australia and thailand, he lives in farnborough UK, he lost his sight through cataracts in 1968,so he has gone through the trauma of losing his job, his sight, his wife and having to put up with a life of multiple sclerosis and blindness,in december last year, he went to have an assessment for a new guide dog, imagine his amazement when the examining doctor told him to come back in january for surgery, guess what!!!left eye completely restored 20/20vision ,right eye was operated on last week, opinion is he will have 33% of the sight returned to his right eye, he is rightfully over the moon, now the downside, these operations could have been carried out in 1968, but were deemed by the NHS to be non essential surgery and over budget for the hospital concerned, he as been advised by his surgeon to sue the Nhs for sentencing him to 40 years of un neccessary blindness and suffering,when he contacted the NHS in Guildford they asked him what he was complaining about now that he has some sight back he should count himself lucky, understandible Cliff is a little bit peeved to say the least, would welcome your comments, this aint a troll and I will forward your comments to cliff,Nignoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayo Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 I´m so sick and tired of past error constantly being dredged up decades later... Why the heck don´t people just move on.. You want to have a huge blame culture in england as well.. Let´s sue the germans for war crimes, let´s sue the spanish fro discovering yankee land, let´s sue descendants of slave owners for slavery let´s sue the japanese for all the deaths in wwii Move on. Shit happens, and I´m sorry for your mate cliff, but for christs sake, what will it solve. Will it bring back the forty years of blindness? (probably bliss to not see the world as we can) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest endure Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 I´m so sick and tired of past error constantly being dredged up decades later... Why the heck don´t people just move on.. You want to have a huge blame culture in england as well.. Let´s sue the germans for war crimes, let´s sue the spanish fro discovering yankee land, let´s sue descendants of slave owners for slavery let´s sue the japanese for all the deaths in wwii Move on. Shit happens, and I´m sorry for your mate cliff, but for christs sake, what will it solve. Will it bring back the forty years of blindness? (probably bliss to not see the world as we can) So you don't believe that people or organisations should be accountable for their actions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dan Sai Kid Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 I´m so sick and tired of past error constantly being dredged up decades later... Why the heck don´t people just move on.. You want to have a huge blame culture in england as well.. Let´s sue the germans for war crimes, let´s sue the spanish fro discovering yankee land, let´s sue descendants of slave owners for slavery let´s sue the japanese for all the deaths in wwii Move on. Shit happens, and I´m sorry for your mate cliff, but for christs sake, what will it solve. Will it bring back the forty years of blindness? (probably bliss to not see the world as we can) So you don't believe that people or organisations should be accountable for their actions? How is this Thailand related anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Mouse Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Why would anybody take a doctors word today? With the internet, the world's information is at everyone's fingertips. Cateract surgery is such a simple, inexpensive operation. Nignoy, rather than blame everyone else for your mates problems, you should take a close look at your own ignorance in this matter. If he is a good mate of yours, why didn't you investigate the alternatives for him? Australian news carried many stories about the work of Doctor Fred Hollows and he died in 1993. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suneeoki Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Get him to ask for a copy of the complaints procedure from the Hospital. Also, print off the following guide from the Independent Complaints Advocacy Service http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/nm/icas_self_help_pack.pdf Alternatively, contact the local paper perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon999 Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 (edited) Surgery has moved on a lot in 40 years and what is easily possible today was often difficult and expensive in the past. For instance laser surgery did not exist then and now it is more cost effective than conventional surgery and non invasive. Maybe your mate should have kept up with developments or one of his friends should have on his behalf so that he could have had his sight restored sooner. Taking the NHS to court for compensation may make him feel better and the compensation make life easier for him. However, it will also take money away from other people waiting for treatment or surgery. Is that a good idea? Ultimately it is his decision but better taken after the anger has subsided. Edited February 27, 2006 by Anon999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveromagnino Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 With the internet, the world's information is at everyone's fingertips.Cateract surgery is such a simple, inexpensive operation. Australian news carried many stories about the work of Doctor Fred Hollows and he died in 1993. Yep... of course the Australian news did; like most other things great in Australia, Fred Hollows is a New Zealander!!! My father was in the same situation; misdiagnosed with prostate problems (actually was cancer) then subsequently misdiagnosed with arthritis (actually was the cancer spreading through his bone marrow, made worse by the doctors prescribing him to do water aerobics for arthritis which he did daily despite being in vast pain to the point his hip collapsed). The doctors involved could theoretically be sued, but what good would they do? They weren't trying to be wrong...best to just move on. At least your friend has his sight back, he should be very grateful for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boppia Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 (edited) There are so many people out there who are suffering from diseases and conditions whose lives could be improved if they just knew a bit more. Are we really in the information age? Edited February 28, 2006 by boppia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldcrush Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 (edited) Hey look on the bright side (as he can now), at least he can see again...maybe he would never have known and died blind. Imagine if cavemen had a chance to sue the NHS, we would have no NHS! Edited February 28, 2006 by lopburiguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayo Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 I´m so sick and tired of past error constantly being dredged up decades later... Why the heck don´t people just move on.. You want to have a huge blame culture in england as well.. Let´s sue the germans for war crimes, let´s sue the spanish fro discovering yankee land, let´s sue descendants of slave owners for slavery let´s sue the japanese for all the deaths in wwii Move on. Shit happens, and I´m sorry for your mate cliff, but for christs sake, what will it solve. Will it bring back the forty years of blindness? (probably bliss to not see the world as we can) So you don't believe that people or organisations should be accountable for their actions? (Snip) Imagine if cavemen had a chance to sue the NHS, we would have no NHS! I think Lopburi just made a point that best Answers your question Endure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khall64au Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Kinda must agree with the consensus here. At 15, I was advised (and underwent) an unnecessary knee operation. I now suffer from daily misalignment of my hip and spine due to this operation. You can't notice by looking at me, but I tellya... I sure notice it. I was advised to sue over it, and maybe I could/should have as the advice now is to undergo a reversal op (no way Jose! the pain, the pain, the incapacity).... Then at 16, I had a bad motorcycle accident. The doctors wanted to amputate my badly broken leg at the hip. My mother said 'No, way Jose!' This is the same leg with the same dodgy knee. I walk, I run, I swim... I'm happy! Doctors are not gods and it is up to us all to make further decisions and investigate alternative treatments. What was life like before "modern" medicine? They burned at the stake I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nignoy Posted February 28, 2006 Author Share Posted February 28, 2006 Kinda must agree with the consensus here. At 15, I was advised (and underwent) an unnecessary knee operation. I now suffer from daily misalignment of my hip and spine due to this operation. You can't notice by looking at me, but I tellya... I sure notice it. I was advised to sue over it, and maybe I could/should have as the advice now is to undergo a reversal op (no way Jose! the pain, the pain, the incapacity)....Then at 16, I had a bad motorcycle accident. The doctors wanted to amputate my badly broken leg at the hip. My mother said 'No, way Jose!' This is the same leg with the same dodgy knee. I walk, I run, I swim... I'm happy! Doctors are not gods and it is up to us all to make further decisions and investigate alternative treatments. What was life like before "modern" medicine? They burned at the stake I think Never expected so many different responses, as far as doctors not being gods, then the people of Gympie should take your advice (khall 64 au) there are about 90 of them suing a doctor from the local hospital, any way thanks for your comments folks nignoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misplaced Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Suing is the American way. End result, COST OF OUR HEALTH INSURANCE HAS TRIPLED IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udon Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 If Cliff could find a pro-bono lawyer in Britain, go for it. Do British lawyers work by the pro-bono system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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