E G A T Urges For Long-Term Measures Against Possible Energy Shortage In The Future

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EGAT urges for long-term measures against possible energy shortage in the future

BANGKOK, 4 April 2013 (NNT) – The Electricity Generating Authority of Thailand (EGAT) is calling on the whole country to look for long-term measures to cope with possible energy shortage in the future.

EGAT Governor Sutat Patmasiriwat said on Wednesday that the country’s preparation for the impact of Myanmar’s gas delivery suspension during April 5-14 has been nothing but short-term measures to help Thailand get by.

Mr. Sutat stated that, at the end of the day, if all measures have proven successful, credits must go to all who have cooperated in handling the situation, particularly the industry sector that is the biggest power user.

To prevent the repeat of such problem in the future, the EGAT Governor believes more power plants should be constructed in order to help Thailand cut down on energy imports.

Mr. Sutat also suggested that a more important issue for all to look at should be Thailand’s future energy structure as there will be less and less fuel available for electricity generation.


-- NNT 2013-04-04

[Soutpeel]

In the next few weeks there should be a cheap, slightly used nuclear reactor for sale Ex North Korea...

[Locationthailand]

It's not going to be solved by building more power stations, the issue is the supply of raw material to run them, building more will simply compound the present issue. How do these geniuses come up with these ideas?

[Thai at Heart]

Maybe not continuing to build millions of single wall Lego brick houses with 5 new air conditioners , and zero insulation could be a start.

[JetsetBkk]

In the next few weeks there should be a cheap, slightly used nuclear reactor for sale Ex North Korea...[url=http://static.thaivisa.com/forum//public/style_emoticons/default/whistling.gif]http://static.thaivisa.com/forum//public/style_emoticons/default/whistling.gif[/url]

We can but hope.

[Kaboom!]

[belg]

maybe they can aks the 1000 (1.000.000) issan farmers, who are just watching their crops to grow, to get onto a hometrainer and do some peddling to create energy

[MaxLee]

So is anybody counting down, now???

[ZhouZhou]

To prevent the repeat of such problem in the future, the EGAT Governor believes more power plants should be constructed in order to help Thailand cut down on energy imports.

go nuclear would be indeed a solution here.

[plachon]

How can he pass the buck on to the whole country "to look for long term measures to cope with possible energy shortages in the future", when that is EGAT's prime responsibility, not Somchai na Nakhon Nowhere's. If there are energy shortages, either short or long term, then it can be blamed fairly and squarely on EGAT's inability to plan, incompetence and inherent corruption.

Sutat's comments need to be understood in the context of EGAT's core business being building power stations and dams (they adore the loot that falls of the back of dam projects) and these are becoming progressively harder to build in Thailand, due to greater recognition of rights according to the Constitution used by ordinary people like Somchai, who realise they are able to oppose an EGAT dam, coal-fired power station or nowadays, the promise of a nuclear power station or three. This makes it increasingly problematic for EGAT people to make vast sums of money from construction project graft and they are feeling the pinch. Thus the need to pass the blame on "everyone" to find a solution to the "problem", by stoking some fear into people's hearts that the lights might go out if they don't play EGAT's game of "build baby, build!"

It's the oldest trick in the book, beloved of politicians and crooked bureaucrats everywhere. But Thai people are gradually becoming smarter to the wily old foxes in EGAT and are taking pro-active measures to not allow their homes and communities to be razed, drowned, stolen or polluted by EGAT, as was the case until relatively recently. One only has to take a look outside the entrance of the Sirindhorn Dam in Ubon Ratchatani province to note a series of posters opposing the siting of a nuclear power plant there, put up by local people who lost their homes and land to the reservoir some 40 + years ago and are still seeking compensation for their losses. The costs of EGAT's poor project planning and implementation are all to visible to see around the country, and now the bills are coming in thick and fast by the people they neglected to consult. "We won't be fooled again!"

[MaxLee]

To prevent the repeat of such problem in the future, the EGAT Governor believes more power plants should be constructed in order to help Thailand cut down on energy imports.

go nuclear would be indeed a solution here.

HELL NO,... I mean,.... with their attitude... I mean, with ZERO knowledge, but WORST OF ALL "ZERO TOLERANCE" and stubbornly pushing through their agenda, just to cover up their own "incompetence at the cost of saving face", Nuclear Power management BY GOVERNMENT MAFIA OFFICIALS would end up in a disaster for the Thai taxpayers....

[OzMick]

How can he pass the buck on to the whole country "to look for long term measures to cope with possible energy shortages in the future", when that is EGAT's prime responsibility, not Somchai na Nakhon Nowhere's. If there are energy shortages, either short or long term, then it can be blamed fairly and squarely on EGAT's inability to plan, incompetence and inherent corruption.

Sutat's comments need to be understood in the context of EGAT's core business being building power stations and dams (they adore the loot that falls of the back of dam projects) and these are becoming progressively harder to build in Thailand, due to greater recognition of rights according to the Constitution used by ordinary people like Somchai, who realise they are able to oppose an EGAT dam, coal-fired power station or nowadays, the promise of a nuclear power station or three. This makes it increasingly problematic for EGAT people to make vast sums of money from construction project graft and they are feeling the pinch. Thus the need to pass the blame on "everyone" to find a solution to the "problem", by stoking some fear into people's hearts that the lights might go out if they don't play EGAT's game of "build baby, build!"

It's the oldest trick in the book, beloved of politicians and crooked bureaucrats everywhere. But Thai people are gradually becoming smarter to the wily old foxes in EGAT and are taking pro-active measures to not allow their homes and communities to be razed, drowned, stolen or polluted by EGAT, as was the case until relatively recently. One only has to take a look outside the entrance of the Sirindhorn Dam in Ubon Ratchatani province to note a series of posters opposing the siting of a nuclear power plant there, put up by local people who lost their homes and land to the reservoir some 40 + years ago and are still seeking compensation for their losses. The costs of EGAT's poor project planning and implementation are all to visible to see around the country, and now the bills are coming in thick and fast by the people they neglected to consult. "We won't be fooled again!"

When Somchai uses his rights to oppose a new dam or power station, why does he retain the right to a diminishing supply of generated electricity? Before NIMBY protesters start their petty demands, perhaps they should open the isolator switches on their house and live without grid-supplied electricity - the reduced demand should relieve the need for more generating capacity.

My union produced an excellent bumper sticker some years back "BAN ALL MINING - LET THE BASTARDS FREEZE IN THE DARK".

And before the obligatory calls for solar generation start, I urge advocates to install and supply themselves. Then they might understand the impracticality of it.

[dcutman]

Maybe not continuing to build millions of single wall Lego brick houses with 5 new air conditioners , and zero insulation could be a start.

You nailed it there TH. Just imagine, 10 million aircons @ 3kwh, running 50% of the time. That would have to be at least equivalent to a new nuclear power plant

[plachon]

How can he pass the buck on to the whole country "to look for long term measures to cope with possible energy shortages in the future", when that is EGAT's prime responsibility, not Somchai na Nakhon Nowhere's. If there are energy shortages, either short or long term, then it can be blamed fairly and squarely on EGAT's inability to plan, incompetence and inherent corruption.

Sutat's comments need to be understood in the context of EGAT's core business being building power stations and dams (they adore the loot that falls of the back of dam projects) and these are becoming progressively harder to build in Thailand, due to greater recognition of rights according to the Constitution used by ordinary people like Somchai, who realise they are able to oppose an EGAT dam, coal-fired power station or nowadays, the promise of a nuclear power station or three. This makes it increasingly problematic for EGAT people to make vast sums of money from construction project graft and they are feeling the pinch. Thus the need to pass the blame on "everyone" to find a solution to the "problem", by stoking some fear into people's hearts that the lights might go out if they don't play EGAT's game of "build baby, build!"

It's the oldest trick in the book, beloved of politicians and crooked bureaucrats everywhere. But Thai people are gradually becoming smarter to the wily old foxes in EGAT and are taking pro-active measures to not allow their homes and communities to be razed, drowned, stolen or polluted by EGAT, as was the case until relatively recently. One only has to take a look outside the entrance of the Sirindhorn Dam in Ubon Ratchatani province to note a series of posters opposing the siting of a nuclear power plant there, put up by local people who lost their homes and land to the reservoir some 40 + years ago and are still seeking compensation for their losses. The costs of EGAT's poor project planning and implementation are all to visible to see around the country, and now the bills are coming in thick and fast by the people they neglected to consult. "We won't be fooled again!"

When Somchai uses his rights to oppose a new dam or power station, why does he retain the right to a diminishing supply of generated electricity? Before NIMBY protesters start their petty demands, perhaps they should open the isolator switches on their house and live without grid-supplied electricity - the reduced demand should relieve the need for more generating capacity.

My union produced an excellent bumper sticker some years back "BAN ALL MINING - LET THE BASTARDS FREEZE IN THE DARK".

And before the obligatory calls for solar generation start, I urge advocates to install and supply themselves. Then they might understand the impracticality of it.

"BAN ALL MINING - LET THE BASTARDS FREEZE IN THE DARK" - That just about sums up the attitude of power utilities towards the public in Thailand, Australia and other developing nations. And perhaps that is why the long-suffering people at "the coal face" of development are finally wising up to the way they've given away their homes, land, livelihoods and natural resources to a few money-grubbing elites for a few MW of power (usually not enjoyed by the people who have to sacrifice) and are making a stand. If Somchai enjoyed the full fruits of power development, then perhaps he would be more willing to sacrifice. Would you want a nuke power plant in your backyard or give up your land and house for a dam project in Thailand? NIMBYism is no bad thing and is a sign of social development, as people are claiming their rights.

[Pimay1]

To prevent the repeat of such problem in the future, the EGAT Governor believes more power plants should be constructed in order to help Thailand cut down on energy imports.

go nuclear would be indeed a solution here.

HELL NO,... I mean,.... with their attitude... I mean, with ZERO knowledge, but WORST OF ALL "ZERO TOLERANCE" and stubbornly pushing through their agenda, just to cover up their own "incompetence at the cost of saving face", Nuclear Power management BY GOVERNMENT MAFIA OFFICIALS would end up in a disaster for the Thai taxpayers....

Especially if there were any left after the first melt down.

[OzMick]

How can he pass the buck on to the whole country "to look for long term measures to cope with possible energy shortages in the future", when that is EGAT's prime responsibility, not Somchai na Nakhon Nowhere's. If there are energy shortages, either short or long term, then it can be blamed fairly and squarely on EGAT's inability to plan, incompetence and inherent corruption.

Sutat's comments need to be understood in the context of EGAT's core business being building power stations and dams (they adore the loot that falls of the back of dam projects) and these are becoming progressively harder to build in Thailand, due to greater recognition of rights according to the Constitution used by ordinary people like Somchai, who realise they are able to oppose an EGAT dam, coal-fired power station or nowadays, the promise of a nuclear power station or three. This makes it increasingly problematic for EGAT people to make vast sums of money from construction project graft and they are feeling the pinch. Thus the need to pass the blame on "everyone" to find a solution to the "problem", by stoking some fear into people's hearts that the lights might go out if they don't play EGAT's game of "build baby, build!"

It's the oldest trick in the book, beloved of politicians and crooked bureaucrats everywhere. But Thai people are gradually becoming smarter to the wily old foxes in EGAT and are taking pro-active measures to not allow their homes and communities to be razed, drowned, stolen or polluted by EGAT, as was the case until relatively recently. One only has to take a look outside the entrance of the Sirindhorn Dam in Ubon Ratchatani province to note a series of posters opposing the siting of a nuclear power plant there, put up by local people who lost their homes and land to the reservoir some 40 + years ago and are still seeking compensation for their losses. The costs of EGAT's poor project planning and implementation are all to visible to see around the country, and now the bills are coming in thick and fast by the people they neglected to consult. "We won't be fooled again!"

When Somchai uses his rights to oppose a new dam or power station, why does he retain the right to a diminishing supply of generated electricity? Before NIMBY protesters start their petty demands, perhaps they should open the isolator switches on their house and live without grid-supplied electricity - the reduced demand should relieve the need for more generating capacity.

My union produced an excellent bumper sticker some years back "BAN ALL MINING - LET THE BASTARDS FREEZE IN THE DARK".

And before the obligatory calls for solar generation start, I urge advocates to install and supply themselves. Then they might understand the impracticality of it.

"BAN ALL MINING - LET THE BASTARDS FREEZE IN THE DARK" - That just about sums up the attitude of power utilities towards the public in Thailand, Australia and other developing nations. And perhaps that is why the long-suffering people at "the coal face" of development are finally wising up to the way they've given away their homes, land, livelihoods and natural resources to a few money-grubbing elites for a few MW of power (usually not enjoyed by the people who have to sacrifice) and are making a stand. If Somchai enjoyed the full fruits of power development, then perhaps he would be more willing to sacrifice. Would you want a nuke power plant in your backyard or give up your land and house for a dam project in Thailand? NIMBYism is no bad thing and is a sign of social development, as people are claiming their rights.

Good on you two-shoes. Now walk to your power box and turn off the mains, sit in the dark while you contemplate individual rights compared to those of the populace.

Sites for power stations and dams, in particular, are limited. The demand for energy continues to rise despite increased efficiency, as does its price. Which increases the drive for more generation.

Wake up to the real world, where fossil fuels are eventually going to run out, becoming more expensive as they do, and the ONLY viable alternative sources of energy are hydro and nuclear power.