Satcommlee Posted March 7, 2013 Posted March 7, 2013 Don't listen to all this crap about going to see a doctor.. My advice is to visit your nearest Mam and Pop shop, they can cure everything! But do not exceed the recommended dosage of Lao Khao.. On a serious note.. Go see a bloody doctor!
puukao Posted March 8, 2013 Author Posted March 8, 2013 Yes, I do think there was mild shock from seeing some good blood flowing from my foot. only lingering issue is slight fatigue (maybe due to the heat, but just ran the AC). appetite getting better, slept well, and I can hop on my left foot with no issues. I guess i'm sensitive to the particles in the air. I was hoping the hard exercise would be good for the lungs. today. light walking. tomorrow. light walking. sunday. 130 km on the bike. ------------------------------- I got a few private messages: Am I the guy who lived in a Chinese cave for 9 years and only saw the sun 13 times? cannot answer that Am I the guy who had to wrestle crocodiles for 4 months just to make money to eat? cannot answer that Am I the guy who build an underground fortress on the border of Burma and stockpile pop tarts? cannot answer that hope that answers things.
KRS1 Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 Dont forget that eventhough you are riding and feel cool from the wind, you are still in direct contact with sunlight 100% of the time. Dont let the wind mislead you as your body absorbs heat from the sun.
muskoka Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 one person commented "Do the basics, cut down on salt, increase liquids, go swimming, get a massage, avoid the heat with A/C. Eliminate alcohol etc." I disagree with the salt comment. Increased intake of liquids causes loss of salt via urine. Sweating via exercise and just sweating due to heat exposure causes loss of essential salt. Salt is necessary for life and this alone (plus perhaps need for more potassium) could be your problem. Do some research. Electrolytes Are “Lost” While Exercising Thebody loses electrolytes (especially sodium) during exercise primarilythrough sweating. The most important electrolytes lost during intenseexercise and endurance activities are sodium and potassium. Whenelectrolytes are low in your body, muscle and nerve function will beimpaired. Or you might start to feel dizzy or nauseous. Inmild cases of electrolyte loss, you may not “feel” any symptoms at all,but the imbalance will still affect your performance and recovery. Youmay think you just had a “bad workout” or didn’t “get enough rest.” Inaddition, having low electrolytes will cause a much slower repair ofmuscles and tissues. In extreme cases of electrolyte loss, such aswhen running a marathon in hot weather without proper hydration andelectrolyte replenishment, one may develop water intoxication or hyponatremia. Eventhough these conditions are rare, they are serious and can lead tosevere headaches, seizures, coma, even death. A medical professionalshould always be consulted with severe symptoms. http://www.waterbenefitshealth.com/electrolytes-in-the-body.html 4. Electrolytes lost during exercise need restoringLoss of fluid is not the only concern with excessive sweating during exercise. Minerals such as potassiumand sodium are also excreted through the pores. These minerals, calledelectrolytes, are important for normal body function. Potassium isinvolved in many vital processes such as muscle contraction, heartfunction, and maintaining fluid balance. Sodium, which is a component ofsalt, is also involved in maintenance of fluid balance. It is easy to replenish electrolytes with post-exercise foods. Giventhe high sodium content of the American diet, replacing salt loss isusually of no major concern. Some popular recovery drinks such asGatorade and PowerAde are surprisingly low in potassium, so it is wiseto have on hand some high potassium foods to eat after exercise.Examples include potatoes, yogurt, orange juice, bananas, pineapplejuice and raisins. http://www.thedietchannel.com/Re-Build-Your-Body-After-a-Strenuous-Workout.htm also http://greatist.com/fitness/do-i-really-need-electrolytes-after-exercise http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/exercise-and-effective-salt-replacement
harryfrompattaya Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 As a follow up to little Eek's post--a good friend of mine, riding his bike, got blind-sided by a dog--dog ran off yelping, my friend got a bad bruise on his leg--followed a couple of days later by swelling of the leg to double size--tropical ulcer next, and very close to Gangrene--all within a week--he, too, nearly lost his leg. Poor sod survived, even after a spell in Wachira Government Hospital, only to be killed by a car driver 6 months later. Sad tale--but totally true. Maybe it should against the law for Farangs to ride Bikes in Thailand 1
KRS1 Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 like theyd care about the law anyway, id say 75% of farang riders in thailand dont have a license as it is.
puukao Posted March 8, 2013 Author Posted March 8, 2013 Salt and potassium has been in my diet for decades. they even say a good post-exercise drink in chocolate milk. Salt is super important. and today alone I had orange juice, yoghurt and some papaya. for a week I will try to make an effort to only ride in the mornings, but 4 hours on the bike might mean 8 a.m. to noon. so you will be in the heat. remember, we are talking pedal bikes. no license needed. and it's nice to get 50k out of city whenever you want. nice change of pace. it is amazing that is you are just a few % dehydrated; huge differences. 20% loss of power, which means your body is struggling. ONE QUICK QUESTION: Is the reverse osmosis water totally fine to drink? I think I read they strip out the minerals, but has anyone felt bad after drinking lots of this water? thanks
CobraSnakeNecktie Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 one person commented "Do the basics, cut down on salt, increase liquids, go swimming, get a massage, avoid the heat with A/C. Eliminate alcohol etc." I disagree with the salt comment. Increased intake of liquids causes loss of salt via urine. Sweating via exercise and just sweating due to heat exposure causes loss of essential salt. Salt is necessary for life and this alone (plus perhaps need for more potassium) could be your problem. Do some research. Electrolytes Are “Lost” While Exercising The body loses electrolytes (especially sodium) during exercise primarily through sweating. The most important electrolytes lost during intense exercise and endurance activities are sodium and potassium. When electrolytes are low in your body, muscle and nerve function will be impaired. Or you might start to feel dizzy or nauseous. In mild cases of electrolyte loss, you may not “feel” any symptoms at all, but the imbalance will still affect your performance and recovery. You may think you just had a “bad workout” or didn’t “get enough rest.” In addition, having low electrolytes will cause a much slower repair of muscles and tissues. In extreme cases of electrolyte loss, such as when running a marathon in hot weather without proper hydration and electrolyte replenishment, one may develop water intoxication or hyponatremia. Even though these conditions are rare, they are serious and can lead to severe headaches, seizures, coma, even death. A medical professional should always be consulted with severe symptoms. http://www.waterbenefitshealth.com/electrolytes-in-the-body.html >4. Electrolytes lost during exercise need restoring Loss of fluid is not the only concern with excessive sweating during exercise. Minerals such as potassium and sodium are also excreted through the pores. These minerals, called electrolytes, are important for normal body function. Potassium is involved in many vital processes such as muscle contraction, heart function, and maintaining fluid balance. Sodium, which is a component of salt, is also involved in maintenance of fluid balance. It is easy to replenish electrolytes with post-exercise foods. Given the high sodium content of the American diet, replacing salt loss is usually of no major concern. Some popular recovery drinks such as Gatorade and PowerAde are surprisingly low in potassium, so it is wise to have on hand some high potassium foods to eat after exercise. Examples include potatoes, yogurt, orange juice, bananas, pineapple juice and raisins. http://www.thedietchannel.com/Re-Build-Your-Body-After-a-Strenuous-Workout.htm also http://greatist.com/fitness/do-i-really-need-electrolytes-after-exercise http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/exercise-and-effective-salt-replacement it's a fair point. There are different definitions of salt however. Sodium Chloride is refined salt with minerals removed and the most common additive of processed foods. Sodium Chloride is responsible for increasing extracellular fluid which means the water must be drawn from other tissues. That is not what one wants when they are dehydrated because it will further starve the cells and organs of valuable water. Sea Salt is whole salt which has many beneficial minerals A lot of people would be helping themselves to reduce Sodium Chloride and perhaps increase whole salt. One can get valuable sodium and electrolytes without consuming Sodium Chloride or Whole salt by eating various unrefined foods.
KRS1 Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 reverse osmosis is fine, might smell a little funny though.
Mestizo Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 weight was 154 lbs. ah, that's not a crazy concern. Holy Christ! There's your problem!!! GET YOURSELF A CHEESEBURGER, STAT! Are you like 5'2" tall? I remember when I weighted 154 pounds.... Yep, 8th grade was a great year.. -Mestizo
CobraSnakeNecktie Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 I guess i'm sensitive to the particles in the air. I was hoping the hard exercise would be good for the lungs. today. light walking. tomorrow. light walking. sunday. 130 km on the bike. ------------------------------- Definitely the particulate matter changes things. I have to cut back my mileage a lot or wear a real air filter mask. Even then the air hammers the skin and eyes and seems to increase my water needs. Throw in hotter temperatures and its hard to maintain the same mileage. I think the air pollution increases inflammation and exposes a persons weak links.. For me it tends to be sinus, skin and joints will be annoyed by the pollution.
rookball Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 from your post, you seems unclear and very little details are given. im suspecting the fever, leg injury, exhaustion and poor appetite are all hallucinations from a head injury occurred during the accident. i would suggest a full body xray and mri scan and being placed immediately under a observation ward Very sensible suggestion there....and should be followed up by the Op I was all for amputation at the neck for curing the clearish stuff in the lungs. I'm pretty sure that it will solve your other issues as well. Give it a go and then post an update. amputation neck down or neck up?
haybilly Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 As a follow up to little Eek's post--a good friend of mine, riding his bike, got blind-sided by a dog--dog ran off yelping, my friend got a bad bruise on his leg--followed a couple of days later by swelling of the leg to double size--tropical ulcer next, and very close to Gangrene--all within a week--he, too, nearly lost his leg. Poor sod survived, even after a spell in Wachira Government Hospital, only to be killed by a car driver 6 months later. Sad tale--but totally true. Maybe it should against the law for Farangs to ride Bikes in Thailand I detect sarcasm, albeit very amusing--but Farang should definitely think twice, and hten once again, before riding bikes in thailand--both motorized and pedal-pwer--but the ones with engines are a definite worry. I rode bikes in 'the West' for years and years, AJS, Matchless, Triumph, BSA and then onto Jap imports but, here in Thailand, I seem to have lost my will to die.
puukao Posted March 9, 2013 Author Posted March 9, 2013 On pedal bikes, my theory is "if you are an obstacle, just walk instead, or get a ride." Going 5-10 mph when traffic is going 3x that speed is dangerous. However, I can usually go from 20 mph to 30 mph and I feel I am more part of the traffic than an obstacle. So it seems, seems, like the cars take me more seriously. Yes, I am still in harm's way and it can be very unsafe at times. yes, I can't always go as fast as the traffic and I know a bad accident will put me at the short end of the stick; however, after 4 months of riding 5x a week I think it is much better than if I went much slower. the motorbikes are insane. I've seen a few wrecks on doi suthep. I will NEVER rent one. but if you love to ride a motorbike, then you must ride. I get that. just please wear a helmet. I really don't get why a 70 year old guy rents a motorbike, has a massive accident, and still thinks his reflexes are as good as when he was 20. they are not. i'm in my late 30's and i'm losing my edge. anyhow, be safe out there.
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