Popular Post puukao Posted March 9, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2013 I hope I help one person. I am certainly not immune to accidents and bad situations. This is in no particular order: 1. If a car is a quarter in the street and wants to merge from a dead stop, focus on the tires. Once they move, pay attention. 2. Pedestrians will usually not yield the right of way, so always look out for those wanting to cross 3. Cars that begin to move might take a ridiculous amount of time to get up to 20 mph (40 kmh). slow down accordingly because there is good odds you will catch them. 4. The front brake on your bike will save you. The rear brake is for locking up your tires and it takes much longer to stop. When using the front brake, put your weight back on the bike. don't just grab the front brake with all your might; modulate, or slowly increase the pressure. you will stop much faster, but don't grab the front brake in a turn since that is dangerous. sure, use both brakes, but really focus on the front. 5. When biking in the city, be very focused instead of just sightseeing. make mental notes of every car, person, and obstacle. imagine every scenario. 6. try to check tire pressure every 3-4 days, your tires will lose air pressure naturally 7. check chain wear. once the chain goes, all the gears will get stripped. 8. if you are going to fall, try not to break your fall with your hands. that can result in a snapped collarbone 9. always wear a helmet 10. when making a turn, put pressure on the OUTSIDE foot and press the pedal down. this is safer 11. the faster you go, the more you want to look ahead 12. if you are riding side-by-side a motorbike, say something because you might be in their blind spot. 13. cars and bikes in CM seem to be very good about using turn signals. always check to see if a signal is on. 14. never fight a car for the apex of the turn. if you think you will approach the turn at the same time, there is a chance the car will take the turn very sharp and leave no room on the inside. you will not win this one. OK, hope this helps. i'll add to it later. feel free to add words of wisdom, or some good comedy. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancid Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I always find that just like walking, when on a bicycle it is the motorbikes that buzz you real close and not the cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondKing Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 JUST DON'T DO IT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyecatcher Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 feel free to add words of wisdom, or some good comedy. I am trying. but its late and just two tyred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mesquite Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) 15. Don't assume those bike lanes and traffic laws mean something, like they do in your home country. Bicycle riding in traffic is new in Thailand and is quite dangerous. DiamondKing gives the best advice in post #3 above. Edited March 9, 2013 by mesquite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraSnakeNecktie Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I pick my routes like a surgeon using google earth and experimentation to avoid the traffic and high speed differentials. Then I use my mad skills to use sidewalks, dirt paths etc to stay off the roads until out in the mountains and rural areas. Have forgone the road biking for cross/mtb only. And finally I liberally pray to avoid becoming roadkill Good list BTW. I learned a few things thanks!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1955 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 The earlier you ride the better off you are ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cycloneJ Posted March 10, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2013 I cycle 500-800km every month; expect many people do a lot more, but that is what suits me I have 15 regular routes from 20-70km; Some I will never ride on a Sunday or public holiday - traffic Some I will never ride before 9am or after 3.30pm during the week, work traffic Highway riding - do a bit of this, and Sukhumvit has medians often for a km or more, so be prepared for drivers taking shortcuts and heading straight at you on the wrong side of the road Several places I know there will be a dog, or a good chance of a dog chasing me; extra caution. Last Thursday I was chased briefly by a runaway buffalo on a highway - that one i didn't expect I am very much a high-visibility rider, bright orange or bright lime green Lights when it's gloomy/evening. Easy to get caught out it gets dark so quickly Have a handlebar mirror and use it I 'indicate' when there's traffic about - sit up tall in the seat and arm out. Yes maybe some will think 'look a that fool in the orange shirt with his arm out', but at least they saw me and may be able to figure out my slowing and eg left arm out suggests I am about to turn left. Maybe! always carry a mobile phone In my under-seat bag with spare tube etc, also carry a copy of my ID card from the local community hospital - it has my details in Thai - also a copy of passport, in case I'm involved in a serious accident ********** a comment on point 8 from OP 8. if you are going to fall, try not to break your fall with your hands. that can result in a snapped collarbone well, I am currently undergoing dental repairs as result of a cycling accident 5 weeks ago - hit side-on by a motorcycle/sidecar, tangled up and hit the road face/jaw-first If I had the option of broken arm or collarbone, v throat/jaw minor surgery, stiches and resultant scars, and ongoing dental work - I'd take the first option please! Happened so fast, and reminded me I don't like the sight of blood, especially my own. I've been 'clipped' by a sidecar before - a boy about 7-8 with a young girl maybe 2-3 on Sukhumvit #3 the main highway through Chanthaburi. Sidecar hit my pedal. Will not enter debate about a child driving on a (6 lane at that point) highway. Sent me off into the ditch. No injuries, pedaled like mad (I was!) to catch him and did so at a major traffic intersection, but pointless, so just 'let it go' ***** one 'don't' - just my opinion - lots of resorts here (Chanthaburi) hire out cycles, and see tourists cruising along with headphones/music. Just me, but I wouldn't. ****** One last one - this would be a good topic for the cycling forum? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycloneJ Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 this is a local 'character' I see often, many kms from home and he battles along highways, it is very unstable in even light winds but he keeps pedaling along. In terms of being 'visible' I think he's succeeded But not for everyone! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post puukao Posted March 10, 2013 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2013 JUST DON'T DO IT There is a risk of accident walking or driving. So don't do it!! A risk of dengue fever from mosquito, so don't go outside. Risk of AIDS, so none of that. Risk of dying of food poisoning, so don't eat. Risk of eating plastic from the vegetables and fruits, so don't eat those. Risk of bad lungs from pollution, don't go outside. Risk of everything.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CobraSnakeNecktie Posted March 10, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2013 JUST DON'T DO IT There is a risk of accident walking or driving. So don't do it!! A risk of dengue fever from mosquito, so don't go outside. Risk of AIDS, so none of that. Risk of dying of food poisoning, so don't eat. Risk of eating plastic from the vegetables and fruits, so don't eat those. Risk of bad lungs from pollution, don't go outside. Risk of everything.... it's all about risk/reward and risk analysis. I don't want to play russian roulette or dress up like a deer for a nature walk during hunting season :-) Getting hit by a 2000 kilo vehicle while cycling is about as serious as being shot at with an assault rifle.. It's a serious risk. Cycling in Thailand is definitely not for everybody. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesCh Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 puukao sounds like an American politician! He forgot one: Don't touch money and risk getting germs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rene123 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Those were all good suggestions, Puukao. Thanks. They are just as true for riding a motorbike. Your suggestion about watching the tires is a good one. I do that all the time. But, I actually think a motorbike is safer in Thaiand because of the mirrors and ability to stay AHEAD of the traffic. You've got to be 100% aware at ALL times and never take anything for granted. I have survived by EXPECTING something to be NOT where it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rene123 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 JUST DON'T DO IT There is a risk of accident walking or driving. So don't do it!! A risk of dengue fever from mosquito, so don't go outside. Risk of AIDS, so none of that. Risk of dying of food poisoning, so don't eat. Risk of eating plastic from the vegetables and fruits, so don't eat those. Risk of bad lungs from pollution, don't go outside. Risk of everything.... it's all about risk/reward and risk analysis. I don't want to play russian roulette or dress up like a deer for a nature walk during hunting season :-) Getting hit by a 2000 kilo vehicle while cycling is about as serious as being shot at with an assault rifle.. It's a serious risk. Cycling in Thailand is definitely not for everybody. Exactly. Life would be pretty boring without a few risks. Just living in Thailand is a risk. Why live a boring life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rene123 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 That is a great photo, CycloneJ. I may just borrow it to show friends back in Canada. Seeing things like that is what riding is all about. Sitting around your hotel swimming pool, or in front of a computer screen is something you could do anywhere in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycloneJ Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 ^ thanks something i didn't notice at the time is that appears to be an Air New Zealand logo off the back of his bike. Don't know where he'd have got that from if it is. He always has perfectly clean and ironed shorts/white shirt - similar to school uniform ones but he must be 40+. No lycra! I wave and he smiles back - I think taking a hand off the bars may affect his stability too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puukao Posted March 14, 2013 Author Share Posted March 14, 2013 Just a few more "suggestions" that might help, or be totally worthless. probably the latter. If you are afraid the car might try to cross the road and you really don't want to cut it close, shake your head NO. I've done this 20+ times and nobody seems offended.....you can smile at the same time, but they may not see that part. I just want them to know that I am going faster than they think. if the road is bumpy, use your arms and legs as suspension. keep your pedals even on both sides, bend your elbows, and lift off the seat if you can....this will absorb the road bumps. much better than locking up the brakes and losing traction as soon as you feel the road changing beneath you. too many things happen here too fast....so never stare at the front tire. chin up, so head will be up.....if neck hurts, raise handlebar. if knees hurt, raise seat. if hamstrings hurt, lower seat. if upper back hurts, move seat forward or raise handlebars. if private parts hurt, point seat down just a little..... this one is tough, but I have done it.....If you just have a gut feeling that things seem too dangerous because of traffic, heat, bikes, etc.....pull over in the shade and relax for 10 minutes. you are not racing..... when going downhill, don't be afraid to look behind you often. I do it a million times, since cars here are not afraid to pass in the corners. IF a car unexpectedly approaches you and you feel unsafe going downhill, I put out my right hand as if to slow down.....I've done this about 5-10 times and every time the car allows me room and time. I then wave every single time after I am through the turn and he passes. we are talking about 5-10 seconds i'm delaying him....but for me it's much more dangerous if he cuts the corner in half and I can't grab both brakes. also when descending.....don't be afraid to put a lot of weight on the front handlebar. as noted, front tire is way more important than back. ok, last ramble.....water is cheap, so don't worry about dumping some on your head, back of neck, and chest during the ride. the better your core temperature is.....the better you will ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARISTIDE Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Riding a bicycle in the city is not safe, friend of mind got hit twice. Even though you are not doing anything wrong someone else will hit you, car or motor cycles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puukao Posted March 15, 2013 Author Share Posted March 15, 2013 Riding a bicycle in the city is not safe, friend of mind got hit twice. Even though you are not doing anything wrong someone else will hit you, car or motor cycles I do agree that a bike is not safe in the city. But for some, it's the cheapest and most efficient mode of transportation. For others, they simply love to ride and can't stand paying all the time for a tuk-tuk, or walking. The variables are endless on "why" people choose to ride. I do think some underestimate the risks of cycling. they have no idea they are riding in the road and cars are honking at them. or they ride 2-3 abreast and expect the city to close down while they look around, going 5 mph. lol. there are good drivers, and bad drivers. good bikers, and bad bikers. I think it is much more dangerous to bike with others, than alone. I read about someone getting killed because they biked in the road to get a piece of clothing that fell off the rider in front of them. and I feel responsible for the rider i'm with, so i'm always riding differently and looking back and talking to them. a friend of mine swerved into the road after grabbing his water bottle and was almost crushed by a truck....he just isn't conditioned to keep the bike straight and be focused when grabbing for water. it scared him, and it should. one mistake, game over. like driving, but with less protection. even top-pros can have 100 accidents.....sure, most are because they are racing with others, but i'm sure many others are not. if you bike, you will likely have an accident. it's part of the game. but there are few things in life that only have positives. even working and marriage can have bad days. haha. be safe out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoodMaiDai Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 It's a good thing all the guest houses have bikes for rent for tourists who have no idea how dangerous it is to ride in the city. I've personally almost nailed 3 people THIS WEEK (looked to be Chinese) peddling around and not looking where they were going. Considering how many Chinese ride bikes back home, I'm surprised how many of them are careless here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 A LOT of tourists are riding bicycles these days and a LOT of them pay little attention to what is going on around them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARISTIDE Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 A lot of Thai guy pay little attention to what is going on around them as well when they see some stunning looking white girls on bicycles phew... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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