Boater Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Lower-end hotels on Samui Island may feel annoyed by the baht's appreciation because they cannot raise their room rates, though fancier hotels will charge more. "I hope the uptrend in the baht will not keep going on too long," Tanongsak Somwong, president of the Tourism Association of Koh Samui, said yesterday. Four- and five-star hotels plan to hike rates by 8-12 per cent this year to cover rising costs, mainly driven by the higher minimum wage. That means the resort island may lose its competitiveness in the market, he said. The four- and five-star hotels are selling rooms for Bt4,500-Bt7,500, while tourists are facing less purchasing power after their currencies are converted into baht. Room rates on the island have remained flat for several years because operators worry about problems if they raise rates at a time when the United States and Europe are in financial trouble, resulting in fewer tourist arrivals. The island has a stock of 16,000-18,000 guest rooms. http://www.nationmultimedia.com/business/Baht-may-deter-rise-in-Samui-room-rates-30204563.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaPhom Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Bring back Chalies hut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooo Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Anyone from the Hotels Association thought thought of telling BKK Air? Oooops wrong topic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie100 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 (edited) Anyone from the Hotels Association thought thought of telling BKK Air? Oooops wrong topic. Are you asking if they thought twice about it??? Edited April 25, 2013 by yorkie100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post samuibeachcomber Posted April 25, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2013 oh no.............please dont tell me the hourly room rate is going up too 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuijimmy Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 (edited) oh no.............please dont tell me the hourly room rate is going up too By the hour rates, what's that for .... just for when you need a quick nap... ? !!! Edited April 25, 2013 by samuijimmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 1 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 When the baht crashed from 25bt to 50bt for the dollar in 97 these hotel all upped there rates to suit, now it's coming back 25bt to the dollar are they going to do like wise NO. As for the 300bt minimum wage do I feel sorry for the hotels No. When they charge more than 5000bt a room if they are not making money shut up and get out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
churchill Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Supply and Demand One can always get discounts in the low season ... And of course hotels manage their rates for maximum occupancy and profits .. Seems Samui is busy for now , so I would not expect lower rates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngThong Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 oh no.............please dont tell me the hourly room rate is going up too By the hour rates, what's that for .... just for when you need a quick nap... ? !!! ...or passing time... with company...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 My favourite room went up 800 Baht a night about a year or so ago. The breakfast is now far better....other than that little has changed. No drama here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 My favourite room went up 800 Baht a night about a year or so ago. The breakfast is now far better....other than that little has changed. No drama here. I can fix you up with a bungalow for 600 but probably not for you as a 800 baht rise is OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Haha....I can do a decent gaff with a pool for much less PS but I like the sea view thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOggMonster Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Anyone from the Hotels Association thought thought of telling BKK Air? Oooops wrong topic. Quick delete this post.....If BKK Air read this post it may give them yet another excuse to bump the price up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 (edited) Anyone from the Hotels Association thought thought of telling BKK Air? Oooops wrong topic. Quick delete this post.....If BKK Air read this post it may give them yet another excuse to bump the price up! I hope they do. Keep the riff raff out. Edit: There could be a special fenced off camp for visitors who arrive by ferry. I suggest calling it "Lamai". Edited April 25, 2013 by smokie36 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric1949 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 When the baht crashed from 25bt to 50bt for the dollar in 97 these hotel all upped there rates to suit, now it's coming back 25bt to the dollar are they going to do like wise NO. As for the 300bt minimum wage do I feel sorry for the hotels No. When they charge more than 5000bt a room if they are not making money shut up and get out. Just for your info, the rate for Samui is 240 baht/day, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric1949 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 The minimum wages per day are fixed at rates depending on the location of the work place. From 1 April 2012, the Thai minimum wages are as follows: Baht 300 for Bangkok, Phuket, Nakorn Pathom, Nonthaburi, Pathum Thani, Samut Prakarn and Samut Sakorn Baht 273 for Chonburi Baht 269 for Chachoengsao and Saraburi Baht 265 for Ayudhya Baht 264 for Rayong Baht 259 for Ranong Baht 258 for Phang-nga Baht 257 for Krabi Baht 255 for Nakorn Ratchasima and Prachinburi Baht 254 for Lopburi Baht 252 for Kanchanaburi Baht 251 for Chiangmai and Ratchburi Baht 250 for Chantaburi and Petchburi Baht 246 for Songkhla and Singhburi Baht 244 for Trang Baht 243 for Nakorn Srithammarat and Angthong Baht 241 for Chumporn, Pattalung, Satun, Loei and Sakaew Baht 240 for Prachuab Kirikhan, Yala, Surat Thani and Samut Songkram Baht 239 for Narathiwat, Udonthani and Ubolratchathani Baht 237 for Nakorn Nayok and Pattani Baht 236 for Trad, Lampoon, Buengkan and Nongkai Baht 234 for Kampaengpetch and Uthaithani Baht 233 for Chainat, Supanburi, Kalasin and Khonkaen Baht 232 for Chiangrai, Buriram, Nakorn Sawan, Petchaboon, Yasothorn, Roiet and Sakolnakorn Baht 230 for Chaiyapoom, Mukdahan, Lampang, Sukhothai and Nongbualampu Baht 229 for Nakornpanom Baht 227 for Pichit, Pitsanuloke, Prae, Mahasarakam, Maehongson, Utaradit and Amnatcharoen Baht 226 for Tak and Surin Baht 225 for Nan Baht 223 for Srisaket Baht 222 for Payao The link for the site is listed belowhttp://msna.biz/thai...thai-labour-law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooo Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 I think we are confusing currency rate with labour rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulfsailor Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 The minimum wages per day are fixed at rates depending on the location of the work place. From 1 April 2012, the Thai minimum wages are as follows: Baht 300 for Bangkok, Phuket, Nakorn Pathom, Nonthaburi, Pathum Thani, Samut Prakarn and Samut Sakorn Baht 273 for Chonburi Baht 269 for Chachoengsao and Saraburi Baht 265 for Ayudhya Baht 264 for Rayong Baht 259 for Ranong Baht 258 for Phang-nga Baht 257 for Krabi Baht 255 for Nakorn Ratchasima and Prachinburi Baht 254 for Lopburi Baht 252 for Kanchanaburi Baht 251 for Chiangmai and Ratchburi Baht 250 for Chantaburi and Petchburi Baht 246 for Songkhla and Singhburi Baht 244 for Trang Baht 243 for Nakorn Srithammarat and Angthong Baht 241 for Chumporn, Pattalung, Satun, Loei and Sakaew Baht 240 for Prachuab Kirikhan, Yala, Surat Thani and Samut Songkram Baht 239 for Narathiwat, Udonthani and Ubolratchathani Baht 237 for Nakorn Nayok and Pattani Baht 236 for Trad, Lampoon, Buengkan and Nongkai Baht 234 for Kampaengpetch and Uthaithani Baht 233 for Chainat, Supanburi, Kalasin and Khonkaen Baht 232 for Chiangrai, Buriram, Nakorn Sawan, Petchaboon, Yasothorn, Roiet and Sakolnakorn Baht 230 for Chaiyapoom, Mukdahan, Lampang, Sukhothai and Nongbualampu Baht 229 for Nakornpanom Baht 227 for Pichit, Pitsanuloke, Prae, Mahasarakam, Maehongson, Utaradit and Amnatcharoen Baht 226 for Tak and Surin Baht 225 for Nan Baht 223 for Srisaket Baht 222 for Payao The link for the site is listed belowhttp://msna.biz/thai...thai-labour-law As you indicate, those amounts were valid as per April 2012. But then on January 1st 2013, 300baht became the minimum in ALL provinces. Better check with labor dept. and social security to make sure you are paying your staff enough... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boater Posted April 26, 2013 Author Share Posted April 26, 2013 They cannot blame the min wage , just means thy are not racking in extreme profit ... Most hotels in Europe are the same rate now as samui or cheaper, yet they have to pay the daily min wage per hour to employees ! Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 1 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 The minimum wages per day are fixed at rates depending on the location of the work place. From 1 April 2012, the Thai minimum wages are as follows: Baht 300 for Bangkok, Phuket, Nakorn Pathom, Nonthaburi, Pathum Thani, Samut Prakarn and Samut Sakorn Baht 273 for Chonburi Baht 269 for Chachoengsao and Saraburi Baht 265 for Ayudhya Baht 264 for Rayong Baht 259 for Ranong Baht 258 for Phang-nga Baht 257 for Krabi Baht 255 for Nakorn Ratchasima and Prachinburi Baht 254 for Lopburi Baht 252 for Kanchanaburi Baht 251 for Chiangmai and Ratchburi Baht 250 for Chantaburi and Petchburi Baht 246 for Songkhla and Singhburi Baht 244 for Trang Baht 243 for Nakorn Srithammarat and Angthong Baht 241 for Chumporn, Pattalung, Satun, Loei and Sakaew Baht 240 for Prachuab Kirikhan, Yala, Surat Thani and Samut Songkram Baht 239 for Narathiwat, Udonthani and Ubolratchathani Baht 237 for Nakorn Nayok and Pattani Baht 236 for Trad, Lampoon, Buengkan and Nongkai Baht 234 for Kampaengpetch and Uthaithani Baht 233 for Chainat, Supanburi, Kalasin and Khonkaen Baht 232 for Chiangrai, Buriram, Nakorn Sawan, Petchaboon, Yasothorn, Roiet and Sakolnakorn Baht 230 for Chaiyapoom, Mukdahan, Lampang, Sukhothai and Nongbualampu Baht 229 for Nakornpanom Baht 227 for Pichit, Pitsanuloke, Prae, Mahasarakam, Maehongson, Utaradit and Amnatcharoen Baht 226 for Tak and Surin Baht 225 for Nan Baht 223 for Srisaket Baht 222 for Payao The link for the site is listed below http://msna.biz/thai...thai-labour-law Yes we are in the year 2013 if you missed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric1949 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Well, it must be a pain for employers, to try to keep up with the regulations if they can change them after only 8 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livinthailandos Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Different topic but Different hotel properties adjusted ok others not so much. Main issue was not the increase at least for quite a few of us. Its the issue of populist policies. Just waiting for issue to come up and see when thai government will announce to raise minimum wage to 350 baht or 400 baht next year. Sent from my using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuibeachcomber Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 They cannot blame the min wage , just means thy are not racking in extreme profit ... Most hotels in Europe are the same rate now as samui or cheaper, yet they have to pay the daily min wage per hour to employees ! Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app minimum wage is far too low,and as you say cannot be blamed.In the west people on low wages usually have the oppotunity to work a 2nd job to make up extra income.In thailand this is not possible to do because of the daily hours workers have to work(i.e. 10-12 hours per day)often only having 1 day off a week or every two weeks.Mind you it would be difficult to find a thai wanting to work 2 jobs anyway and from what i have seen of restaurant employees they tend not to be very productive.Apologies if my reply is slightly off topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Just for your info, the rate for Samui is 240 baht/day, Hey Eric Great info. unfortunately all of the Thais on the island (and probably elsewhere as well) all believe what is on the Television. To be fair, I have been paying more than the minimum anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaroni man Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Lets not forget that many of the employees work for a lower hr min wage and get many perks such as food room and bonus these bonus can be worth 6 months wage or more. This type of profit sharing IMO is a good thing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokerspiv Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 If increasing the minimum wage helps poor people so much, I wonder why the Thai government doesn't just increase it to 10,000 baht a day and solve everyone's problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boater Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 If increasing the minimum wage helps poor people so much, I wonder why the Thai government doesn't just increase it to 10,000 baht a day and solve everyone's problems? That's just being ott , even an increase to 1,000 thb a day is well within most biz needs Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livinthailandos Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 No need to raise the wage, within 2 years the government will unlease more populist policies to raise the wage along with mire schemes Sent from my using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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