Spousal Killings On Rise In Thailand, With Bangkok Seeing The Highest Number

[soidog52]

when thai men are brought up to believe they can do what ever they want what do you expect. The other night outside my wifes units she asked a tennant from the unti next door if he could park his car somewhere else because he always parked it acroos our entry(steps up from the road) so none of our tennants could get past it. He camw out with his girlfriend & they threatened to have someone kill her if she did it again, then I realized what was happening and got out of the car, he took off at a great rate of speed, too gutless to face another man. This is typical of thai men, no gutts unless they are beating on a female or in a pack, they simply cannot accept loosing face or being wrong, my wife now says I must watch my back as this idiot may pay someone to do something to me for making him loose face while threatening a women(in front of his GF) or have someone beat up on here and her daughter/mum, real men hey. They do it because it makes them feel like a big man and to show people how tough they are, have to feel sorry for the thai wives/GF's of these <deleted>.

And you are happy to go on living in a place where :"my wife now says I must watch my back as this idiot may pay someone to do something to me for making him loose face while threatening a women" ? Not me, no way.

If it makes you feel any better, I have received informal death threats more than a few times in the last 18 years living here. 1 former boss was irate because a lot of the expat employees were frequenting a bar I owned and the guy is a heavy hitter. That one worried me a bit but not enough to take my toys and go home. Endless other "I can have you killed for 5,000 baht" etc.. All of it hot air, luckily. The last one I got from a farang, I just told him to take a number, gave him my home address and invited him over. He never showed. So I would not pack my bags and leave town over this incident. Do the Thai thing and just smile next time you see him.

[cup-O-coffee]

It seems odd that the article attributes Thai men and women co-habitating together as a basis to use the term spouse / spousal. Thai men and women go at it with each other all throughout their lives, regardless of age or gender or what a piece of paper says, or not. I never saw a Thai flinch because of what was on a piece of paper or because of what some law stated. They simply do what the emotions dictate, and without holding back.

Choosing to print an article about abuse from this angle dilutes the true meaning behind why Thais are more violent towards each other than most other cultures.

"Ninety per cent of the victims were women." is to suggest that their abusers magically got it into their heads to abuse them. Water attracts its own level, and both are victims, not just one. After all, the article is describing spouses who choose to co-habitate together, for better or for worse. it is not about a lady having her purse robbed and getting beaten for it.

[Eddythekid]

about 60 per cent of news reports were of homicide, about 24 per cent involved suicide and some 9 per cent involved assaults.

She said the proportion of homicides arising from domestic disputes was on the rise, reaching 59.16 per cent in 2012 compared to 2011's 49.70 per cent.

Ninety per cent of the victims were women.

That means over 30% of all news reports were of women being killed as a result of a domestic dispute.

I find that hard to believe.

Usual garbage report, your maths is excellent mate, I came to the same conclusion BS. Better subject to post about is the amount of women having their Falang husband done in for the sake of bricks and mortar

[biplanebluey]

simple no ? farmers with no education come to bangkok for work and off course take their habits with them overhere... hence the increase in crime, beatings, rapes, ...

And where is the evidence for your bigotry (i.e., that it's 'uneducated farmers' from outside of Bangkok and their 'habits' that are responsible for this)?? Perhaps you should stop spending your days watching the yellow shirt channel and actually go out and see the rest of the country (and the farmers' habits) for yourself. BTW, in most countries, per capita rates of violent crime are higher in urban areas than in rural areas.

farming communities, to judge from the ones i know, are not habituated to crime, beatings and rape. when i sit with them swigging rice liquor after a day of hard labor, i don't hear talk of which atm machine to install cameras over next, nor have i noticed anyone thrashing his wife or violating some neighbor.

Yes I agree----I live with a farming community and the happiest bunch of people you cannot find.They work hard ,have a harsh life but take it all without getting drunk or abusive.No-one is bashing his wife or being unfaithfull---too tired for most of that stuff.I am treated as one of them and I am respected and receive help and encouragement when needed---- I love them all and trust them

[EyesWideOpen]

In rural communities there may be a bit of instant village justice that keeps people more in line than in the city. Meaning if you beat up your wife, her brother or father in the village may come after you. Still remember a story a early Thai girlfriend told me. Her father felt someone in the village had done his family wrong, so he waited at night for the guy, killed him with a club ,and pitched the body into a canal. Instant justice.....

[Mystery]

Domestic violence is not limited to class, race, creed or even sex guys! I can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading here! I don't know any statistics or such but I know what I've experienced in my personal life...

Firstly, agree with the person who says farmers life is actually less stressful than urban jobless life, or even urban job stress! The modern lifestyle does not help people that are already that type of person that would beat someone or has a need to control someone. But it also comes down to simply the person. It is a type of person and they exist everywhere!

Yes, there probably are still some families that would insist their daughter marry her rapist, but it doesn't mean ALL families in country areas are like that!!! And certainly doesn't make it a majority either! Thailand is still a developing country, stop expecting it to be so modern like Europe! Electricity came to my husbands village when he was a teenager. There have been plenty of arranged marriages in England in the old times, it's not only in Thailand and cases of rape not being reported.

Having lived in Uthai Thani (countryside with one or two westerners), Koh Samui (tourist island with small Thai communities) and Hua Hin (supposedly aristocratic Thai city and now also tourist place, so attracting Thai's from all over) for the past 9 years, I've met a lot of Thai's from all walks of life.

Let me tell you this, there's plenty a Thai man that is TERRIFIED of his wife! There be some powerful matriarchs in this country!! My mother in law being one of them, my father in law lives in wooden structure away from the main house... : )

Now onto the next issue, Thai Thai Thai... yes the original article was about spousel violence in Thailand being on the increase, which is a sad fact... could also be looked as at it's being reported more? Perhaps people are standing up to this type of behaviour more and so it's reported more?

It goes on in EVERY country in EVERY class in EVERY sex! I have plenty of personal examples to share with you to prove my point...

My father (bless him I love him dearly!) an English Middle-Upper (born in the 40's) class gentlemen, had a temper and smacked my mother, not often, but enough for me to remember! My sister, born in the 70's, an English rose they would call her, physically attacked her husband, an Israeli, not often, but enough times for it to become and issue that needed resolving. I was beaten for a year, by a man of mixed Nationality of middle class, his father was Italian/English and his mother African/Indian. I have gay friends that have reported their boyfriends beating them, I know of lesbian couples where the same occurs. I have a female friend from America who has physically lashed out at her Thai boyfriend and and I know of Thai men that beat with wives and kids.

Violence in general is still a lot more acceptable in some societies here in Thailand, men on men, women on women, kids on kids and then also parents on children, siblings on children, in comparison to what I experienced in my childhood in Europe.I generally find there is a lot more pinching, yanking of kids arms and this type of behaviour than in Europe. (I haven't been to America or Australia so only talk about Europe) And this perhaps then means there is more domestic violence.

No age, sex, gender, race, culture or person is not vulnerable to domestic violence - never forget that! This is not a subject you can generalise about, I would dare to say it happens more with men against women rather than women against men, but there's also many men suffering too.

[BlackJack]

why would anyone want to kill their Thai spouse?

[Exsexyman]

Hold on a minute!

Where's the person who writes, "Before we start turning this into a Thai bashing session, this could happen in any country."

Remember? The guys beating up those women in the Youtube video!

Come on, where are you now?.... What have you got to say?

are you actually trying to dare someone?

what is this, primary school?

As somebody else has pointed out, That video showed Burmese men beating up Burmese women and was filmed in Malaysia. Apart from that, great post darren84310!

[krisb]

Phew, I thought it was gonna say husbands killed by their wives.

[krisb]

Domestic violence is not limited to class, race, creed or even sex guys! I can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading here! I don't know any statistics or such but I know what I've experienced in my personal life...

Firstly, agree with the person who says farmers life is actually less stressful than urban jobless life, or even urban job stress! The modern lifestyle does not help people that are already that type of person that would beat someone or has a need to control someone. But it also comes down to simply the person. It is a type of person and they exist everywhere!

Yes, there probably are still some families that would insist their daughter marry her rapist, but it doesn't mean ALL families in country areas are like that!!! And certainly doesn't make it a majority either! Thailand is still a developing country, stop expecting it to be so modern like Europe! Electricity came to my husbands village when he was a teenager. There have been plenty of arranged marriages in England in the old times, it's not only in Thailand and cases of rape not being reported.

Having lived in Uthai Thani (countryside with one or two westerners), Koh Samui (tourist island with small Thai communities) and Hua Hin (supposedly aristocratic Thai city and now also tourist place, so attracting Thai's from all over) for the past 9 years, I've met a lot of Thai's from all walks of life.

Let me tell you this, there's plenty a Thai man that is TERRIFIED of his wife! There be some powerful matriarchs in this country!! My mother in law being one of them, my father in law lives in wooden structure away from the main house... : )

Now onto the next issue, Thai Thai Thai... yes the original article was about spousel violence in Thailand being on the increase, which is a sad fact... could also be looked as at it's being reported more? Perhaps people are standing up to this type of behaviour more and so it's reported more?

It goes on in EVERY country in EVERY class in EVERY sex! I have plenty of personal examples to share with you to prove my point...

My father (bless him I love him dearly!) an English Middle-Upper (born in the 40's) class gentlemen, had a temper and smacked my mother, not often, but enough for me to remember! My sister, born in the 70's, an English rose they would call her, physically attacked her husband, an Israeli, not often, but enough times for it to become and issue that needed resolving. I was beaten for a year, by a man of mixed Nationality of middle class, his father was Italian/English and his mother African/Indian. I have gay friends that have reported their boyfriends beating them, I know of lesbian couples where the same occurs. I have a female friend from America who has physically lashed out at her Thai boyfriend and and I know of Thai men that beat with wives and kids.

Violence in general is still a lot more acceptable in some societies here in Thailand, men on men, women on women, kids on kids and then also parents on children, siblings on children, in comparison to what I experienced in my childhood in Europe.I generally find there is a lot more pinching, yanking of kids arms and this type of behaviour than in Europe. (I haven't been to America or Australia so only talk about Europe) And this perhaps then means there is more domestic violence.

No age, sex, gender, race, culture or person is not vulnerable to domestic violence - never forget that! This is not a subject you can generalise about, I would dare to say it happens more with men against women rather than women against men, but there's also many men suffering too.

great book you just wrote mate.

[MacChine]

She said the proportion of homicides arising from domestic disputes was
on the rise, reaching 59.16 per cent in 2012 compared to 2011's 49.70
per cent.

Ninety per cent of the victims were women.

And so, Thai women are more likely to be killed by a partner than a stranger.

[barrybankruad]

Judging by the amount of violent behaviour portrayed in the appalling Thai soaps every evening on television, I'm not altogether surprised at the increase of domestic violence.

[Thai at Heart]

Judging by the amount of violent behaviour portrayed in the appalling Thai soaps every evening on television, I'm not altogether surprised at the increase of domestic violence.

Can't help agreeing.

If you fill an entire populous with inane semi violent TV for 3 hours every night, it's possible this is the result.

That said, the stats are tripe.

[Mystery]

Hold on a minute!

Where's the person who writes, "Before we start turning this into a Thai bashing session, this could happen in any country."

Remember? The guys beating up those women in the Youtube video!

Come on, where are you now?.... What have you got to say?

are you actually trying to dare someone?

what is this, primary school?

As somebody else has pointed out, That video showed Burmese men beating up Burmese women and was filmed in Malaysia. Apart from that, great post darren84310!

I thought it was Thai men beating Burmese women who'd come over to work? I may be wrong... But I though this post started with an article on domestic violence death rise in Thailand 90% being women... not about the youtube post...? There's plenty of videos circulating around youtube of people beating each other up in every country - only fools think this happens in Thailand only! Domestic violence is BRUTAL and happens everywhere - check out the facebook group Empowered and Beautiful - millions of stories of American and other nationalities who have HORRIFIC stories of Domestic Abuse! One poor girl had hot oil poured over her while she was sleeping - her husband and father or her two sons had to boil the oil and walk thirty-two steps to her bedside to do it! Pure evil calculation! Yes I would agree that Thailand is generally speaking more violent, but violence and Domestic Violence are two separate issues. I believe some cultures are just more violent - in time I would hope they become less violent - like England - however Domestic Violence is something different, as it's the art of controlling someone emotionally, physically and often sexually also! Which can end often end in a fatality. General violence, kids against kids, parents against children, partners against each other is different - in my eyes anyway : )

[cup-O-coffee]

Since there are a larger percentage of people moving into Bangkok from the rural areas, and since these people are of a lower income level, if not poor, then wouldn't it behoove the statisticians to indicate how many of these killings are from people who have been in Bangkok for a certain amount of time and their income level, if any?

I am willing to guess that the spike is from poor people who have not been in Bangkok for more than a year or two. It is also relevant since poor to low income families experience more stress and conflict in the family unit. Usually drugs and alcohol or poor behavior and decision making is prevalent in these families as well.

Just my 2 cents.

[forumuser10]

when thai men are brought up to believe they can do what ever they want what do you expect. The other night outside my wifes units she asked a tennant from the unti next door if he could park his car somewhere else because he always parked it acroos our entry(steps up from the road) so none of our tennants could get past it. He camw out with his girlfriend & they threatened to have someone kill her if she did it again, then I realized what was happening and got out of the car, he took off at a great rate of speed, too gutless to face another man. This is typical of thai men, no gutts unless they are beating on a female or in a pack, they simply cannot accept loosing face or being wrong, my wife now says I must watch my back as this idiot may pay someone to do something to me for making him loose face while threatening a women(in front of his GF) or have someone beat up on here and her daughter/mum, real men hey. They do it because it makes them feel like a big man and to show people how tough they are, have to feel sorry for the thai wives/GF's of these <deleted>.

You will find much the same behaviour in the poorer, Chav areas of the UK. Nothing cultural. Stupid, desperate people of all nations behave like childish idiots in my experience.

I agree with this totally, but somehow, some people here on Thaivisa, loves to pick on Thai men, according to some people here, Thai men are the lowest scum on earth.

They love to feel that they are superior, being the knight in the shining armor, coming here to rescue the innocent, lovely thai lady, from the evil Thai men.

Have you been listenting to bar girls again?

Nope, I got that from Thaivisa. Many guys here feel they are superior to Thai men, I guess it helps them to justify their relationship with their Thai wife.