Bar Licence

[jameslochfyne]

Hi.

Does anybody know where/what government dept issues licence for a bar.

What about music licence , either live or background do you require a licence for that also ?.

Cheers.

James.

[Gonzo the Face]

I would suggest that the first thing you do is find a qualified, capable and recommended accountant.

.... and probably it would be best to put an ' s ' on license. , as there are a number of them.

If you would like further, please PM me as I have some little knowledge on this topic.

G

[OldeBellPedr]

You need an alcohol license from the government office centre in Mae Rim which costs around 1600฿. If you intend to sell cigarettes you need a further license costing 20฿ . If you are going to sell food you need a one of restaurant licence from an office further down Mae Rim rd. as Gonzo says if you are a Farang starting out on your own, find a good accountant. If you have a competent Thai wife, as I have, she may be able to achieve these on her own!

[Paagai]

Music Licence This could get interesting..........

[lor]

There is only one true company in Thailand that handles international music licenses. Every other one are scams. More info here:

http://www.mpcmusic.co.th/en/index.php?menu=

That's not to say that even if you have a music license from them the other scam artists will not come into your bar and try to drag you to the police station. But if you do some research you will know how to handle them.

Chris

[wolf5370]

Depends where your bar is (Amphur) - what you are selling (beers and Thai rum, foreign spirits, cigarettes, off license, etc) and if you are a café/restaurant and want a drink license or a full bar. Drinks license could be anywhere from 50 baht to 1600+ baht. You will also need to pay Amphur taxes and register for signage as well (Thai, mixed or foreign are different process per year per square metre) and includes signs on the bar/café front (above the door/window).

[OldeBellPedr]

There is only one true company in Thailand that handles international music licenses. Every other one are scams. More info here:

http://www.mpcmusic.co.th/en/index.php?menu=

That's not to say that even if you have a music license from them the other scam artists will not come into your bar and try to drag you to the police station. But if you do some research you will know how to handle them.

Chri

If you have a licence from MCT Phonoright, they will depart very quickly. but it aint cheap.

[wolf5370]

There is only one true company in Thailand that handles international music licenses. Every other one are scams. More info here:

http://www.mpcmusic.co.th/en/index.php?menu=

That's not to say that even if you have a music license from them the other scam artists will not come into your bar and try to drag you to the police station. But if you do some research you will know how to handle them.

Chri

If you have a licence from MCT Phonoright, they will depart very quickly. but it aint cheap.

From there Tariff page: So, for most 10 - 15k a year, about what people were being fined in the scams I hear.

Code - Categlory - Tariff rate

P01 - Karaoke -

A. For 1-10th Monitor 5,000 Baht/Monitor/Year

B. For 11th monitor and subsequently 2,500 Baht/Monitor/Year

P02 - Restaurant / Chain Restaurant

Size A 201 seats up 35,000 Baht/Year

Size B 101-200 seats 25,000 Baht/Year

Size C 61-100 seats 15,000 Baht/Year

Size D 1-60 seats 10,000 Baht/Year

P03 - Bar/Pub/Lounge / Discothèque

Size A 101 seats up 35,000 Baht/Year

B 61-100 seats 25,000 Baht/Year

C 31-60 seats 15,000 Baht/Year

D 1-30 seats 10,000 Baht/Year

P04 - Beer Park 50 Baht/Seats/Month

P05 - Hotel / Hospital (Minimum charge 6,000 Baht/ Year)

A - Room rate 7,000 Baht and over 550 Baht/Room/Year

B - Room rate 6,000 - 6,999 Baht 500 Baht/Room/Year

C - Room rate 5,000 - 5,999 Baht 400 Baht/Room/Year

D - Room rate 4,000 - 4,999 Baht 300 Baht/Room/Year

E - Room rate 3,000 - 3,999 Baht 250 Baht/Room/Year

F - Room rate 2,000 - 2,999 Baht 150 Baht/Room/Year

G - Room rate less than 2,000 Baht 100 Baht/Room/Year

P06 - Shops/Department Store/Shopping Center/Supermarket (Minimum charge 5,000 Baht/ Year)

20 Baht/Square Meter/Year

P07 - Bowling 800 Baht/Lane/Year

P08 - Skating Rink / Ice Skating Rink / Racing Circuit

10,000 Baht/Outlet/Year

P09 - Cinema(Theatrical Music)

50,000 Baht/Teather/Year or 1% of gross box office

P10 - Cinema (Background Music)

5,000Baht/Teather/Year

P11 - Dance - Music School/Studio

12,000 Baht/Outlet/Year

P12 - Fitness Center/Spa (Minimum charge 10,000 Baht/Year)

40 Baht/Square Meter/Year

P13 - Office/ lobby/ swimming pool/ Beauty - Hair Salon (Minimum charge 5,000 Baht/Year)

20 Baht/Square Meter/Year

P14 - Telephone (Music on hold)

Over 60 lines 40,000 Baht/Switchboard/Year

21 to 60 lines 20,000 Baht/Switchboard/Year

1 to 20 lines 10,000 Baht/Switchboard/Year

P15 - Single Event/ Fashion Show/ Party/ Exhibition Hall

Size up to 10,000 sqm. and over 100,000 Baht/Day

Size 5,001-10,000 sqm. 80,000 Baht/Day

Size 2,001-5,000 sqm. 50,000 Baht/Day

Size 501-2,000 sqm. 25,000 Baht/Day

Size 300-500 sqm. 8,000 Baht/Day

Not over 300 sqm. 5,000 Baht/Day

P16 - Jukebox / Games Console

5,000 Baht/Monitor/Year

P17 - Monitor Ad. / TV Wall 5,000 Baht/Monitor/Year

P18 - Golf Driving Range/ Snooker or Pool Club

5,000 Baht/Outlet/Year

P19 - Electronic Shop 5,000 Baht/Outlet/Year

[jameslochfyne]

Thanx for all the advise, will try to do all my homework before i get to CM