Suradit69 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 What happened? Usually the police officers "rush" to the scene This time they just "arrived." Obviously not in so much of a hurry when they get a report of a man armed with knives You do realize the choice of words is made by Pattaya One News and not the police. I doubt the reporters analyze & compare the response speed before fabricating ... reporting the news. For that matter, when news sources report police statements regarding incidents, the sometimes illogical comments are more a product of a reporter's imagination and poor translating skills than an actual verbatim report of what was said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotinsiam Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Another quality tourist...... Or maybe another nice guy drugged by others. I wouldn't pass judgment until his side of the story gets out. If it ever does. Drugged by others and given knives as well? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 What happened? Usually the police officers "rush" to the scene This time they just "arrived." Obviously not in so much of a hurry when they get a report of a man armed with knives But what are those things that they carry in holsters on their hips ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orpheus454 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Not defending this guy's behaviour; however, its very possible that he has mental health issues... May be true, but it's hardly going to win you this year's Nobel prize for forensic psychology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I must say reading posts here. Lived here in the NE for years and have noooooo probs with the natives. Been down south a couple of times and was treated like a not so good person. Hmmm, made me think and perhaps understand what the natives have to deal with on a daily basis. Saying that, went to Lao in the north recently and felt similar stuff cos the hotel dealt with farangs doing visa stuff. We are very different . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qdinthailand Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 He painted the letters “M” and “I” R-A-C-L-E Thailand - should've let him complete that. M-I-C-K-E-Y.....M-O-U-S-E! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miami Bob Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Not defending this guy's behaviour; however, its very possible that he has mental health issues... That was my first impression, mental issues either natural of drug induced, illegal drugs like Ya-Bah or pharma like SSRI's that are making so many Americans go nuts and shoot people up or commit suicide. In the states the police would have dealt with the guy quickly and harshly. Maybe even just shot him since he had a weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 He might have been pissed off that his visit didn't meet the claims of the advertising. He expects a tropical paradise of happy smiling locals only to find that its full of hookers and that everybody is trying to rip him off. "He expects a tropical paradise of happy smiling locals ..." This pretty well sums up why so many farang on TV seem to be in a permanent state of rage. The expectation that they would come to Thailand and the unworldly natives would regard them "as gods who came on big metal bird in sky." Then when it turns out the locals see most of them as cheap sex tourists and drunkards, their make-believe world comes crashing down around them and they have to vent one way or another. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowhereman60 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Just another reason why I am glad I don't live in Pattaya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locationthailand Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 and in these 3 hours the tourist police could not find out what the whole thing was about? or what 'M-I' sprayed on the ATM machine was supposed to mean? 3 hours of negotiations... that seems overengaging... shouldn't have taken me many minutes to realize that this situation would end up being resolved with maze and cuffs... The guy spoke Russian so RTP waited for a western police volunteer to try & calm him down. Lucky for him the RTP didn't just shoot him as he had a knife in each hand. However their was a big crowd of Thais watching. The volunteer was quite brave as the guy tried to stab him as he was pepper sprayed Attempted murder. Hanging a couple of knives out at the public, throw the book at him. Nail varnishing an ATM and you guys need to hear his side of the story? Vodka heroics? Get a grip... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginglee Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I would regard a Ukranian as a farang !! As the email from Thai visa states ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vijer Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 M I - Mine, seems he was tagging the ATM so he could remove it at a later time. The knives were just being used to protect his property. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harber8 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Interesting story............ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackPuddingBertha Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Having once tried a 7/11 hotdog I am not without sympathy for this chap. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happysanook Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 3 hours... wow... This 3 hours of negotiations... that seems overengaging... shouldn't have taken me many minutes to realize that this situation would end up being resolved with maze and cuffs... Amazing...If it's as the picture has been painted, it's simply amazing they tried to communicate with him for 3 hours... In US he would have about 3 seconds to ready himself for a 10 cop bum rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert888d Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I too wonder what the initials M I were for. I wonder if they are his initials Mikhail Idiotsky or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VINCENT2012 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 sorry if i am rud but the truth is,because i have seen it so many times around thailand, that a lots of foreigners who comes to thailand are really fuc_king creasy and stupid assels. They give to the thai population a totally wrong idea about what we really are. i say:Alcoolic,mad ones,criminals,stupid,assels,sex adict ...go back from where you are coming from or dont come at all. info: since the USSR is broken south of europe like spain,france italy and more has been invaded by old soviet union people most of them war criminals,mafia,prostitution leader,guns seller etc etc...they look for hot countries mostly,and they came to thailand with all their infrastructure. they are no joke ....they are not afraid, they are powerfull and have really a lot of money to convince. But they remain a bad publicity for the rest of us who want to leave in peace here ,also because they will be called also farang by the thais who dont make the difference between an american or an europeen to a russian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VINCENT2012 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 M I - Mine, seems he was tagging the ATM so he could remove it at a later time. The knives were just being used to protect his property. excelent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 sorry if i am rud but the truth is,because i have seen it so many times around thailand, that a lots of foreigners who comes to thailand are really fuc_king creasy and stupid assels. They give to the thai population a totally wrong idea about what we really are. i say:Alcoolic,mad ones,criminals,stupid,assels,sex adict ...go back from where you are coming from or dont come at all. info: since the USSR is broken south of europe like spain,france italy and more has been invaded by old soviet union people most of them war criminals,mafia,prostitution leader,guns seller etc etc...they look for hot countries mostly,and they came to thailand with all their infrastructure. they are no joke ....they are not afraid, they are powerfull and have really a lot of money to convince. But they remain a bad publicity for the rest of us who want to leave in peace here ,also because they will be called also farang by the thais who dont make the difference between an american or an europeen to a russian. Think l agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
besth Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Freedom of speech should be about the freedom to hate anyone we like. You mean anyone we DON't like Intriguing to know what triggered his behavior and what that M I means. Maybe he had problems with the ATM eating his card or something? As usual, we probably won't get a follow up on the story and will never know. I think I will still be able to sleep tonight though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VINCENT2012 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 3 hours... wow... This 3 hours of negotiations... that seems overengaging... shouldn't have taken me many minutes to realize that this situation would end up being resolved with maze and cuffs... Amazing...If it's as the picture has been painted, it's simply amazing they tried to communicate with him for 3 hours... In US he would have about 3 seconds to ready himself for a 10 cop bum rush. it was recorded by cameras from the shop ......so .....i dont know! a bit long for such a case but always better than brutality and the american 2000 volt electric police gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vijer Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 One has to wonder where he procured the knives from? Couldn't be a restaurant, Thai's don't use them, if they did they would just bend easily. Could have brought them from the Ukraine I guess, in his checked bags. Probably just bought them from a street vendor, along with some Viagra and some field glasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) Drugs are your/anybodies choice. Nooooooooooooo excuses. Not when they are slipped into your drink or food in an effort to knock you out and rob or rape you. This guy's behavior has the hallmarks of either drugs, a real bad reaction to alcohol, or mental health problems. I doubt we'll ever know which because if he was drugged (by someone else) that story won't get out because it would reflect badly on tourism. Easier and better for tourism to just proclaim the guy a nutcase or drug user and send him home or to jail. Edited February 15, 2013 by impulse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JO1973 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I must say reading posts here. Lived here in the NE for years and have noooooo probs with the natives. Been down south a couple of times and was treated like a not so good person. Hmmm, made me think and perhaps understand what the natives have to deal with on a daily basis. Saying that, went to Lao in the north recently and felt similar stuff cos the hotel dealt with farangs doing visa stuff. We are very different . Whoa...Hold on there. I think most Westerners here think 'foreigner' only refers to them. Have you ever been in a hotel full of Chinese tourists? Do you have any idea of the havoc they can raise if anything goes wrong, or what they are capable of if/when they go on a bender? Ask any Thai hotel owner who they would rather have: a room full of Western tourists or a room full of Asian tourists. I'm willing to be they would prefer Westerners. I have seen Asian tourists go completely out of control but for some reason that never makes the headlines. If a Westerner causes problems it's totally unacceptable, but if an Asian loses it, well, I guess they must have had a bad day. But I do agree with many of the posters about the government/media legitimizing prejudice. It seems whenever they can fan the flames of ethnic bias they do so, reassuring Thais that it's only the foreigners causing all of the problems. However, if the slightest offense -- real or unintended -- is made about Thais or Thailand than it's a national issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I must say reading posts here. Lived here in the NE for years and have noooooo probs with the natives. Been down south a couple of times and was treated like a not so good person. Hmmm, made me think and perhaps understand what the natives have to deal with on a daily basis. Saying that, went to Lao in the north recently and felt similar stuff cos the hotel dealt with farangs doing visa stuff. We are very different . Whoa...Hold on there. I think most Westerners here think 'foreigner' only refers to them. Have you ever been in a hotel full of Chinese tourists? Do you have any idea of the havoc they can raise if anything goes wrong, or what they are capable of if/when they go on a bender? Ask any Thai hotel owner who they would rather have: a room full of Western tourists or a room full of Asian tourists. I'm willing to be they would prefer Westerners. I have seen Asian tourists go completely out of control but for some reason that never makes the headlines. If a Westerner causes problems it's totally unacceptable, but if an Asian loses it, well, I guess they must have had a bad day. But I do agree with many of the posters about the government/media legitimizing prejudice. It seems whenever they can fan the flames of ethnic bias they do so, reassuring Thais that it's only the foreigners causing all of the problems. However, if the slightest offense -- real or unintended -- is made about Thais or Thailand than it's a national issue. Well, l have never had to deal with Chinese so can't comment but my comment still stands regarding my experiences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoli Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Not defending this guy's behaviour; however, its very possible that he has mental health issues... You think????? (I realize that you were showing sarcasm, I hope). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12DrinkMore Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Come on, give him a break, his country is under assault by extra-terrestrial objects. M I = Meteor Incoming. Just a little over excited to get the news out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attento Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 was it M 1, a Ukrainian TV channel ? That still needs explaining too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barabbas Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 He painted the letters “M” and “I” R-A-C-L-E Thailand - should've let him complete that. Dont think so, he cant even speak english so writing MIRACLE is way off the mark. Lets start with Ukrainian scripts, or just assume he was high on something judging his location and hour of going beserk. Ukrainian script is a regular Cyrillic with an "i" thrown in. There is a krapload of words starting with M in Ukrainian, and I don't think the second letter was an I too. Anyway, unless there is a followup, all of our speculation is just... er... speculation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohn Ferang Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 3 hours of negotiations... that seems overengaging... shouldn't have taken me many minutes to realize that this situation would end up being resolved with maze and cuffs... Stateside they would have just shot him, That was a shocker to learn after 5 years in Thailand, first week I was back home they shop some drug crazed guy running around nekid on the freeway, shot him dead. Armed with nothing as anybody could see, this Russian had knives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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