Thaksin Eligible To Vote

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Thaksin eligible to vote
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- Former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra is an eligible voter in the Bangkok governor election, Bangkok Election Commission chairman Narong Chalothorn said yesterday.

A complaint had been filed with the Election Commission after Thaksin's name was found in the list of eligible voters at the 15th polling station of Bang Plad District, Wimolwit School.

The members of Chan Songla, or Thaksin's family, are in the list of eligible voters, which includes Thaksin and his children Panthongtae, Pinthongta and Paethongthan.

Narong said Thaksin's name was still in the district housing registration and he had not moved anywhere else even though he currently lives abroad.

Although the Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Political Office Holders has sentenced him to jail in the Ratchadaphisek land case, Thaksin has not been jailed.

According to the local election law, Thaksin remains qualified to vote, Narong said.


-- The Nation 2013-03-04

[Robby nz]

As a convicted crim with a jail cell waiting for him is he still eligible?

[Mosha]

As a convicted crim with a jail cell waiting for him is he still eligible?

His name is in the Bangkok Hilton blue book.

[Locationthailand]

One vote and no chance of changing the result. Who cares?

[cardholder]

He is very welcome to pop back and cast his vote.

[rubl]

I would assume that by law anyone who's of legal age, registered, etc. is allowed to vote, even prisoners. Mind you the current Constitution says:

""Section 72. Every person shall have a duty to exercise his right to vote at an election. The person who exercises his right to vote at an election or fails to attend an election for voting without notifying the reasonable cause of such failure shall be entitled to or lose the right as provided by law. The notification of the cause of failure to attend an election and the provision of facilities for attendance thereat shall be in accordance with the provisions of the law.""

May be the Bangkok Governor election law has some additional details as I'm sure k. Thaksin didn't vote in the 2011 general elections and didn't have a good reason for not doing so.

[Buchholz]

Thaksin's name was found in the list of eligible voters at the 15th polling station of Bang Plad District, Wimolwit School.

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Which Montenegrin, Nicaraguan, and Ugandan districts does in vote in during their various elections?

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Edited March 4, 2013 by Buchholz

[Buchholz]

I would assume that by law anyone who's of legal age, registered, etc. is allowed to vote, even prisoners.

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Under both the 1997 and 2007 Constitution, prisoners are not allowed to vote.

Section 100

A person under any of the following prohibitions on the election day is disfranchised:

(1) being a Buddhist priest, novice, monk or clergy;

(2) being under suspension of the right to vote;

(3) being detained by a warrant of the Court or by a lawful order;

(4) being of unsound mind or of mental infirmity.

It's why Jatuporn is no longer an MP.

He was "disfranchised" under (3) and didn't vote, and subsequently stripped of his MP chair for not voting.

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Edited March 4, 2013 by Buchholz

[fareastguy]

Whether he is a eligible to vote or not is largely irrelevant, he hasn't the backbone to come back to cast it..

However what is certain he now has to un-pack his suitcase, something he wasn't banking on doing..

At this rate he will soon be classed as a "farang"

[OzMick]

As he didn't vote in this election, isn't that right now suspended?

[Robby nz]

I would assume that by law anyone who's of legal age, registered, etc. is allowed to vote, even prisoners.

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Under both the 1997 and 2007 Constitution, prisoners are not allowed to vote.

Section 100

A person under any of the following prohibitions on the election day is disfranchised:

(1) being a Buddhist priest, novice, monk or clergy;

(2) being under suspension of the right to vote;

(3) being detained by a warrant of the Court or by a lawful order;

(4) being of unsound mind or of mental infirmity.

It's why Jatuporn is no longer an MP.

He was "disfranchised" under (3) and didn't vote, and subsequently stripped of his MP chair for not voting.

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Are there not other MP.s who are on bail or something like that, would that not come under (3)?

[OzMick]

I would assume that by law anyone who's of legal age, registered, etc. is allowed to vote, even prisoners.

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Under both the 1997 and 2007 Constitution, prisoners are not allowed to vote.

Section 100

A person under any of the following prohibitions on the election day is disfranchised:

(1) being a Buddhist priest, novice, monk or clergy;

(2) being under suspension of the right to vote;

(3) being detained by a warrant of the Court or by a lawful order;

(4) being of unsound mind or of mental infirmity.

It's why Jatuporn is no longer an MP.

He was "disfranchised" under (3) and didn't vote, and subsequently stripped of his MP chair for not voting.

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Are there not other MP.s who are on bail or something like that, would that not come under (3)?

If you are bailed, you are not being detained.

Jatuporn made the mistake of breaking his bail conditions, and having them revoked, just before the election. Tough TIT.

[Buchholz]

I would assume that by law anyone who's of legal age, registered, etc. is allowed to vote, even prisoners.

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Under both the 1997 and 2007 Constitution, prisoners are not allowed to vote.

Section 100

A person under any of the following prohibitions on the election day is disfranchised:

(1) being a Buddhist priest, novice, monk or clergy;

(2) being under suspension of the right to vote;

(3) being detained by a warrant of the Court or by a lawful order;

(4) being of unsound mind or of mental infirmity.

It's why Jatuporn is no longer an MP.

He was "disfranchised" under (3) and didn't vote, and subsequently stripped of his MP chair for not voting.

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Are there not other MP.s who are on bail or something like that, would that not come under (3)?

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The dozen Red Shirt Pheu Thai Party MP's are not "detained", as they are out of detention under Parliamentary immunity and/or cash bail.

Jatuporn was put into detention for violating the conditions of his bail. He was subsequently bailed out again, but had missed the crucial aspect of voting.

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Edited March 4, 2013 by Buchholz

[chainarong]

As a convicted crime with a jail cell waiting for him is he still eligible?

No, Not jailed or convicted Robby,he was released on bail, pending he's court appearance , he then asked permission from the government to travel to Beijing to see the Olympic games with he's wife , this was granted, as history shows he jumped bail and has been on the run ever since , he roughly has two years for statue of limitations to finish and he can come back a free man , so its yes and no, if I was the opposition I'd be campaigning strongly for this statue to be axed altogether or extend it out to twenty five yrs, that would make him seeth with hate.

Edited March 4, 2013 by chainarong

[jaidam]

As a convicted crime with a jail cell waiting for him is he still eligible?

No, Not jailed or convicted Robby,he was released on bail, pending he's court appearance , he then asked permission from the government to travel to Beijing to see the Olympic games with he's wife , this was granted, as history shows he jumped bail and has been on the run ever since , he roughly has two years for statue of limitations to finish and he can come back a free man , so its yes and no, if I was the opposition I'd be campaigning strongly for this statue to be axed altogether or extend it out to twenty five yrs, that would make him seeth with hate.

Not convicted? Are you sure?

The way I remember it, he WAS convicted and sentenced to 2 years imprisonment. He was bailed after being convicted and fled, although he chose not to appeal the conviction.

[Robby nz]

As a convicted crime with a jail cell waiting for him is he still eligible?

No, Not jailed or convicted Robby,he was released on bail, pending he's court appearance , he then asked permission from the government to travel to Beijing to see the Olympic games with he's wife , this was granted, as history shows he jumped bail and has been on the run ever since , he roughly has two years for statue of limitations to finish and he can come back a free man , so its yes and no, if I was the opposition I'd be campaigning strongly for this statue to be axed altogether or extend it out to twenty five yrs, that would make him seeth with hate.

Even should the statute of limitations finish on the charge he has been convicted of, if I understand correctly he still has several charges against him waiting to be heard.

Surely until they have actually been heard they would not be covered by said statute?

[Buchholz]

As a convicted crime with a jail cell waiting for him is he still eligible?

No, Not jailed or convicted Robby,he was released on bail, pending he's court appearance , he then asked permission from the government to travel to Beijing to see the Olympic games with he's wife , this was granted, as history shows he jumped bail and has been on the run ever since , he roughly has two years for statue of limitations to finish and he can come back a free man , so its yes and no, if I was the opposition I'd be campaigning strongly for this statue to be axed altogether or extend it out to twenty five yrs, that would make him seeth with hate.

Not convicted? Are you sure?

The way I remember it, he WAS convicted and sentenced to 2 years imprisonment. He was bailed after being convicted and fled, although he chose not to appeal the conviction.

Absolutely he was convicted.

There is no statue of limitations on his conviction.

Thaksin Guilty In Land Case, Gets 2-year Imprisonment

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Edited March 4, 2013 by Buchholz

[Buchholz]

As a convicted crime with a jail cell waiting for him is he still eligible?

No, Not jailed or convicted Robby,he was released on bail, pending he's court appearance , he then asked permission from the government to travel to Beijing to see the Olympic games with he's wife , this was granted, as history shows he jumped bail and has been on the run ever since , he roughly has two years for statue of limitations to finish and he can come back a free man , so its yes and no, if I was the opposition I'd be campaigning strongly for this statue to be axed altogether or extend it out to twenty five yrs, that would make him seeth with hate.

Even should the statute of limitations finish on the charge he has been convicted of, if I understand correctly he still has several charges against him waiting to be heard.

Surely until they have actually been heard they would not be covered by said statute?

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There is no statue of limitations for his prison sentence.

Yes, there are numerous other cases that are still awaiting his return for adjudication.

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[Arkady]

I would assume that by law anyone who's of legal age, registered, etc. is allowed to vote, even prisoners. Mind you the current Constitution says:

""Section 72. Every person shall have a duty to exercise his right to vote at an election. The person who exercises his right to vote at an election or fails to attend an election for voting without notifying the reasonable cause of such failure shall be entitled to or lose the right as provided by law. The notification of the cause of failure to attend an election and the provision of facilities for attendance thereat shall be in accordance with the provisions of the law.""

May be the Bangkok Governor election law has some additional details as I'm sure k. Thaksin didn't vote in the 2011 general elections and didn't have a good reason for not doing so.

Are you sure he didn't vote in the 2011 general election? Thais overseas can vote through embassies and consulates abroad. The Bangkok governor election is more of a problem since there are no arrangements for absentee voters.

[davejones]

As a convicted crim with a jail cell waiting for him is he still eligible?

Just like in the UK, where murderers, terrorists and rapists are allowed to vote.

[RisqEM]

He has not moved even though he lives abroad and is a convicted felon who fled the justice system. Who else voted that is a convicted felon?

[givenall]

As a convicted crim with a jail cell waiting for him is he still eligible?

how did he voted, did someone voted for him which I would think is frud

[Dap]

As a convicted crim with a jail cell waiting for him is he still eligible?

Yup! TIT!

[rubl]

Just a small correcting on
" The way I remember it, he WAS convicted and sentenced to 2 years imprisonment. He was bailed after being convicted and fled, although he chose not to appeal the conviction."

K. Thaksin was granted bail to be able to watch the Beijing Olympics on solemn promise to return for the continuation of his trial. He and his wife jumped bail. As the trial had already progressed sufficiently before Thaksin jumped bail, the court could finish the case, judged him guilty and sentenced him to 2 year imprisonment.
More than four years ago now: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/21/thaksin-thailand-corruption

[furyrider]

I would assume that by law anyone who's of legal age, registered, etc. is allowed to vote, even prisoners.

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Under both the 1997 and 2007 Constitution, prisoners are not allowed to vote.

Section 100

A person under any of the following prohibitions on the election day is disfranchised:

(1) being a Buddhist priest, novice, monk or clergy;

(2) being under suspension of the right to vote;

(3) being detained by a warrant of the Court or by a lawful order;

(4) being of unsound mind or of mental infirmity.

It's why Jatuporn is no longer an MP.

He was "disfranchised" under (3) and didn't vote, and subsequently stripped of his MP chair for not voting.

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Everyone seems to looking at number 3

What about both 3 and 4

[Beng]

Of course

[GazR]

What a load of malarkey!

Just like how Peua Thai are blaming the weather for losing the election last weekend.

Bottom Line: Too many clowns, not enough circuses.

[Ian Curtis]

I would assume that by law anyone who's of legal age, registered, etc. is allowed to vote, even prisoners.

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Under both the 1997 and 2007 Constitution, prisoners are not allowed to vote.

Section 100

A person under any of the following prohibitions on the election day is disfranchised:

(1) being a Buddhist priest, novice, monk or clergy;

(2) being under suspension of the right to vote;

(3) being detained by a warrant of the Court or by a lawful order;

(4) being of unsound mind or of mental infirmity.

It's why Jatuporn is no longer an MP.

He was "disfranchised" under (3) and didn't vote, and subsequently stripped of his MP chair for not voting.

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Everyone seems to looking at number 3

What about both 3 and 4

Or just number 4

[MAJIC]

As a convicted crim with a jail cell waiting for him is he still eligible?

Just like in the UK, where murderers, terrorists and rapists are allowed to vote.

I'm afraid you are totally wrong,Prisoners in the UK do not have the right to vote!

So unless the ECHR overturn todays commons vote,not to allow prisoners the vote,then that's the present ruling.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8317387/MPs-vote-against-giving-prisoners-the-right-to-vote.html

Edited March 4, 2013 by MAJIC

[SamMunich]

The interesting aspect here is, whether he did vote in all elections, in which he was elegible to vote. If he missed one - like last Sundays' election - he looses the right to stand for election for 5 years, counting from the date of the missed election. Now I don't think he gives a damn about casting his vote, but he does about being able to stand for an election, prefably as a convicted prime minister...

Now why do I always get the echo "Berlusconi" when I say "Taksin"???

Sam M.

Edited March 4, 2013 by SamMunich