Cheap 1St Class Tickets Bkk - Frankfurt

[Chao Lao Beach]

They will be available to more than 40 long-haul destinations. Using the offer, passengers could book flights between Bangkok and Frankfurt for 4500 euros ($5707), less than half the full fare, Bloomberg reports.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/travel/news/how-to-score-half-price-first-class-airfares/story-e6frfq80-1226595416830#ixzz2NI21tfvS

[lomatopo]

These book into the most discounted/least flexible fare bucket of "A" on LH. The equivalent in business class is "Z". These have been around for ages, have serious APEX (advanced purchase) requirements and obviously limited availability. Maybe no more than one or two per flight. Believe the prices in the article are fare basis only, not all ins.

Note that TG has this same itin. available for 4,790 EUR all in on a 380!

Itinerary details

TG: BKK-FRA-BKK First Class

Bangkok (BKK) to Frankfurt (FRA) - Wed, Jun 5

Thai Airways 920 Dep: 11:45PM Arr: 6:00AM 11h 15m Airbus A380 First (P)

Thu, Jun 6

Frankfurt (FRA) to Bangkok (BKK) - Wed, Jun 19

Thai Airways 921 Dep: 2:45PM Arr: 6:25AM 10h 40m Airbus A380 First (A)

Thu, Jun 20

Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) €4,789.68

Total cost for 1 passenger €4,789.68

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Fare 1: Carrier TG PRTTH BKK to FRA (rules)

Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code P

Covers BKK-FRA (First)

€2,087.91

Fare 2: Carrier TG ARTTH FRA to BKK (rules)

Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code A

Covers FRA-BKK (First)

€2,245.76

Thailand Passenger Service Charge (TS) 700.00

(YQ) 13,640.00

TG YQ surcharge (YQ) 300.00

German Airport Security Tax (DE) 265.00

German Passenger Service Charge (RA) 1,220.00

German Air Transport Tax (OY) 1,645.00

Subtotal per passenger €4,789.68

Number of passengers x1

TOTAL AIRFARE & TAXES €4,789.68

Fare construction (can be useful to travel agents)

BKK TG FRA 2653.42PRTTH TG BKK 2854.04ARTTH NUC 5507.46 END ROE 30.667 XT 700TS 265DE 1645OY 1220RA 13940YQ

LH: BKK-FRA-BKK First Class

Itinerary

Bangkok (BKK) to Frankfurt (FRA) - Wed, Jun 5

Lufthansa 783 Dep: 11:55PM Arr: 6:10AM 11h 15m Boeing 747 First (A)

Thu, Jun 6

Frankfurt (FRA) to Bangkok (BKK) - Wed, Jun 19

Lufthansa 782 Dep: 10:15PM Arr: 1:55PM 10h 40m Boeing 747 First (A)

Thu, Jun 20

Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) €5,116.31

Total cost for 1 passenger €5,116.31

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Fare 1: Carrier LH AFF01TH BKK to FRA (rules)

Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code A

Covers BKK-FRA (First)

€2,367.00

Fare 2: Carrier LH AFF01TH FRA to BKK (rules)

Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code A

Covers FRA-BKK (First)

€2,367.00

Thailand Passenger Service Charge (TS) 700.00

(YQ) 11,070.00

German Airport Security Tax (DE) 265.00

German Passenger Service Charge (RA) 1,220.00

German Air Transport Tax (OY) 1,645.00

Subtotal per passenger €5,116.31

Number of passengers x1

TOTAL AIRFARE & TAXES €5,116.31

Fare construction (can be useful to travel agents)

BKK LH FRA 3008.11AFF01TH LH BKK 3008.11AFF01TH NUC 6016.22 END ROE 30.667 XT 700TS 265DE 1645OY 1220RA 11070YQ

Fare rules & restrictions

Lufthansa LH AFF01TH BKK to FRA

General notes

FIRST CLASS EXCURSION FARES A

Between AREA 2 and AREA 3 FOR ROUND TRIP FARES

IATA/CARRIER REFERENCE - I1

Flight restrictions

THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN GERMANY AND

AREA 3 ON

ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING

ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH.

Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictions

RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 1 DAY

BEFORE DEPARTURE.

WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 5 DAYS BEFORE

DEPARTURE TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED AT LEAST 5 DAYS

BEFORE DEPARTURE.

OR - RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 1

DAY BEFORE DEPARTURE.

TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 72 HOURS AFTER

RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 1 DAY BEFORE

DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.

NOTE -

WAITLIST NOT PERMITTED AT TIME OF TICKETING.

TIME OF TICKETING IS DEFINED ACCORDING TO TICKET

TIME LIMIT. IF TTL IS NOT RESPECTED ALL SEGMENTS

WILL BE CANCELLED.

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DUE TO AUTOMATED TICKETING DEADLINE CONTROL

DIFFERENCE COULD EXIST BETWEEN THE FARE RULE

LAST TICKETING DATE AND THE SYSTEM GENERATED

TICKETING DEADLINE MESSAGE.

THE MORE RESTRICTIVE TICKETING DEADLINE APPLIES.

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ANY RESERVATION NOT TICKETED AT LEAST 26 HOURS

BEFORE DEPARTURE WILL BE CANCELLED. THIS APPLIES

IRRESPECTIVE OF THE ABOVE MENTIONED DEADLINES.

RESERVATIONS MADE WITHIN 26 HOURS BEFORE DEPARTURE

REQUIRE TICKETING AT THE SAME TIME.

Maximum stay requirements

TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12

MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.

Stopover restrictions

UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION

UNLIMITED IN EUROPE IN EACH DIRECTION.

Transfer restrictions

UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT

FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED

SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.

NOTE -

UNLESS RESTRICTED BY ROUTING ATTACHED

TO FARE RECORD.

Combinability

END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED.

APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN

MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23.

OPEN JAWS

FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS

-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS.

A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS

PERMITTED.

MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN

MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.

PROVIDED -

THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE

WITHIN

-WITHIN AREA 1 OR WITHIN AREA 2 OR WITHIN AREA 3

COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER LX/OS/SN/

LH/NH IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF.

ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS

FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS

-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS

-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS

A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS

PERMITTED.

PROVIDED -

COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER LX/OS/SN/LH/

NH IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF.

Surcharges

THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -

TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN IRAN,ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF.

AND - INFANT 0-1 WITHOUT A SEAT.

THERE IS NO FUEL SURCHARGE PER DIRECTION.

NOTE -

SALE OF THIS FARE IS PERMITTED WORLDWIDE.

THIS SURCHARGE IS ONLY APPLICABLE WHEN TICKETS ARE

SOLD IN ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN.

THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -

TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN IRAN,ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF.

A FUEL SURCHARGE OF EUR 132.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE

ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE.

NOTE -

SALE OF THIS FARE IS PERMITTED WORLDWIDE.

THIS SURCHARGE IS ONLY APPLICABLE WHEN TICKETS ARE

SOLD IN ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN.

Sales restrictions

TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/AFTER 25SEP 12.

Sales restrictions

EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED.

TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN IRAN,ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF.

TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3.

NOTE -

SALES RESTRICTIONS/ SEQUENTIAL USE OF FLIGHT

COUPONS

OTHER CONDITIONS

SEQUENTIAL USE OF FLIGHT COUPONS - THIS FARE IS

ONLY VALID IF THE FLIGHTS ARE TAKEN IN THE BOOKED

SEQUENCE. OTHERWISE THE FARE WILL BE RECALCULATED

BASED ON THE ACTUAL FLIGHT ROUTING.

RESPECTIVE REISSUE MUST BE DONE AS DESCRIBED IN

GGAIRLHPT5INFO - OUT OF SEQUENCE REISSUE /1A USER/

GC.LH - GP.68 /1G USER/

G/AIR/LH0 - CAT TICKETING /1P USER/

ESERVICE.SABRE.COM - CAT TICKETING /1S USER/

S.LHB/TICKETING /1V USER/

Penalties

CANCELLATIONS

ANY TIME

CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED.

NOTE -

CHARGE DOES NOT APPLY.

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THE FOLLOWING RULES APPLY PER PRICING UNIT.

WHEN COMBINING FARES THE MOST RESTRICTIVE

CANCELLATION CONDITIONS APPLY FOR THE ENTIRE

PRICING UNIT.

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REFUND OF UNUSED FEES AND TAXES PERMITTED.

UNLESS APPLICABLE OW/RT FARE PLUS TAXES FOR

ACTUAL TRAVEL IS HIGHER THAN WHOLE ORIGINAL

TICKET. IN THIS CASE NO TAX OR FEE REFUND

WILL BE PERMITTED.

EXCEPTION-

THE TICKET PURCHASER IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR A REFUND

OF THE PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE TAX ON

UNUSED/NONREFUNDABLE OR EXPIRED TICKETS

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THE OPTIONAL PAYMENT CHARGE WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.

CHANGES

BEFORE DEPARTURE

CHANGES PERMITTED.

NOTE -

CHANGES PERMITTED FOR REVALIDATION/REISSUE.

NO CHANGE FEE APPLIES.

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THE FOLLOWING RULES APPLY PER FARE COMPONENT

/DIRECTION.

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CHANGES PERMITTED FOR REROUTING/REBOOKING

PROVIDED THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE COMPLIED

WITH-

REROUTING/REBOOKING PERMITTED PROVIDED ALL

CONDITIONS OF THE NEW FARE INCLUDING ADVANCE

PURCHASE ARE COMPLIED WITH IRRESPECTIVE IF

CHANGE OCCURS TO OUTBOUND OR INBOUND FLIGHT.

WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER

FARE THE DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED.

WHEN THE NEW ITINERAY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE

A CREDIT OF THE RESIDUAL AMOUNT WILL BE MADE.

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COMPLETELY UNUSED TICKETS CANNOT BE CHANGED INTO

A TICKET WHERE ORIGINAL ISSUING CARRIER IS NO

LONGER INCLUDED IN THE ITINERARY. TICKET IS THEN

ONLY BE VALID FOR REFUND. PLS REFER TO REFUND

SECTION IF APPLICABLE.

AFTER DEPARTURE

CHANGES PERMITTED.

NOTE -

CHANGES PERMITTED FOR REVALIDATION/REISSUE.

NO CHANGE FEE APPLIES.

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THE FOLLOWING RULES APPLY PER FARE COMPONENT

/DIRECTION.

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CHANGES PERMITTED FOR REROUTING/REBOOKING

PROVIDED THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE COMPLIED

WITH-

REROUTING/REBOOKING TO A HIGHER/LOWER ROUND TRIP

FARE PERMITTED PROVIDED ALL CONDITIONS OF THE NEW

FARE FOR THE ENTIRE JOURNEY EXCEPT ADVANCE

PURCHASE ARE COMPLIED WITH.

WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER

FARE THE DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED.

WHEN THE NEW ITINERAY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE

A CREDIT OF THE RESIDUAL AMOUNT WILL BE MADE.

HIP exceptions

THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR

STOPOVERS.

Endorsements

THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED -

FL/CNX/CHG RESTRICTED - AND - CHECK FARE NOTE - IN THE

ENDORSEMENT BOX.

Discounts

ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE.

TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT.

NOTE -

FOR CHILDREN TURNING 12 YEARS ENROUTE - ADULT FARE

HAS TO BE USED FOR THE ENTIRE JOURNEY.

OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF

THE FARE.

TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT

OR - 1ST INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT

OF THE FARE.

TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT.

NOTE -

FOR INFANTS TURNING 2 YEARS ENROUTE - DUE TO

SAFETY REGULATIONS - A BOOKED SEAT WILL BE

REQUIRED FOR THE REMAINING PORTIONS OF THE

JOURNEY. WHEN A SEPARATE SEAT IS REQUIRED ON A

PORTION OF THE JOURNEY - CHILD FARE HAS TO BE

USED FOR THE ENTIRE JOURNEY.

OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-11. ID REQUIRED - CHARGE 100

PERCENT OF THE FARE.

TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT.

NOTE -

UNACCOMPANIED CHILD UNDER 5 YEARS OF AGE WILL NOT

BE ACCEPTED FOR CARRIAGE. SERVICE CHARGE FOR

UNACCOMPANIED CHILD APPLIES.

FOR FURTHER INFO PLEASE CHECK GGAIRLHPT11INFO.

Voluntary changes

IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS

BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY

NO CHARGE FOR REVALIDATION OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL

CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS AND

REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED

PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-

1. NO CHANGE TO STOPOVERS AND CONNECTIONS/FARE BREAKS

2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST

BE DOMESTIC

3. LH SAME FARE CLASS GOVERNED BY SAME RULE IS USED

4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET

5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE

OF PRICING UNIT

6. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO LH OR 4U/A3/AC/CA/CO/EN/

ET/JJ/JP/KF/LG/LO/LX/MS/NH/NZ/OS/OU/OZ/SA/SK/SN/SQ/TG/

TK/TP/UA/US

REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT

ENDORSEMENT BOX- NEW ENDORSEMENTS.

OR -

BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY

NO CHARGE FOR REISSUE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED

FARE COMPONENTS AND

REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED

PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-

1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON

2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST

BE DOMESTIC

3. 4U/A3/AC/CA/CO/EN/ET/JJ/JP/KF/LH/LO/LX/MS/NH/NZ/

OS/OU/OZ/SA/SK/SN/SQ/TG/TK/TP/UA/US FARES ARE USED

4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN

PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED

FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF

5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET

6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE

OF PRICING UNIT

7. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO LH OR 4U/A3/AC/CA/CO/EN/

ET/JJ/JP/KF/LG/LO/LX/MS/NH/NZ/OS/OU/OZ/SA/SK/SN/SQ/TG/

TK/TP/UA/US

OR -

REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY

PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-

1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST

BE DOMESTIC

2. 4U/A3/AC/CA/CO/EN/ET/JJ/JP/KF/LH/LO/LX/MS/NH/NZ/

OS/OU/OZ/SA/SK/SN/SQ/TG/TK/TP/UA/US FARES ARE USED

3. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN

PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED

FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF

4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE

OF PRICING UNIT

5. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO LH OR 4U/A3/AC/CA/CO/EN/

ET/JJ/JP/KF/LG/LO/LX/MS/NH/NZ/OS/OU/OZ/SA/SK/SN/SQ/TG/

TK/TP/UA/US

REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT

ENDORSEMENT BOX- NEW ENDORSEMENTS.

OR -

AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY

NO CHARGE FOR REVALIDATION OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL

CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS AND

REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED

PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-

1. NO CHANGE TO STOPOVERS AND CONNECTIONS/FARE BREAKS

2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST

BE DOMESTIC

3. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT

4. LH SAME FARE CLASS GOVERNED BY SAME RULE IS USED

5. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE

PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE

ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET

6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO

DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT

7. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO LH OR 4U/A3/AC/CA/CO/EN/

ET/JJ/JP/KF/LG/LO/LX/MS/NH/NZ/OS/OU/OZ/SA/SK/SN/SQ/TG/

TK/TP/UA/US

REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT

ENDORSEMENT BOX- NEW ENDORSEMENTS.

OR -

AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY

NO CHARGE FOR REISSUE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED

FARE COMPONENTS AND

REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED

PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-

1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST

BE DOMESTIC

2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT

3. 4U/A3/AC/CA/CO/EN/ET/JJ/JP/KF/LH/LO/LX/MS/NH/NZ/

OS/OU/OZ/SA/SK/SN/SQ/TG/TK/TP/UA/US FARES ARE USED

4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN

PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED

FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF

5. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE

PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE

ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET

6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO

DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT

7. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO LH OR 4U/A3/AC/CA/CO/EN/

ET/JJ/JP/KF/LG/LO/LX/MS/NH/NZ/OS/OU/OZ/SA/SK/SN/SQ/TG/

TK/TP/UA/US

REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT

ENDORSEMENT BOX- NEW ENDORSEMENTS.

Application

RESTRICTED FIRST CLASS FARES FROM AREA 02 TO AREA 03

APPLICATION

AREA

THESE FARES APPLY

FROM AREA 2 TO AREA 3.

CLASS OF SERVICE

THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST CLASS SERVICE.

CAPACITY LIMITATIONS

THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED

ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH

FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS.

THE NUMBER OF SEATS WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE

AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE

CARRIERS BEST JUDGMENT

OTHER CONDITIONS

MILEAGE UPGRADE PERMITTED FOR BOOKING CLASSES

B/Y/D/C/J. FOR FURTHER BOOKING CLASSES AND

CONDITIONS CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.

Edited March 12, 2013 by lomatopo

[GrantSmith]

What is the point of posting all the T&C's when all you appear to be trying to provide is a price differential?

[lomatopo]

What is the point of posting all the T&C's when all you appear to be trying to provide is a price differential?

So people get a feel for the additional restrictions on A fares. In most cases any changes would re-price into the (significantly) higher F bucket.

[GrantSmith]

Really? That was the reason?

I'm pretty sure you gave them the whole box and dice...

[FalangBaa]

My 300-euro flight from Bangkok to London via Kuala Lumpur next week on a 5-star airline (Malaysian) with a 5-star plane (A380) is looking more like an excellent deal all the time. Honestly, who except someone who's obscenely wealthy or who works for a stupid company that likes to waste its (or its shareholders') money thinks it's a smart idea to fork out almost 5,000 euros to sit inside a metal tube for 12 hours when other people sitting inside the same metal tube and arriving at exactly the same time are paying only 300 euros to sit inside said metal tube for 12 hours?

[RabC]

My 300-euro flight from Bangkok to London via Kuala Lumpur next week on a 5-star airline (Malaysian) with a 5-star plane (A380) is looking more like an excellent deal all the time. Honestly, who except someone who's obscenely wealthy or who works for a stupid company that likes to waste its (or its shareholders') money thinks it's a smart idea to fork out almost 5,000 euros to sit inside a metal tube for 12 hours when other people sitting inside the same metal tube and arriving at exactly the same time are paying only 300 euros to sit inside said metal tube for 12 hours?

Because some of us working for those "stupid" companies earn very high salaries and once at the end of 12 hours in a Cigar tube are expected to get straight to work and make multi million dollar decisions, try that after 12 hours in cattle class. My allowance is 72 hours off work to recover after a 12 hour flight in cattle class so therefore 6 days for a return trip, the expense of the first class ticket doesn't look so silly now does it. I agree 72 hours seems excessive and would be if I was only flying 2-3 times per year as opposed to 2-3 times per month.

[lomatopo]

My 300-euro flight from Bangkok to London via Kuala Lumpur next week on a 5-star airline (Malaysian) with a 5-star plane (A380) is looking more like an excellent deal all the time. Honestly, who except someone who's obscenely wealthy or who works for a stupid company that likes to waste its (or its shareholders') money thinks it's a smart idea to fork out almost 5,000 euros to sit inside a metal tube for 12 hours when other people sitting inside the same metal tube and arriving at exactly the same time are paying only 300 euros to sit inside said metal tube for 12 hours?

Therein lies the rub. Not enough obscenely wealthy people - they have jet shares anyway - nor enough corporate/leisure to fill the pointy-end (or upper deck on LH). But at some price-point there is uptake, so better to incent those who can plan travel 60 days in advance to spring for F/P/A. Unfortunately that addressable market is small.

These prices are about equal to what a larger corporate discount might yield, but those allow for last minute purchase and flexibility, which these discounted fare do not allow.

I've worked for large companies which allowed for first and business class travel based on trip length/management level. I've also worked at companies where everyone, including the founder, CEO, President all traveled in coach, from the U.S. to anywhere. They closed multi-million dollar sales, and multi-billion dollar acquisitions without issues.

[David48]

1st Class ... I can only dream.

Lucky I have a 1st Class lady instead!

[smokie36]

What is the point of posting all the T&C's when all you appear to be trying to provide is a price differential?

So people get a feel for the additional restrictions on A fares. In most cases any changes would re-price into the (significantly) higher F bucket.

I flew with Emirates first class three years ago LHR-BKK return for £1800.

On changing the return leg I paid £150 surcharge. That was the only additional cost.

[RabC]

My 300-euro flight from Bangkok to London via Kuala Lumpur next week on a 5-star airline (Malaysian) with a 5-star plane (A380) is looking more like an excellent deal all the time. Honestly, who except someone who's obscenely wealthy or who works for a stupid company that likes to waste its (or its shareholders') money thinks it's a smart idea to fork out almost 5,000 euros to sit inside a metal tube for 12 hours when other people sitting inside the same metal tube and arriving at exactly the same time are paying only 300 euros to sit inside said metal tube for 12 hours?

Therein lies the rub. Not enough obscenely wealthy people - they have jet shares anyway - nor enough corporate/leisure to fill the pointy-end (or upper deck on LH). But at some price-point there is uptake, so better to incent those who can plan travel 60 days in advance to spring for F/P/A. Unfortunately that addressable market is small.

These prices are about equal to what a larger corporate discount might yield, but those allow for last minute purchase and flexibility, which these discounted fare do not allow.

I've worked for large companies which allowed for first and business class travel based on trip length/management level. I've also worked at companies where everyone, including the founder, CEO, President all traveled in coach, from the U.S. to anywhere. They closed multi-million dollar sales, and multi-billion dollar acquisitions without issues.

Edited March 12, 2013 by RabC

[FritsSikkink]

My 300-euro flight from Bangkok to London via Kuala Lumpur next week on a 5-star airline (Malaysian) with a 5-star plane (A380) is looking more like an excellent deal all the time. Honestly, who except someone who's obscenely wealthy or who works for a stupid company that likes to waste its (or its shareholders') money thinks it's a smart idea to fork out almost 5,000 euros to sit inside a metal tube for 12 hours when other people sitting inside the same metal tube and arriving at exactly the same time are paying only 300 euros to sit inside said metal tube for 12 hours?

First class Lufthansa 783 11h 15m or Lufthansa 782 10h 40m sleeping in a bed

Your flight is either MH797 16h 55m or MH783 19h 15 m in a very small seat

[FalangBaa]

My 300-euro flight from Bangkok to London via Kuala Lumpur next week on a 5-star airline (Malaysian) with a 5-star plane (A380) is looking more like an excellent deal all the time. Honestly, who except someone who's obscenely wealthy or who works for a stupid company that likes to waste its (or its shareholders') money thinks it's a smart idea to fork out almost 5,000 euros to sit inside a metal tube for 12 hours when other people sitting inside the same metal tube and arriving at exactly the same time are paying only 300 euros to sit inside said metal tube for 12 hours?

First class Lufthansa 783 11h 15m or Lufthansa 782 10h 40m sleeping in a bed

Your flight is either MH797 16h 55m or MH783 19h 15 m in a very small seat

Nope, it's MH004 on the A380, takes 12.5 hours (direct, with no refuelling stop in Middle East) and I've flown the A380 before and the seats are not excessively small. Sleeping in a bed is irrelevant since my flight leaves at 9:30 a.m. and I can never sleep on planes anyway.

[stevenl]

Really? That was the reason?

I'm pretty sure you gave them the whole box and dice...

What is the point of posting all the T&C's when all you appear to be trying to provide is a price differential?

So people get a feel for the additional restrictions on A fares. In most cases any changes would re-price into the (significantly) higher F bucket.

That may work for some, but not for me. Too much information, so just skipped over your post after the first 4 lines.

[RabC]

My 300-euro flight from Bangkok to London via Kuala Lumpur next week on a 5-star airline (Malaysian) with a 5-star plane (A380) is looking more like an excellent deal all the time. Honestly, who except someone who's obscenely wealthy or who works for a stupid company that likes to waste its (or its shareholders') money thinks it's a smart idea to fork out almost 5,000 euros to sit inside a metal tube for 12 hours when other people sitting inside the same metal tube and arriving at exactly the same time are paying only 300 euros to sit inside said metal tube for 12 hours?

First class Lufthansa 783 11h 15m or Lufthansa 782 10h 40m sleeping in a bed

Your flight is either MH797 16h 55m or MH783 19h 15 m in a very small seat

Nope, it's MH004 on the A380, takes 12.5 hours (direct, with no refuelling stop in Middle East) and I've flown the A380 before and the seats are not excessively small. Sleeping in a bed is irrelevant since my flight leaves at 9:30 a.m. and I can never sleep on planes anyway.

What about including the time to/from BKK and waiting in KL, tends to add quite a bit. Face it given the option of First Class v economy anyone who chooses economy is either deranged or a liar.

[stevenl]

My 300-euro flight from Bangkok to London via Kuala Lumpur next week on a 5-star airline (Malaysian) with a 5-star plane (A380) is looking more like an excellent deal all the time. Honestly, who except someone who's obscenely wealthy or who works for a stupid company that likes to waste its (or its shareholders') money thinks it's a smart idea to fork out almost 5,000 euros to sit inside a metal tube for 12 hours when other people sitting inside the same metal tube and arriving at exactly the same time are paying only 300 euros to sit inside said metal tube for 12 hours?

First class Lufthansa 783 11h 15m or Lufthansa 782 10h 40m sleeping in a bed

Your flight is either MH797 16h 55m or MH783 19h 15 m in a very small seat

Nope, it's MH004 on the A380, takes 12.5 hours (direct, with no refuelling stop in Middle East) and I've flown the A380 before and the seats are not excessively small. Sleeping in a bed is irrelevant since my flight leaves at 9:30 a.m. and I can never sleep on planes anyway.

What about including the time to/from BKK and waiting in KL, tends to add quite a bit. Face it given the option of First Class v economy anyone who chooses economy is either deranged or a liar.

But if you include the prices many people will say that anyone who chooses first class is a fool.

[RabC]

My 300-euro flight from Bangkok to London via Kuala Lumpur next week on a 5-star airline (Malaysian) with a 5-star plane (A380) is looking more like an excellent deal all the time. Honestly, who except someone who's obscenely wealthy or who works for a stupid company that likes to waste its (or its shareholders') money thinks it's a smart idea to fork out almost 5,000 euros to sit inside a metal tube for 12 hours when other people sitting inside the same metal tube and arriving at exactly the same time are paying only 300 euros to sit inside said metal tube for 12 hours?

First class Lufthansa 783 11h 15m or Lufthansa 782 10h 40m sleeping in a bed

Your flight is either MH797 16h 55m or MH783 19h 15 m in a very small seat

Nope, it's MH004 on the A380, takes 12.5 hours (direct, with no refuelling stop in Middle East) and I've flown the A380 before and the seats are not excessively small. Sleeping in a bed is irrelevant since my flight leaves at 9:30 a.m. and I can never sleep on planes anyway.

What about including the time to/from BKK and waiting in KL, tends to add quite a bit. Face it given the option of First Class v economy anyone who chooses economy is either deranged or a liar.

But if you include the prices many people will say that anyone who chooses first class is a fool.

One I wasn't talking to you and two if as in my case you aren't paying yourself then you'd be a fool to turn down first class.

[stevenl]

My 300-euro flight from Bangkok to London via Kuala Lumpur next week on a 5-star airline (Malaysian) with a 5-star plane (A380) is looking more like an excellent deal all the time. Honestly, who except someone who's obscenely wealthy or who works for a stupid company that likes to waste its (or its shareholders') money thinks it's a smart idea to fork out almost 5,000 euros to sit inside a metal tube for 12 hours when other people sitting inside the same metal tube and arriving at exactly the same time are paying only 300 euros to sit inside said metal tube for 12 hours?

First class Lufthansa 783 11h 15m or Lufthansa 782 10h 40m sleeping in a bed

Your flight is either MH797 16h 55m or MH783 19h 15 m in a very small seat

Nope, it's MH004 on the A380, takes 12.5 hours (direct, with no refuelling stop in Middle East) and I've flown the A380 before and the seats are not excessively small. Sleeping in a bed is irrelevant since my flight leaves at 9:30 a.m. and I can never sleep on planes anyway.

What about including the time to/from BKK and waiting in KL, tends to add quite a bit. Face it given the option of First Class v economy anyone who chooses economy is either deranged or a liar.

But if you include the prices many people will say that anyone who chooses first class is a fool.

One I wasn't talking to you and two if as in my case you aren't paying yourself then you'd be a fool to turn down first class.

Sorry to address you while not being talked to my master.

And now you're coming up with additional info/conditions, should have mentioned those in your earlier post: "Face it if given a free ticket given the option of First Class v economy anyone who chooses economy is either deranged or a liar"

[RabC]

My 300-euro flight from Bangkok to London via Kuala Lumpur next week on a 5-star airline (Malaysian) with a 5-star plane (A380) is looking more like an excellent deal all the time. Honestly, who except someone who's obscenely wealthy or who works for a stupid company that likes to waste its (or its shareholders') money thinks it's a smart idea to fork out almost 5,000 euros to sit inside a metal tube for 12 hours when other people sitting inside the same metal tube and arriving at exactly the same time are paying only 300 euros to sit inside said metal tube for 12 hours?

First class Lufthansa 783 11h 15m or Lufthansa 782 10h 40m sleeping in a bed Your flight is either MH797 16h 55m or MH783 19h 15 m in a very small seat

Nope, it's MH004 on the A380, takes 12.5 hours (direct, with no refuelling stop in Middle East) and I've flown the A380 before and the seats are not excessively small. Sleeping in a bed is irrelevant since my flight leaves at 9:30 a.m. and I can never sleep on planes anyway.

What about including the time to/from BKK and waiting in KL, tends to add quite a bit. Face it given the option of First Class v economy anyone who chooses economy is either deranged or a liar.

But if you include the prices many people will say that anyone who chooses first class is a fool.

One I wasn't talking to you and two if as in my case you aren't paying yourself then you'd be a fool to turn down first class.

Sorry to address you while not being talked to my master. And now you're coming up with additional info/conditions, should have mentioned those in your earlier post: "Face it if given a free ticket given the option of First Class v economy anyone who chooses economy is either deranged or a liar"

I refer you to post 7

[stevenl]

My 300-euro flight from Bangkok to London via Kuala Lumpur next week on a 5-star airline (Malaysian) with a 5-star plane (A380) is looking more like an excellent deal all the time. Honestly, who except someone who's obscenely wealthy or who works for a stupid company that likes to waste its (or its shareholders') money thinks it's a smart idea to fork out almost 5,000 euros to sit inside a metal tube for 12 hours when other people sitting inside the same metal tube and arriving at exactly the same time are paying only 300 euros to sit inside said metal tube for 12 hours?

First class Lufthansa 783 11h 15m or Lufthansa 782 10h 40m sleeping in a bed Your flight is either MH797 16h 55m or MH783 19h 15 m in a very small seat

Nope, it's MH004 on the A380, takes 12.5 hours (direct, with no refuelling stop in Middle East) and I've flown the A380 before and the seats are not excessively small. Sleeping in a bed is irrelevant since my flight leaves at 9:30 a.m. and I can never sleep on planes anyway.

What about including the time to/from BKK and waiting in KL, tends to add quite a bit. Face it given the option of First Class v economy anyone who chooses economy is either deranged or a liar.

But if you include the prices many people will say that anyone who chooses first class is a fool.

One I wasn't talking to you and two if as in my case you aren't paying yourself then you'd be a fool to turn down first class.

Sorry to address you while not being talked to my master. And now you're coming up with additional info/conditions, should have mentioned those in your earlier post: "Face it if given a free ticket given the option of First Class v economy anyone who chooses economy is either deranged or a liar"

I refer you to post 7

I refer you to the help function on TV to learn how to use the quote function.

And in addition, you make a general comment and suppose everybody connects that with an earlier posy made by you?

[FritsSikkink]

My 300-euro flight from Bangkok to London via Kuala Lumpur next week on a 5-star airline (Malaysian) with a 5-star plane (A380) is looking more like an excellent deal all the time. Honestly, who except someone who's obscenely wealthy or who works for a stupid company that likes to waste its (or its shareholders') money thinks it's a smart idea to fork out almost 5,000 euros to sit inside a metal tube for 12 hours when other people sitting inside the same metal tube and arriving at exactly the same time are paying only 300 euros to sit inside said metal tube for 12 hours?

First class Lufthansa 783 11h 15m or Lufthansa 782 10h 40m sleeping in a bed

Your flight is either MH797 16h 55m or MH783 19h 15 m in a very small seat

Nope, it's MH004 on the A380, takes 12.5 hours (direct, with no refuelling stop in Middle East) and I've flown the A380 before and the seats are not excessively small. Sleeping in a bed is irrelevant since my flight leaves at 9:30 a.m. and I can never sleep on planes anyway.

How can you fly direct via KL???

Edited March 13, 2013 by FritsSikkink

[RabC]

I have deleted my post and apologise to the majority of forum users for dragging this thread down. Back on thread the offer from LH is about the same as a Thai full fare first which offers greater flexibility.

Edited March 13, 2013 by RabC

[ragamuffin]

I wish I could afford it. Squeezing 1.85m with joint probs into Economy Class is awful .

[MichaelSong]

My 300-euro flight from Bangkok to London via Kuala Lumpur next week on a 5-star airline (Malaysian) with a 5-star plane (A380) is looking more like an excellent deal all the time. Honestly, who except someone who's obscenely wealthy or who works for a stupid company that likes to waste its (or its shareholders') money thinks it's a smart idea to fork out almost 5,000 euros to sit inside a metal tube for 12 hours when other people sitting inside the same metal tube and arriving at exactly the same time are paying only 300 euros to sit inside said metal tube for 12 hours?

Some people are just jealous

I wish I could afford it. Squeezing 1.85m with joint probs into Economy Class is awful .

Others honest

[Billmont]

When on holiday I stay in 5 star hotels, not cheap guesthouses. I do not eat on the street but in first class restaurants. I fly First Class to the UK each year with my Thai wife. I pay not a company. A waste of money, possibly, however I worked hard all my life and I am now enjoying my retirement. The money I have was self made not inherited. I have made a provision for my wife after I have gone with certain conditions, a dodgy death and it goes to the doggy's home! Ha! I could save and leave it to others to enjoy! Why? You cannot take it with you so you might as well enjoy it while you are in this life. I am quite a big guy, read fat you it makes you happy, and I travelled cattle class for too many years to remember when I was a trouble shooter for shipping companies and hated being cramped up. I often flew back from say Singapore and when I arrived at Heathrow there was a message and a ticket to immediately fly to Japan. The money was good but flying economy was a nightmare. I will only NOT fly First or perhaps Business Class if my financial circumstances change but in the meantime I do not mind being called a fool for sitting in First Class sipping Johnnie Walker Blue Label.

Edited March 17, 2013 by Billmont

[nuananddon]

If you have been using either first or business class for long flights, a person diffinitely gets spoiled. There's no comparison for comfort between coach and business class, especially if you are over 6 foot tall and weigh over 200 lbs.. It's well worth the money spent.

[bkk_mike]

What about including the time to/from BKK and waiting in KL, tends to add quite a bit. Face it given the option of First Class v economy anyone who chooses economy is either deranged or a liar.

But if you include the prices many people will say that anyone who chooses first class is a fool.

It very much depends on who is paying for the ticket.

If I'm paying for it myself - then the only time I've gone First was with a free upgrade. (I have paid for business - but only one of the no change cheaper tickets)

If the company's paying - if it's over a few hours, then I'd want to be in business at least. (The company used to pay business for Bangkok - Hong Kong, but unfortunately, the threshold for the switch was extended to 3 hours, so that's just short enough to be in economy now.)

Edited March 17, 2013 by bkk_mike

[chiang mai]

My 300-euro flight from Bangkok to London via Kuala Lumpur next week on a 5-star airline (Malaysian) with a 5-star plane (A380) is looking more like an excellent deal all the time. Honestly, who except someone who's obscenely wealthy or who works for a stupid company that likes to waste its (or its shareholders') money thinks it's a smart idea to fork out almost 5,000 euros to sit inside a metal tube for 12 hours when other people sitting inside the same metal tube and arriving at exactly the same time are paying only 300 euros to sit inside said metal tube for 12 hours?

I took that flight last week and it was excellent, A380 both ways and managed to sack out across three seats both out and back, an excellent airline.

[tartempion]

Seesm you can get as first class ticket FRA-BKK for 3069 euros at www.vornesitsen.de, depart 01 april to 30 june

Destination Business Class First Class Bangkok € 2.339,- € 3.069,- Kuala Lumpur, Singapur € 2.559,- € 3.249,- Penang, Hongkong € 2.539,- € 3.229,- Denpasar € 2.799,- € 3.449,- Sydney € 3.289,- € 4.489,- Brisbane, Melbourne € 3.289,- € 4.339,- Perth € 3.219,- € 4.269,- Auckland € 3.619,- € 4.719,- Hanoi, Ho-Chi-Minh-Stadt, Phnom Penh € 2.539,- € 3.229,- Yangon, Vientiane, Mandalay € 2.529,- € 3.219,- Ubon Ratchathani, Udon Thani € 2.449,- € 3.149,- Hat Yai, Krabi, Surat Thani, Khon Kaen € 2.449,- € 3.149,- Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai, Phuket, Koh Samui € 2.449,- € 3.149,-

Edited March 18, 2013 by tartempion

[jaapfries]

My 300-euro flight from Bangkok to London via Kuala Lumpur next week on a 5-star airline (Malaysian) with a 5-star plane (A380) is looking more like an excellent deal all the time. Honestly, who except someone who's obscenely wealthy or who works for a stupid company that likes to waste its (or its shareholders') money thinks it's a smart idea to fork out almost 5,000 euros to sit inside a metal tube for 12 hours when other people sitting inside the same metal tube and arriving at exactly the same time are paying only 300 euros to sit inside said metal tube for 12 hours?

Totally agree: I always think that all that wasted money would feed 100 hungry kids for a year . . . . . . .